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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2019, 12:33:30 pm »


You are obviously living in the same la-la land as Donald J. Trump.

'cause even with Barr's attempts to hide all the incriminating stuff from Mueller's report, it is still full of incriminating stuff about the criminal mafia boss Donald J. Trump and his crime family's attempts to use Russia to illegally win an election as well as his attempts to pervert the course of justice and obstruct justice.

And now the Democrat-controlled congress has subpoena Robert S. Mueller III to put him under oath and question him about all the incriminating stuff in his report which Trump's lackey Barr has blacked out in a desperate attempt to hide the truth.

The truth WILL come out, whether Trump or you like it or not.


yes the truth will come out that Hillary's mob colluded with the Russians to create a fake hoax about trump
so they could spy on him
and the special counsel of corrupt lawyers were all lying Hillary supporters that couldn't prosecute and convict a ham sandwich.







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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2019, 07:12:26 pm »

Truth Is Like Garlic To Vampires
time to drag them kicking and screaming into the light of day


Autopsy of a Dead Coup

By Victor Davis Hanson| February 17th, 2019



The illegal effort to destroy the 2016 Trump campaign by Hillary Clinton campaign’s use of funds to create, disseminate among court media, and then salt among high Obama administration officials, a fabricated, opposition smear dossier failed.

So has the second special prosecutor phase of the coup to abort the Trump presidency failed. There are many elements to what in time likely will become recognized as the greatest scandal in American political history, marking the first occasion in which U.S. government bureaucrats sought to overturn an election and to remove a sitting U.S. president.

Preparing the Battlefield
No palace coup can take place without the perception of popular anger at a president.

The deep state is by nature cowardly. It does not move unless it feels it can disguise its subterranean efforts or that, if revealed, those efforts will be seen as popular and necessary—as expressed in tell-all book titles such as fired FBI Directors James Comey’s Higher Loyalty or in disgraced Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe’s psychodramatic The Threat.
In candidate and President Trump’s case that prepping of the battlefield translated into a coordinated effort among the media, political progressives and celebrities to so demonize Trump that his imminent removal likely would appear a relief to the people. Anything was justified that led to that end.

All through the 2016 campaign and during the first two years of the Trump presidency the media’s treatment, according to liberal adjudicators of press coverage, ran about 90 percent negative toward Trump—a landmark bias that continues today.

Journalists themselves consulted with the Clinton campaign to coordinate attacks. From the Wikileaks trove, journalistic grandees such as John Harwood, Mark Leibovich, Dana Milbank, and Glenn Thrush often communicated (and even post factum were unapologetic about doing so) with John Podesta’s staff to construct various anti-Trump themes and have the Clinton campaign review or even audit them in advance.

Some contract “journalists” apparently were paid directly by Fusion GPS—created by former reporters Glen Simpson of the Wall Street Journal and Susan Schmidt of the Washington Post—to spread lurid stories from the dossier. Others more refined like Christiane Amanpour and James Rutenberg had argued for a new journalistic ethos that partisan coverage was certainly justified in the age of Trump, given his assumed existential threat to The Truth. Or as Rutenberg put it in 2016: “If you view a Trump presidency as something that’s potentially dangerous, then your reporting is going to reflect that. You would move closer than you’ve ever been to being oppositional. That’s uncomfortable and uncharted territory for every mainstream, non-opinion journalist I’ve ever known, and by normal standards, untenable. But the question that everyone is grappling with is: Do normal standards apply? And if they don’t, what should take their place?”

I suppose Rutenberg never considered that half the country might have considered the Hillary Clinton presidency “potentially dangerous,” and yet did not expect the evening news, in 90 percent of its coverage, to reflect such suspicions.

The Democratic National Committee’s appendages often helped to massage CNN news coverage—such as Donna Brazile’s primary debate tip-off to the Clinton campaign or CNN’s consultation with the DNC about forming talking points for a scheduled Trump interview.

So-called “bombshell,” “watershed,” “turning-point,” and “walls closing in” fake news aired in 24-hour news bulletin cycles. The media went from fabrications about Trump’s supposed removal of the bust of Martin Luther King, Jr. from the Oval Office, to the mythologies in the Steele dossier, to lies about the Trump Tower meeting, to assurances that Michael Cohen would testify to Trump’s suborning perjury, and on and on.

