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« on: March 04, 2009, 07:06:51 am »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1996598/Terror-tenants-told-to-get-out

Housing New Zealand is evicting five people it says are terrorising the Lower Hutt suburb of Pomare.

The hardline approach comes after a woman and her two young children fled their Farmer Cres home last month following threats.

Housing NZ delivered tenancy termination notices to five tenants in and around Farmer Cres yesterday, giving them 90 days to leave.

Residents of the houses included three gang members charged with intimidating the woman and two men who allegedly burgled her home a day later.

The new national policy, which sidesteps the Tenancy Tribunal, follows a two-year legal battle to get the Salt family -dubbed "the neighbours from hell" - evicted from a state house in Auckland.

Housing NZ chief executive Lesley McTurk was satisfied the five tenants or their households had "severely disturbed the community", which deserved to have its safety protected.

They were monitoring nearly 30 other state house tenants in Pomare and may take action if they breached their tenancy obligations.

Dr McTurk said there had been home invasions and other anti- social incidents in Pomare during the past six months.

"We have not been able to take action in those cases because of the difficulty in getting evidence from witnesses who are too intimidated or terrorised by their neighbours to come forward."

Housing NZ would work with police in Pomare to tackle gang activity, and would also review troubled tenancies throughout the country.

But the evictions of gang members would only really hurt their women and children, relatives say.

Patria Tamaka, who has lived in Farmer Cres most of her life, said the evictions would mean at least 15 children were wrenched out of the tight-knit community.

The news had left the gang members' partners wondering where they would go.

"I knew people would have to be evicted as the area was renewed, but not like this. It's not fair. It's the women and children who are going to pay."

About bloody time.  They will have to turn their freaken gang headquarters into a hostel then won't they. 
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Magoo
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 07:17:41 am »

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Patria Tamaka, who has lived in Farmer Cres most of her life, said the evictions would mean at least 15 children were wrenched out of the tight-knit community.

The news had left the gang members' partners wondering where they would go.

"I knew people would have to be evicted as the area was renewed, but not like this. It's not fair. It's the women and children who are going to pay."

I suppose one could argue about the rights of the people living there that were not gang members and their ongoing safety now.   I wonder if the women who got into relationships with gang members ever considered that their lives and that of their children may be impaired in any way by this association.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 07:54:50 am »

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But the evictions of gang members would only really hurt their women and children, relatives say.

I'm not sorry and I dont give a toss.
If they are content to stay living with criminals and thugs - with their children almost certainly being brought up to be criminals and thugs - then boo-hoo. 
I'm sure the relatives will rally round and proved accomodation and sustinence for them. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 08:29:37 am »

Totally agree. The rights of others that have to put up with these gang members living on their streets out weigh the rights of the women who choose to live in the house with the gang members.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 10:09:39 am »

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But the evictions of gang members would only really hurt their women and children, relatives say.

I'm not sorry and I dont give a toss.
If they are content to stay living with criminals and thugs - with their children almost certainly being brought up to be criminals and thugs - then boo-hoo. 

hear hear
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Kiwithrottlejockey
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 01:20:31 pm »





I guess Farmer Crescent, Pomare's problem is about to become someone else's problem neighbours from hell.
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Magoo
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2009, 02:36:22 pm »

I wonder how long before Farmer Crescent has a new name.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 04:29:15 pm »

Mr DT's comment when watching it on the news............

"Let the fuckers buy their own fucken houses with their fucken drug money".

He then started yelling at the idiot on the TV who was whinging they weren't guilty........"You're wearing your fucken guilt on your fucken tshirt you stupid fuck".   

Hehe........ my man, he's so passionate. Kiss
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 05:50:11 am »

I laughed when the gang member on 3 news last night said that this isn't a way to treat customers. Oh well if he doesn't like the service go somewhere else!!!
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Kiwithrottlejockey
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 10:53:15 am »

Oh well if he doesn't like the service go somewhere else!!!


Unless they mysteriously vapourise and disappear altogether, they WILL go elsewhere.

They may even end up as YOUR next door neighbours from hell!
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 11:09:00 am »

Yeah Well - We'll just have to keep moving them on until they make it to somewhere theyre appreciated, wont we.

[Better get used to travelling]



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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2009, 09:30:52 pm »

Tribunal rules for Housing NZ in eviction case

Housing New Zealand can evict three Lower Hutt families with gang connections from their state housing units, the Tenancy Tribunal has decided.

In March this year Housing NZ served 90-day notices to three women living in a Farmer Crescent state housing block after neighbours complained about intimidation, threats and burglary.

Police arrested and charged several Mongrel Mob members as a result of investigations, some of whom were partners of the tenants in question.

The tenants refused to adhere to the eviction notices and the case ended up in the tribunal's hands.

Housing NZ argued at the Wellington hearing this month that it was simply seeking possession of its units, as it - and any other landlord - was entitled to do as long as correct procedures were followed.

A lawyer for the tenants, Robert Lithgow QC, argued the evictions were discriminatory and breached the Bill of Rights Act.

