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Title: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 10, 2020, 05:10:53 pm
"Tip Of The Iceberg" - WHO Director Warns Of More Widespread Transmission As Virus Death Toll Tops 900, Beijing Under Partial Lock Down

is the coronavirus the new world power




Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 10, 2020, 09:59:50 pm

The Chinese can afford to lose a few hundreds of millions of their citizens.

After all, they have multiple BILLIONS of people in their population.

That is why China will supersede America as the world's top-dog superpower by the middle of this century.

America is a waning superpower, making way for the new top dog, and facilitated by their stupid “fake president” who thinks he should be a king.

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 11, 2020, 03:21:29 pm

Scientists warned in 2017 that a SARS-like virus could escape a lab set up that year in Wuhan, China, to study some of the most dangerous pathogens in the world.

China built a lab to study SARS and Ebola in Wuhan - and US biosafety experts warned in 2017 that a virus could 'escape' the facility that's become key in fighting the outbreak
The Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is the only lab in China designated for studying dangerous pathogens like SARS and Ebola
Ahead of its January 2018 opening, biosafety experts and scientists from the US expressed concerns that a virus could escape the lab
In 2004, a SARS virus 'leaked' from a lab in Beijing
Experts say the coronavirus that's infected more than 800 people mutated in animals and became capable of infecting humans at the Wuhan seafood market
But a 2017 article warned of the unpredictability of lab animals that scientists at the Wuhan lab intended to inject with viruses


yes you are right china can afford to lose millions of people

that's because communist scum don't give 2 fucks about their people

they just drag them away and disappear them

what the world really needs is for their leaders to start dying from this virus

because of the Chinese holiday, this virus has spread all over china

some experts are saying this is a bioweapon that escaped from their lab

Is the Coronavirus a Bioweapon?
A look at the Chinese regime's biological warfare intentions, capabilities

No less a figure than Dr. Francis Boyle, an expert on biowarfare, believes that “the coronavirus that we’re dealing with here is an offensive biological warfare weapon.”

Speaking of Wuhan’s Institute of Virology, which is at the epicenter of the epidemic, he added that there have “been previous reports of problems with that lab and things leaking out of it.”

For Boyle to be correct, the Chinese regime would have to have both the intention and the capability to develop such a bioweapon, but does it?

It’s no secret that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), despite being a signatory to the United Nations’ Biological Weapons Convention, which bans biological weapons, regards the development of bioweapons as a key part of achieving military dominance. The vice president of China’s Academy of Military Medical Sciences, He Fuchu, said in 2015 that biomaterials were the new “strategic commanding heights” of warfare.

People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Gen. Zhang Shibo went even further in his 2017 book “War’s New High Land,” claiming that “modern biotechnology development is gradually showing strong signs characteristic of an offensive capability,” including the potential for “specific ethnic genetic attacks.”

To be perfectly clear, what Zhang is talking about are bioweapons that kill other races, but for which people who look like him would have a natural or acquired immunity. Those who might counter by saying that this is just a wild-eyed general who doesn’t necessarily speak for the communist leadership, bear in mind that Zhang was a full member of the 18th Central Committee (2012–2017) and is a former president of the National Defense University.

So as far as intentions are concerned, I think the evidence is indisputable that the CCP would develop offensive biological warfare weapons if it could. But can it? What do we know about China’s capabilities?

We know that China has mastered CRISPR technology, which enables the kind of gene-splicing that’s needed to create a biological superweapon. After all, it was a Chinese scientist, He Jiankui, who announced that he had re-engineered the human genome to make it resistant to HIV, a feat for which he recently received a three-year prison sentence.

If you’re intent upon genetically engineering offensive biological warfare weapons, you also need a very secure facility to ensure that they don’t escape from containment. After all, you’re taking dangerous pathogens such as SARS, Ebola, and various strains of coronavirus and trying to make them even more deadly. China only has one such Level 4 microbiology lab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and it’s located in—you guessed it—the city of Wuhan.

