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« Reply #100 on: August 12, 2017, 09:02:41 pm »

Adj..."Which makes me wonder even more if Kim all wrong is simply China's thug puppet. Goading the west to distract and to waste resources. Why does China always support (or at least fail to dissuade)  the bad guys?"

...China does not want a free democracy on its doorstep...the natives may get restless😏
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« Reply #101 on: August 12, 2017, 09:10:43 pm »

I think Trump is doing a good job...sort it out before it gets even more power...in which case the price will always go up..I don't really see a problem with the way the west are handling it, how would you approach the situation differently....in view of the the unnegotiable stance of NK for many years...only continuing to break deals that they have negotiated by extortion.....and the UN ( including Russia and China) who don't usually like to do what the US wants, just egreed to make tougher sanctions which Kim is spewing about now...
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« Reply #102 on: August 12, 2017, 09:40:34 pm »

Yes successive presidents have simply kicked the NK can down the road for someone else to deal with later (ditto Iran). NK leadership is now almost ready to roll, going full retard.
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« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2017, 09:46:16 pm »


China will never take out Kim Jong-un, because the Chinese fear millions of North Korean refugees battering down the border fences more than they fear America. Ater all, China has successfully tested the satellite-destroying missiles that are in their arsenal, so their first targets would be all of the American satellites which the American military cannot function without these days. And that would tend to really even things up.
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« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2017, 10:23:57 pm »

Stick with the facts......

...China supports the new UN tougher sanctions..
...China has stated its position that if Kim attacks the IS or US Allie first...it will do nothing to stop the US tuning NK into ash
...China is the North’s biggest economic partner and source of aid, but says it alone can’t compel Pyongyang to end its nuclear and missile programs...
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« Reply #105 on: August 29, 2017, 11:04:00 am »


from The Washington Post....

North Korean missile flies over Japan, escalating tensions
and prompting an angry response from Tokyo


The launch comes as Pyongyang has been threatening to fire a missile to land close to Guam.

By ANNA FIFIELD | 6:09PM EDT - Monday, August 28, 2017

This image from video aired by North Korea's KRT shows North Korean leader Kim Jong Un inspecting soldiers during what Korean Central News Agency called a “target-striking contest” on August 26th. — Photograph: KRT/Associated Press.
This image from video aired by North Korea's KRT shows North Korean leader Kim Jong Un inspecting soldiers during what
Korean Central News Agency called a “target-striking contest” on August 26th. — Photograph: KRT/Associated Press.


TOKYO — North Korea launched a ballistic missile on Tuesday morning that flew over the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, public broadcaster NHK reported. The government issued an alert for residents in some prefectures to take cover.

Although North Korea has sent a missile over Japan once before — in 1998 — this launch comes at a time of heightened tensions. Pyongyang has been threatening to fire a missile over Japan and into the waters around the American territory of Guam.

“We'll make the utmost effort to protect the public,” a visibly agitated Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, told reporters at his office early on Tuesday morning. NHK showed Patriot missiles lined up in Japan, a staunch U.S. ally, ready to shoot down any incoming missiles.

The Japanese government convened an emergency national security council meeting for 8 a.m. to discuss the threat.

The missile was launched at 5:58 a.m. Japanese time from a site at Sunan, north of Pyongyang. Sunan is the location of the country's main international airport.

There was initial confusion over how many missiles were fired. Japan reported that three missiles had been launched, but later clarified to say that it thought one missile had been launched but that it had broken into three parts during flight.

The missile flew over Hokkaido at 6:06 a.m. It traveled 733 miles to land in the Pacific Ocean east of Hokkaido's Cape Erimo, NHK reported.

South Korea's joint chiefs of staff also confirmed that the missile had passed over Japan.

Tuesday's launches, on the heels of three short-range missiles fired on Saturday, come amid ongoing joint exercises between the United States and South Korean militaries, exercises that North Korea always strongly protests because it considers them preparation for an invasion.

The launches mark a dangerous new escalation from Kim Jong Un’s regime.

Kim — who has ordered the launch of 18 missiles this year alone, compared to the 16 missiles his father, Kim Jong Il, fired during 17 years in power —has defied international calls to stop his provocations.

Missile launches and nuclear tests are banned by the United Nations Security Council so the North Korean action consistutes a violation that will elicit more angry condemnation.