In a reserved decision, the tribunal ruled in favour of Housing N Z, but Mr Lithgow told NZPA his clients would appeal against the decision to the District Court.

He said that while technically they could be evicted pending an appeal he would be "very surprised" if Housing NZ did that.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/5763819
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Kiwithrottlejockey
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2009, 09:37:38 pm »




Watch out Newtown-Fella....they may move to Newtown and end up living next to you!  Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2009, 09:47:33 pm »

Oh well if he doesn't like the service go somewhere else!!!


Unless they mysteriously vapourise and disappear altogether, they WILL go elsewhere.

They may even end up as YOUR next door neighbours from hell!


Vapourising them or making them disapear certainly has merit.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2009, 10:33:54 pm »




Watch out Newtown-Fella....they may move to Newtown and end up living next to you!  Shocked

no i heard that they were heading over the hill to Masterton to join their bro's already terrorising that area of NZ
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2009, 10:56:51 pm »


If there are any Mongies based over here, then they must have a good hiding place because I've never seen them.

I do however from time to time see Mongies in town with Wellington on the bottom of their patches.

And Newtown is in Wellington so it's quite conceivable that the current Farmer Crescent problem could become a future Newtown problem....Grin



It's actually like chasing paedophiles out of town. They simply end up in someone else's town. Which means that when other towns chase their paedos away, they could end up in your town. Just like Mongies who are booted out of one particular suburb and end up in another pissing off a new set of neighbours who were probably applauding them being booted out of the Mongies' previous neighbourhood until they ended up living next to the people who were applauding them being forced to move. Sometimes, you can wish for something, but then discover that the result turns into a nightmare for you!
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2009, 06:23:00 am »


Watch out Newtown-Fella....they may move to Newtown and end up living next to you!  Shocked

Then again, they may not move at all.

                                       

                                                           
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2009, 10:35:16 am »

nope they are going to waste more taxpayers dollars and appeal ....


talk about mad maori ......

LATEST: Three Lower Hutt families with gang connections will appeal a Tenancy Tribunal decision that would see them evicted from their state housing units.

In March, five households in Farmer Cres with Mongrel Mob links were issued 90-day notices terminating their tenancies after "severely disturbing the community".

There had been complaints of intimidation, burglary and anti-social behaviour by the families and their gang-member partners. It was alleged a family and immigrants had fled the street after being intimidated.

Two of the families moved before their notices expired. But Billy Taylor, Robyn Winther and Huia Tamaka appealed to the tribunal to have the orders overturned.

In a reserved decision released yesterday, the tribunal ruled in favour of Housing NZ, after the government agency argued it was simply seeking possession of its units, as it - and any other landlord - was entitled to do as long as correct procedures were followed.

Tribunal adjudicator Karun Lakshman said a landlord had no obligation to give a reason for 90 days' notice.

"In the present case, the reasons given by the corporation, even if unlawful, do not make the notice bad."

Robert Lithgow, QC[/b], who represented the women at the tribunal hearing, argued the evictions were discriminatory and breached the Bill of Rights Act.

He said his clients would appeal the decision to the District Court and this morning said the women had already drafted appeals and would seek a stay on their eviction.

He said the Government had a plan.

''They are going to have a go at the Mongrel Mob and they don't care who they hurt on the way,'' he told Radio New Zealand.

Housing NZ chief executive Lesley Turk said it was pleased to be granted the possession orders. It encouraged tenants to be good neighbours. If they chose not to their tenancies would be terminated.

Dr Turk said state tenants, like any tenants, had an obligation to abide by the tenancy agreement and "avoid disturbing the harmony of their neighbourhood".

"If they fail to do this, then they risk losing the opportunity of living in a state home."


The families will be given time to leave but Housing NZ said it would enforce the possession order if necessary.

It was willing to help the families find new accommodation but "to date, they haven't taken up this offer".

"We can now focus on making Pomare a better place to live for the 100 or so Housing NZ tenants who live there."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/2705759/Pomare-evictions-to-be-appealed
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2009, 11:07:11 am »

Oh well if he doesn't like the service go somewhere else!!!


Unless they mysteriously vapourise and disappear altogether, they WILL go elsewhere.

They may even end up as YOUR next door neighbours from hell!


Only if they join the Air Force they would end up next door to me, living in a military house. I doubt that will happen.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2009, 09:13:33 pm »

The bit I find really interesting is that HNZ has evicted three women. Most couples who rent state houses have both their names on the tenancy agreement (even if the 'partner' has moved in after the agreement was first signed). Usually it's just those who are scamming WINZ at the same time that don't.  Undecided
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2009, 10:12:42 pm »

The bit I find really interesting is that HNZ has evicted three women. Most couples who rent state houses have both their names on the tenancy agreement (even if the 'partner' has moved in after the agreement was first signed). Usually it's just those who are scamming WINZ at the same time that don't.  Undecided

simple their arsehole gang member partners wouldnt get a shoe in the door if they applied   ..

what pisses me off is these lot would have been on subsidised income related rent paying no more 25% of their net (take-home) income on rent   ....

rents in Naenae on TradeMe range from $315 - $355 for a 3 bedroom house ....