CNN soon proved that it is no longer a news organization at all—as reporters like Gloria Borger, Chris Cuomo, Eric Lichtblau, Manu Raju, Brian Rokus, Jake Tapper, Jeff Zeleny, and teams such as Jim Sciutto, Carl Bernstein, and Marshall Cohen as well as Thomas Frank, and Lex Harris all trafficked in false rumors and unproven gossip detrimental to Trump, while hosts and guest hosts such as Reza Aslan, the late Anthony Bourdain, and Anderson Cooper stooped to obscenity and grossness to attack Trump.

Both politicos and celebrities tried to drive Trump’s numbers down to facilitate some sort of popular ratification for his removal. Hollywood and the coastal corridor punditry exhausted public expressions of assassinating or injuring the president, as the likes of Jim Carrey, Johnny Depp, Robert de Niro, Peter Fonda, Kathy Griffin, Madonna, Snoop Dogg, and a host of others vied rhetorically to slice apart, shoot, beat up, cage, behead, and blow up the president.

Left wing social media and mainstream journalism spread sensational lies about supposed maniacal Trump supporters in MAGA hats. They constructed fantasies that veritable white racists were now liberated to run amuck insulting and beating up people of color as they taunted the poor and victimized minorities with vicious Trump sloganeering—even as the Covington farce and now the even more embarrassing Jussie Smollett charade evaporated without apologies from the media and progressive merchants of such hate.

At the same time, liberal attorneys, foundations, Democratic politicians, and progressive activists variously sued to overturn the election on false charges of rigged voting machines. They sought to subvert the Electoral College. They introduced articles of impeachment. They sued to remove Trump under the Emoluments Clause. They attempted to invoke the 25th Amendment. And they even resurrected the ossified Logan Act—before focusing on the appointment of a special counsel to discredit the Trump presidency. Waiting for the 2020 election was seen as too quaint.

Weaponizing the Deep State
During the 2016 election, the Obama Department of Justice warped the Clinton email scandal investigation, from Bill Clinton’s secret meeting on an airport tarmac with Attorney General Loretta Lynch, to unethical immunity given to the unveracious Clinton aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, to James Comey’s convoluted predetermined treatment of “likely winner” Clinton, and to DOJ’s Bruce Ohr’s flagrant conflict of interests in relation to Fusion GPS.

About a dozen FBI and DOJ grandees have now resigned, retired, been fired, or reassigned for unethical and likely illegal behavior—and yet have not faced criminal indictments. The reputation of the FBI as venerable agency is all but wrecked. Its administrators variously have libeled the Trump voters, expressed hatred for Trump, talked of “insurance policies” in ending the Trump candidacy, and inserted informants into the Trump campaign.

The former Obama directors of the CIA and National Intelligence, with security clearances intact, hit the television airways as paid “consultants” and almost daily accused the sitting president of Russian collusion and treason—without cross-examination or notice that both previously had lied under oath to Congress (and did so without subsequent legal exposure), and both were likely knee-deep in the dissemination of the Steele dossier among Obama administration officials.

John Brennan’s CIA likely helped to spread the Fusion GPS dossier among elected and administrative state officials. Some in the NSC in massive and unprecedented fashion requested the unmasking of surveilled names of Trump subordinates, and then illegally leaked them to the press.

The FISA courts, fairly or not, are now mostly discredited, given they either were willingly or naively hoodwinked by FBI and DOJ officials who submitted as chief evidence for surveillance on American citizens, an unverified dossier—without disclosure that the bought campaign hit-piece was paid for by Hillary Clinton, authored by a discredited has-been British agent, relied on murky purchased Russian sources, and used in circular fashion to seed news accounts of supposed Trump misbehavior.

The Mueller Investigation
The Crown Jewel in the coup was the appointment of special counsel Robert Muller to discover supposed 2016 Trump-Russian election collusion. Never has any special investigation been so ill-starred from its conception.

