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« Reply #575 on: September 14, 2016, 12:06:30 pm »



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« Reply #578 on: September 15, 2016, 04:11:04 pm »


Feel free to continue making a dork of yourself with ignorant posts.
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« Reply #579 on: September 15, 2016, 09:24:35 pm »

same with you  Grin
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« Reply #580 on: October 01, 2016, 01:30:24 pm »


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« Reply #581 on: October 01, 2016, 03:56:30 pm »

climate change is a sick joke
weather cycles are not man made they have been happening for hundreds of millions of years
a cow fart tax or a carbon tax won't change anything,at the worst it will just give funding to the creeps
enslaving everyone on the planet "what a joke that will be.

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« Reply #583 on: October 03, 2016, 04:13:38 pm »

temperatures warmer than they should be hahahaha Grin

how many hundred million years has this clown been living on the planet
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Hurricane Matthew

Clouds cover the sky over the beach near the Daytona Beach Boardwalk and Pier ahead of Hurricane Matthew in Florida. — Photograph: Will Vragovic/Tampa Bay Times via Associated Press.
Clouds cover the sky over the beach near the Daytona Beach Boardwalk and Pier ahead of Hurricane Matthew in Florida.
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Hurricane Matthew is seen approaching the East Coast of the United States in this National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellite image. — Picture: NOAA/Reuters.
Hurricane Matthew is seen approaching the East Coast of the United States in this National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellite image.
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A man walks near the Cocoa Beach Pier as Hurricane Matthew approaches Cocoa Beach, Florida. The storm is expected to reach the area on Thursday afternoon, bringing heavy wind and widespread flooding. — Photograph: Mark Wilson/Getty Images.
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« Reply #585 on: October 07, 2016, 01:33:24 pm »


Time to get in the beer & popcorn and watch the show.


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A detailed breakdown of impacts facing Florida's east coast from Hurricane Matthew
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« Reply #586 on: October 07, 2016, 04:49:04 pm »

‘BLACK LIVES MATTER’ SUPPORTERS PLAN LOOTING SPREES AS HURRICANE MATTHEW HITS
"In white neighborhoods"...."I need a new TV & iPhone"



With Hurricane Matthew set to devastate the east coast, some people are preparing to callously exploit the mayhem by going on looting sprees.
The extreme weather event is hours away from launching a “potentially catastrophic” Category 5 siege on Florida’s east coast before stretching into Georgia and South Carolina, but some are more concerned about how they can hijack the chaos to commit criminal acts.
A quick Twitter search reveals dozens of messages posted by Americans living in or near the affected areas that brazenly talk about the opportunity for looting that the hurricane will provide.
“God Please let this hurricane hit us so I can do some looting,” tweeted one user.
“So we looting after the hurricane? I do need a new TV & iPhone and some clothes,” added another.
“Ready for hurricane Matthew to hit so I can start looting,” remarked another.
When asked if they would be looting, one Twitter user responded, “yep, but in white neighborhoods.”
An analysis of the Twitter accounts shows that many of them are sympathetic towards ‘Black Lives Matter’ – supporters of which have used BLM protests as an excuse to carry out mass looting in Ferguson, Baltimore and most recently Charlotte.
Some of the accounts also featured anti-Donald Trump posts as well tweets complaining about racism and “cultural appropriation”.
It goes without saying that these kind of tweets are an absolute disgrace – over a hundred people have already died in Haiti as a result of the hurricane – but they are par for the course when it comes to BLM supporters and leftists in general.

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from The Washington Post....

A comet smashing into ancient Earth may have
set off catastrophic global warming


By SARAH KAPLAN | 2:00PM EDT - Thursday, October 13, 2016



THE warming was almost instantaneous. In the blink of an eye, geologically speaking, thousands of gigatons of carbon were released into the atmosphere. The global temperature rose by as many as eight degrees Celsius. The oceans became more acidic. Sea levels surged upward. Hundreds of species went extinct.

Sound familiar? These events actually happened 55.6 million years ago, during a period of dramatic global warming called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM). Clues from the geologic record show how hot it was: Arctic sediment cores containing no evidence of ice; rock layers with unusual ratios of carbon isotopes; billions of tiny, shelled microorganisms that died. This catastrophic period in Earth's history is the best analog we have to the climate change that is happening today.