Finally, in addition to the technology and the facilities, you need raw biomaterial. This means laying your hands on the deadliest viruses to be found in nature, into which you can engineer characteristics that make them even more deadly. Some ways of doing this include enhancing human-to-human transmission of a virus originally harvested from another species, or increasing the latency period before an infected person begins to show symptoms.

There is incontrovertible evidence that the Wuhan lab has acquired some of the deadliest coronaviruses on the planet. It’s also worth noting that just last year, two Chinese nationals, husband and wife team Drs. Cheng Keding and Qiu Xiangguo, were removed from the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police as part of an intellectual property theft investigation. The lab is Canada’s only Level 4 microbiology lab, which is to say, it’s the same type of lab the Chinese operate in Wuhan. Qiu is known for working on the Ebola virus, while her husband has published studies about SARS. The RCMP investigation noted that both made frequent trips back to the Wuhan lab.

The bottom line is that China has everything it needs to create a deadly bioweapon: the technology, the facility, and the raw biomaterial.

Much ink has been spilled by The Washington Post and other mainstream media outlets to try to convince us that the deadly coronavirus is a product of nature rather than nefariousness, and that anyone who says otherwise is an unhinged conspiracy theorist.

When a group of Indian virologists published a paper suggesting that the novel coronavirus contains insertions that resemble HIV gene sequences, they were widely attacked, and the paper was withdrawn for revision. The paper’s critics claimed that the supposed HIV insertions didn’t enable the novel coronavirus to cripple human immune systems, as HIV itself does, by attacking white blood cells, or lymphocytes, that fight infections.

In fact, there is evidence that the novel coronavirus can indeed cause “progressive lymphocyte reduction.” But even if there weren’t, that wouldn’t prove anything. The fact that a bioweapon under development doesn’t work as well as intended isn’t proof that it’s not a bioweapon, merely that it wasn’t yet ready to deploy. And, whether it was a bioweapon-in-the-making or not, there seems little reason to doubt that the coronavirus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Propinquity suggests causation. After all, if the first coronavirus infection were a simple result of accidental animal-to-human transmission as claimed, this could have occurred anywhere in China. How curious that the epicenter of the epidemic just happens to be in a city of 11 million people where China’s only Level 4 lab is located. Chance? I think not.

Add the fact that China has a history of similar lab accidents. In 2004, for example, the SARS virus leaked from a Beijing lab twice (!) and caused an outbreak of the disease. The Wuhan facility may have been state-of-the-art, but Chinese safety standards, in general, are notably lax. And if Chinese scientists were under rush orders to research and develop bioweapons, corners would almost surely be cut.

Another reason to think that the world is dealing with something more than mere incompetence here is the reaction of CCP officials. Beijing has gone to truly extraordinary lengths to cover up the widening outbreak. Coronavirus test kits are rationed so that most of the cases go undiagnosed. Most of the deaths are attributed to other causes, such as pneumonia. Funerals have been banned, and corpses are being rushed to the crematoria without any paperwork. The ovens in the Wuhan crematoria are going day and night to destroy the evidence of the true scale of the outbreak.

Early on in the outbreak, authorities even arrested eight doctors whose “crime” was that they reported the large number of cases of a new viral infection that they were seeing in their hospitals. They were accused of “making false statements” and “spreading rumors,” and were released only after they signed confessions. They are now being viewed by the public at large as heroes, especially since one of the original whistleblowers, Dr. Li Wenliang, has now died from the disease.

As far as the source of the epidemic is concerned, the authorities were equally duplicitous. They first pointed to the snakes and bats supposedly being sold at the Wuhan seafood market, and shut the market down. But it soon came out that snakes don’t carry coronaviruses and that bats—which do—weren’t sold at the market.

There is one final piece of evidence that for me, as a China hand, supports the theory that the coronavirus is an escaped Chinese bioweapon. There is a rumor going around on the Chinese internet that the United States has deliberately unleashed an American bioweapon on the Chinese population.

