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Burger King not allowed to pan students wearing school uniform

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« on: January 31, 2009, 05:34:32 pm »

Burger King backs down over ban

Two Christchurch mothers are fighting for their sons' rights to eat burgers, and the Human Rights Commission has been called in.


Fiona, who did not want her surname printed, phoned the commission for advice when the Burger King outlet in Shirley banned students wearing school uniforms from dining there.

"What if they turned around and said, `We're finding only the Maori walking in here are causing trouble; we're banning all Maori'," she said.

The ban was reversed yesterday after only one day by Burger King's national office.

Fiona said the ban came to light when her friend's son was turned away on Wednesday afternoon.

"I rang them up today thinking that can't be right, and they said they're not serving any secondary school children in school uniform," she said yesterday.

The manager told her they were able to enforce the ban.

"I rang the Human Rights Commission and they said that it is against the law it's unlawful discrimination against age," Fiona said.

"They said to me: `Do you want to lay a formal complaint? We'll take it further because they are breaking the law'."

She did not want to take it that far. "I just think they should look at other alternatives."

A commission spokeswoman said that if Fiona had asked it to make a complaint, she would have been passed it on to a mediator.

"The mediator will either proceed with the complaint or assist the caller in identifying a more appropriate course of action," the spokeswoman said.

Burger King spokeswoman Rachael Allison said that when the Shirley outlet asked to impose the ban, it was told by head office it could not.

The policy was prompted by the persistent misbehaviour of up to 60 youths.

"Some of them obviously not all of them are throwing drinks and standing on furniture and lots of shouting. There have been some instances of verbal abuse of staff, including racial abuse," Allison said.

Shirley Boys' High School principal John Laurenson said he was "totally comfortable" with the ban.

"We're on at them all the time and there are other fast-food chains that are up there as well, including KFC, and I wish they'd do the same thing," Laurenson said.

"We have to monitor the type of food that they eat and it's particularly difficult when the incentive of very cheap fast food with lots of Coke and all of the other things with it is being dangled probably 200 metres up the road."

Shirley Boys' High students at Burger King said yesterday they disagreed with the ban.

Andrew Treleaven, 14, said he went to Burger King every day while he waited for the bus.

"I was going to buy a meal and they turned me down," he said.

Some students had caused trouble.

"They jump up and down and chuck Coke and stuff," Andrew said.

Students from other schools abused staff, he said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4833169a6530.html


A Cafe owner is allowed to prevent Israelis from eating in their establishment but it is called discrimination when a BK manager prevents those in school uniforms from entering his establishment due to the mess they create. A bit hypocritical if you ask me.


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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 05:47:08 pm »

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A Cafe owner is allowed to prevent Israelis from eating in their establishment but it is called discrimination when a BK manager prevents those in school uniforms from entering his establishment due to the mess they create. A bit hypocritical if you ask me.
Do you have a reference/instance to back that statement up?
I am sure that is illegal discrimination in New Zealand. In an Arab state possibly legal but not NZ as is Discrimination on basis of race and possibly religion.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 08:35:17 am »

http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3657217,00.html

Also if I was the parent, I would probably concern myself more with preventing the crap my child was eating rather than their so called rights to frequent an establisment.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 09:09:47 am »

Thanks for that.
Glad the locals supported the victims.
Bet that turk and his supportive patrons, If any left, are being watched by infernal affairs.
A complaint should be raised or every towelhead in the country will think they can get away with the type of crap that goes on in their homelands.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 09:16:52 am »

I think there is an ongoing investigation from the consumer affairs right now but it just seemed ironic to me that the incident at BK was swooped upon but the cafe issue is taking longer. I would have thought the cafe issue is a little bit more black and white.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 09:25:28 am »

Shirley? where the hell is that....and who cares if its got a crap name like SHirley!!
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 01:17:36 pm »

It seems to me the issue at BK is that students, in uniform, a creating problems. What BK should have done is issue trespass orders against the trouble makers. instead they have taken the easy option of banning any kids in uniform. That is the issue. I too would kick up a stink if I was banned because of the clothes I wore.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 05:07:25 am »

The principal is complaining about having to watch what the kids eat while there are several takeaway joints in Shirley.  Maybe the principal could be proactive and invoke a ban on kids leaving the school grounds at lunchtime just like some other schools.  That is what the college that my kids go to do...a teacher patrols the exits and checks to see whether students are Year 13 or have a signed note from parents.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 05:58:46 am »

Im sorry - why are we talking about patrolling the fencelines??