Mueller’s appointment was a result of his own friend James Comey’s bitter stunt of releasing secret, confidential and even classified memos of presidential conversations. Acting DOJ Attorney Rod Rosenstein appointed a former colleague Mueller—although as a veteran himself of the Clinton email scandal investigations and the FISA fraudulent writ requests, Rosenstein was far more conflicted than was the recused Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Mueller then packed his investigative team with lots of Clinton donors and partisans, some of whom had legally represented Clinton subordinates and even the Clinton Foundation or voiced support for anti-Trump movements.

Mueller himself and Andrew Weissmann have had a long record of investigatory and prosecutorial overreach that had on occasion resulted in government liability and court mandated federal restitution. In such polarized times, neither should have involved in such an investigation. Two subordinate FBI investigators were caught earlier on conducting an affair over their FBI-issued cell phones, and during the election cycle they slurred the object of their subsequent investigation, ridiculed Trump voters, and bragged that Trump would never be elected. Mueller later staggered, and then hid for weeks the reasons for, their respective firings.

The team soon discovered there was no Trump-Russian 2016 election collusion—and yet went ahead to leverage Trump campaign subordinates on process crimes in hopes of finding some culpability in Trump’s past 50-year business, legal, and tax records. The point was not to find who colluded with whom (if it had been, then Hillary Clinton would be now indicted for illegally hiring with campaign funds a foreign national to buy foreign fabrications to discredit her opponent), but to find the proper mechanism to destroy the presumed guilty Donald Trump.

The Mueller probe has now failed in that gambit of proving “collusion” (as even progressive investigative reporters and some FBI investigators had predicted), but succeeded brilliantly in two ways.

The “counterintelligence” investigation subverted two years of the Trump presidency by constant leaks that Trump soon would be indicted, jailed, disgraced, or impeached. As a result, Trump’s stellar economic and foreign policy record would never earn fifty percent of public support.

Second, Mueller’s preemptive attacks offered an effective offensive defense for the likely felonious behavior of John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Peter Strzok, and a host of others. While the Mueller lawyers threatened to destroy the lives of bit players like Jerome Corsi, George Papadopoulos, and Roger Stone, they de facto provided exemption to a host of the Washington hierarchy who had lied under oath, obstructed justice, illegally leaked to the press, unmasked and leaked names of surveilled Americans, and misled federal courts under the guise of a “higher loyalty” to the cause of destroying Donald J. Trump.

The Palace Coup
All of the above came to a head with the firing of the chronic leaker FBI Director James Comey (who would lie to the president about his not being a target of an FBI investigation, lie to House investigatory committees by pleading amnesia and ignorance on 245 occasions, and repeatedly lie to his own FBI bureaucrats).

In May 2017, acting FBI director Andrew McCabe took over from the fired Comey. His candidate wife recently had been a recipient of huge Clinton-related campaign PAC donations shortly before he began investigating the Clinton email scandal. McCabe would soon be cited by the Inspector General for lying to federal investigators on numerous occasions—cynically stooping even to lie to his own New York FBI subordinates to invest scarce resources to hunt for their own nonexistent leaks as a mechanism for disguising his own quite real and illegal leaking.

The newly promoted McCabe apparently felt that it was his moment to become famous for taking out a now President Trump. Thus, he assembled a FBI and DOJ cadre to open a counterintelligence investigation of the sitting president on no other grounds but the fumes of an evaporating Clinton opposition dossier and perceived anger among the FBI that their director had just been fired. In addition, apparently now posing as Andrew McCabe, MD, he informally head counted how many of Trump’s own cabinet members could be convinced by McCabe’s own apparent medical expertise to help remove the president on grounds of physical and mental incapacity under the 25th Amendment. This was an attempted, albeit pathetic, coup against an elected president and the first really in the history of the United States.

At one point, McCabe claims that the acting Attorney General of the United States Rod Rosenstein volunteered to wear a wire to entrap his boss President Trump—in the manner of Trump’s own attorney Michael Cohen’s entrapment of Trump, in the manner of James Comey taking entrapment notes on confidential Trump one-on-one meetings and leaking them to the press, and in the manner of the Department of Justice surveilling Trump subordinates through FISA and other court authorizations.