But there were no humans around burning fossil fuels in the year 55.6 million before present. Primates had only just evolved. So what could have caused atmospheric carbon and global temperatures to spike so dramatically?

In the journal Science on Thursday, researchers report the discovery of tiny, glass globules in rock core samples as far apart as New Jersey and Bermuda — which they believe may be evidence of an ancient, catastrophic comet impact that set off the period of global warming.

The glass spheres, called microtektites, are the remains of the molten rock that gets blown in the air when a massive object collides with the Earth. They contain “shocked” quartz that appears only in the wake of an impact. In 1980, the discovery of shocked quartz and tektite deposits in the Caribbean from 66 million years ago helped convince Nobel Prize-winning physicist Luis Alvarez that a massive asteroid may have been what killed the dinosaurs; a decade later, geophysicists discovered the Chicxulub crater off the coast of Mexico, where the impact occurred.

The newly described microtektites come from the part of the fossil record where carbon starts to spike — a layer known as the Paleocene-Eocene boundary.

Those glass impact sperules really point to that there may have in fact been an impact,” said Dennis Kent, who studies Earth magnetism at Rutgers and the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and is a co-author on the paper. “If so, the fact that it occurred just at the time of the PETM is either an amazing coincidence, or it says there may be some close correlation, there may be some causation involved.”

Kent has argued that a comet impact could have triggered the thermal maximum since 2003, when he reported on finding strange magnetic nanoparticles in sediment cores taken off the Atlantic coast. Comets carry large amounts of carbon-12, the isotope that became suddenly abundant during the PETM. Kent believes that an initial, instantaneous release of carbon from the impact could have set off a greenhouse effect that caused frozen methane in the seafloor to melt, releasing more carbon and starting a positive feedback cycle that made the planet hotter and hotter. The impact could also have triggered landslides in the north Atlantic that exposed the methane, and volcanic activity that was happening at the hotspot underneath what is now Iceland would have exacerbated the problem.

The microtektites are a “coup de grace,” Kent said, “which really points to an impact.”


Images of some of the microtektites discovered by Schaller and Fung. — Illustration: M.F. Schaller et al/Science.
Images of some of the microtektites discovered by Schaller and Fung. — Illustration: M.F. Schaller et al/Science.

They were discovered by Morgan Schaller, a geochemist at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and lead author of the paper, and doctoral student Megan Fung. Fung had been examining sediment cores from various spots around the Atlantic looking for fossils of foraminifera, a class of single-celled sea creatures that was one of the main victims of the PETM warming. Months had gone by with no success, so Schaller came over to see what was wrong.

“Morgan came down and kind of dumped the sample on a tray,” Fung recalled, “and in a couple of minutes found one of these sphereules.”

“And then we jumped up and down and got really excited,” Schaller interjected. They both laughed.

Other scientists are less convinced. Geology is a discipline that operates on immense time scales: It takes a while to irrevocably change the Earth, and even longer for that change to be recorded in the rock record. Even the most conservative explanations of the PETM describe a phenomenon that happened far faster than almost anything in Earth's history, so researchers are understandably skeptical of suggestions that it could have started in a day.

James Zachos, a paleo-oceanographer and PETM specialist at the University of California in Santa Cruz, noted that the abundance of microtektites Schaller and Fung found suggests a relatively small impact. A comet of that size wouldn't have contained nearly enough carbon to trigger the massive changes that characterized the PETM.

“These things happen on Earth every million years,” he said — the timing of the impact relative to the thermal maximum is probably just a coincidence.

Unlike Kent, who is convinced that the initial pulse of carbon was released very quickly, Zachos argues that it happened over the course of thousands of years. He thinks it's more likely that volcanic activity at the ocean floor heated up carbon in the crust and sent it pluming into the atmosphere.

If all this seems like an obscure debate about events that occurred millions of years ago, keep in mind that the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum is the only period in history that comes close to mirroring the climate change that Earth is experiencing today. If scientists want to understand what happens when a certain amount of carbon is added to the atmosphere, or when ocean temperature rise a specific number of degrees, the PETM can tell them.

