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Most Distant Galaxy With Big Black Hole Discovered


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« on: September 10, 2009, 02:47:32 am »

Most Distant Galaxy With Big Black Hole Discovered
By Andrea Thompson
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posted: 04 September 2009
09:37 am ET
 
The most distant known galaxy to host a supermassive black hole has been discovered in a galaxy that formed in the early history of the universe.


The galaxy, as large as the Milky Way, is about 12.8 billion light-years away and harbors a supermassive black hole that contains at least a billion times as much matter as our sun. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old, and faraway objects like this are seen as they existed near the dawn of time, their light just now arriving at Earth.

read more at http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090904-most-distant-blackhole.html#comments
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 03:10:58 am »

Ug made the mistake of reading this now I can’t sleep -.- miss having doii around to ping ideas off!

few things from this and then from looking at some of the comments


1 Discounting the localised event suggestion put forward one of the strangest things in mapping events
is the apparent rapid expansion of the universe. now we have what appears to be a 'milky way' like galaxy aprox 13.7 billion light years away.
the 'problem' that people are indicating this presents is that apparently  by  'milky way like' theyre suggesting presence of heavy metals/ second and third generation stars orbiting this SMBH.
but wouldn’t that be perfectly plausible should the expansion phase been accelerated by chain super nova?   sudden expansion spreading plasma state matter outwards   centre condescends reaches a density so massive gravity overwhelms nuclear forces   resulting nova both accelerates the expansion and triggers rapid star formation until the level of expansion is that the chain breaks, leaving potential for mid level BHs to form SMBHs and plenty of potential for second and third etc stars to form from the mater that was either partially caught in the gravity fields, or was "behind" the nova    
  

2 how can they know its 13.7 billion light years away with doppler effects, 'gravity lensing, universe expansion etc curious to know how any sort of aging bench mark would hold up.
with existance of SMBH's it could even be that the light itself has been curving around all over the place like a ball bouncing around in a pin ball machine  with such huge gravity wells in play!

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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 04:32:57 am »

You will not ever have imagined what new science proven events will emerge now that the Chinese have entered into the race for the biggest idiot findings in space.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 02:43:35 pm »

if replicate experiments or observations can back up  the origional  does it matter who made the first  find ?
=)  i may not be able to  imagine it, thats one of the most  'fun things of scieence new things!
not the same old tierd stories from the same story books  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 07:15:30 am »

Stephen Hawking and I disagree with your superficial theories
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 01:09:22 pm »

=) evidence please, or  a link.   dunno about any one else but id be insulted to be associated with what you think.  so unless you can provide evidence, links or supporting data please contain you slop to your own corner. Im still waiting on proof of your  "devine cration claims"   its beginning to look like you cant justify them without resorting to your book of fairey tales
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 02:47:24 pm »

There is a little black hole in New Zealand's very own beehive.
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