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America has always been a nasty, racist, fascist country....

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« on: August 19, 2017, 02:05:27 pm »


....Donald Trump is merely the latest piece of proof that this is absolutely 100% gospel fact & truth!



from the Los Angeles Times....

Is Trump ignorant of America's darker history, or is he part of it?

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Friday, August 18, 2017

This David Horsey cartoon from April 2014 has gained greater relevance in the wake of violent clashes between neo-Nazis and counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia.
This David Horsey cartoon from April 2014 has gained greater relevance in the wake of violent clashes between neo-Nazis
and counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia.


ON the night of February 20th, 1939, 20,000 Nazi sympathizers gathered at a “Pro-America Rally” inside Madison Square Garden in New York City. They proclaimed George Washington the “first fascist” and mocked the man who was then president as “Franklin D. Rosenfeld”. They characterized his New Deal as a “Jew Deal”.

Outside the hall, 80,000 anti-fascist protesters gathered. Some fought with police while trying to get inside the Garden to shut down the Nazi event. I suppose someone might have said that there was hatred and violence on both sides, as President Trump said of the confrontation last weekend between neo-Nazis and counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, but history shows us which side was right and which was wrong.

Most Americans are poorly educated about their country's past, and the current president appears to be especially ignorant. Does Trump know that in the 1930s, thousands of Adolph Hitler's American admirers were politically active throughout the country? Has he heard of the Silver Legion of America, an anti-Semitic, white supremacist group that ran William Dudley Pelley for president on a third-party ticket in 1936?

Has Trump seen the photographs showing tens of thousands of white-robed Ku Klux Klan members marching down Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington in 1925 and again in 1926? Can he recognize the names Michael Schwerner, Andrew Goodman and James Chaney? Does he know they were young civil rights workers who were killed by the KKK in 1964 because they were helping black Americans register to vote?

Dark forces have tried to control our society since the country's inception. Racists, anti-Semites and anti-immigrant bigots have always been among us. Sometimes they have been on the fringes; other times, they have held power in many states and in Congress. The reason new manifestations of these dreadful philosophies need to be resisted is that they are never completely defeated, and, if not opposed, they can gain in popularity and power.

Here's the disturbing question that now faces us: Is President Trump simply ignorant of this darker history, or is he fully aware and eager to be part of it?


http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-cellar-rats-20170817-story.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2017, 02:32:21 pm »

ktj...."merely the latest piece of proof that this is absolutely 100% gospel fact & truth!"

...yes...I agree...David Horsey is a demented leftist fuckwit😉
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2017, 06:34:23 pm »

Litmus test... Immigrants banging on America's door to get in. Checkmate.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2017, 06:40:52 pm »

....and another thing....where did that picture by my name come from...the blone girl..I know nothing about it...🙄

...... an only assume that it the first of my 72  virgins😜
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2017, 06:41:58 pm »

Paltrow?
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2017, 06:44:09 pm »

..I guess...but how did she get there....I know nothing about it😳

...does this mean that someone is going into my personal settings??
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 07:43:17 pm »

It appears some mods have access to people's passwords.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2017, 08:03:00 pm »

Ohhh....grrrrrrreat...that's all we need😳

...some dirty bastards playing with our personal parts....😜
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 11:34:53 am »

“Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the K.K.K., neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2017, 02:35:50 pm »

I understand that....it is quite clear......are the left in denial....I don't see the problem....oh that's right...it doesn't fit with the "fake news fetish"😉
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2017, 07:16:46 pm »

Yep, doesn't fit with their brainwashing  about anyone not exuding the same "vibe" as the lunatic SJW left must be a nazi or a bigot.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2017, 07:50:07 pm »

I notice now also that the left say all of a sudden that there are many old statues that are racist and need to be torn down immediately, they were ok last year and the year before that and the year before that and......ad infinitum....the left really are demented🙄...quite sickening
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 02:11:32 pm »

Yes these self righteous brainwashed bullying twits now infest most HR departments, govt department bureaucracies and institutions of education. Google and the like and now trying to censor the internet from anything that doesn't conform with loony left brainwashing.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 02:34:30 pm »

...yeah...during the last 8 years of Obumma, there was no mention of the confederate memorials....now with a white president they are a big problem...WTF😳
...the left really are a demented bunch.....a threat to the planet 😒
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 02:56:30 pm »

They are certainly a threat to the continuation of Western civilisation. Aldous Huxley predicted the world would eventually be run by a communist dictatorship. He may have been right by the looks of it. If so, after a few decades of that kind of horror, the loony left will be no more, for centuries probably. People learn after they've lived under communist lunacy.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 03:03:04 pm »

I am convinced that the people who have lived their lives over the last few generations have had the best of it....looks like one way or another the future is gong to be more difficult🙄....or a nightmare😳
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2017, 06:29:26 pm »

Yes I'm thinking things may lurch more towards bad craziness. The last 70 years may indeed have been as good as it gets for humanity (generally).
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2017, 06:34:26 pm »

Looks like both Aus and NZ could be heading towards Labor coalitions of some sort. A double crappy?? 😁 For Aus that will mean mineral wealth locked up by green loonies, and higher power prices due to deployment of Eco crap power generation. I presume they gates will be swung wide open to the religion of peace too. The economic and societal rot will therefore accelerate.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2017, 07:16:46 pm »