Why are we looking to ban kids from leaving the school grounds??

This situation has nothing to do with keeping kids in the school grounds - nor has it anything to do with kids eating the right or wrong foods.

Its about the little bastards being ignorant, aggressive and non-caring about others property.
Its about the little bastards not being responsible for their actions.

Its about time the offenders were named and shamed, theres no need to keep the whole school in when the trouble is caused by few - in fact - it is illegal to do so.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 09:09:04 am »

And what the hell is panning students???
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 09:13:12 am »

And what the hell is panning students???

It's Banning without the bottom )
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 10:56:47 am »

It is a typo on my behalf. I accidently hit the P instead of B and in my haste to submit I didn't conduct a thorough check of grammer and spelling. So please read 'Ban' where you see 'Pan.'
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 11:25:07 am »

Hi Crusader!
It's kinda nice to see you post on a board without benders stuck to your ass saying silly shit. Did he ever give you your ten dollars?

I opened this because i didn't know what pan meant.


I think BK is silly to ban school uniforms. I agree with kicking the trouble makers out no matter what they are wearing. Most kids i know just wear jeans and tee shirts are they willing to serve them if they ain't in uniform?
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 11:28:12 am »

Ares....our Crusader is a totally different person to the Crusader who posts on the Aussie groups.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 11:36:50 am »

ooops

Thanks again KTJ


Sorry Crusader for getting you mixed up with the aussie poster.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 12:38:40 pm »

Its about the little bastards being ignorant, aggressive and non-caring about others property.
Its about the little bastards not being responsible for their actions.


I totally agree lovelee.  I was just pointing out that since the schools are responsible for students between school hours including lunchtime then there are options for them to stop this behaviour happening.  However, in saying that, any options are not going to stop these little bastards from being destructive.  They have no respect for others or their property and no regard of consequences for actions.

I wonder how much of todays problem teenagers and younger kids can be blamed on govt giving more rights to the child at the cost of parental authority and parental rights.
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I wonder how much of todays problem teenagers and younger kids can be blamed on govt giving more rights to the child at the cost of parental authority and parental rights.

Granted - however its up to the parent to parent, they also choose to let go of their parental authority.
For instance the ability to smack a child wouldnt stop this happening.

This is about socialising the child - teaching it to have respect for others and their property.
Something that isnt that hard to do and something that hasnt been 'curtailed' by govt taking away rights either.
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2009, 12:51:58 pm »

Very true lovelee.  Alot of parents don't even have respect for others and won't take responsibility for their own actions thus causing a domino effect down thru their kids and possibly future grandchildren.  We are a society of laying the blame on anything and everything apart from themselves.  I know I used to do the same but now take a good look at what is likely to happen before I act.
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 01:19:45 pm »

A judge in the Brisbane Juvenielle Court wrote this following open letter to teenagers. It is posted all around here in Blenheim. Maybe this should be distributed in CHCH.

The following is part of a letter to teenagers from a judge in the Brisbane Juvenile Court.
Always we hear the cry from teenagers. What can we do? Where can we go? My answer is: Go home. Mow the lawns — wash the windows, learn to cook, build a raft, get a job, visit the sick, study your lessons and after you have finished, read a book!

Your town does not owe you recreation facilities, your parents do not owe you fun. The world does not owe you a living. You owe the world something. You owe it your time, energy and talents so that no-one will be at war, in poverty or sick and lonely again.

In other words, grow up, stop being a cry baby, get out of your dreamworld and develop a backbone, not a wishbone. Start behaving like a responsible person.

You are important and you are needed. It is too late to sit around and wait for somebody to do something some day. Some day is now and that somebody is you!
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2009, 01:24:19 pm »

Thats perfect!!!


I had this sign on my fridge for the kids

HIRE A TEENAGER WHILE THEY STILL KNOW EVERYTHING
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 01:28:57 pm »

Wow Crusader....that is excellent.  Think I will print that out for my crew to read.
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