Tellingly, such absurd claims aren’t being censored by authorities, while accurate reporting on the outbreak is. It’s very much in character for the Communist Party leaders to blame their chief geopolitical rival for crimes that they themselves commit.

With its lies and evasions, is the Party simply trying to cover up its incompetence in controlling the outbreak? Or are its leaders also trying to hide something much more serious: their criminal complicity in the outbreak’s origins? Even taking into account the Party’s penchant for secrecy, the multiple levels of deception engaged by communist officials over the past couple of months, including those at the highest levels, have been extraordinary.

We may never know for certain whether the novel coronavirus was intended to be used as a bioweapon. But we do know that the major Western print, broadcast, and social media are all doing their best to dismiss the very possibility as a paranoid fantasy.

But—as the old joke goes—it’s not paranoia if they’re really out to get you. And, on this point, the evidence is clear. We know—because PLA generals have told us so—that their researchers are racing to develop lethal bioweapons as fast as their theft of Western technology and stolen virus samples will allow. And it’s a most reasonable supposition to assume that, because of this push to develop a deadly bioweapon, safety standards were neglected at the virology institute in Wuhan, and the deadly coronavirus managed to escape from the lab.

At the end of the day, whether the novel coronavirus had already been tinkered with before it reached the streets of Wuhan is (almost) of secondary importance. The CCP is clearly engaged in an effort to develop such a weapon as part and parcel of its strategy for the Chinese regime to replace the United States as the dominant power on the planet.

To put it another way, does anyone think that the CCP’s leaders—once they had perfected a bioweapon to which they had a natural or induced immunity—would hesitate to unleash a deadly pandemic on the West to achieve its “China Dream” of world domination? Those who doubt that the leaders of the Communist Party would use such an “assassin’s mace” need to tell us precisely what moral or ethical considerations would stay their hand. Because I can think of none.

I suspect that the only real surprise for the Chinese leadership in the novel coronavirus is that China itself has become ground zero for the outbreak that they had hoped to one day unleash on other countries.

There is an ancient Chinese saying that seems appropriate here.

“Picking up a rock [to throw at others], but dropping it on one’s own foot.”

Steven W. Mosher is president of the Population Research Institute and the author of “Bully of Asia: Why China’s Dream Is the New Threat to World Order.” A former National Science Foundation fellow, he studied human biology at Stanford University under famed geneticist Luigi Cavalli-Sforza. He holds advanced degrees in Biological Oceanography, East Asian Studies, and Cultural Anthropology. One of America’s leading China watchers, he was selected in 1979 by the National Science Foundation to be the first U.S. social scientist to do field research in China.



Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 11, 2020, 03:26:39 pm

The Americans don't give a fuck about their people either.

They went warmongering in the Middle East and the result was heaps of body-bags full of dead Americans being airfreighted home.

So much for neocon capitalist scum and their attitudes towards their own people, eh?

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 11, 2020, 03:31:57 pm
oh fuck I thought we were talking about your communist heroes in china you silly TDS Bunnie

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 11, 2020, 05:30:14 pm
nothing to worry about here
what could possibly go wrong

I mean china must be telling the world the truth right?



Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 14, 2020, 09:06:45 pm
Looks like China is a wanning superpower


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 14, 2020, 10:41:37 pm

All China needs to do is to sit back and wait.

Since Trump became the president of the USA, he has added three trillion dollars to the US government's debt.

And he wants to add another trillion dollars of debt, except that he needs the support of Congress to do it.

And the Democrat-controlled Congress aren't going to give Trump what he wants.

Meanwhile, Trump has turned America into a giant PONZI scheme, so all China needs to do is wait for that PONZI scheme to collapse, just like ALL PONZI schemes always do.

Trump is going to make China great again and he is doing it right now.

Just as his own businesses went bankrupt seven times, he is in the process of bankrupting America.