But Kim has pressed ahead unrelentingly, making strides with his missile program.

Last month, North Korea launched two intercontinental ballistic missiles theoretically capable of reaching the mainland United States.

Kim's regime had been threatening to fire a missile to pass over Japan and land near Guam, the American territory in the Pacific Ocean that is home to two huge U.S. military bases, by the middle of this month. However, Kim later said that after reviewing the plans, he would “watch the Yankees a little longer” before making a decision whether to launch.

North Korea listed prefectures including Hiroshima, Ehime and Kochi as on the flight path. But Tuesday's missile went in the other direction, north over Hokkaido and away from Guam.

After the Guam threat, President Trump has warned North Korea that “things will happen to them like they never thought possible” should the isolated country attack the United States or its allies.


• Anna Fifield is The Washington Post’s bureau chief in Tokyo, focusing on Japan and the Koreas. She previously reported for the Financial Times from Washington DC, Seoul, Sydney, London and from across the Middle East.

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« Reply #106 on: August 29, 2017, 11:07:02 am »

Where do you think a butt-poor nation with millions of malnourished people like NK gets nuclear  missile materials and technology from?
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« Reply #107 on: August 29, 2017, 11:07:08 am »


And in an article published on Breithart over the weekend, Steve Bannon wrote that Donald Trump was basically full-of-shit when he made his “fire and fury” threats against North Korea. According to Mr Bannon, Trump was making empty threats and firing blanks.

Hahaha....it's good that Trump and Bannon have fallen out, because now Steve Bannon is spilling the beans on what a stupid retard Donald Trump is.
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« Reply #108 on: August 29, 2017, 11:20:14 am »


The way the west is heading I suspect there will be some kind of meltdown then Marshall law. Lefties are generally about 20 or 30 percent of the population but they want everything their way. And a lot of their way is irrational.
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« Reply #109 on: August 29, 2017, 11:30:09 am »

I recall a certain H Clinton stating "we will obliterate you" in regards Iran.
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« Reply #110 on: August 29, 2017, 01:19:39 pm »


The American “Arms & Warmongering” industrial-military machine in action....



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« Reply #111 on: August 29, 2017, 04:04:44 pm »

Ktj...."Pyongyang's nuclear and missile programs have perplexed the last three American presidents. They have tried negotiation, economic aid, international sanctions, diplomatic pressure and even covert action."


...hang on ...does include Oh-bummer .... the gutless guy in charge over the last eight long years....😳
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« Reply #112 on: August 29, 2017, 04:45:09 pm »


There you go again....showing that your are too intellectually-retarded to know how to spell Obama correctly.

Faaaaaark.....is your head full of dog-shit instead of brains?

'cause dog shit is more intelligent than what is inside your head.

 
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« Reply #113 on: August 30, 2017, 01:48:02 pm »


from The Washington Post....

Trump: ‘All options are on the table’ after North Korea
launched missile over Japan


The president's response was more restrained than his past pledges of “fire and fury”.

By JOHN WAGNER and ANNA FIFIELD | 9:17AM EDT - Tuesday, August 29, 2017

President Trump said earlier this month that he would make Kim Jong Un “truly regret” harming the United States or its allies. — Photograph: Carolyn Kaster/Associated Press.
President Trump said earlier this month that he would make Kim Jong Un “truly regret” harming the United States or its allies.
 — Photograph: Carolyn Kaster/Associated Press.


PRESIDENT TRUMP said that “all options are on the table” following North Korea's latest missile launch early on Tuesday, this one fired over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean in the most brazen provocation of Kim Jong Un's five-year-long rule.

“The world has received North Korea's latest message loud and clear: This regime has signaled its contempt for its neighbors, for all members of the United Nations, and for minimum standards of acceptable international behavior,” Trump said on Tuesday morning in a statement. “Threatening and destabilizing actions only increase the North Korean regime's isolation in the region and among all nations of the world. All options are on the table.”

Despite the grave warning, Trump's statement was notably measured in contrast to his response to previous tests of ballistic missile launches by North Korea. After a recent spate, he promised “fire and fury” if the isolated nation continued to provoke the United States.

Trump also said earlier this month that he would make Kim “truly regret” harming the United States or its allies.

As he walked from the White House to Marine One, en route to survey hurricane damage in Texas, Trump paused briefly to answer a reporter's question about what he plans to do about North Korea.