McCabe was iconic of an utterly corrupt FBI Washington hierarchy, which we now know from the behavior of its disgraced and departed leadership. They posed as patriotic scouts, but in reality proved themselves arrogant, smug, and incompetent. They harbored such a sense of superiority that they were convinced they could act outside the law in reifying an “insurance policy” that would end the Trump presidency.

The thinking of the conspirators initially had been predicated on three assumptions thematic during this three-year long government effort to destroy Trump:

One, during 2016, Hillary Clinton would certainly win the election and FBI and DOJ unethical and illegal behavior would be forgotten if not rewarded, given the Clintons’ own signature transgressions and proven indifference to the law;

Two, Trump was so controversial and the fabricated dossier was so vile and salacious, that seeded rumors of Trump’s faked perversity gave them de facto exemptions to do whatever they damned pleased;

Three, Trump’s low polls, his controversial reset of American policy, and the general contempt in which he was held by the bipartisan coastal elite, celebrities, and the deep state, meant that even illegal means to continue the campaign-era effort to destroy Trump and now abort his presidency were felt to be moral and heroic acts without legal consequences, and the media would see the conspirators as heroes.

In sum, the Left and the administrative state, in concert with the media, after failing to stop the Trump campaign, regrouped. They ginned up a media-induced public hysteria, with the residue of the Hillary Clinton campaign’s illegal opposition research, and manipulated it to put in place a special counsel, stocked with partisans.

Then, not thugs in sunglasses and epaulettes, not oligarchs in private jets, not shaggy would-be Marxists, but sanctimonious arrogant bureaucrats in suits and ties used their government agencies to seek to overturn the 2016 election, abort a presidency, and subvert the U.S. Constitution. And they did all that and more on the premise that they were our moral superiors and had uniquely divine rights to destroy a presidency that they loathed.

Shame on all these failed conspirators and their abettors, and may these immoral people finally earn a long deserved legal and moral reckoning.

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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2019, 07:30:44 pm »


More stupid-white noise from pig-ignorant Trump-supporting fuckheads who are too stupid to comprehend the truth.
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2019, 08:43:13 pm »


from The Seattle Times…

Mueller report's “not guilty” is not the same as innocent

President Trump claims the redacted version of the Mueller report absolves him of any wrong-doing.

By DAVID HORSEY | 9:02AM PDT — Friday, April 19, 2019



A REDACTED VERSION of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference with the 2016 American presidential election has been released and, though President Trump has claimed it absolves him and his campaign of any wrong-doing, the investigation clearly shows Trump's campaign operatives were happy to benefit from Russian dirty work and that, while Trump's efforts to interfere with the investigation may have failed, it was not for lack of trying.

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• See more of David Horsey's cartoons at The Seattle Times HERE.

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I believe if you take your head out of your arse then everything you see might not look and smell like your own shit
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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2019, 08:53:43 pm »


First Trump claimed the Mueller report vindicated him as being not guilty of collusion and obstruction.

Now Trump is claiming the Mueller report is bullshit.

So if the Mueller report is bullshit, then how can it vindicate Trump being not guilty of collusion and obstrution, therefore he must be guilty.

Sometimes Trump's stupidity is the funniest thing on the planet.

I know one shouldn't laugh at dumb simpletons, but in Trump's case it doesn't matter because he is such a mental retard that one cannot but help laughing at him.
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from the print edition of the Los Angeles Times…

Democrats seek full report, now decried by Trump

House Judiciary chairman subpoenas the unredacted text as president dismisses associates' testimony.

By ELI STOKOLS | Saturday, April 20, 2019

President Trump signaled on Twitter from West Palm Beach, Florida, that he was in damage-control mode over embarrassing details in the Mueller report, which he previously claimed had exonerated him. — Photograph: Joe Raedle/Getty Images.
President Trump signaled on Twitter from West Palm Beach, Florida, that he was in damage-control mode over embarrassing details in the Mueller report,
which he previously claimed had exonerated him. — Photograph: Joe Raedle/Getty Images.