“All the things you hear about when climatologists talk about what is happening now and will happen more so in the future, that is all based on theory, based on climate models,” Zachos said. “And yet we see exactly that happening 56 million years ago during the PETM, so that is an independent verification of theory.”

“I see that, and I know the models are correct,” he continued, “Because it happened before.”


• Sarah Kaplan is a reporter for Speaking of Science at The Washington Post.

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 • Ancient asteroid impact was even bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs, scientists say

 • What we're doing to the Earth has no parallel in 66 million years, scientists say

 • PHOTOGRAPH GALLERY: Fascinating photos of our solar system and beyond


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The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends

The Arctic is super-hot, even as a vast area of cold polar air has been displaced over Siberia.

By CHRIS MOONEY and JASON SAMENOW | Thursday, November 17, 2016

Ice floes in Baffin Bay above the Arctic Circle. — Photograph: Jonathan Hayward/Associated Press.
Ice floes in Baffin Bay above the Arctic Circle. — Photograph: Jonathan Hayward/Associated Press.

POLITICAL PEOPLE in the United States are watching the chaos in Washington in the moment. But some people in the science community are watching the chaos somewhere else — the Arctic.

It's polar night there now — the sun isn't rising in much of the Arctic. That's when the Arctic is supposed to get super-cold, when the sea ice that covers the vast Arctic Ocean is supposed to grow and thicken.

But in fall of 2016 — which has been a zany year for the region, with multiple records set for low levels of monthly sea ice — something is totally off. The Arctic is super-hot, even as a vast area of cold polar air has been displaced over Siberia.




At the same time, one of the key indicators of the state of the Arctic — the extent of sea ice covering the polar ocean — is at a record low. The ice is freezing up again, as it always does this time of year after reaching its September low, but it isn't doing so as rapidly as usual.

In fact, the ice's area is even lower than it was during the record-low 2012:




Twitter's expert Arctic watchers also are stunned. Zack Labe, a PhD student at the University of California at Irvine who studies the Arctic, tweeted out an image on Wednesday from the Danish Meteorological Institute showing Arctic temperatures about 20 degrees Celsius higher than normal above 80 degrees North Latitude.

“Today's latest #Arctic mean temperature continues to move the wrong direction … up. Quite an anomalous spike!,” Labe wrote. Here's the figure:




As you can see, temperatures north of 80 latitude were around -5 degrees Celsius — still below freezing, but not by that much — instead of the normal of around -25 degrees Celcius.

“Despite onset of #PolarNight, temperatures near #NorthPole increasing. Extraordinary situation right now in #Arctic, w/record low #seaice,” added Daniel Swain, a climate scientist at UCLA.

This is the second year in a row that temperatures near the North Pole have risen to freakishly warm levels. During 2015's final days, the temperature near the Pole spiked to the melting point thanks to a massive storm that pumped warm air into the region.

So what's going on here?

“It's about 20°C [36 degrees Fahrenheit] warmer than normal over most of the Arctic Ocean, along with cold anomalies of about the same magnitude over north-central Asia,” Jennifer Francis, an Arctic specialist at Rutgers University, said by email Wednesday.

“The Arctic warmth is the result of a combination of record-low sea-ice extent for this time of year, probably very thin ice, and plenty of warm/moist air from lower latitudes being driven northward by a very wavy jet stream.”

Francis has published research suggesting that the jet stream, which travels from west to east across the Northern Hemisphere in the mid-latitudes, is becoming more wavy and elongated as the Arctic warms faster than the equator does.

“It will be fascinating to see if the stratospheric polar vortex continues to be as weak as it is now, which favors a negative Arctic Oscillation and probably a cold mid/late winter to continue over central and eastern Asia and eastern North America. The extreme behavior of the Arctic in 2016 seems to be in no hurry to quit,” Francis continued.

Francis cited the work of Judah Cohen, a forecaster with Atmospheric and Environmental Research, who has linked odd jet stream behavior with cold air over Siberia.

Indeed, another Arctic expert, James Overland with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said that the jet stream at the moment is well configured to transport warmth northward into the Arctic. “There is strong warm advection into the Arctic, especially northern-central Canada, in through the Atlantic,  and east Siberian/Chukchi Sea,” Overland said.

The whole situation is pretty extreme, several experts agreed.

