Steven Joyce has shown himself up to be an A-grade LIAR.
His claims that there is a big fiscal hole in the finances of Labour's promises are a HUGE load of BULLSHIT.
When challenged by Guyon Espiner to produce a single expert (or even a single taxi driver) who would back up his claims, he couldn't.
Yet heaps of economists and financial experts have backed up Grant Robertson's figures.
Which PROVES that the current Minister of Finance is panicking about losing, so is reverting to DESPERATE LIES.
• Steven Joyce and Grant Robertson clash in fiery finance debateAnd not just once, but THREE TIMES too, in 2011 and 2014, as well as this year in 2017.
Steven Joyce has a history of telling LIES about the financial projections of other political parties.
• There's no fiscal black hole, just an incredibly tight squeeze. Can we move on now?If Steven Joyce cannot even tell the truth about financial matters during an election campaign, why should we believe anything this LIAR says?