WASHINGTON D.C. — President Trump blasted special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's final report on Friday as “total bullshit,” while the Democratic leader of the House Judiciary Committee issued a subpoena for the unredacted report and its underlying materials.

Although he previously claimed that Mueller's report amounts to a “total exoneration,” Trump angrily dismissed the myriad claims by senior White House aides and associates throughout the 448-page report as false, and cast the document itself as politically motivated.

“Statements are made about me by certain people in the Crazy Mueller Report, in itself written by 18 Angry Democrat Trump Haters, which are fabricated & totally untrue,” Trump tweeted on Friday in his most detailed comments since the redacted report was released Thursday.

“Watch out for people that take so-called ‘notes’, when the notes never existed until needed,” he continued, apparently referring to former White House Counsel Don McGahn, who provided his contemporaneous notes to investigators.

Despite months of negotiations between the White House and Mueller's team, Trump refused to sit down for an interview with Mueller and provided only written responses to questions in which he mostly claimed not to recall many of the episodes and conversations under scrutiny.

Mueller called the president's written answers “inadequate,” but said he decided not to seek a subpoena because it likely would spark a lengthy court battle that would delay the release of the report.

On Friday, however, Trump complained that he was unable to push back on the claims made by his aides in Mueller's report.

“Because I never agreed to testify, it was not necessary for me to respond to statements made in the ‘Report’ about me, some of which are total bullshit & only given to make the other person look good (or me to look bad),” he said in a second tweet before heading off for a round of golf in Palm Beach, Florida.

After issuing only terse comments about the report's release on Thursday, Trump's tweets at the outset of the Passover and Easter weekend signaled that he remains in damage-control mode, fixated on embarrassing details in the report and frustrated that he will continue to govern beneath a cloud of investigations in Congress and elsewhere.

Democrats, already investigating Trump's tax returns, business dealings and relationship with Russia, wasted little time in asking to see Mueller's full, unredacted report.

In his subpoena request on Friday, Democratic Representative Jerrold Nadler of New York, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, asked for the information by May 1. That's the same day that Attorney General William Barr is scheduled to testify before a Senate committee and one day before Barr is set to appear before Nadler's panel.

The subpoena is the opening shot in what could be a lengthy legal and political battle. A number of the pages in the report had blacked-out material from grand jury testimony, intelligence sources and methods, and other protected information.

“Even the redacted version of the report outlines serious instances of wrong-doing by President Trump and some of his closest associates,” Nadler said in announcing the subpoena. “It now falls to Congress to determine the full scope of that alleged misconduct and to decide what steps we must take going forward.”

A spokesperson for Barr called Nadler's request “premature and unnecessary” given that the Justice Department released the report with what they called “minimal redactions,” but vowed to work with Congress to accommodate “its legitimate requests.”

If the Justice Department doesn't respond to the subpoena, Democrats could hold officials in contempt of Congress or eventually fight the battle in court.

The Judiciary Committee voted 24 to 17 earlier this month to give Nadler permission to issue subpoenas for the full report, its exhibits and any underlying evidence or materials prepared for Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Mueller concluded that Trump's campaign did not knowingly coordinate with Russian officials who sought to help him during the 2016 election. But the special counsel left it to Congress to determine whether his efforts to curtail and mislead investigators, many of which are detailed in the report, amount to obstruction of justice.

One Republican, Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, said in a statement that Mueller's determination that Trump did not conspire with Russian officials is “good news” in that a potential constitutional crisis can be avoided. But he also said he was “sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the president.”


Jerrold Nadler, head of the House Judiciary Committee, said that “even the redacted version of the report outlines serious instances of wrong-doing.” — Photograph: Spencer Platt/Getty Images.
Jerrold Nadler, head of the House Judiciary Committee, said that “even the redacted version of the report outlines serious instances of wrong-doing.”
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Trump's legal team had prepared its own “counter report” responding to Mueller, but indicated on Friday that it no longer planned to release it. “At this point unnecessary,” Trump attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani wrote in a text message.

According to two administration aides, Trump was pleased with Barr's news conference on Thursday, during which the attorney general repeatedly stated that Mueller's team found no “collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia, and said the evidence did not merit charging Trump with obstruction of justice.

