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Some reading for the “anti-warmalists” and “climate-change deniers”

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« Reply #775 on: September 09, 2017, 10:05:42 am »

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« Reply #776 on: September 09, 2017, 10:08:53 am »

Still haven't found that missing sandwich eh? 😁
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« Reply #777 on: September 09, 2017, 10:36:31 am »


from the Los Angeles Tmes....

Hurricane Irma takes direct aim at Florida as time to evacuate is running out

‘Nuclear hurricane’ nears.

By JOHN CHERWA and LES NEUHAUS | 2:25PM PDT - Friday, September 08, 2017



HURRICANE IRMA continued its deadly sweep through the Caribbean on Friday as residents of Florida waited with frazzled nerves and growing fears over just how bad the storm will be.

The Category 4 hurricane with a footprint as big as Texas is expected to make landfall early on Sunday morning and blow through central Florida with 150 mph winds, reaching Georgia by Monday morning.

Mandatory evacuations were in place for most coastal areas, an area encompassing 650,000 people or more. Already, supplies of water, batteries, flashlights and plywood had disappeared from most stores throughout South Florida.

Streams of fleeing evacuees, from the Florida Keys to Miami and further north, were creeping north on the state's two major north-south arterials, Interstates 75 and 95. Traffic tie-ups were reported as far north as Ocala, 80 miles northwest of Orlando.

“All Floridians should be prepared to evacuate soon,” Governor Rick Scott said. “Remember Hurricane Andrew [in 1992] was one of the worst storms in the history of Florida. Irma is more devastating on its current path…. This is a catastrophic storm that our state has never seen.”

Miami Beach Mayor Philip Levine called it a “nuclear storm”.

The National Weather Service in Key West even tweeted in capital letters: “This is as real as it gets. Nowhere in the Florida Keys will be safe. You still have time to evacuate.”

Compared to Hurricane Harvey that hit southeast Texas, Irma will be faster moving, making it unlikely that Florida will see the kind of severe inland flooding that crippled Houston. However, for coastal cities such as Miami and Miami Beach, an anticipated storm surge of up to 10 feet could be catastrophic.

The storm, which is forecast to make landfall near Miami, is expected to drop between 8 to 10 inches of rain — a fifth of what Harvey dumped in parts of Texas — and up to 20 inches in isolated spots.

Florida has been under a state of emergency most of the week, with official hurricane warnings in effect as of 11 p.m. on Thursday for southern and central Florida. The outer bands of Irma were expected to creep over the state by Saturday morning, intensifying through the day.

Scott ordered all schools closed on Friday. Many will serve as shelters. Some in the Miami area had already reached capacity by mid-day on Friday.

Miami's homeless population of slightly more than 1,000 is being given the choice of going to a shelter or being taken involuntarily for a mental health evaluation, according to the Associated Press.

Florida, Florida State, Central Florida and South Florida universities all canceled their football games.

Scott also ordered the evacuation of seven cities near Lake Okeechobee.

But not everyone has had the ability to leave. At a mobile home park in northwest Miami, just blocks from the Little River Canal, many of the mainly Haitian and Latin American immigrant residents said they would be forced to remain.

Ernius Nonord, a 71-year-old Haitian, waved his hand defiantly and insisted he wasn't worried. “I believe that God will keep me safe,” he said. “But if I had big money, I would go stay in big house.”

His neighbors, Leon and Muryada Noel, who have a 4-year-old daughter, also are staying. “It's going to be OK,” Leon Noel said, cradling his daughter in his lap and pointing to a level near his ankle. “The water only come to here,” he said. “Nothing's going to happen.”

Federal Emergency Management Agency resources have been put into place to aid victims of the coming storm, and other resources were also on the way: The Navy has ordered the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, the amphibious assault ship Iwo Jima and the amphibious transport dock ship New York to join other Navy resources to deliver humanitarian relief if requested.

The ships can provide medical support, medium- and heavy-lift air support and other services including security, route clearance and water purification.


An aerial photo shows the damage of Hurricane Irma in Philipsburg, St. Maarten. — Photograph: Gerben Van Es/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images.
An aerial photo shows the damage of Hurricane Irma in Philipsburg, St. Maarten. — Photograph: Gerben Van Es/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images.

