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« on: February 07, 2016, 03:43:23 pm »


Yep....an 11-year-old American kid who has learnt from American gun culture that you can solve any problem with a gun....



from The Washington Post....

11-year-old charged with murdering 8-year-old
after argument about puppies


By ELAHE IZADI | 4:44PM - Monday, October 05, 2015


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AN ARGUMENT between two children over puppies turned tragic Saturday when an 11-year-old boy killed his 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun, according to authorities in Jefferson County, Tennessee.

The 11-year-old has been charged with first-degree murder in the girl's death, Jefferson County Sheriff Bud McCoig told The Washington Post. Authorities aren't releasing the names of either child, but Latasha Dyer told ABC affiliate WATE that her daughter, McKayla, was killed.

“She was a precious little girl,” Dyer said through tears in an on-air interview with WATE. “She was a mommy's girl. No matter how bad of a mood you were in, she could always make you smile.”

Each of the children had a puppy, the sheriff said. The 11-year-old “wanted to see the 8-year-old's, and she said no, and then he went and retrieved a gun,” McCoig said.

The boy fired the 12-gauge shotgun from inside of his house, striking the girl as she stood in her yard, according to the sheriff. The gun, which was stored in a closet without locks, belonged to the boy's father, McCoig said.

When first responders and police arrived on the scene Saturday night, they found the girl “lying on the ground with a gunshot to the chest,” McCoig said. She was taken to an area hospital, where she died from her injuries.

On Monday, a judge ordered the boy to be held in a juvenile facility pending his next court hearing, on October 28th; the case could later be transferred to adult court, McCoig said.

Saturday's killing, which came just two days after a mass school shooting in rural Oregon, has rocked the small community of White Pine, Tennessee. Both children attended White Pine School, which teaches students from kindergarten through eighth grade, principal Bill Walker said.

“We remember her smile and her beautiful face,” Walker told reporters on Monday. “Our normal has changed.”

Dyer told Knoxville's WATE TV that she had previously approached the school principal about the 11-year-old bullying her daughter.

“When we first moved White Pine, the little boy was bullying McKayla. He was making fun of her, calling her names, just being mean to her,” Dyer said Sunday. “I had to go to the principal about him, and then he quit for awhile. And then all of a sudden yesterday, he shot her.”

Walker declined to confirm to reporters on Monday that Dyer talked to him about bullying, citing the ongoing investigation.

Counselors were at the school to support students and staff in the aftermath of the shooting.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with those involved from both families,” Walker said, according to WATE. “It's not just the school that's hurting; it's the whole community.”

McCoig said the killing has taken a toll on his investigators. “We only get through it by the grace of God,” he said.


• Elahe Izadi is a general assignment national reporter for The Washington Post.

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Read more on this topic:

 • Young people are far more likely to die by guns than in cars

 • Where in America do gun owners live?

 • How often do children in the U.S. unintentionally shoot and kill people? We don't know.

 • In 30 states, a child can still legally own a rifle or shotgun

 • Opinion: The access children have to guns is alarming


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/10/05/11-year-old-charged-with-murdering-8-year-old-after-arguing-about-puppies



Notice how God gets mentioned in a quote in the last sentence of that article?

Americans....and guns....and killing....and God.

Kinda sums Americans up, eh?




from The Washington Post....

11-year-old boy convicted of killing 8-year-old girl

By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 8:30PM EST - Friday, February 05, 2016

Shooting victim McKayla Dyer.
Shooting victim McKayla Dyer.

WHITE PINE, TENNESSEE — An 11-year-old boy in Tennessee has been found guilty of murdering an 8-year-old girl after she and her sister refused to let him see their puppies.

WATE-TV reports that Jefferson County Juvenile Court judge Dennis “Will” Roach II this week found the boy guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced him to state custody until he turns 19. The Associated Press does not generally identify juveniles accused of crimes.

In his order, which WATE posted online, Roach said the state should use all reasonable resources to determine why the boy shot the girl, and he should be treated and rehabilitated so this never happens again.

“A child who commits first-degree murder cannot be willy-nilly turned loose into society,” Roach wrote.