“Both the persistence and magnitude of these temperature anomalies are quite unusual,” Labe added by email. “Large variability in temperatures is common in the Arctic (especially during the cold season), but the duration of this warm Arctic — cold Siberia pattern is unusual and quite an impressive crysophere/sea ice feedback.” (The “cryosphere” refers to that part of the Earth’s system that is made up of ice.)

Abnormally warm air has flooded the Arctic since October. Richard James, a meteorologist who pens a blog on Alaska weather, analyzed 19 weather stations surrounding the Arctic Ocean and found that the average temperature was about 4 degrees (2 degrees Celsius) above the record set in 1998.

Since November, temperatures have risen even higher. “It is amazing to see that the warmth has become even more pronounced since the end of October,” James wrote on his blog.

Mark Serreze, who heads the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, agrees that something odd is going on. Not only are air temperatures unusually warm, but water temperatures are as well.  “There are some areas in the Arctic Ocean that are as much as 25 degrees Fahrenheit above average now,” Serreze said. “It's pretty crazy.”

What's happening, he explains, is sort of a “double whammy.” On the one hand, there is a “very warm underlying ocean” due to the lack of sea ice forming above it. But, at the same time, kinks in the jet stream have allowed warm air to flow northward and frigid Arctic air to descend over Siberia.

“The sea ice is at a record low right now, for this time of year, that’s one thing,” Serreze said. “And why it's so low — again, there's so much heat in the upper ocean in these ice-free areas, the ice just can't form right now. The ocean's just got to get rid of this heat somehow, and it's having a hard time doing so.”




The situation this winter could set the Arctic's ice up for very thin conditions and a possible record low next year, Serreze said, although it's too soon to say.

The weather in the Arctic can change swiftly. Temperatures could cool and the ice could rebound.

But the record-low sea ice extent and unprecedented warmth in the region fit in well with recent trends and portend even more profound changes in the coming years.




• Chris Mooney reports on science and the environment for The Washington Post.

• Jason is The Washington Post's weather editor and Capital Weather Gang's chief meteorologist. He earned a master's degree in atmospheric science, and spent 10 years as a climate change science analyst for the U.S. government. He holds the Digital Seal of Approval from the National Weather Association.

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Related stories:

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‘Things are getting weird in the polar regions’

Sea ice is at record low levels in the Arctic and Antarctic, simultaneously.

By CHRIS MOONEY | Monday, November 21, 2016

A collage of melting sea ice in the Kane Basin between Greenland and Canada's Ellesmere Island. — Photograph: Chris Mooney/The Washington Post.
A collage of melting sea ice in the Kane Basin between Greenland and Canada's Ellesmere Island.
 — Photograph: Chris Mooney/The Washington Post.


AS extraordinarily warm temperatures continue in the Arctic — temperatures tens of degrees Fahrenheit above normal for this time of year in some locations — Arctic sea ice, a key indicator of the overall state of this system, seems to be responding in kind.

It is kind of unbelievable: On November 19th, the extent of Arctic sea ice was nearly 1 million square kilometers lower (8.633 million versus 9.504 million) than it was on that date during the prior record low year of 2012, according to data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center. On November 20th, the gap widened further, with 8.625 million square kilometers in 2016 versus 9.632 million in 2012.

This is happening in a time of year when ice is supposed to be spreading across the polar ocean — yet instead, it is flat or even declining a little lately.




“I think that it’s fair to say that the very slow ice growth is a response to the extreme warmth (still ongoing as of today),” said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, by email on Sunday. “Over the past few days, extent has actually decreased in the Arctic, and while I don't think that such a short term decline is unprecedented for this time of year,  it is highly unusual, for November is a month when we normally see a quite rapid ice growth.”



It may be time for a refresher on why this matters and why it is so consistent with climate change research going back many decades. The fear (and it's not just a fear any longer, really) is that there is something called a “feedback” in the Arctic climate system.

As the climate warms, there should be less sea ice covering the Arctic ocean — and indeed, we've seen great declines. But as sea ice falls, the darker ocean should also absorb more energy from sunlight in the summer, energy that the lighter colored ice would have reflected away. This heat, contained in the ocean, would also prevent sea ice formation.

