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Some reading for the “anti-warmalists” and “climate-change deniers”


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« Reply #650 on: August 11, 2017, 12:04:29 am »

....and that's the great thing about democracy...we get what the majority of us deserve😉

...I wouldn't want it any other way...although I do feel for the minorities...but I manage not to lose any sleep over it😉
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« Reply #651 on: August 12, 2017, 11:24:37 am »

....looks like I will have to put off planting the mango trees...
....bloody global cooling😳

Global Warming delivers coldest NZ winter in eight years


It may have been warm overnight this week, but New Zealand is currently experiencing its coldest winter since 2009.

MetService meteorologist Georgina Griffiths said not only has it been cold, the main centres have also experienced more rain than last year, with Christchurch sitting at 134 per cent of its usual rainfall at 551mm compared with 411mm.

However, just to confuse people even more – especially in eastern parts of the country – temperatures are expected to hit 18 degrees, even 20 degrees in Napier, this weekend.

“It has been enormously wet and cold, it’s been a crappy year, basically. It’s an unusual and extremely volatile year.”


A volatile year.  Damn Global Warming.  I knew it was responsible for something.  Cold.  Wet.  And now?  Warm!

Can you believe it? 

She said most towns were “running quite cool bar this recent four or five day warm blip”.

“The temperatures for the first 60 per cent of the year, 220 days, Christchurch is running a full degree and a half cooler than this time last year. That might not sound much but actually when you get a year when it’s 1 degree above the long term average you’re almost into record territory.”

Wellington and Auckland were each running 1 degree colder than last year.

“It may not sound like much, but it’s very significant difference over a seven-month time period.”

OMG!

Surely this indicates the cusp of a mini Ice Age?  You know, like we had during the ’60s?

Or?

Or, the amount of sun spot activity is dropping as per normal solar seasonal variations, and all this is just another normal day in long term climate change.

But fear not Global Warming people.  In the face of the coldest winter in eight years, the scientists have found new hope:

“This is the coldest winter we have had in a long while – since 2009 for many regions. The difference in temperatures between last winter, which was incredibly warm, and this winter, has been absolutely noticeable on the wardrobe, and the power bill.”

MetService duty meteorologist April Clark told the Herald earlier today most of the country was enjoying temperatures on average up to 4C warmer than usual for this time of year.

“It has been, on average, warmer, especially than what we have been having. The last couple weeks of July, pretty much almost every main centre was colder than average. So maybe that’s why it’s feeling so warm.”

Maybe.

Thank goodness we don’t have to rely on uncorrupted science.  We can just go “meh, it feels warm, so… you know, maybe.”

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« Reply #652 on: August 12, 2017, 11:46:49 am »

The normal trend for the last 11000 or so years is gradual warming (with some spikes and troughs) and gradual sea level rise. If this continues it won't be a surprise. If the sun "goes quiet" for a significant period it also won't be a surprise if we get a significant period of no warming, or even bad cold. Don't throw away your long johns.
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« Reply #653 on: August 12, 2017, 12:49:33 pm »

I guess all the government funded climate bodies will have to "homogenize" all that evil unpleasant unwarm temp data, again 😁
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« Reply #654 on: August 12, 2017, 05:14:42 pm »


from The Washington Post....

EDITORIAL: This is how bad things could get
if Trump denies the reality of climate change


Recent studies provide a glimpse at the dangerous future ahead.

By EDITORIAL BOARD | 7:45PM EDT - Tuesday, August 08, 2017

Parched ground at the Guadalteba reservoir during a strong drought in Ardales, Spain. — Photograph: Jon Nazca/Reuters.
Parched ground at the Guadalteba reservoir during a strong drought in Ardales, Spain. — Photograph: Jon Nazca/Reuters.

OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, the Trump administration must decide whether to approve or suppress a major federal climate change report. Though scientists have signed off on its findings, including that the average U.S. temperature has spiked in the past several decades and that humans have almost certainly played a predominant role, President Trump and Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt have indicated they simply do not believe the experts.

Even as the federal climate assessment has been under review, the warnings have grown starker.

A paper published last week in Nature Climate Change offered a harrowing view. International negotiators committed in Paris to keeping global temperature rise below 2 degrees Celsius, the point past which experts warn warming could be very dangerous. Analysts from the University of Washington and the University of California at Santa Barbara found that there is only a 5 percent chance the world will achieve that goal.