But Barr's attempt to characterize the evidence as favorable to Trump at a news conference 90 minutes before he released the report to Congress or the public troubled Nadler and many Democrats.

In a radio interview on Friday, Nadler challenged Barr's claim that Mueller's decision not to make a recommendation on whether Trump obstructed justice was unrelated to a longstanding opinion from the Office of Legal Counsel that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime. Mueller wrote that the guidance was a major consideration.

“They stopped the investigation on obstruction at a certain point because [Mueller] didn't want to be in a position where he had so much damning material that he would have to indict, except he couldn't because of the policy,” Nadler said.

About 12% of the report released on Thursday was redacted. It largely corroborated two years of journalistic accounts of a White House beset by infighting under an executive with a penchant for lying to his staff and an expectation that they would lie for his benefit.

It is based on interviews with scores of current and former administration officials, all of whom are named in the report. Among the aides who provided Mueller with notes are McGahn, former staff secretary Rob Porter, former Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and former deputy national security advisor K.T. McFarland.

Mueller's finding that Trump instructed McGahn to fire Mueller in 2017, an order the attorney ultimately refused to carry out, is based on McGahn's own firsthand account.

In one exchange depicted in the report, Trump questioned McGahn about his note-taking.

“Why do you take notes? Lawyers don't take notes. I never had a lawyer who took notes,” Trump reportedly said. McGahn responded that a “real lawyer” does.

Trump shot back that he'd had “a lot of great lawyers,” including Roy Cohn, who he argued “did not take notes.”

Cohn, who won notoriety as chief counsel for Senator Joseph McCarthy's communist-hunting committee in the 1950s, ultimately was disbarred for unethical practices.

The White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, was also on the defensive on Friday.

The report revealed that she admitted to investigators that she lied when she told reporters during a briefing in May 2017 that the White House had heard expressions of gratitude from “countless” FBI agents after Trump fired James B. Comey, the agency's director at the time.

Sanders told Mueller's team that her claim was a “slip of the tongue,” even though she repeated it several times to reporters in the days after Comey's firing.

Mueller determined that Trump fired Comey out of frustration that he wouldn't publicly defend the president and that he forced Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to draft a letter recommending Comey's firing to use as pretext.

On Friday, Sanders sought to retain credibility as the administration's top spokesperson, disputing Mueller's determination that her claim of hearing from countless FBI agents “was not founded on anything.”

“Actually, those were Mueller's words that they weren't founded on anything,” Sanders said on ABC's “Good Morning America”. “I said that it was in the heat of the moment, meaning it wasn't a scripted thing. It was something that I said and which is why that one word has become a big deal. But the big takeaway here is that the sentiment is 100% accurate.”


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Los Angeles Times staff writers Chris Megerian and Jennifer Haberkorn in Washington contributed to this report.

• Eli Stokols is a White House reporter based in the Los Angeles Times Washington, D.C., bureau. He is a veteran of Politico and The Wall Street Journal, where he covered the 2016 presidential campaign and then the Trump White House. A native of Irvine, Stokols grew up in a L.A. Times household and is thrilled to report for what is still his family's hometown paper. He is also a graduate of UC Berkeley and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

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from the print edition of the Los Angeles Times…

On obstruction, Mueller walked fine line

In not rendering judgment against Trump, special counsel focused on three areas of law.

By DAVID G. SAVAGE | Saturday, April 20, 2019

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III was unable to clear President Trump of attempting to illegally interfere with the government's Russia investigation. — Photograph: Andrew Harnik/Associated Press.
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III was unable to clear President Trump of attempting to illegally interfere with the government's Russia investigation.
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WASHINGTON D.C. — The crime of “obstruction of justice” is familiar to many because it drove the impeachment proceedings of two presidents.

President Nixon resigned when he faced impeachment for obstructing justice by covering up the White House role in the break-in at the Watergate offices of the Democratic National Committee. And President Clinton was impeached in the House for allegedly lying and obstructing justice to hide his sexual relationship with a White House intern.

The report by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III lifted part of the cloud over President Trump by concluding his campaign had not conspired with Russians to tilt the 2016 election.