All it will take will be for oil-producing nations to sell their oil for a currency other than the US dollar and the whole rotten house of cards will collapse, to China's benefit.

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 15, 2020, 06:13:19 pm
All China needs to do is to sit back and wait for coronavirus to get into their water table then all die

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 15, 2020, 09:37:20 pm

America will be joining Britain in the “once was a superpower” club by the middle of this century.

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 18, 2020, 10:00:11 pm
wow so china has 70 million people locked up in their homes

and they are lying about the numbers of dead people
it sure looks like this coronavirus escaped from their bioweapons lab


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 19, 2020, 09:52:40 pm
Meanwhile in China


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 21, 2020, 05:12:51 am
meanwhile, in china they give coronavirus a new name COVID_19

what really happened


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 21, 2020, 08:29:48 pm

America's allies are ignoring America's stupid “fake president” and signing contracts with Huawei.

from The New York Times…

Huawei Is Winning the Argument in Europe,
as the U.S. Fumbles to Develop Alternatives

Germany seems poised to follow Britain in letting the Chinese maker build
next-generation networks, despite last appeals from the United States.

By DAVID E. SANGER and DAVID McCABE | Monday, February 17, 2020

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/17/us/politics/17dc-huawei1/merlin_161062575_4814a2ff-2fac-4c33-b9ad-792e1e6dd09f-jumbo.jpg) (https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/17/us/politics/17dc-huawei1/merlin_161062575_4814a2ff-2fac-4c33-b9ad-792e1e6dd09f-superJumbo.jpg)
People testing out new Huawei smartphones at a technology event in Munich last year.
 — Photograph: Matthias Schrader/Associated Press.

WASHINGTON D.C. — America's global campaign to prevent its closest allies from using Huawei, the Chinese telecom giant, in the next generation of wireless networks has largely failed, with foreign leaders publicly rebuffing the United States argument that the firm poses an unmanageable security threat.

Britain has already called the Trump administration's bluff, betting that officials would back away from their threat to cut off intelligence sharing with any country that used Huawei equipment in its network. Apart from an angry phone call between President Trump and Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Britain appears to be paying no price for its decision to let Huawei into limited parts of its network, under what the British say will be rigorous surveillance.

Germany now appears ready to follow a similar path, despite an endless stream of cajoling and threats by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and other U.S. officials at a global security conference in Munich last weekend.

In public speeches and private conversations, Mr. Pompeo and Mr. Esper continued to hammer home the dangers of letting a Chinese firm into networks that control critical communications, saying it would give the Chinese government the ability to spy on — or, in times of conflict, turn off — those networks. The security risks are so severe, they warned, that the United States would no longer be able to share intelligence with any country whose network uses Huawei.

“If countries choose to go the Huawei route,” Mr. Esper told reporters on Saturday, “it could well jeopardize all the information sharing and intelligence sharing we have been talking about, and that could undermine the alliance, or at least our relationship with that country.”

Yet officials sense their continued drumbeat of warnings is losing its punch in Europe, so the administration is shifting its approach. The United States is now aiming to cripple Huawei by choking off its access to the American technology it needs and trying to cobble together a viable American-European alternative to compete with it.

The Huawei fight is just one part of a bigger U.S.-China battle, as Washington tries to contain Beijing's influence and power and ensure that the world's second-largest economy does not come to dominate advanced industries that could give it an economic and military edge (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/business/economy/us-china-technology.html). That includes the next-generation telecommunications networks that Huawei is building, known as 5G. Those superfast networks will control communications, critical infrastructure and, most worrying for American officials, the “internet of things” devices that are already controlling factories, autonomous vehicles and the day-to-day operations of military bases.

