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« Reply #525 on: August 13, 2015, 07:49:28 pm »

Yes..I agree the coal price going from $250/t down to $80/t is very unfortunate..but I guess ktj and his Green party cummunist mates will be very happy Grin

..think of all the CO2 not coming out of the ground Tongue
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« Reply #526 on: August 13, 2015, 07:50:48 pm »


Do you also think it was a good thing for Billy-boy English (as the government's sole representative shareholder) to tell Solid Energy to take on a shitload more debt and increase the dividend payout to the government?
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« Reply #527 on: August 13, 2015, 07:54:44 pm »

Yes..I know the Greens..and ktj will be very happy that the coal mine will close...just think of all that CO2 staying in the ground Grin

...happy days Grin

this will probably stop global warming... Wink
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« Reply #528 on: August 13, 2015, 08:41:41 pm »


Yeah, that's right....evade answering the question....as always.
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« Reply #529 on: August 13, 2015, 09:04:45 pm »

I guess...as a Greens party supporter ..you must be very happy at the prospect of the coal mine closing...mind you...I have not seen the Greens policy for today Wink
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« Reply #530 on: August 13, 2015, 09:12:26 pm »


Still evading answering the question, because you know you cannot answer it honestly without making a total dork of yourself.

Mate, I'd put a bullet through my head if I ever ended up being as stupid as you.
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« Reply #531 on: August 13, 2015, 09:27:43 pm »

So...do you support the Greens party slime...and the closing down of the coal mine...? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #532 on: August 13, 2015, 09:31:40 pm »


Dumbarse.........it is not up to the Green Party (or any other political party) to close down assets they do not have control of.

There is only one single shareholder for Solid Energy and that is the current Nats government, with Billy-boy English holding that single shareholding on behalf of the government.

So why don't you ask the incompetent Billy-boy, 'cause he is the only person who has any direct control over the company.

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« Reply #533 on: August 13, 2015, 09:35:11 pm »

What ..is this a parting in the ways of kj from his idol...the Greens (what are their policies today)party..?

...so ..you like coal now Grin
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« Reply #534 on: August 13, 2015, 09:38:31 pm »


I'll tell you what....seeing as I started asking questions first, you honestly answer ALL of the questions I have posted for you on various threads today, and if you can manage to answer all of those questions honestly and truthfully, then I'll honestly and truthfully answer your question.

Fair enough? If you are going to be deliberably evasive at answering my questions, then I'll treat your question in exactly the same manner.
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« Reply #535 on: August 13, 2015, 09:41:50 pm »

...hahaha..so ..you do like coal mining now.....have the Greens backflipped again ..ahhhahaha Grin
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« Reply #536 on: August 13, 2015, 10:07:23 pm »


Yep, we get it....you're as DUMB as a bucket of sawdust.
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« Reply #537 on: August 14, 2015, 09:42:13 am »

The Greens..(and their most sheepish of supporters, Roll Eyes KTJ) would love nothing more than to see those 700 workers down at WINZ..signing on the dole
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from THE DURANGO HERALD....

A tragic tale in Ouray

A failed mining dream and the origin of ‘Danny Boy’.

By ANDREW GULLIFORD | 1:43PM - Friday, December 12, 2014

Margaret Weatherly, or Jess, and husband, Edward, ran the Neosho Mine south of Ouray in the early 20th century. The dump pile and rails she is standing on are still there, hanging off a ledge in Uncompahgre Gorge. Margaret matched an Irish folk tune with her brother-in-law’s words to create the song “Danny Boy”, but she was never credited for her collaboration. The dirt road that would become U.S. Highway 550 can be seen behind her. — Photograph: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives.
Margaret Weatherly, or Jess, and husband, Edward, ran the Neosho Mine south of Ouray in the early 20th century. The dump pile
and rails she is standing on are still there, hanging off a ledge in Uncompahgre Gorge. Margaret matched an Irish folk tune with
her brother-in-law’s words to create the song “Danny Boy”, but she was never credited for her collaboration. The dirt road that
would become U.S. Highway 550 can be seen behind her. — Photograph: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives.