Recent trends in the Arctic seem heavily consistent with this idea.

And as if the Arctic data isn't enough, at the very same time, ice around Antarctica is also pushing surprising new lows:




Antarctic sea ice extent on November 19th also represented a record low for this time of year, based on the center's data. The dataset in question goes back to the year 1979.

“Why Antarctic extent is also very low right now is something we are still puzzling over,” said Serreze. “However, there's really no connection between the extreme mutual anomalies in the two hemispheres that we are aware of. We have to wait and see what happens. Having said this, things are getting weird in the polar regions.”

The Antarctic decline is particularly bewildering because just a few years ago, the debate was instead over why floating Antarctic sea ice was pushing record highs, not record lows — and why this was happening even as the continent's glaciers were losing considerable mass. Despite a major lack of clarity about what this phenomena meant, many climate change doubters seized on the Antarctic sea ice behavior as a key reason for pushing their contrary message. Now, that argument seems to be vanishing for them.

While scientists are still trying to understand all aspects of the Antarctic sea ice system, one intriguing study published earlier this year linked a recent sea ice expansion in the region to behavior in the tropical Pacific ocean. It focused specifically on a cycle in the climate system called the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation or IPO, that was also connected to a global warming “pause” or slowdown in the mid-2000s. However, that tropical Pacific pattern has since shifted — which may be contributing to sea ice losses around the Antarctic.

Gerald Meehl, the lead author of that study and a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, told me in an email in late October that a pattern of lower Antarctic sea ice is “what you'd expect in an El Nino, as well as transition to positive IPO, so trend for next 5-10 years should be negative, with year-to-year variations.” That comment came at a time when the Antarctic ice was low, but not yet at record low levels, as it is now.

We don't know all the causes of what's currently happening in either the Arctic or Antarctic. It's certainly possible that the lows we're seeing now are an extreme, perhaps tied to the aftermath of the powerful 2015-2016 El Nino, and conditions will soon push more back towards the range of what's normal as that event continues to fade. It's important to remember that the data presented above are a snapshot in time, and that can't substitute for a scientific analysis of trends.

But as we steer the planet into the unknown, the default position should probably be to expect surprises — surprises not unlike those that we're seeing today.




• Chris Mooney reports on science and the environment for The Washington Post.

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Trump adviser proposes dismantling NASA climate research

The proposal was swiftly condemned by Earth science leaders.

By JASON SAMENOW | Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Arctic sea ice minimum in 1980 versus 2012. — Photographs: NASA.
Arctic sea ice minimum in 1980 versus 2012. — Photographs: NASA.

AN adviser to Donald Trump says NASA should no longer conduct climate research, a proposal that has been swiftly condemned by leaders in the Earth science and climate communities.

Bob Walker, who advised the Trump campaign on space policy, told The Guardian that NASA should focus on space and leave the investigation of Earth to other parts of the government.

“We see NASA in an exploration role, in deep space research,” Walker said. “Earth-centric science is better placed at other agencies where it is their prime mission.”

Climate research has been “heavily politicized” and NASA doesn't need to conduct “politically correct environmental reporting,” Walker told The Guardian.

Walker is not alone in his point of view.

In 2015, the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, chaired by Representative Lamar Smith (Republican-Texas), introduced a spending bill that would have slashed NASA's Earth science program by more than $300 million.

At a hearing on NASA's budget that same year, Senator Ted Cruz (Republican-Texas) said “a disproportionate amount of federal funds” had been allocated to the Earth science program.

But just as NASA's Earth science program has its critics, it also has allies on both sides of the political spectrum.

Last fall, after efforts to cut NASA's Earth science budget had failed, 15 former military leaders wrote a letter to congressional leaders, urging them to protect funding for NASA Earth science as well as geoscience programs at the National Science Foundation.

Notably, the letter was signed by retired Vice Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher, a Republican and administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration under President George W. Bush.

“These programs are essential parts of a broader whole of government and whole of society effort to provide essential data about and better scientific understanding of global, regional and local Earth processes,” the letter said. “That essential data and better understanding of the underlying science are critical to many strategic planning, strategy, and investment decisions in both the private and public sectors, very much including national security.”

In the wake of news on Tuesday that the Trump administration may move to scrap NASA's climate research, leaders in the Earth science community immediately voiced objection.