The United States is also trying to limit China's access (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/business/economy/us-china-technology.html) to American technology more broadly and is considering restricting sales of microchips, artificial intelligence, robotics and some types of advanced software, along with preventing tech companies from teaming up — or even sharing research — with Chinese firms.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/17/us/politics/17dc-huawei2/merlin_152298000_e8df7f1b-756f-4ab3-950b-66c318be56a9-jumbo.jpg) (https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/17/us/politics/17dc-huawei2/merlin_152298000_e8df7f1b-756f-4ab3-950b-66c318be56a9-superJumbo.jpg)
Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany and her government are focused on potential effects on the country’s exports to China.
 — Photograph: Kay Nietfeld/Deutsche Presse-Agentur GmbH/via Associated Press.

Last week, the United States turned up the legal pressure on Huawei by announcing new charges of racketeering and theft of trade secrets, including allegations from more than a decade ago. The new charges were added to a sweeping indictment filed in 2019 that accused the company and its chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, of fraud and sanctions evasion. As part of that case, the Trump administration has been pressing Canada to extradite Ms. Meng (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/19/world/canada/19meng-wanzhou-extradition-huawei.html), who was arrested in late 2018 in Vancouver at the behest of American officials, so that she can face charges in the United States. Ms. Meng is the eldest daughter of Huawei's founder, Ren Zhengfei.

This month, the administration is expected to try to squeeze Huawei even further by closing a loophole that has allowed the firm to continue buying parts and products from American companies, despite a Trump administration ban on selling to Huawei. While the Pentagon initially opposed the effort, fearing it could hurt defense suppliers, it has now reversed its position amid pressure from other administration officials.

But the effort to handicap Huawei has been complicated by the lack of an alternative to the company, which offers low-cost telecom equipment partially subsidized by the Chinese government. Right now the only real competitors are Nokia and Ericsson, two European firms that claim they have deployed more 5G networks than Huawei, but are clearly struggling to match its prices or keep up with the Chinese firm's research and development.

That has sent the administration scrambling to present European and other nations with another option. Over the span of 10 days, Attorney General William P. Barr, Vice President Mike Pence and other officials have offered differing American strategies to build a credible competitor to Huawei. Yet at times, they have contradicted one another's ideas, often in public.

In private meetings, Mr. Trump has been urging American firms to get into the competition themselves. But the administration is deeply divided internally over whether the United States needs to invest in the technology or leave the market to sort it out.

Mr. Barr further confounded things with a speech this month where he called for American acquisition of Nokia and Ericsson “through American ownership of a controlling stake, either directly or through a consortium of private American and allied companies.”

“We and our closest allies certainly need to be actively considering this approach,” Mr. Barr said.

American officials have gently walked back Mr. Barr's comments. Asked about the prospect of a “controlling stake,” Robert Blair, an assistant to Mr. Trump for international telecommunications policy, told The New York Times that “we are focused more on putting everyone in the tent than putting U.S. taxpayer dollars in the midst.”

Mr. Pence, in remarks to CNBC (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/07/reuters-america-pence-dismisses-idea-of-u-s-buying-nokia-ericsson-to-challenge-huawei.html), said the best response to Huawei was to free up airwaves for use in 5G networks operated by American carriers.

Frustration with America's anti-Huawei campaign is building. Speaking in Munich, Mr. Esper trotted out the same security warnings the United States has been using for more than a year, telling a packed conference hall of European diplomats and business leaders that the People's Liberation Army and Chinese intelligence were trying to extend their authoritarian state and that Europe must fight back.

“Huawei and 5G are today's poster child for this nefarious activity,” he said. “Let's be smart. Let's learn from the past and let's get 5G right so we don't regret our decisions later.”

Yet his audience remained skeptical.

“Many of us in Europe agree that there are significant dangers with Huawei, and the U.S. for at least a year has been telling us, do not use Huawei. Are you offering an alternative?” asked Toomas Hendrik Ilves, Estonia's former president. “Are you going to subsidize Nokia and Ericsson? I mean, what do we get? What is it that we should do other than not use Huawei?”