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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2009, 09:10:38 am »

Bailiffs to enforce Housing NZ eviction notices
Updated at 6:46am on 30 September 2009


Court bailiffs are to be sent to a Mongrel Mob enclave in Lower Hutt as Housing New Zealand readies itself to evict tenants.

Five families were issued with 90-day tenancy termination notices in March following gang intimidation in Farmer Crescent.

Three unsuccessfully took their case to the Tenancy Tribunal and a District Court appeal has also been rejected.

The tenants have continually refused Housing New Zealand's help to find alternative, private accommodation.

Chief executive Lesley McTurk says the corporation hopes to meet the families this week but will also be referring the matter to bailiffs to enforce possession orders on the houses.

Ms McTurk says Housing New Zealand is confident of its position and will pursue the matter further if the tenants appeal to the High Court.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/stories/2009/09/30/1245c8bfece0
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 09:29:30 am »

Bailiffs to enforce Housing NZ eviction notices
Updated at 6:46am on 30 September 2009


Court bailiffs are to be sent to a Mongrel Mob enclave in Lower Hutt as Housing New Zealand readies itself to evict tenants.

Five families were issued with 90-day tenancy termination notices in March following gang intimidation in Farmer Crescent.

Three unsuccessfully took their case to the Tenancy Tribunal and a District Court appeal has also been rejected.

The tenants have continually refused Housing New Zealand's help to find alternative, private accommodation.

Chief executive Lesley McTurk says the corporation hopes to meet the families this week but will also be referring the matter to bailiffs to enforce possession orders on the houses.

Ms McTurk says Housing New Zealand is confident of its position and will pursue the matter further if the tenants appeal to the High Court.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/stories/2009/09/30/1245c8bfece0

yet another successful swipe at gangs ...

when will they learn that many NZers dont want nor will they tolerate their insidious behaviour  ....

now the taxpayer funded clean up and decontamination of these properties can begin and decent worthy tenants found  ....

and the tone of the area will improve ....



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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2009, 08:38:52 am »

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yet another successful swipe at gangs ...

when will they learn that many NZers dont want nor will they tolerate their insidious behaviour  ....

now the taxpayer funded clean up and decontamination of these properties can begin and decent worthy tenants found  ....

and the tone of the area will improve ....

Successful? 

Not yet!



Bailoffs on hold pending eviction appeal
Updated at 5:47am on 7 October 2009

Housing New Zealand has stopped bailiffs removing tenants with Mongrel Mob links in a suburb of Lower Hutt.

The families were issued with 90 day tenancy termination notices in March, after gang intimidation in Farmer Crescent.

After a court victory last week, Housing New Zealand advised that bailiffs would enforce the possession orders.

But the tenants lodged an appeal on Friday, at about the same time as they received a week's notice of the repossessions.

At a preliminary hearing in the High Court, the agency agreed to delay the bailiffs until a judgment on the matter is handed down.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/stories/2009/10/07/1245cd56b321
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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 07:04:54 am »

now where is the money coming from for this lot to keep fighting Housing NZ ...?

let me guess ......

mmmm money they won at Housie ? Lotto Scratchies ? .....

Farmer Cres evictions put on hold

Gang-linked families in Lower Hutt's Farmer Cres will get to stay in their homes for a few more days, as another round of legal wrangles begins.

For three months Housing New Zealand has battled to evict three women residents and their 13 children through the Tenancy Tribunal, district court and the High Court – costing the government department tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees.

The residents' lawyers were now trying to go to the Court of Appeal, and there was the possibility they could go all the way to the Supreme Court.

Though the women – who have partners in the Mongrel Mob – were ordered to leave their homes by midnight yesterday, the evictions were put on hold for a hearing in the High Court at Wellington on Wednesday.

Farmer Cres resident Patria Tamaka, whose sister Huia Tamaka was one of the women facing eviction, said they were expecting police or the army to turn up any time to remove them. But they had not started packing.

"We'll keep going and going until we get to the Supreme Court. The girls all know that. [Housing NZ] are not backing down and we don't want to leave."

A Housing NZ spokesman said they would take the fight to evict the troublesome tenants all the way to the Supreme Court, regardless of the cost.

"We took this course of action to help and protect the community and we cannot resile from that. Let's hope it doesn't get to the Supreme Court."

In March, Housing NZ issued 90-day eviction notices to five addresses in and around Farmer Cres after an early-morning police raid. It was alleged that a trio of Mongrel Mob members had terrorised a woman and two small children into leaving their home, but the case fell over when a key witness refused to testify.

Yesterday three police cars were cruising Farmer Cres, towing away a stolen car and looking for others. They believed the Mongrel Mob was involved in the theft.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/local/3017009/Farmer-Cres-evictions-put-on-hold
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