“We'll see, we'll see,” he said.

Trump's statement came more than 12 hours after White House aides had signaled a statement by the president was in the works.

The Japanese prime minister's office said Shinzo Abe and Trump talked by phone for 40 minutes after the launch, agreeing that they should increase pressure on North Korea.

The missile appears to have been a Hwasong-12, the inter­mediate-range ballistic missile technically capable of flying 3,000 miles that North Korea has been threatening to launch toward the U.S. territory of Guam. But North Korea launched Tuesday's missile to the east, over Hokkaido and into the Pacific rather than on a southward path toward Guam, apparently to test its flight on a normal trajectory without crossing a “red line” of aiming at the United States.

Still, this launch, coming after North Korea last month launched two intercontinental ballistic missiles theoretically capable of reaching the U.S. mainland, underscore both Kim's defiance of the international community and his determination to press ahead with his missile program. Kim has now ordered the launch of 18 missiles this year alone, compared with the 16 missiles his father, Kim Jong Il, fired during 17 years in power.

The U.N. Security Council confirmed that it would hold an emergency meeting in New York on Tuesday to discuss the latest provocation. Missile launches and nuclear tests are banned by the U.N. Security Council, but North Korea has paid no attention to its resolutions.

Kim's government had been threatening to fire a missile to land near Guam, which is home to two huge U.S. military bases, by the middle of this month. However, Kim later said that after reviewing the plans, he would “watch the Yankees a little longer” before making a decision about whether to launch.

After the Guam threat, Trump warned North Korea that “things will happen to them like they never thought possible” should the isolated country attack the United States or its allies.

With no missile launches during the first three weeks of August, the Trump administration had suggested that its tough talk was working. At a campaign-style rally in Phoenix last week, Trump alluded to his earlier rhetoric on North Korea, telling a boisterous crowd that Kim was “starting to respect” the United States.

“I respect the fact that I believe he is starting to respect us,” Trump said at the rally. “I respect that fact very much. Respect that fact.”

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made a similar argument at the time, saying that he was pleased “to see that the regime in Pyongyang has certainly demonstrated some level of restraint that we've not seen in the past.”

Those comments came before North Korea's firing of three short-range missiles on Friday.

Asked during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday” if he still stood by his and Trump's assessments, Tillerson said, “I don't know that we're wrong. I think it's going to take some time to tell."


Anna Fifield reported from Tokyo.

• John Wagner is a national political reporter covering the White House for The Washington Post.

• Anna Fifield is The Washington Post's bureau chief in Tokyo, focusing on Japan and the Koreas. She previously reported for the Financial Times from Washington DC, Seoul, Sydney, London and from across the Middle East.

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 • VIDEO: North Korean missile passes over northern Japan

 • VIDEO: Trump on North Korea: ‘They will be met with fire and fury’


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« Reply #114 on: August 30, 2017, 01:49:08 pm »



In other words....as Steve Bannon intimated in an article he wrote, which was published by Breithart during last weekend, Trump is all bullshit & bluster.

Trump is shooting blanks, yet is still probably managing to shoot himself in the foot.
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« Reply #115 on: August 30, 2017, 01:50:52 pm »


from The Washington Post....

North Korea's latest launch suggests it rejects both
U.S. threats and offers to talk


Trump says “all options are on the table” after ballistic missile is launched over Japan.

By ANNE GEARAN and ANNA FIFIELD | 7:01PM EDT - Tuesday, August 29, 2017

People watch a television news screen showing file footage of a North Korean missile launch, at a railway station in Seoul on August 29th, 2017. — Photograph: Jung Yeon-Je/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images.
People watch a television news screen showing file footage of a North Korean missile launch, at a railway station in Seoul
on August 29th, 2017. — Photograph: Jung Yeon-Je/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images.


NORTH KOREA's launch of a ballistic missile over Japan was unprecedented, but President Trump's response on Tuesday was not — a renewal of his warning that “all options are on the table.” His tough talk may only serve to remind that the possibility of military action has not yet deterred North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

The missile launch seemed designed to wreak just the right amount of havoc: enough for Kim to show that he would not be cowed but not so much as to invite the “fire and fury” that Trump warned could follow continued North Korean threats.

The launch early on Tuesday was the first test of such a sophisticated weapon over the landmass of a U.S. ally and an obvious warning to the United States that North Korea could easily target U.S. military facilities on Guam or elsewhere in the Pacific region.