Huawei has proved increasingly effective at pushing back against the United States. After U.S. officials said last week that they had long ago found a “back door” that would allow the company to siphon information off any network, without American telecommunications firms knowing it, the company called it “impossible” and demanded evidence. But none has been declassified.

Andy Purdy, a former homeland security official who now works for Huawei, said the company has suggested a way around security concerns by offering to license its technology “so the Americans or Europeans can build it themselves.” The United States has not responded to the offer, Mr. Purdy said.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/17/us/politics/17dc-huawei3/merlin_168953178_989f0894-121e-4195-8c46-269dc9fa19f7-jumbo.jpg) (https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/17/us/politics/17dc-huawei3/merlin_168953178_989f0894-121e-4195-8c46-269dc9fa19f7-superJumbo.jpg)
“Huawei and 5G are today's poster child for this nefarious activity,” Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said.
 — Photograph: Johannes Simon/Getty Images.

The fight over Huawei has put many European countries in a no-win position, forcing them to either rebuff a key intelligence ally's warnings and risk their key alliance, or alienate China, a critical trading partner. Further complicating the decision is the lack of definitive U.S. intelligence (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/white-house-huawei-back-door.html) showing that Huawei has ever gained access to data that flows across its networks during the two decades it has provided telecommunications equipment to Europe.

Fear of Chinese retaliation has gripped Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany and her government. While Germany's intelligence chiefs have largely joined the American assessment of Huawei's national security dangers, Ms. Merkel is focused on the effects on German exports to China, especially after Chinese officials have hinted that Volkswagen, BMW and Daimler, the maker of the Mercedes-Benz, would bear the brunt of retaliation.

“I have always been more concerned about the possibility of network manipulation,” Norbert Röttgen, the chairman of the German Parliament's foreign affairs committee, said at the Munich conference. “You don't even have to actually take that step, if you control the network. The knowledge that you can is power in itself. How free would we really be in our choices with respect to protecting human rights and other issues if we know that the functioning of crucial parts of our economy depends on the good will of an external power?”

Yet European officials say Germany is likely to mirror Britain's decision to use Huawei and engage in strict monitoring. Germany, like Britain, is expected to keep Huawei out of the most sensitive parts of the telecom network but allow the firm to provide equipment and software for the radio networks that control cell towers and base stations around the country.

That decision will still be a huge loss for the United States. Germany and Britain are America's closest intelligence-sharing partners, and both nations sit atop critical points along fiber-optic cables that are key to intercepting communications from Russia to the Middle East. American officials, including the National Security Agency, have expressed concern about the Chinese government's ability to infiltrate those communications.

The United States has had some success in keeping Huawei out of other networks. Australia has flatly banned Huawei and Japan has done so indirectly. Poland, eager for a deeper American alliance, is likely to keep Huawei at bay. Italy, lured by the promise of a $3 billion Huawei investment in its telecommunications system, at first announced it was giving Huawei a major contract to build its “radio networks,” the base stations and antennas that connect to cellphones and internet-of-things devices. Then it suggested it would review each of those deals, but has been murky about how.

In the absence of a cohesive U.S. strategy, a group of major wireless carriers has considered another approach that would allow more companies to challenge Huawei. The group is pressing for a common architecture for the software and hardware that run 5G networks — an idea that has gained traction with some U.S. policymakers.

Such a system would allow smaller companies to make individual pieces of networking equipment that interact with one another, breaking Huawei's market dominance.

Mr. Barr, in his speech, said the idea is “just pie in the sky.”

The proposal has gained traction among others in Washington and the administration. The two top lawmakers on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Richard M. Burr, Republican of North Carolina, and Mark Warner, Democrat of Virginia, introduced a bill in January that would allocate at least $750 million to research and development of such an open system. It also allocates $500 million to “accelerate the adoption of trusted and secure equipment globally.”

Larry Kudlow, the director of the National Economic Council, recently told The Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pushing-effort-to-develop-5g-alternative-to-huawei-11580831592) that the United States was supporting efforts to use software to undercut Huawei.