The boy is currently in detention and being evaluated as to where he should be placed, said Rob Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Children’s Services. “Like any other child who comes into custody, he would need a thorough assessment and evaluation to determine the best placement,” Johnson said. “At this time, it would likely be at an intensive treatment program at one of our private providers.” The boy has five siblings — three brothers and two sisters — who have been placed with relatives and the state, Johnson said.

The boy and 8-year-old McKayla Dyer lived in the same mobile home park in White Pine, Tennessee, about 40 miles outside of Knoxville. McKayla, her 11-year-old sister and another girl, also 11, were playing outside and talking to the boy while he was sitting at his bedroom window on October 3rd, 2015. He asked the sisters to go get their puppies, the judge's order says, and when they refused he went and got a 12-gauge shotgun and a BB gun and told the girls he had guns. According to the judge's description of the events, McKayla laughed at him and responded that the guns weren't real.

The boy “then made certain the gun was loaded, cocked the hammer on the gun and shot the victim just above the heart at a downward trajectory,” the judge wrote.

The girl fell backward, “quickly lost consciousness, and was later confirmed dead,” the judge wrote, adding that three witnesses saw McKayla within one minute after she was shot.

“The mother of the child knelt on the ground and picked her up, placing her child in her arms as she passed away.”

The boy had been trained in firearm safety and had hunted with his father and grandfather, the judge noted.


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 • 11-year-old charged with murdering 8-year-old after argument about puppies


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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 03:59:17 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 04:48:39 pm »


....speaking of children with guns...this guy is dangerous Shocked


New Zealand joins international chorus of condemnation against North Korea missile launch

 Foreign Minister Murray McCully: "North Korea's decision to conduct a launch, and the nuclear test they carried out on 6 January, are irresponsible and fly in the face of international opinion.
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New Zealand has condemned a suspected long-range missile test by North Korea, calling the action "irresponsible".

The reclusive state has claimed the rocket launch on Sunday was a satellite launch, but it's widely believed by the international community North Korea defied United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resoutions by testing a ballistic missile.

It follows North Korea's widely-disputed claim last month to have tested a hydrogen bomb.


North Korea launches rocket

Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully added to international condemnation, saying North Korea's actions were in direct contravention to the UNSC resolution demanding it "cease any launches using ballistic missile technology".


"North Korea's decision to conduct a launch, and the nuclear test they carried out on 6 January, are irresponsible and fly in the face of international opinion.

"New Zealand again calls on North Korea to refrain from actions which undermine peace and stability in the region."

New Zealand is serving a two-year term as a non-permanent member of the Security Council.

"We will work with other Security Council members on an appropriate response to the launch," McCully said.

The rocket flew over Okinawa, Japan, where it's been reported Patriot missiles had been stationed with orders to shoot it down if it threatened Japanese territory.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called the launch 'absolutely unacceptable', vowing to take action against North Korea, the Daily Mail reported.

'We absolutely cannot allow this. We will take action to totally protect the safety and well-being of our people,' he said.

South Korean President Park Geun-hye has called the launch an "unforgiveable act of provocation", urging further UN sanctions.

US Secretary of State John Kerry condemned the launch as a "flagrant violation" of Security Council resolutions and accused North Korea of a 'major provocation'.

He said he would work with the Security Council to install "significant measures" to hold North Korea to account.

The North has long held a goal of developing an arsenal of nuclear-armed long-range missiles.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said it was clear nuclear and missile programmes are necessary defence against what it calls "decades of US hostility".

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from The Washington Post....

3-year old picks up great grandpa's pistol
from nightstand, fatally shoots sister.


By SARAH KAPLAN | 1:40AM EST - Monday, February 08, 2016

Shooting victim Kimberly Reylander. — Photograph: Clare Huddleston/WBRC/Facebook.
Shooting victim Kimberly Reylander. — Photograph: Clare Huddleston/WBRC/Facebook.

THE PISTOL lay on the bedroom nightstand loaded and untouched. And then it was in the toddler's hands, pointed toward his older sister.

A moment later, Kimberly Reylander was on the floor, bleeding from a gunshot wound to her head. The adults rushed into the room.

“Her grandma was laying the towel on her head and laid down there and started praying, she was praying, I was praying, my wife was screaming and praying. Nobody knows how that feels until you experience it,” the girl's grandfather, Joel Watson, told WIAT.