But Mueller said he was unable to clear Trump of attempting to illegally interfere with the government's Russia inquiry. Even so, the special counsel stopped short of charging Trump with obstruction of justice. His report offered at least three reasons for doing so.

First, Mueller said Justice Department policy forbids the “indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting president.” Because Mueller was acting as a special prosecutor within the Justice Department, he said he had to follow this policy. This suggests Mueller believed that no matter what the evidence showed, he did not have the authority to charge the president with a crime.

“It is quite clear that Mueller did not make a final prosecution decision because of the [Justice] Department's policy that presidents cannot be criminally prosecuted,” said Noah Bookbinder, a former federal prosecutor and the executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

Second, unlike a case in which an official seeks to cover up a crime, “the evidence we obtained did not establish the president was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference,” Mueller's report said.

In theory, defendants can be charged with criminal obstruction of justice even when they have not committed the underlying crime. However, it would strike many as wrong-headed to charge Trump with obstructing the Russia inquiry after a lengthy investigation concluded he and his campaign had not conspired with Russians in the first place.

“If there had been an underlying crime, there would have been a much stronger case,” said Laurie L. Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. “But there's no break-in at the Watergate Hotel that needed to be covered up.”

Third, Trump may have been spared further trouble because his top aides ignored him at key moments.

“The president's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful,” the report said, “but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the president declined to carry out his orders or accede to his requests.”

Among other things, Mueller cited Trump's failed attempts to pressure Attorney General Jeff Sessions to curtail the probe and force White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. Both men refused Trump's demands.

“What ends up saving him is that others in the White House did not follow through on his orders,” Levenson said. “This was not a clear-cut case of obstruction, but the report is not a clean bill of health, either.”

This mixed conclusion — outlining at times what Mueller calls “substantial evidence” of Trump's efforts to obstruct without making a recommendation on charges — made for a perplexing outcome and left legal experts divided.

The law against obstructing justice is quite broad, as the report notes. It is illegal to hide evidence, intimidate witnesses, lie to investigators or “endeavor to influence, obstruct or impede” a pending investigation.

For about half the nation, that appeared to be exactly what Trump had been doing since shortly after taking office.

But motives are also critical. The law requires obstruction of justice be linked to a “corrupt” intent, such as urging a witness to lie under oath to mislead the grand jury.

Attorney General William Barr — who controversially concluded that the president's actions as described by Mueller did not constitute illegal obstruction — insisted that Trump was merely trying to defend his reputation out of a “sincere belief” that he didn't conspire with Russia and therefore was being unfairly attacked.

But critics say Trump's actions — firing FBI Director James B. Comey, trying to fire Mueller, moving to limit the scope of the inquiry and pressuring intelligence officials to speak out in his defense — laid out a clear case of illegal obstruction for Congress, or for future prosecutors after Trump leaves office.

“The Mueller report lays out a vast body of evidence of obstructive conduct by the president,” Bookbinder said.

“This was a classic pattern of threats, firings and use of power to undermine an investigation. It is a danger if this is somehow normalized. It's now up to Congress to take it from here.”

Jonathan Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, disagrees, saying he did not see a clear case of obstruction of justice. He said Mueller portrayed the president as angry about being under investigation.

“In my view, the report reveals more obsession than obstruction,” Turley said. “Trump comes across as someone who is obsessed with the investigation and its impact on his presidency. He was angry that Comey would not say in public that he was not under investigation. Had he fired Mueller, they might have a case. But what you are left with here is that the president issued orders and no one listened.”


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• David G. Savage has covered the Supreme Court and legal issues for the Los Angeles Times in the Washington D.C. bureau since 1986. He has covered the Senate confirmation hearings for all of the current justices. In addition to writing about the court's work, he has written on the legal battles that have raged in Washington. He joined the Los Angeles Times in 1981 and was an education writer on the Metro staff for five years. He has degrees from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Northwestern University.

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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2019, 01:12:33 pm »


First Trump claimed the Mueller report vindicated him as being not guilty of collusion and obstruction.

Now Trump is claiming the Mueller report is bullshit.

