Xtra News Community 2
June 18, 2019, 03:03:18 am
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Welcome to Xtra News Community 2 please also join our XNC2-BACKUP-GROUP.
 
  Home Help Arcade Gallery Links BITEBACK! XNC2-BACKUP-GROUP Staff List Login Register  

Study turns back clock on origins of life on Earth


Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Study turns back clock on origins of life on Earth  (Read 1720 times)
robman
Shit-Hot Member
*
Posts: 2197



« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2009, 06:51:29 pm »

I give up.
Report Spam   Logged

I once thought I was wrong but I was mistaken.
Sir Blodsnogger
Guest
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2009, 07:11:23 am »

 Wink

naaauw you dont give up. Can't see
Report Spam   Logged
pantherrr0
Moderator
Bloody-Good Member
*
Posts: 264


« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2009, 01:19:35 pm »

hmmm thinking about it there IS room for creationalism, "and god said 'let there be gullible fundy idiots'  and thus slow witted fools were born again into fundies"


mmm born again, doesnt pay to consider that term, must be a really really big woman some where *shudder*  no wonder they have mental issues


anyway  still waiting on evidence of your creation claims gommie. i havent seen any valid response from you yet.
its beginning to look like that storey book is your only reference. surely you can do better than that ?
i mean it seems to me youve based your whole life around this  creation by god nonsense. why ?
Report Spam   Logged
DazzaMc
Don't give me Karma!
Moderator
Absolutely Fabulously Incredibly Shit-Hot Member
*
Posts: 5553


« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2009, 06:05:09 pm »

Gommie is a waste of time...
Report Spam   Logged

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Sir Blodsnogger
Guest
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2009, 06:29:27 pm »

dazza even baboons know more than you. Cacoons that is Racoons, also know more than you you starved chicken giblet
Thats a point are you the result of evolution in reverse?
Report Spam   Logged
AnFaolchudubh
Incredibly Shit-Hot Member
*
Posts: 3828


Faugh a ballagh!


« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2009, 02:14:46 pm »

Gommie is a waste of time...

Yep he's not the sharpest knife in the draw thats for sure!
Report Spam   Logged

Stupid people are not an endangered species so why are we protecting them
R. S. OhAllmurain
DazzaMc
Don't give me Karma!
Moderator
Absolutely Fabulously Incredibly Shit-Hot Member
*
Posts: 5553


« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2009, 04:30:46 pm »

Blod old thing, there's a book I can recommend as giving a good overview of just how much science you can trust.
It's called A short history of nearly everything by Bill Bryson.



I'll even loan you a copy Gom...  and yes - it has pretty full color pictures in it just to keep you interested.
Report Spam   Logged

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Sir Blodsnogger
Guest
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2009, 12:06:09 pm »

Thank you for listening guys. Your answers have given me a sore head so i will take a rest from the ridiculous answers you  have tried out on me and read about creation and the future.
Thanks for your time.
Report Spam   Logged
Sir Blodsnogger
Guest
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2009, 03:03:07 pm »

I have researched Bill Brysonb and find that he is a malcontented plagiarist. As a consequence you are welcome to stick that edition you have of his book up your rectum.
Thank you
Report Spam   Logged
robman
Shit-Hot Member
*
Posts: 2197



« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2009, 06:48:44 pm »

I have researched the army of men who wrote the bible several thousand years ago and found that they were a bunch of scientifically ignorant drug addicts who suffered from psychotic delusions but were among the few people able to write at the time.
So you can stick your book up your (probably well used and travelled) arsehole you ignorant dummy.
Report Spam   Logged

I once thought I was wrong but I was mistaken.
Sir Blodsnogger
Guest
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2009, 06:16:53 am »

Ya silly bugger. The Bible was not written several thousand years ago robman. Now there you go I can not be so ignorant. I knew that fact and you did not.

Bible writers = Drug addicts ?? I dont think so  . There are many scientists who would be drug addicts dont you think?

BTW I have reconsidered and have to admit that I reacted to your offer of the book in a typical Dazza manner and therefor apologise for my rudeness.
I shall simply say thanks for the offer.
Report Spam   Logged
robman
Shit-Hot Member
*
Posts: 2197



« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2009, 12:09:13 pm »

I should have said 'over a period of time ranging from two to three thousand years ago apart from a few later inclusions written by a few deluded monks suffering from hallucinations brought on by fasting and no sex life'
Report Spam   Logged

I once thought I was wrong but I was mistaken.
Sir Blodsnogger
Guest
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2009, 02:24:45 am »

The following is an abbreviated answer for you

The Old Testament
The following books of the Bible are of unknown authorship:
    Genesis    Exodus    Leviticus    Numbers    Deuteronomy

These books are traditionally assumed to have been written by Moses, though his authorship is not claimed internally. Since Deuteronomy records the death of Moses, it seems unlikely that he wrote it; certainly he didn't write the part that describes his death. Though some scholars would claim a composite authorship for these books starting around 950 BC with them reaching their final form during the time of Ezra around 500 BC, I would take a more conservative position and argue for a unitary authorship within fifty years of the Exodus (which would date from either around 1290 BC or 1440 BC; that is another whole area of controversy), with much of the material coming from Moses himself (not excluding some obvious editorial activity over the years; notice, for example, Deuternomy 2:10-12).