As Florida prepared for the worst, many islands in the Caribbean already have experienced it. The death toll is at least 20 and is expected to rise, with Category 4 Hurricane Jose advancing right behind Irma.

The Turks and Caicos Islands were dealing with Irma on Friday. The island of Barbuda was almost destroyed by the storm but remarkably had only one fatality.

Many Americans were left stranded on some of the islands that populate that area of the Caribbean. It may be days before actual damage in some of the smaller islands is known.

Puerto Rico was spared the worst part of the storm but still has more than 1 million people without power.

Another hurricane is also in the wings: Katia, which is expected to soon have winds topping 110 mph, could bring serious weather misery to Mexico when it makes landfall on Saturday. It is slowly moving to the area between Tampico and Veracruz in the Gulf of Mexico.

The area has been hard hit by rains recently and there is concern that flooding and landslides could be an inevitable result of the storm.

In the path of Jose, which is churning in the Atlantic with winds of 150 mph, a hurricane watch is in effect for the storm-ravaged islands of Antigua, Barbuda and Anguilla, St. Martin and St. Barts.

There is no danger that Jose will follow Irma to the United States, forecasters say, as it is expected to take a strong northerly turn after passing the islands and be a danger only to Bermuda and Atlantic shipping lanes.


L.A. Times staff writer W.J. Hennigan contributed to this story.

L.A. Times staff writer Halper and special correspondent Neuhaus reported from Miami. L.A. Times staff writer Cherwa reported from Orlando.

• John Cherwa is deputy Sports editor at the Los Angeles Times. He started at the L.A. Times in 1980 and left in 1995 to be sports editor of the Chicago Tribune and Tribune Company Sports Coordinator in 2002. He rejoined the Los Angeles Times in 2009. He specializes in Olympic sports and has been bureau chief for every Olympics since 2000. He is also an adjunct professor on the business of sports media at the University of Central Florida.

• Les Neuhaus is a freelance journalist who lives in the Tamp/St. Petersburg area in Florida. He writes articles for the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The New York Times, Agence France-Presse and other news organisations.

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-florida-irma-20170908-story.html
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« Reply #778 on: September 09, 2017, 10:39:25 am »


I guess you flat-earthers/anti-warmalists/climate-change-deniers can always take a leaf out of your hero Donald J. Trump's book and claim that photograph of Philipsburg, St. Maarten is FAKE NEWS, eh? Just to display your total & absolute heads-in-the-sand stupidity!!
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« Reply #779 on: September 09, 2017, 11:18:07 am »

Nah, rather than chase your little red herring, I'd suggest look at the opinions I posted of 50 ***IPCC*** CLIMATE EXPERTS I posted. Hello? 💩
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« Reply #780 on: September 09, 2017, 11:36:50 am »


Guess what?

To counter those 50 “fake scientists” and their desperate “fake news” there are tens of thousands of “real scientists” who have published a shitload of peer-reviewed scientific papers which tell the TRUTH instead of the snake-oil peddled by your “fake scientists” and their “fake news”.
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« Reply #781 on: September 09, 2017, 11:56:16 am »

..uhhhh..trying to grow mangos..need extra 2 degrees..$100 to the first person to tell me the best way to make it happen😜
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« Reply #782 on: September 09, 2017, 12:08:39 pm »

Except they aren't "fake scientists". Why do you blindly buy such dumb bullshit?
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« Reply #783 on: September 09, 2017, 12:23:43 pm »

Donald sit back and wait for the temperatures to naturally rise sufficiently  (if you are lucky)... in 100 years or so. If the sun cycle people have got things right, build yourself a greenhouse and a good source of heating (coal maybe 😁) because it's going to be cold for a few decades. Alternatively, stock up on dried mango from tropical countries 😀
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« Reply #784 on: September 09, 2017, 12:57:26 pm »

Buy yourself a big supply of coal for heating then build yourself one of these Donald...

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« Reply #785 on: September 09, 2017, 04:36:12 pm »

Yes, I use coal and native timber for heating...very cost effective😜
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« Reply #786 on: September 09, 2017, 10:36:18 pm »



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« Reply #787 on: September 09, 2017, 10:41:41 pm »

Yep that's right. Nothing to do with the hysterical climate change religion. Just business as usual hurricanes. Next?
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« Reply #788 on: September 09, 2017, 11:59:47 pm »



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« Reply #789 on: September 12, 2017, 12:49:28 am »


from the Los Angeles Times....