So if the Mueller report is bullshit, then how can it vindicate Trump being not guilty of collusion and obstrution, therefore he must be guilty.

Sometimes Trump's stupidity is the funniest thing on the planet.

I know one shouldn't laugh at dumb simpletons, but in Trump's case it doesn't matter because he is such a mental retard that one cannot but help laughing at him.
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The Mueller Report: summarised in pictures…



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Yep ... the total & utter DESPERATION of the morally-bankrupt Trump-supporting brigade continues.

They are too mentally-retarded to refute FACTS, so they simply resort to abuse.

Trump-supporters are even dumber than the dogshit on the footpath down the road from my place.
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Duh no Russian collusion no obstruction so 2 years of Dem shit-stream media fake news

Trump wins again yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Grin
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Barr can bullshit and cover up parts of the Mueller report all he likes.

Mueller will end up testifying to Congress and telling the TRUTH about what was in the report and which Barr covered up.

The Feds will be waiting with the handcuffs the instant the 46th president is sworn into office.

Trump knows it, and Nancy knows it. That's why she is advising her fellow Democrats against impeachment. Far better to simply lock up Trump when he is no longer Prez.
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we keep hearing these stories and they keep on turning out to be total bullshit from the losers
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Yeah, you just keep on believing your delusional shit.

When the handcuffs get slapped on Trump's wrists as soon as the 46th president is sworn into office, you'll be able to screw your eyes tightly shut, stick your fingers in your ears, and chant over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, “It's not happening!”
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THE FIRST BATTLE SQUADRON OF DREADNOUGHTS, 1910 — oil painting by A.B. Cull.

With the commissioning of HMS ST VINCENT on 3 May 1910, the First Division, Home Fleet, was complete. Composed now of 7 dreadnoughts, this was the first such all-dreadnought squadron in the world: Cull's painting therefore marks an important event in naval history and although three similar oil paintings by Cull are in the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, this one, most unusually, has been in private ownership for at least half a century.

 In the foreground, leading the dreadnoughts of the First Division, Home Fleet and flying the cross of St George of the Commander-in-Chief Home Fleet, Admiral Sir William May GCVO KCB, is the ship who gave her name to this new breed of super battleship, HMS DREADNOUGHT (Captain H.W. Richmond RN). Astern of her are HMS BELLEROPHON (Captain H. Evan-Thomas MVO RN), HMS TEMERAIRE (Captain A.L. Duff RN) and HMS SUPERB (Captain F.C.T. Tudor RN) all of the Bellerophon Class. Next, and flying the flag of Rear Admiral Home Fleet, Rear Admiral F.C.D. Sturdee CVO CMG, is HMS ST VINCENT (Captain D.R.L. Nicholson RN) who is leading the other two ships of the St Vincent Class, HMS VANGUARD (Captain J.B. Eustace RN) and HMS COLLINGWOOD (Captain W.C. Pakenham CB MVO RN). Out on the starboard beam of the Commander-in-Chief is the world's first battle cruiser, then still known as an armoured cruiser, HMS INDOMITABLE (Captain C.M. de Bartolome RN) flying the flag of Rear Admiral Commanding First Cruiser Squadron, Rear Admiral the Hon Stanley Colville CVO CB. Back in the summer of 1908 INDOMITABLE had beaten INFLEXIBLE into commission by four months: so she and DREADNOUGHT were indeed the first of their respective types at sea anywhere in the world. Out to port of the battle Squadron and making white smoke is the 2nd Class protected cruiser HMS DIDO (Captain H.G.G. Sanderson RN) who was attached to the First Division. This was indeed a remarkable sight and the old lugger beating down between the lines can be excused for momentarily taking his eye off his course as he apprehensively looks at the approaching wall of steel — never before had such a powerful force of ships been gathered at sea.

Alma Burlton Cull was a contemporary of W.L. Wyllie, athough his pictures are much rarer as a large number of them were lost in an air raid in Portsmouth in 1940. He painted many and varied subjects, mostly with a maritime flavour, exhibited at the Royal Academy and was commissioned by HM King Edward VII to execute several paintings. He is widely accepted as being a marine artist second only in his day to Wyllie.



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