Instead of predicting how technology or policy might change, the researchers looked at how nations have done until now and inferred from those trends what will happen in the future. As economies expand, they emit more planet-warming carbon dioxide into the air. Fortunately, over time economies also produce more efficiently, using less fuel and therefore emitting less carbon dioxide for every widget assembled or mile driven. By projecting population growth, economic expansion and carbon efficiency into the future, the analysts came up with a rough guide to where the global temperature will be at the end of the century.

They found that there is a 90 percent chance the world will warm between 2 degrees and 4.9 degrees Celsius, with a median of 3.2 degrees. Though this avoids the most alarming scenarios scientists have previously considered, it also excludes the least concerning, finding virtually no chance the Earth will keep warming below the desirable level of 1.5 degrees Celsius.

How does this translate into the real world? Some other new research provides answers. Experts at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles found that at 4.5 degrees of temperature rise by 2100, highly populated and impoverished swaths of South Asia would experience heat waves so extreme that human beings would not be able to survive without protection. At 2.25 degrees of warming, heat-wave temperatures in the region would be dangerous but not as deadly. Another new analysis from European Union researchers warned that deaths due to extreme weather across Europe could increase from about 3,000 per year to 152,000 annually if the Earth warmed 3 degrees by century’s end.

Each of these studies comes with caveats. For example, much of the risk would be averted with a strong global commitment to cutting carbon dioxide emissions, particularly if green technology became significantly cheaper, making it easier to decarbonize than in the past. Yet even if the breakthroughs do not come, or do not come fast enough, the latest research suggests it is neither unrealistic nor pointless to aim for the low end of the range of possible climate outcomes, even over 2 degrees, to at least limit the damage to the planet’s habitability. That path, however, requires leaders to admit there is a problem.


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Related to this topic:

 • The Washington Post's View: California's cap-and-trade program could offer other states guidance

 • Joel Clement: I'm a scientist. I'm blowing the whistle on the Trump administration.

 • The Washington Post's View: The dream of ‘clean coal’ is burning up

 • Robert J. Samuelson: Trump ignores the messy reality of global warming — and makes it all about him


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-bad-things-could-get-if-trump-denies-the-reality-of-climate-change/2017/08/08/087b8bb0-7bae-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html
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« Reply #655 on: August 12, 2017, 05:15:42 pm »

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« Reply #656 on: August 12, 2017, 09:43:58 pm »

Ain't got time to look at cartoons about fantasy, gut it's great to be back home in ....THE SUBTROPICAL NORTH😜
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« Reply #657 on: August 12, 2017, 10:48:58 pm »

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« Reply #658 on: August 13, 2017, 01:34:01 am »

Looks like a misrepresentation. Take a look at Vostok and Greenland ice core related graphs.

Also the last twenty years of Satellite data show flat to negligible warming as Co2 reaches new records. Warmunists have made dozens of wild theories of why this is so (this is after they tried to deny this warming pause existed). Again, they make little sense.
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« Reply #662 on: August 13, 2017, 03:40:06 am »

Listen to some talks on YouTube by Richard Lindzen, Judith Curry and John Christie. They are accomplished and highly published (yes peer reviewed) sceptics who know what they are talking about. Stefan Molyneux has also put together quite a good explanation of the "97% consensus" scam (he's not a scientist as far as I'm aware but he has assembled the facts in an easy to understand way, for those who bother to question the eco cult of Co2 doom).
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« Reply #663 on: August 13, 2017, 03:48:58 am »

Look at the credentials of the scientists I mentioned. There are sites like desmog blog and source watch that try to smear such scientists by weak association with fossil fuel money (they gave a talk at a foundation that received money from big oil etc etc). Desperate propaganda from a failing end of the world cult.
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« Reply #664 on: August 13, 2017, 04:06:21 am »

 







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« Reply #665 on: August 13, 2017, 06:42:25 pm »

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« Reply #666 on: August 13, 2017, 06:57:40 pm »

Oh jeeezzz....watch out he's going into one of his "cut and paste the same post ad infinitum" fetish attacks🙄
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« Reply #667 on: August 13, 2017, 07:41:52 pm »

The spam attacks that wrecked xnc2? I'm sure there's a therapy for that 😁
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« Reply #668 on: August 13, 2017, 08:06:59 pm »

Adj......"I'm sure there's a therapy for that 😁"

....yes... there is....but not sure if it's legal😉
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« Reply #669 on: August 13, 2017, 10:20:57 pm »

Warmunism is a religion. It's very much like a medieval or stone age religion. Dissidents must be silenced and damaged.
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« Reply #670 on: August 19, 2017, 08:25:36 pm »

And what about Arctic sea ice hysteria?



Oh dear, another massive nail in the alarmism coffin.  😀
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