“Not so fast,” said Nancy Colleton, president of the Institute for Global Environmental Strategies, a think tank that leads efforts in Earth and space science education. “The Trump Administration won't want to put the American people and certainly not American business at risk. That's what NASA science does — it helps us manage risk. It's a security issue on many levels — national, economic, water, and food.”

Marshall Shepherd, a former NASA atmospheric scientist, stressed NASA's Earth science work was built into its mission when the agency was established through the 1958 Space Act.

“This notion that NASA should just be outwardly focused in space is not consistent with NASA's mission,” said Shepherd, now a professor at the University of Georgia.

Shepherd, also past president of the American Meteorological Society, wrote an impassioned op-ed on the significance of NASA's Earth science last year, when the program's budget was threatened: Cutting NASA's earth science budget is shortsighted and a threat.

The Guardian quoted several climate scientists who blasted Walker's proposal, including Kevin Trenberth, a scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. Trenberth said eliminating Earth science at NASA would be “a major setback if not devastating.”

Still, a story in Scientific American suggested that Walker's proposal will not necessarily become Trump policy.

“Because he is not a member of the transition team now laying the groundwork for a Trump administration, Walker says he cannot speculate about what near-term space policy decisions the president-elect will soon make,” wrote Lee Billings, author of the Scientific American story.

Brian Kahn, a journalist at Climate Central, suggested advocates for NASA Earth science resist the urge to overreact. “Freaking out about NASA's climate budget right now is unproductive,” he tweeted. “We don't know what Trump will do.”


• Jason Samenow is The Washington Post's weather editor and Capital Weather Gang's chief meteorologist. He earned a master's degree in atmospheric science, and spent 10 years as a climate change science analyst for the U.S. government. He holds the Digital Seal of Approval from the National Weather Association.

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Related stories:

 • With Trump, Gingrich and GOP calling the shots, NASA may go back to the moon

 • Massive cuts proposed to NASA earth science budget draw protest


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« Reply #591 on: November 29, 2016, 05:26:27 pm »

More Fake News
about climate change scam for the frightened lemmings
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« Reply #593 on: December 12, 2016, 11:36:47 am »


Guess what?

Donald Trump is wavering on his line about Global Warming.

He has been tweeting about it.

Haw haw haw....yet another flip-flop from The Donald is coming up.

I'm going to piss myself with laughter watching your reaction when The Donald changes his tune.
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« Reply #594 on: December 12, 2016, 04:15:58 pm »

trump has already stated he has favorable views about conservation


the thing with obama i am sure he wanted to do a lot of things but he was not allowed thats a problem when you owe favors to your backers

trump didn't have establishment backers so he's not beholding to anyone that's why they might kill him or  stir up dissent say they want another election blaming russia for hillarys failure

dont worry i see trouble brewing the globalists can't stand the fact he will go of the reservation friending with russia to smash isis which they won't like because putin kicked out all the american funded shit stirring NGO's

it hard for trump not being a member of the elite club if he makes it in he will need the backing of the common people to get things done.

it's not about him making money he already has more than enough its about freeing the people from the elites yoke by working to create jobs so they can feed their kids and not end up living on the street like what the too big to fail bankers did to them..

george bush was a retarded idiot but he was in the club

i know you will find that hard to believe maybe your thinking all people are ratbags but you have issues
and maybe unresolved hurts,

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« Reply #595 on: December 12, 2016, 04:22:33 pm »

trump has already stated he has favorable views about conservation


....conservation and global warming are two different things....

And there is plenty of video footage around (including on YouTube) of Trump saying he will tear up the Paris agreement on climate change within 100 days of becoming the President of the USA.

Now, in more video footage (also on YouTube) of Trump being interviewed on Fox News yesterday, he is saying something completely different and being slippery.

Trump is taking you idiots who believed him for mugs. He was lying to you and you swallowed his bullshit hook, line & sinker. SUCKER!!
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« Reply #596 on: December 12, 2016, 04:36:32 pm »

 
you are a crazy conspiracy nutter who hates people with money that is unless they support the leftist cause

the globalist have messed up your mind is there any good reason why the elites funded communism
apart from controlling the masses and making money there's no other good reason is there

i think you want an unelected world gov telling you what you must do

screw that idea they have already made all the world's people slaves give them more power they will do much worse things

they will decide when its time for you to die it's called a purge
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from The Washington Post....