DRIVING NORTH toward Ouray on U.S. Highway 550, high above the Uncompahgre Gorge at 9,000 feet, you can see a mine shack with colorful laundry hanging from it. A sign reads “Antiques, 9-5”. Travelers gasp at the building perched on this narrow ledge and wonder how to get there.

But the story of the Neosho Mine involves more than the visual pun of multicolored T-shirts displayed by the Ouray County Historical Society. The story includes a world famous song with a haunting melody perhaps inspired by the isolation and loneliness of working in remote mines in the snowy San Juans.

It has taken me years to find the mine and the family photos and to piece together this tragic tale. Leigh Ann Hunt, archaeologist for the Grand Mesa, Uncompahgre and Gunnison National Forests, and I hiked into the mine high above Highway 550 this fall. Below us, across the gorge, the parade of vehicles looked like tiny Matchbox cars. On the trail, we found two wooden sheds, the entrance to the Neosho Mine and the blacksmith shop with its distinctive center cupola. Laundry hung between the shop and a tall pine tree.

Farther down the narrow trail, we came to the faded red, wooden bunkhouse with sagging rotten floors and evidence of pack rats. On the west side of the structure, the distinctive tooth marks of hungry porcupines indicated the snow line. The real prize was unnoticed on the door.

Volunteers in 2012 and 2013 provided more than 150 hours of labor to stabilize the aging blacksmith shop. The State Historical Fund dedicated $4,000 for a structural assessment and the Grand Mesa, Uncompahgre and Gunnison National Forests provided the materials. Technical assistance came from Hunt, the forest heritage program manager; Donald Paulson, curator of the Ouray County Historical Society's museum; Joseph Gallagher (also known as “Log Doc”) from Heritage Preservation Resources in Boise, Idaho; and Brad Wallace of Btb Construction in Ridgway. Limited funds only permitted work on the blacksmith shop.

As I walked up steps into the bunkhouse, I swung open the original four-paneled wooden door and explored the structure with its cooking area on the east side and wooden bunks around the room. There was no insulation. When winter storms blew around the pine trees, nights would have dropped well below freezing. Miners would have huddled around a stove now gone. Then, sitting on the front steps, I looked again at the door and found a few names scrawled on it, including the penciled inscription: Margaret Weatherly, June 7th, 1924.

At that moment the story I had heard finally came together — a story of a famous song, an enduring marriage and a failed mine.


Edward Weatherly, the brother of Fred Weatherly who wrote the words to “Danny Boy”, posed as a patrician from a family of English royalty. In reality, he was a penniless younger son who pretended to be a medical doctor. — Photograph: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives. Looking like a character out of a Shakespearean tragedy, Edward Weatherly stands amid the ruins of his cabin on steep slopes south of Ouray. He lost his cabin to an avalanche. He would die in poverty after betting on a mining claim that never paid off. — Photograph: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives.
LEFT: Edward Weatherly, the brother of Fred Weatherly who wrote the words to “Danny Boy”, posed as a patrician from a family of
English royalty. In reality, he was a penniless younger son who pretended to be a medical doctor. | RIGHT: Looking like a character
out of a Shakespearean tragedy, Edward Weatherly stands amid the ruins of his cabin on steep slopes south of Ouray. He lost his
cabin to an avalanche. He would die in poverty after betting on a mining claim that never paid off.
 — Both photographs: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives.


MARGARET grew up the daughter of an itinerant Irish laborer. Like thousands of Irishmen who fled the Emerald Isle, her father came to America to seek his fortune and found only backbreaking work on railroads. But he sang to his children, and he brought tales and tunes from the old country.

She'd had a bitter early marriage, then she met the love of her life, Dr. Edward Weatherly. How they came to settle in Ouray remains obscure, but Dr. Weatherly became a mining expert, a passionate proponent of a silver, instead of a gold, monetary standard and a writer for the Ouray Times. He never practiced medicine, though he claimed to have gotten his degree from Oxford University. Family files and photographs filling 31 boxes have resided at the University of Colorado Boulder Archives since 1936, including his obituary from The Durango Herald.