David E. Sanger (https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-e-sanger) is a national security correspondent and a senior writer. In a 36-year reporting career for The New York Times, he has been on three teams that have won Pulitzer Prizes, most recently in 2017 for international reporting. His newest book, The Perfect Weapon: War, Sabotage and Fear in the Cyber Age (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0451497899),’ examines the emergence of cyberconflict as the primary way large and small states are competing and undercutting each other, changing the nature of global power. He is also the author of two New York Times best sellers on foreign policy and national security: The Inheritance: The World Obama Confronts and the Challenges to American Power (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307407926), published in 2009, and Confront and Conceal: Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307718034), published in 2012. For The N.Y. Times, Mr. Sanger has served as Tokyo bureau chief, Washington economic correspondent, White House correspondent during the Clinton and Bush administrations, and chief Washington correspondent. Mr. Sanger spent six years in Tokyo, writing about the emergence of Japan as a major American competitor, and then the country's humbling recession. He wrote many of the first articles about North Korea's emerging nuclear weapons program. Returning to Washington, Mr. Sanger turned to a wide range of diplomatic and national security issues, especially issues of nuclear proliferation and the rise of cyberconflict among nations. In reporting for The Times and Confront and Conceal (https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/books/confront-and-conceal-by-david-sanger.html), he revealed the story of Olympic Games, the code name for the most sophisticated cyberattack in history, the American-Israeli effort to sabotage Iran's nuclear program with the Stuxnet worm. His journalistic pursuit of the origins of Stuxnet became the subject of the documentary “Zero Days” which made the short list of Academy Award documentaries in 2016. With his Times colleague Bill Broad, he also described, in early 2017, a parallel cybereffort against North Korea. Mr. Sanger was a leading member of the team that investigated the causes of the Challenger disaster in 1986, which was awarded a Pulitzer in national reporting the following year. A second Pulitzer, in 1999, was awarded to a team that investigated the struggles within the Clinton administration over controlling technology exports to China. He has also won the Weintal Prize for diplomatic reporting for his coverage of the Iraq and Korea crises, the Aldo Beckman prize for coverage of the presidency, and, in two separate years, the Merriman Smith Memorial Award, for coverage of national security issues. “Nuclear Jihad” the documentary that Mr. Sanger reported for Discovery/Times Television, won the duPont-Columbia Award for its explanation of the workings of the A. Q. Khan nuclear proliferation network. That coverage was also a finalist for a Pulitzer. A 1982 graduate of Harvard College, Mr. Sanger was the first senior fellow in The Press and National Security at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard. With Graham T. Allison Jr., he co-teaches Central Challenges in American National Security, Strategy and the Press at the Kennedy School of Government.

David McCabe (https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-mccabe) is a tech policy reporter at The New York Times, based in Washington D.C., a position he has held since August 2019. David was most recently at Axios, where he covered tech policy and early on spotted the growing backlash against the tech companies, including conversations on the left about the reach of Amazon. That led him to examine how the tech giants were working to influence the debate and how policymakers were steering the agenda. Along the way, he had scoops, such as the behind-the-scenes details of how the White House was trying to calm the trade fears of tech companies. Before Axios, David worked at The Hill, where he covered tech policy and breaking news. He was also a politics intern at The Huffington Post and has interned in radio.

• A version of this article appears in The New York Times on Tuesday, February 18, 2020, on page A1 of the New York print edition with the headline: “Europe Resisting Campaign by U.S. To Block Huawei”.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/politics/us-huawei-5g.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/politics/us-huawei-5g.html)

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 22, 2020, 08:16:57 am
The EU is an unelected communist dictatorship elite who don't even pay taxes

if they don't mind the Chinese government spying and stealing all their secrets that's their problem lol


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 25, 2020, 05:46:09 pm
Chinese economy collapses and stops because of coronavirus

According to Chinese industry experts, in February 2020, oil consumption in China is going to fall by 25 percen due to an outbreak of the coronavirus infection in the country. The new virus, which is commonly referred to as Wuhan flu, has paralyzed tourism and forced many enterprises to temporarily shut down their activities.