It came during annual joint military exercises between the United States and South Korea that have infuriated the nuclear-armed communist regime. It also came despite recent offers of talks from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

“The world has received North Korea's latest message loud and clear: this regime has signaled its contempt for its neighbors, for all members of the United Nations, and for minimum standards of acceptable international behavior,” Trump said in an early morning statement.

“Threatening and destabilizing actions only increase the North Korean regime's isolation in the region and among all nations of the world,” he said. “All options are on the table.”

The United States requested an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council, which this month unanimously approved the strictest economic sanctions to date on a nation that already is one of the most heavily sanctioned in the world.

“No country should have missiles flying over them like those 130 million people in Japan. It's unacceptable,” U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said.

North Korea has “violated every single U.N. Security Council resolution that we've had, and so I think something serious has to happen,” she added. “Enough is enough.”

There was no indication that Kim was intimidated by the White House reaction. The state Korean Central News Agency reported on Wednesday morning local time that the North Korean leader had been present for the missile launch and had called it “a meaningful prelude to containing Guam.” According to the agency, Kim said he had gone ahead with the missile launch because the United States proceeded with “the bellicose war exercises” with South Korea.

International outrage over the latest North Korean missile went well beyond Washington. Trump spoke by phone with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe hours after the launch, and the two leaders “committed to increasing pressure on North Korea, and doing their utmost to convince the international community to do the same,” according to a White House statement.

That was a reference to stiff international sanctions that so far have failed to stop North Korea from developing working nuclear bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles. The United States claims North Korea could not evade those sanctions if other countries including China enforced them more stringently.

Asked about the effectiveness of sanctions and international denunciation, given that North Korea does not seem to care about the moves, deputy British U.N. envoy Jonathan Allen insisted such actions have merit.

“They send that really important message of the entire world being united, and they do have an impact on North Korea,” Allen told reporters at the United Nations.

The missile appeared to be a Hwasong-12, the intermediate-range ballistic missile that North Korea has been threatening to shoot into the waters near the U.S. territory of Guam.

But North Korea did not shoot it southeast toward Guam. Instead, it lobbed the missile in a northeasterly direction, over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean.

It was, as Stephan Haggard, a political scientist and Korea expert at the University of California at San Diego, described it, “perfectly calibrated to create political mischief.”

“The launch shows how Kim Jong Un is weirdly conservative, calibrating tests so that they are difficult to counter, flying just beneath the radar of a required kinetic response,” Haggard said.

Taro Kono, Japan's foreign minister, acknowledged as much. “If North Korea had launched the missile to the south, the U.S. might have viewed it as a considerable provocation and responded accordingly,” Kono told reporters after the launch.

North Korea's action also seemed designed to drive a wedge between its neighbors.

In Japan, Abe called it “an unprecedented, grave and serious threat.” Abe wants to beef up Japan's military capabilities, and missile launches like this provide ammunition for his controversial cause. South Korea's liberal president, Moon Jae-in, who has promoted engagement with Pyongyang, immediately denounced the launch and sent his fighter jets to drop bombs on a shooting range near the border with North Korea.

Both reactions appear to have rattled China, where officials called on all sides to take a step back. Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying characterized the North Korea situation as “at a tipping point, approaching a crisis.” She repeated China's call for talks between North Korea and the United States.

Tillerson had stressed on Sunday that the offer of talks remained open, and he encouraged Kim to choose “a different path.” For weeks, U.S. officials have sought to assure Kim that Washington does not want to topple him or invade his country, a message also meant to appeal to North Korea's protector, China.

Trump said last week that North Korea was finally “starting to respect us,” although he added that his threat to answer the country’s provocations with “fire and fury” might not have been strong enough.

Tillerson also had publicly praised North Korea last week for showing “restraint” since the U.N. Security Council vote and in the face of the annual military drills. Although North Korea had not test-launched any missiles for nearly a month at that point, it has done so twice since Tillerson spoke.

North Korea fired rockets over the Japanese mainland in 1998 and 2009 — but it described them as satellite launch vehicles and gave Japan advance warning in the second case. Tuesday's missile launch was purely military and “demonstrated a direct threat,” said Narushige Michishita, an expert on Korean Peninsula security issues at the Graduate Institute for Policy Studies in Tokyo.