He frequently returned to England to seek funding for Ouray mines, particularly his own, the Neosho. A tall, handsome man, he struck a professional air around the small mining town. If anyone questioned why an Oxford-trained physician would come to tiny Ouray and engage in mining prospects, no one asked. In the mining West, you created your own persona and left it at that. If Weatherly could encourage British investment in Ouray mines, so much the better. But, with a proud demeanor and frayed cuffs, he always seemed a penny short. Eddie and Jess, the nickname for his wife, Margaret, moved to Ouray in 1907.


Edward Weatherly, far left, and immigrant mine workers stand at the portal of the Neosho Mine. Weatherly sunk thousands of his brother's British pounds into the mine, which never paid off. Hikers can get to the mine and buildings after a rigorous trek up from the Yankee Boy Basin Road. — Photograph: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives.
Edward Weatherly, far left, and immigrant mine workers stand at the portal of the Neosho Mine. Weatherly sunk thousands of his
brother's British pounds into the mine, which never paid off. Hikers can get to the mine and buildings after a rigorous trek up
from the Yankee Boy Basin Road. — Photograph: Courtesy of University of Colorado Boulder Archives.


THE real success in the family was his brother Fred Weatherly, who stayed in England, practiced law and began to write songs. Fred lost his son and his father within three months. Out of a deep sense of grief, Fred wrote a poignant poem about love, loss and failed opportunity. He sent the poem to Ed who shared it with his Irish wife.

From the oral traditions of her itinerant father, Margaret remembered an ancient Londonderry air or tune — perhaps once played on harps by blind singers. Or she may have heard the tune played by Irish miners in the bars and saloons of Ouray.

Margaret sent the notated manuscript of the music to her brother-in-law in England. Thus “Danny Boy”, copy written in 1913, became one of the best-selling and beloved songs of the 20th century, in part because of so many deaths during World War I and World War II. Tenors everywhere learned it. Thus, the song, sung at Irish celebrations and wakes for the dead all over the world, has a Ouray connection.

Psychiatrist Anthony Mann, a descendant of Fred Weatherly and the author of In Sunshine and in Shadow: The Family Story of Danny Boy, writes of his relative: “The skill of his words is such that they convey strong emotion without it being tied to a specific situation; singer and listener can imagine whomever they wish. These words of loss and reunion after death had special resonance with Irish people.”

If the song is about tragedy, so is the family history.


A sight familiar to travelers between Durango and Ouray, the Neosho Mine blacksmith shop with its eye-catching clothesline, is perched on a ledge high above U.S. Highway 550. Three of the mine's buildings, including the blacksmith shop, have been stabilized by volunteers from the Ouray County Historical Society. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.
A sight familiar to travelers between Durango and Ouray, the Neosho Mine blacksmith shop with its eye-catching clothesline,
is perched on a ledge high above U.S. Highway 550. Three of the mine's buildings, including the blacksmith shop, have been
stabilized by volunteers from the Ouray County Historical Society. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.


The west side of the Neosho Mine bunkhouse shows evidence of hungry porcupines gnawing on the wooden clapboards as they stood atop snowbanks. Trees obscure the view of the bunkhouse from U.S. Highway 550. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.
The west side of the Neosho Mine bunkhouse shows evidence of hungry porcupines gnawing on the wooden clapboards
as they stood atop snowbanks. Trees obscure the view of the bunkhouse from U.S. Highway 550.
 — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.


OFTEN destitute and scrambling for funds, Dr. Edward Weatherly lived a lie. He never finished Oxford. He never became a physician. And in turn, his brother never acknowledged the role of Margaret in matching an ancient Irish tune to his soulful words.

Margaret's name did not appear on the copyright, and perhaps to assuage his guilt, Fred loaned thousands of English pounds for his brother's Ouray mining schemes. He never acknowledged her collaboration. Instead, he sent money to America, and his brother bought dynamite and hired miners.

The Neosho Mine never paid well, and Edward Weatherly became embroiled in bad investments, lawsuits and failed prospects. An avalanche destroyed their cabin, which was higher on the ridge than the bunkhouse. Like so many mining hopefuls, the Weatherlys believed in Ouray and believed in the promise of their silver mine, but paydays were few and far between.