Scientists are frantically copying U.S. climate data,
fearing it might vanish under Trump


The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving event” in Toronto where experts will copy
irreplaceable public data, and meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused
on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks.


By BRADY DENNIS | 11:10PM EST - Tuesday, December 13, 2016

Photograph: A satellite image of Hurricane Otto approaching the coast of Central America on November 24th. — Picture: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
A satellite image of Hurricane Otto approaching the coast of Central America on November 24th.
 — Picture: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.


ALARMED that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference.

The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

“Something that seemed a little paranoid to me before all of a sudden seems potentially realistic, or at least something you'd want to hedge against,” said Nick Santos, an environmental researcher at the University of California at Davis, who over the weekend began copying government climate data onto a non-government server, where it will remain available to the public. “Doing this can only be a good thing. Hopefully they leave everything in place. But if not, we're planning for that.”

In recent weeks, President-elect Donald Trump has nominated a growing list of Cabinet members who have questioned the overwhelming scientific consensus around global warming. His transition team at the Department of Energy has asked agency officials for names of employees and contractors who have participated in international climate talks and worked on the scientific basis for Obama administration-era regulations of carbon emissions. One Trump adviser suggested that NASA no longer should conduct climate research and instead should focus on space exploration.

Those moves have stoked fears among the scientific community that Trump, who has called the notion of man-made climate change “a hoax” and vowed to reverse environmental policies put in place by President Obama, could try to alter or dismantle parts of the federal government's repository of data on everything from rising sea levels to the number of wildfires in the country.

Michael Halpern, deputy director of the Center for Science and Democracy at the advocacy group Union of Concerned Scientists, argued that Trump has appointed a “band of climate conspiracy theorists” to run transition efforts at various agencies, along with nominees to lead them who share similar views.

“They have been salivating at the possibility of dismantling federal climate research programs for years. It's not unreasonable to think they would want to take down the very data that they dispute,” Halpern said in an email. “There is a fine line between being paranoid and being prepared, and scientists are doing their best to be prepared…. Scientists are right to preserve data and archive websites before those who want to dismantle federal climate change research programs storm the castle.”

To be clear, neither Trump nor his transition team have said the new administration plans to manipulate or curtail publicly available data. The transition team did not respond to a request for comment. But some scientists aren't taking any chances.

“What are the most important .gov climate assets?” Eric Holthaus, a meteorologist and self-proclaimed “climate hawk,” tweeted from his Arizona home on Saturday evening. “Scientists: Do you have a US .gov climate database that you don't want to see disappear?”

Within hours, responses flooded in from around the country. Scientists added links to dozens of government databases to a Google spreadsheet. Investors offered to help fund efforts to copy and safeguard key climate data. Lawyers offered pro bono legal help. Database experts offered server space and help organizing mountains of data. In California, Santos began building an online repository to “make sure these data sets remain freely and broadly accessible.”

Climate data from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have been politically vulnerable. When Tom Karl, director of the National Centers for Environmental Information, and his colleagues published a study in 2015 seeking to challenge the idea that there had been a global warming “slowdown” or “pause” during the 2000s, they relied, in significant part, on updates to NOAA's ocean temperature data set, saying the data “do not support the notion of a global warming ‘hiatus’.”

In response, the U.S. House Science, Space and Technology Committee chair, Representative Lamar S. Smith (Republican-Texas), tried to subpoena the scientists and their records.

That effort launched by Holthaus is one of several underway to preserve key federal scientific data.

In Philadelphia, researchers at the University of Pennsylvania, along with members of groups such as Open Data Philly and the software company Azavea, have been meeting to figure out ways to harvest and store important data sets.

At the University of Toronto this weekend, researchers are holding what they call a “guerrilla archiving” event to catalogue key federal environmental data ahead of Trump's inauguration. The event “is focused on preserving information and data from the Environmental Protection Agency, which has programs and data at high risk of being removed from online public access or even deleted,” the organizers said. “This includes climate change, water, air, toxics programs.”