“From a military point of view, they have demonstrated an ability to use a very mobile, agile missile against targets anywhere in Japan,” he said.

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has said that the United States would shoot down any missile North Korea fired at Guam or a U.S. ally.


Anna Fifield reported from Tokyo.

• Anne Gearan is a national politics correspondent for The Washington Post.

• Anna Fifield is The Washington Post's bureau chief in Tokyo, focusing on Japan and the Koreas. She previously reported for the Financial Times from Washington DC, Seoul, Sydney, London and from across the Middle East.

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Related to this topic:

 • VIDEO: Why the U.S. and North Korea aren't going to war just yet

 • VIDEO: Warning sirens sound across Japan as North Korean missile passes over Hokkaido

 • North Korea mocks Trump's ‘ego-driven’ Twitter posts as military exercises continue

 • In a dangerous time, the Pentagon prepares for a war game on the Korean Peninsula


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« Reply #116 on: August 30, 2017, 01:53:07 pm »

Ktj..."As he walked from the White House to Marine One, en route to survey hurricane damage in Texas"....

...yes..I agree...great to see President Trump going to give his support to the flood victims....good work😉
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« Reply #117 on: August 30, 2017, 01:53:12 pm »


Anna Fifield is one of several Kiwi journalists working for The Washington Post.

By way of comparison, the likes of InfoWars.com, Fox News and Breithart mostly have idiots & clowns writing for them.

Mind you, I guess there has to be garbage for stupid people such as Reality/Donald and Adjustor to read, because their brains are too deficient to comprehend quality journalism.

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« Reply #118 on: August 30, 2017, 01:57:10 pm »

I don't subscribe to your chosen lefty yankee rags for the same reason that I don't subscribe to religion...

.....fake means bullshit😉
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« Reply #119 on: August 30, 2017, 07:18:31 pm »


Yep, I already KNOW you are fucked in the head and mentally deficient.

And a RETARD.
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« Reply #120 on: August 30, 2017, 10:45:36 pm »

...good to the UN condemning North Korea🙄


UN condemns North Korea missile launch, Pyongyang says more to come

The United Nations condemned North Korea's "outrageous" firing of a ballistic missile over Japan on Tuesday, demanding Pyongyang halt its weapons programme but holding back on any threat of new sanctions on the isolated regime.

North Korea said the launch of an intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) was to counter US and South Korean military drills and was a first step in military action in the Pacific to "contain" the US territory of Guam.

The North's leader Kim Jong Un ordered the launch to be conducted for the first time from its capital, Pyongyang, and said more exercises with the Pacific as the target were needed, the North's KCNA news agency said on Wednesday.
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« Reply #121 on: August 31, 2017, 12:09:47 pm »


The UN regularly condemns Israel for its terrorist activities too (that is when the USA doesn't use the power of veto to over-ride the democratic voting of other countries).

Yet Israel ignores that condemnation, so why should North Korea take any notice of the UN when Israel doesn't?

Anyway, America carried on testing missiles and nuclear warheads for decades, in spite of opposition from elsewhere in the world and from many of its own citizens. And that is after using nuclear weapons to TWICE waste tens of thousands of human beings in the blink of an eye.

So apart from using nuclear weapons to commit mass-extermination of human beings (only the USA has ever done that), North Korea is only doing what the USA, the Soviet Union/Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, India and Pakistan has already done.

Talk about a shitload of pots calling the kettle black, eh? There's a word for that.....HYPOCRISY!!
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« Reply #122 on: August 31, 2017, 01:55:06 pm »

Ktj..."anyway America carried on testing missiles and nuclear warheads for decades, in spite of opposition from elsewhere in the world and from many of its own citizens. And that is after using nuclear weapons to TWICE waste tens of thousands of human beings in the blink of an eye."

.....yes....a great thing...thank Christ for that.....unless of course you are fluent in Japanese and love to eat raw whale meat😜
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« Reply #123 on: August 31, 2017, 03:45:31 pm »


Okay, so we agree that testing nuclear warheads and missiles are a good thing.

So there's no problem with North Korea merely doing something which heaps of other countries have done.
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« Reply #124 on: August 31, 2017, 04:38:27 pm »

Ktj....."Okay, so we agree that testing nuclear warheads and missiles are a good thing."

...Yes...as long as they are adults, and can be trusted.....
.....So that probably eliminates North Korea and Iran ...😉
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