Hard times became worse with the Great Depression.

Edward Weatherly died in 1934, and his Ouray grave would be unmarked. Out of her deep grief after his death, his loving wife slipped into insanity, and she passed away at the state mental hospital in Pueblo in 1938. She never lost faith in her husband or in the mine that broke them both, but she became suspicious and paranoid, scribbling doggerel on scraps of paper left in her cluttered cabin in town.


Corner bunks still stand in place at the Neosho Mine bunkhouse even though the ceiling needs work and the floor is rotting. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.
Corner bunks still stand in place at the Neosho Mine bunkhouse even though the ceiling needs work and the floor is rotting.
 — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.


Margaret Weatherly and her husband, Edward, had high hopes for the Neosho Mine when she penciled her inscription on the bunkhouse door on June 7th, 1924. Instead, within a decade her husband would be dead. Two years after his death she would be committed to the state mental hospital in Pueblo. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.
Margaret Weatherly and her husband, Edward, had high hopes for the Neosho Mine when she penciled her inscription on
the bunkhouse door on June 7th, 1924. Instead, within a decade her husband would be dead. Two years after his death
she would be committed to the state mental hospital in Pueblo. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.


TRAVELERS hundreds of feet below look up at the Neosho's blacksmith shop and wonder what it is. Volunteers have preserved three smaller structures, though the bunkhouse needs stabilization to keep it from sliding down the mountain.

As I sat in the doorway looking at Margaret's penciled signature and the date June 7th, 1924, I hoped that had been a good summer for the couple.

Mann wrote: “Margaret identified throughout her life with her Irish roots, seeing them as the source of her strong Catholic faith, her love of singing and her thick, lustrous red brown hair.”

I hope she sang near the bunkhouse and mine. Maybe she even sang:

Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling, from glen to glen and down the mountainside.

The summer's gone, and all the roses falling.

It's you, it's you must go and I must bide.”


Andrew Gulliford is a professor of history and environmental studies at Fort Lewis College.

The mine entrance includes the original Neosho Mine sign and modern signage warning of the dangers of entering a 19th century mining portal. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford. Forest archaeologist and Forest Heritage Manager Leigh Ann Hunt, seen at the Neosho Mine bunkhouse, helped bring volunteers and professionals together to save one of Ouray's most important mining landmarks, buildings with a direct connection to one of the 20th century's most famous songs. — Photograph: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.
LEFT: The mine entrance includes the original Neosho Mine sign and modern signage warning of the dangers of entering a 19th century
mining portal. | RIGHT: Forest archaeologist and Forest Heritage Manager Leigh Ann Hunt, seen at the Neosho Mine bunkhouse,
helped bring volunteers and professionals together to save one of Ouray's most important mining landmarks, buildings with
a direct connection to one of the 20th century's most famous songs. — Both photographs: Courtesy of Andrew Gulliford.


http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20141214/COLUMNISTS02/141219863
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« Reply #541 on: October 14, 2015, 04:22:36 pm »


from The Dominion Post....

Chaos on the tracks after Ngauranga train crash

By REBECCA THOMSON | 5:00AM - Wednesday, 14 October 2015

A crowd of people looking at two trains, one damaged and derailed, as the result of a train crash on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/12-G.
A crowd of people looking at two trains, one damaged and derailed, as the result of a train crash on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road.
 — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/12-G.


SHEEP were flung across the tracks and a bull bolted for the hills after a Taita-bound passenger train rammed the back of a goods train at Ngauranga in June 1950.

“The sea at Ngauranga this morning was red with blood. It was caused by the slaughter of cattle and sheep — the only casualties in a spectacular train accident a few hundred yards north of the Ngauranga station,” The Evening Post reported on June 20th.

Freezing workers were called in to clear the sheep carcasses. They also ended up chasing a bull that ran off after being tipped from one of the capsized carriages. It  took off southwards and had nearly reached Kaiwharawhara by the time it was caught.

“Because of the danger to school children, the frenzied beast was shot,” The Post said.