Joshua  Traditionally, many have claimed Joshua as the author of the book. But considering that the book describes Joshua's death at the end, and includes in the middle (specifically Joshua 15:13-19; cf. Judges 1:1, 9-15) an incident the occured after Joshua's death, it seems impossible that Joshua is the author. On the other hand, the reference to "we" and "us" in Joshua 5:1 and 5:6 perhaps suggests an eyewitness to the events was the author of the book. The book would thus date to either the 15th or 13th century BC, depending, again, upon exactly when the Exodus from Egypt occured.

Judges (c. 10th century BC)
Ruth (c. 10th century BC)
1-2 Samuel (8th-6th century BC)
1-2 Kings (6th-5th century BC)
1-2 Chronicles (400 BC would be the earliest possible date for composition)
Esther (5th century BC)
Job (c. 10th century BC at the earliest)
Lamentations    Traditionally the book has been ascribed to Jeremiah the prophet. There is, however, no statement in the book itself suggesting who the author might be, other than that he (or she) is obviously an eyewitness to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians (c. 586 BC).

Books with known authorship (either in part or in whole)

Psalms   A conglomerate written by many people. The authorship of individual psalms, as attributed by their titles, breaks down as follows (of the 150 psalms, 116 are provided with a title):

Moses - Psalm 90
Heman the Ezrahite - Psalm 88
Ethan the Ezrahite - Psalm 89
Solomon - Psalm 72, 127
David (73 times) - Psalms 3-9, 11-32, 34-41, 51-65, 68-70, 86, 103, 108-110, 122, 124, 131, 133, 138-145
Asaph (12 times) - Psalms 50, 73-83
Sons of Korah (9 times) Psalm 42, 44-45, 47-49, 84-85, 87
Author unknown - (49 times) the remainder

The Septuagint (an early Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible from around 200 BC) gives some additional authorship identification, as follows:
Jeremiah - Psalm 137
Haggai and Zechariah - Psalms 146-147
Ezra - Psalm 119
Hezekiah (15 times) Psalms 120-134

Though the titles prefaced to the Psalms clearly date back before 200 BC (since they appear in the Septuagint, along with the extras that translation gives), how authoratative they are is subject to  debate.

The psalms, based on the authorship attributions, would then date between the 15th century (or 13th, depending on the time of the Exodus) and the 5th century, by which time the book probably took the form it currently has.

Proverbs  Again, the book is a composite, so far as authorship is concerned.
1:1-24:22 is attributed to Solomon (thus dating to the 900's BC)
24:23-34 are attributed to "the wise"
25:1-29:27 are attributed to Solomon, but were collected and recorded by "Hezekiah's men".
30:1-33 is attributed to Agur
31:1-31 is attributed to Lemuel

Ecclesiastes  The book is attributed to Solomon by some. If that is the case, the book dates to the 900's BC. Others would argue for an unknown author, and put the date of composition around 390 BC.

Ezra-Nehemiah   They are treated as a single book in the Talmud, Josephus, and the Canon of Melito (AD 171). They are also treated as a single book in the Masoretic Text (traditional Hebrew Bible).

The author of the book of Ezra-Nehemiah is unknown, though Ezra 7-9 apparently were written by Ezra, since they are in the first person. The account in chapters 1-6 is compiled from records, including decrees (1:2-4; 6:3-12), genealogies and name lists (2), and letters (4:7-22; 5:6-17). There are two sections that have been preserve in Aramaic (4:8-6:18 and 7:12-26). Aramaic was the diplomatic language during this period. Sources for the section labled "Nehemiah" in our text include what appear to be memoirs of Nehemiah, written in the first person: Nehemiah 1:1-7:73a; 11:1-2; 12:31-43: 13:4-31.

The date of the final composition of the book is generally accepted as being sometime during the 4th century BC.