I think where we all may be heading is a combo of "Idiocracy", "1984", "Brave new world" and perhaps Venezuela.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2017, 08:20:33 pm »

Ahhhhh...yes...Venezuela.....the pinnacle of ideal socialist govt.....they must think they have died and gone to heaven😳
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2017, 09:21:22 pm »

I do think there will need to be a certain portion of modern European style "socialism" if AI and automation take the majority of jobs away. We can't all be robot technicians and designers. Obviously you need a capitalist economy underlying everything to provide for your "social goodies".
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2017, 08:03:06 am »

...and in NZ there are nasty people also....
....just to think there are people in NZ who are so demented that they go to listen to this fuckwit every Sunday....
...doesn't say much about the IQ of may kiwis😳

He might be an arsehole, but he shouldn’t be prosecuted


Following on from the Google thought experiment into determining whether something is toxic or not, is the news that the offensive pastor who talked about shooting gays, won’t be prosecuted.


 Police have decided not to take any action against a West Auckland pastor who said gay people should be shot “through their head the moment they kiss”.

Pastor Logan Robertson of the Westcity Bible Baptist Church said police interviewed him at his home yesterday but could not do anything because he had not broken any law.


A police spokeswoman confirmed that police “are not in a position to pursue the matter any further as no criminal offence has been committed”.

“Police have finished making enquiries into a video posted online which showed an individual making concerning comments,” she said.

“Police have considered the appropriate legislation and sought a legal opinion on the matter and we are not in a position to pursue the matter any further as no criminal offence has been committed.

“We have taken extra precaution with this case given the individual’s comments. This has included discussing with him the safety of our community and his personal safety.”

Robertson said he told police that he was not personally threatening to kill anyone.

“I’m not saying I’m going to go out and kill anyone, I’m just saying that’s what the law of the land should be. Obviously there would have to be a trial and all the rest of it,” he said.

Good. He might be a complete dickhead, and said a stupid offensive thing, but prosecution isn’t the answer. He should be mocked and laughed at instead.

But wait, the thought police are mobilising.

Otago law school dean Professor Mark Henaghan said the case showed a need for a more general law against “hate speech” beyond the area of racial disharmony.

“To me it shows a gap in our law,” he said. “I think this is almost a poster case for why we should have [a law against] hate crime.”

Wrong. Who gets to define what a hate crime is?

What if they brought in that legislation and I said something offensive about socialists…which I do every single day because they really do offend me…what then? Someone could call that hate speech and have me prosecuted.

This is a dangerous slippery slope to head down applying moral judgments to what people say.

I despise neo-nazis and racists, but I don’t want them shut down. I want them exposed. Prosecuting them and silencing them is only an outward solution that is no solution at all. It drives them underground to fester with all their poison there.

Nicky Hager and his little band of media helpers tried to have me shut down. What did I do? Was it criminal? Was it illegal? No on all counts. What I did was dare to be effective at promoting my political agenda and beliefs. This is what is dangerous when you seek to define something as hateful or inappropriate or offensive…someone has to pass a moral judgment.

Nicky Hager, without a shred of self awareness, worked with a criminal, breached my and my friends privacy, sought to have me removed from political discourse, all for the high crimes of having a different opinion. He was aided and abetted by a complicit and involved media and they all treat him as a hero of freedom of expression. He is the opposite of that.

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2017, 10:37:05 am »

OK I don't believe in any religious hogwash but I do unfortunately know many people who do.

Due to childhood brainwashing I also have read the Christian bible. That pastor is a very dark stain on the vast majority of Christians. While Christians may believe a bunch of unsubstantiated bunkum, they would find that pastor an absolute disgrace and someone absolutely not fit to be in that position.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2017, 11:15:05 am »

No mention by the SJW thought police of course about what the religion of peace teaches about homosexuality.
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2017, 11:33:00 am »

According to Kiwiblog....

The Baptist Churches of NZ has said:

The Baptist Churches of NZ are in no way connected with or affirm in any way the comments made by the self-proclaimed pastor, Logan Robertson of Westside Bible Baptist Church. The NZ Baptist Union of Churches are appalled by the comments of hatred and evil made by pastor Robertson towards the gay community.

Unfortunately, the “Baptist” name is not a franchise. The name can be taken by any group or person who wishes to use this longstanding name to identify themselves. In the case of Pastor Logan Robertson, he is not an ordained or registered pastor of any denomination. He does not have a congregation or a church building or meeting space. He has established a church website thereby claiming to be a church. Therefore his desire to call himself a pastor is entirely fraudulent.

NZ Baptists cannot take responsibility for Mr Robertson’s actions. Yet we are deeply disturbed by any pain that Mr Robertson has caused the gay community. Equally the NZ Baptist churches have been demeaned by his vitriol, leaving many of our Baptist church members and pastors wrongly implicated by Robertson’s actions.

It’s understood that Mr Robertson has had a recent history of mental illness. For this reason we need to pray for his well being to see him get through the difficulties he has brought upon himself and his family.
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