The dead sheep were bundled into trucks and taken to a nearby freezing works reasonably quickly, but clearing the damaged trains took longer.

The Dominion detailed the wreckage. The wagons on the goods train were “smashed to matchwood”, and the woodwork and windows of the passenger train were splintered and broken, and the engine scored along one side.

“Wool caught on the the jagged end of the broken window fittings and the blood and dirt indicate at least one sheep had been thrust into the carriage in confusion,” said the paper.

The train line was closed for three hours while the accident was cleared.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/72955902



A photograph taken north of the Ngahauranga station near Wellington on 20th June 1950 showing two trains (one damaged and derailed), a dead sheep and a number of railways staff. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/07-G.
A photograph taken north of the Ngahauranga station near Wellington on 20th June 1950 showing two trains (one damaged and derailed),
a dead sheep and a number of railways staff. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/07-G.


Sheep and cattle on the railway line as the result of a train crash alongside the Hutt Road at Ngauranga on 20th June 1950. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/09-G.
Sheep and cattle on the railway line as the result of a train crash alongside the Hutt Road at Ngauranga on 20th June 1950.
 — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/09-G.


A crowd of people looking at two trains, one damaged and derailed, as the result of a train crash on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/13-G.
A crowd of people looking at two trains, one damaged and derailed, as the result of a train crash on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road.
 — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/13-G.


Interior of a damaged railway carriage as the result of a train crash alongside the Hutt Road at Ngauranga on 20th June 1950. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/11-G.
Interior of a damaged railway carriage as the result of a train crash alongside the Hutt Road at Ngauranga on 20th June 1950.
 — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/11-G.


A crowd of people looking at two trains, one damaged and derailed, as the result of a train crash on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/14-G.
A crowd of people looking at two trains, one damaged and derailed, as the result of a train crash on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road.
 — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/14-G.


A photograph taken north of the Ngauranga station near Wellington on 20th June 1950 showing two trains (one damaged and derailed), a dead sheep and a number of railways staff. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/08-G.
A photograph taken north of the Ngauranga station near Wellington on 20th June 1950 showing two trains (one damaged and derailed),
a dead sheep and a number of railways staff. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/08-G.


Two trains, one damaged and derailed, on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road at Ngauranga. Wellington Harbour is in the background. — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/10-G.
Two trains, one damaged and derailed, on the railway line alongside the Hutt Road at Ngauranga. Wellington Harbour is in the background.
 — Photograph: The Evening Post/Alexander Turnbull Library Ref: 114/159/10-G.

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« Reply #542 on: October 15, 2015, 07:00:30 pm »

yes..that was a very, very sad day Roll Eyes
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yup...maori elders need to help sort this shit out..or the govt will need to Roll Eyes

I GUESS THIS LEAVES MAORI WITH ABSOLUTELY ZERO EXCUSES

Admirable changes in attitude towards domestic violence in the Pasifika community.

Violence at home has long been a scourge disproportionately affecting New Zealand’s Pacific Island-identifying population.

But new figures appear to show domestic violence among Pacific peoples has dropped.

In the space of five years, Pasifika people, who account for seven per cent of the population, have gone from being among the most likely ethnic groups to experience domestic violence, to among the least.   

Those who have left violence behind them say new generations are bringing change.


However some who work in the sector say it is too soon to celebrate.

In 2008 one in five Pacific Islanders surveyed in the New Zealand Crime and Safety Survey (NZCASS) said they had experienced violence at the hands of their partners in the previous year.

Findings published this month showed that ratio has dropped to 1 in 16 experiencing at least one domestic violence incident – which includes psychological abuse – in the previous year.

If Pasifika can effect changes why can’t Maori?

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« Reply #546 on: October 26, 2015, 06:25:39 pm »

sad to see you have an infestation of cockies......keep your place clean up and they will go away Tongue

..or...get some good chemicals..and spray your house inside and out Wink
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sad to see you have an infestation of cockies......keep your place clean up and they will go away Tongue

..or...get some good chemicals..and spray your house inside and out Wink


You wanna know what a cockroach looks like?

That's easy.....LOOK IN A MIRROR!

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