Song of Songs  The book is attributed to Solomon, which would place its date of composition in the 900's BC.
Isaiah  It is attributed to Isaiah; it consists several oracles given by him over several years (740-690 BC). Its final form as we have it (assuming a single, unitary authorship to the book) would thus be sometime during the 7th century BC.
Jeremiah  It is attributed to Jeremiah, who lived from about 627 to 580 BC.
Ezekiel  It is attributed to Ezekiel, who was born around 622 BC. Based on internal dating, the book covers the time from about 593 through about 570 BC.
Daniel  It is attributed to Daniel, and thus would have been written sometime between 605 BC and about 530 BC.
Hosea  Attributed to Hosea. His prophesies cover the period from 753-715 BC.
Joel  Attributed to Joel. The date of the book is uncertain, with dates ranging from the early pre-exilic (800's BC) to late post-exilic period (500-400 BC).
Amos  Attributed to Amos. Dates between 767 and 753 BC.
Obadiah Attributed to Obadiah. Dates between 847 and 841 BC.
Jonah  Attributed to Jonah. Dates to the 700's BC.
Micah  Attributed to Micah. Dates between 740 and 695 BC.

Nahum  Attributed to Nahum. Two different dates are generally accepted as possibilities for Nahum's ministry: 661-612 BC or 722-701 BC.
Habakkuk  Attributed to Habakkuk. Dates to sometime between 612 and 587 BC.
Zephaniah  Attributed to Zephaniah. Dates sometime during the reign of Josiah (640-609 BC)
Haggai  Attributed to Haggai. It is possible to date his prophesies very exactly (since he gave us the precise day he uttered his prophesies):
1:1 August 29, 520 BC
1:15 September 21, 520 BC
2:19-20 December 18, 520 BC

Zechariah  Chapters 1-8 are attributed to Zechariah and can be dated precisely.
1:1 October, 520 BC
1:7 February 15, 519 BC
7:1 December 7, 518 BC
Chapters 9-14 were not written by Zechariah and cannot be easily dated. That they were not written by Zechariah is clear from both internal and external evidence.

9-11 were written by Jeremiah, according to Matthew 27:9-10, which quotes Zecharaiah 11:12-13 and attributes it to Jeremiah. The date would then be sometime between 627 and 580 BC

Chapters 12-14 are titled "an oracle" and are attributed to no one.

Malachi  Based on Mark 1:2-3, the book called "Malachi" was apparently actually written by Isaiah, since there the author of Mark quotes from "Malachi" but attributes it to Isaiah. The title "Malachi", taken from 1:1 is simply the Hebrew phrase "my messenger", and the word is so translated in 3:1.
The date of the book would then be sometime between 740 and 690 BC.

New Testament

Matthew  Attributed to Matthew. Probably written sometime between AD 55 and 75.
Mark  Attributed to John Mark. Probably written before AD 70, and before the books of Matthew or Luke were composed.
Luke Attributed to Luke. Since the book of Acts (also attributed to Luke) was written afterward, and since Acts was apparently written before Paul's execution during the reign of Nero, the book of Luke is apparently relatively early, perhaps before AD 60.
John Attributed to John. Probably composed between AD 85 and 90, though some scholars have suggested dates as early as AD 45 and as late as AD 110.
Acts   Attributed to Luke. Probably composed around AD 64 (Paul's imprisonment in Rome was from AD 61-63).

Romans  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 56 or 57.
1 Corinthians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 55.
2 Corinthians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 56.
Galatians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 52
Ephesians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 63.
Philippians  Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 59 and AD 61.
Colossians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 62.
1 Thessalonians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 50.
2 Thessalonians  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 50.
1 Timothy  Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 62 and AD 67.
2 Timothy Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 62 and AD 67.
Titus  Attributed to Paul. Written AD 63.
Philemon  Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 56 and AD 62.

Hebrews  Traditionally Paul has been given credit for the book, though there is nothing in the book to suggest that he is the author; and from the standpoint of the style and structure of the book Pauline authorship is so unlikely as to be excluded as even reasonably possible. Written between AD 66 and AD 70 (certainly written before the destruction of Jerusalem AD 70).

James  Attributed to James. Written between AD 45 and AD 50.
1 Peter  Attributed to Peter. Written between AD 62 and AD 64.
2 Peter Attributed to Peter. Written between AD 64 and AD 68.
1 John Attributed to John. Written between AD 85 and AD 90.
2 John Attributed to John. Written AD 90.
3 John Attributed to John. Written AD 90.
Jude Attributed to Jude. Written between AD 60 and AD 65.
Revelation  Attributed to John. Written between AD 54 and AD 68 or between AD 81 and AD 96.
Report Spam   Logged

Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Open XNC2 Smileys
Bookmark this site! | Upgrade This Forum
SMF For Free - Create your own Forum

Buy traffic for your forum/website
Powered by SMF | SMF © 2016, Simple Machines
Privacy Policy
Page created in 0.094 seconds with 15 queries.