Demand for oil in China is to drop by 3.2 million barrels per day in February 2020 compared to February 2019. Such a decline is equivalent to more than three percent of global consumption.

According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), oil consumption in China in February last year amounted to a little less than 13 million barrels a day.

While Beijing is trying to take control of the coronavirus infection, Chinese oil refineries are facing significant declines in their sales.

Experts also believe that demand for oil in China in March of this year will be at least ten percent lower than a year earlier if the peak of the burden of the disease passes in the coming weeks.

Oil consumption in China falls amid coronarivus outbreak
Oil demand in China is believed to decline by three or four percent in February, because the Chinese economy has come to a standstill. The production activity has declined, the passenger traffic fell by as much as 70 percent, while freight traffic has halved. Against such a background, experts expect the Chinese economy to be still for at least two weeks.

Independent Chinese refiners are forced to cut refining volumes by at least 50 percent. The sale of petroleum products in China has fallen by 90 percent due to logistics problems. This has increased stocks by more than 50 percent.

The consumption of gasoline and diesel fuel in China during the New Year's Eve on the Lunar calendar in 2020 was almost two-thirds less than a year earlier. In Shandong, the center of oil trade - the average capacity rate among independent oil refineries decreased by 40-50%, which is a record low.

The decrease in demand in January was reported in spite of the traditional surge in connection with an increase in fuel sales as many Chinese people travel for New Year festivities. Oil quotes have dropped amid concerns about a decline in fuel demand in China


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 25, 2020, 09:08:35 pm

Meanwhile, the American sharemarket is tanking too, because vital supplies of stuff from China that America is no longer producing itself are in short supply.

Actually, if China has any sense, they'll simply ban exports of rare earth metals to America, because without those rare earth metals from China, American manufacturing and tech industries would be absolutely fucked. And 95 percent of all rare earth metals come from China.

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 26, 2020, 05:20:22 am
You will love a World Depression Mr White Trash Comrade Dumbo

I can see you now licking your lips as you wait in a long line outside the Salvation Army soup kitchen in the cold of winter
in your rags and wearing your coronavirus mask, if you're not already dead from the worlds greatest Bioweapon of mass destruction

Even though I feel sad for the Chinese people this is a great reason to opt-out of globalism that outsourced everyone's jobs so an inernational elite club could get rich.

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 26, 2020, 09:39:45 am

Well, Trump is doing his best to start a world depression with his stupid trade wars.

Just goes to show how unintelligent America's “fake president” really is, eh?

No wonder the rest of the world is laughing at America and their dumbarse emperor with no clothes.

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 26, 2020, 03:00:17 pm
that's funny on the news they seem to think the markets have the jitters about the coronavirus spreading around the world and  the supply of goods frozen in China

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 28, 2020, 03:55:59 pm
I believe China that has a massive amount of old people decided to get rid of most of them with a virus that kills mostly old people and sick people
think of all the money western governments will save world wide by killing off all the pensioners  ;D

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 29, 2020, 02:05:42 pm

from The New York Times…

American Stocks Suffer Worst Week Since Financial Crisis Amid Coronavirus Fears (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus.html)

The S&P 500 tumbled for a seventh day, and other economic indicators are flashing warning signs.

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Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 29, 2020, 02:16:33 pm

Anyway, Donald J. Trump's new medicine man is going to fix everything, so you can stop worrying & indulging in stupid headless-chookism…

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Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 29, 2020, 02:49:06 pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Gnari_sTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Gnari_sTU)

Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 03, 2020, 04:21:24 am
Welcome to the Commie Hell Slave Factory


Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 04, 2020, 11:34:06 pm

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Title: Re: Meanwhile in China lots of people are dead
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 05, 2020, 05:27:21 pm