The event is part of a broader effort to help San Francisco-based Internet Archive with its End of Term 2016 project, an effort by university, government and nonprofit officials to find and archive valuable pages on federal websites. The project has existed through several presidential transitions.

At the American Geophysical Union's fall meeting in San Francisco, where more than 20,000 earth and climate scientists have swarmed the city's biggest conference center this week, an air of gallows humor marked many conversations. Some young scientists said their biggest personal concern is funding for their research, much of which relies on support from NASA and other agencies.

“You just don't know what's coming,” said Adam Campbell, who studies the imperiled Ross Ice Shelf of Antarctica.

But others also arrived at the meeting with a strengthened sense of resolve. Campbell was planning to join hundreds of other people at a rally Tuesday, organized in part by the activist group ClimateTruth.org, encouraging researchers to “stand up for science.” “People have felt a call to arms,” Campbell said. “We need to be outspoken.”

Lawyers with the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund — which provides legal assistance to researchers facing lawsuits over their work on climate change — will be holding one-on-one consultations with researchers who think they might need help from a lawyer. And the organization's table in the AGU exhibition hall is piled high with booklets titled “Handling Political Harassment and Legal Intimidation: A Pocket Guide for Scientists”.

“We literally thought about it the day after the election,” said Lauren Kurtz, the legal defense fund's executive director. “I have gotten a lot of calls from scientists who are really concerned…. So it's intended in some ways to be reassuring, to say, ‘There is a game plan; we're here to help you’.”

The 16-page guide contains advice for government researchers who believe their work is being suppressed, as well as how scientists should react if they receive hate mail or death threats.

Holthaus, who encouraged scientists to flag key databases, said the effort to safeguard them is mostly precautionary.

“I don't actually think that it will happen,” he said of efforts by an incoming administration to obscure or alter scientific data. “But I think it could happen…. All of these data sets are priceless, in the sense that if there is a gap, it greatly diminishes their usefulness.”

That's the main concern for Andrew Dessler, a professor of atmospheric sciences at Texas A&M University. He said he doubts that even the most hostile administration would try to do away with existing climate data, given the potential backlash.

“I think it's much more likely they'd try to end the collection of data, which would minimize its value. Having continuous data is crucial for understanding long-term trends,” Dessler said. “Trends are what climate change is about — understanding these long-term changes. Think about how much better off the people who don't want to do anything about climate change would be if all the long-term temperature trends didn't exist.”

He added, “If you can just get rid of the data, you're in a stronger position to argue we should do nothing about climate change.”


Chris Mooney in Washington and Sarah Kaplan in San Francisco contributed to this report.

• Brady Dennis is a national reporter for The Washington Post, focusing on the environment and public health issues.

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Read more on this topic:

 • VIDEO: What a Trump presidency means for climate change

 • Trump taps former Texas Governor Rick Perry to head Energy Department he once vowed to abolish

 • Energy Department rejects Trump's request to name climate change workers, who remain worried

 • Trump has picked the most conservative EPA leader since 1981. This one will face much less resistance.

 • The Arctic just had its warmest year on record ‘by far’, scientists report

 • Shrinking mountain glaciers are ‘categorical evidence’ of climate change, scientists say

 • Atmospheric levels of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, are spiking, scientists report

 • Trump says ‘nobody really knows’ if climate change is real

 • Trump transition team for Energy Department seeks names of employees involved in climate meetings

 • Trump names Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma attorney general suing EPA on climate change, to head the EPA

 • Al Gore just had ‘an extremely interesting conversation’ with Trump on climate change


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« Reply #598 on: December 21, 2016, 10:36:16 am »



OMG The lefties are Paranoid, panicking and starting to feel threatened by the thought crime of a normal thinking man that has common sense,

Oh no this is scary i think i might now have wow phobia,because Prez Trump might take away my funding and say climate change is a fear mongering scam for ripping off money from the poor masses and giving it to the wealthy,
and a lot of scientist might agree with him and steal our funding boohoo
 

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Paranoia occurs in many mental disorders



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« Reply #599 on: December 21, 2016, 04:19:03 pm »


Yeah, we KNOW you're too DUMB to understand the science.

It's just embarrassing for your family that you continue to display your intellectual disability.
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