Climate deniers play politics with looming natural disasters

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Monday, September 11, 2017



WHEN the intensifying effect of climate change was brought into the news coverage of Hurricane Harvey, some conservatives objected. They said it was horrid that the “liberal media” was politicizing a disaster that had upended so many people's lives. Now, the same complaints will probably be raised in the wake of Hurricane Irma.

Well, the climate change issue definitely has been politicized, but most of that exploitation for political purposes has been done by the fossil fuel industries, their mouthpieces in the right-wing media and their minions among Republican elected officials.

The dreadful force of Irma has slammed into Florida and one would think everyone could agree on some basic science. Warmer ocean temperatures have a multiplying effect on hurricanes that increases their energy and size. At the same time, the destructive potential of hurricane-propelled storm surges is made greater by the rise in sea level. This warmer, higher water is the direct result of a global climate that is getting hotter, year after year.

No, climate change is not the cause of hurricanes — nor wildfires, nor tornadoes — but, as scientists have predicted for some time now, swift alterations in our climate are magnifying the force of these natural events. In other words, there are worse disasters to come. That is not politics, that is science.

Yet, climate change deniers from President Trump to Rush Limbaugh to Florida Governor Rick Scott choose to believe that climate science is some kind of evil plot concocted by the Chinese or by a cabal of nefarious researchers in lab coats who are trying to subvert capitalism, Christianity and Mom's apple pie. They choose to see things this way because propagandists backed by big corporations that profit immensely from maintaining the status quo have given them reasons to deny what is so apparent to leaders in every other country on the planet.

One of the reasons someone such as Scott chooses to think this way is that the special interests who bankroll his political career are pleased if he does. In Florida, the four biggest utilities — Duke Energy, Gulf Power, Florida Power & Light and Tampa Electric — have effectively blocked development of solar power in that sunny state by dumping millions of dollars into the campaigns of compliant politicians, including well over $1 million given to Scott.

Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Alex Jones and other opinionated entertainers on the right push the narrative that acting to mitigate the human causes of climate change by switching to alternative energy sources would bring the American economy crashing down. They conveniently ignore the fact that, while jobs in the withering coal industry are disappearing, employment in solar and wind enterprises is booming. Already, the number of people working in clean energy in California, alone, is as many as 10 times the total number of coal mining jobs nationwide.

The vast majority of the world's scientists are convinced that industrial activity and the emission of greenhouse gases are key drivers of the global temperature rise. Deniers contest that conclusion, but only the most extreme among them argue that climate change is not happening at all. While discounting the link to man-made sources of carbon pollution, even leading Republicans will acknowledge that seas are rising, the polar ice caps are melting, hurricanes are getting stronger and weather patterns are becoming more extreme. So, bickering over causality aside, is it not the duty of political leaders to take actions that will anticipate and mitigate future disasters?

The answer is an unqualified yes.

Nevertheless, even in Florida, where, in the not-too-distant future, beach communities will be inundated by the ocean, developers are allowed to continue building along doomed shorelines while the governor has ordered state officials and researchers not to use the terms global warming and climate change. And, in the nation's capital, the Trump administration is very busy killing an array of federal programs that either gather scientific data about the global warming phenomenon or make plans to deal with the looming problems that the climate shift will bring.

That is what it means to politicize an issue.


http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-looming-disasters-20170910-story.html
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« Reply #790 on: September 12, 2017, 04:49:25 am »

Ktj......"and don't forget climate change is a hoax"

...I wouldn't say that climate change is a hoax.....just propaganda😉
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« Reply #791 on: September 12, 2017, 10:27:07 am »

The climate changes, naturally. Huge storms happen, naturally. There is weak evidence of any significant human influence. This is based on models based based an eco religion. They are time and time again, wrong.
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« Reply #792 on: September 12, 2017, 10:34:33 am »

Didn't read the left wing sophistry article but the headline should read..
CLIMATE RELIGIONISTS PLAY POLITICS WITH BUSINESS AS USUAL WEATHER EVENTS.
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« Reply #799 on: September 12, 2017, 03:39:41 pm »


Yep....flat-earthers/anti-warmalists/climate-change-deniers are totally & absolutely “fucked-in-the-head” alright.
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