The nine-year-old girl was flown by medical helicopter to Children's of Alabama Saturday, where she died of her injuries, according to AL.com.

Irondale, Alabama Police Chief Ken Atkinson told AL.com and WIAT that the children's great-grandfather had left the pistol on his nightstand on Saturday morning, not knowing that the kids were coming over. He wasn't home at the time of the shooting, but the kids' grandmother and uncle — whom police detectives are now interviewing — were, though they didn't know there was a gun in the room where the children were playing.

“It appears to be a tragic accident,” Atkinson said.

Local TV station WBRC reported that it doesn't seem any charges will be filed, citing Irondale Police.

Shootings by toddlers are tragically common. A Washington Post survey last fall found 43 instances in the first 10 months of 2015 in which someone had been shot by a child of three or younger. Fifteen of those shootings were fatal — most often for the toddlers themselves.

So far this year, at least four toddlers have accidentally fired a gun at themselves; one of them died from his injuries.

Kimberly is the fifth person to be hurt in an accidental shooting by a toddler since January 1st.

“Still in disbelief,” her maternal grandfather Rodney Watson told WBRC. “You know I've always had this thought that this could only happen to someone else, you know you only hear about these things, but when it hits home it's hard.”

He described Kimberly — or “Kimi”, as many in her family knew her — as a “precious angel”.

“She was a beautiful child, straight A student, she loved God, she loved singing at church,” he said.

The third grader had thoughtful eyes and a Mona Lisa-like half smile in her most recent school photo. Her obituary describes her as “Mommy and Daddy's little angel” and a gifted artist and a singer.

“She makes these clay figurines,” her great aunt Christy Watson told AL.com, holding up a tiny angel. The figure was about as big as the first knuckle of an adult's thumb, nimbly-made with wavy brown hair and tiny, white wings.

In a statement posted online on Sunday, Kimberly's former school mourned the girl who had been “a wonderfully bright and cheery presence.”

“[She] will be sorely missed,” it said.

Police received a 9-1-1 call about the shooting around 2:10 p.m. on Saturday, AL.com reported. The leafy, dead-end road where the family lived was blocked by police and emergency response vehicles on Saturday. And the incident left their neighbors reeling.

Chrissy Coblentz, who said she lives next-door to the children's great-grandparents, set up a crowdfunding page to help pay for the girl's funeral expenses.

“My children played with Kimi in our and her backyard every weekend, rode the same school bus, and celebrated birthdays together, she wrote. “We are shocked at this loss of this young life.”

The little girl's funeral will be held this week. Her death is still under investigation, Atkinson told AL.com, adding a warning for owners of guns:

“The lesson is you have to make sure those weapons are put up, out of sight and out of reach, really of anyone, but especially children,” he said. “It is tragic because this 3-year-old has no idea what is going on right now. It is just a horrible situation.”


• Sarah Kaplan is a reporter for The Washington Post's Morning Mix.

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Read more on this topic:

 • People are getting shot by toddlers on a weekly basis this year

 • Senate Democrats want to know why American toddlers keep shooting people

 • North Carolina 3-year-old finds gun in dad's store, fatally shoots himself]


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lucky that kid was armed because the robbers were
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 08:37:57 am »

lucky that kid was armed because the robbers were
Exactly.
For every case of wrongful or mistaken use of a firearm. there are many righteous shootings - You know? The ones that don't sell newspapers?
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 04:56:40 pm »

Is it that difficult to continue this discussion in the Biffo Room where you and Reality can 'discuss' or 'debate' the subject to your hearts content?

I guess bigots just can't help themselves when they have such a deep rooted hatred for a group of people they have to take every opportunity to vent.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2016, 12:07:50 pm »


from The Washington Post....

‘My 4-year-old gets jacked up to target shoot,’
mom brags hours before he shoots her


By PETER HOLLEY | 2:49PM EST - Wednesday, March 09, 2016



HOURS after gun-rights advocate Jamie Gilt bragged on Facebook that her 4-year-old son “gets jacked up to target shoot,” the same child accidentally turned his mother into a target, shooting her in the back.

The 31-year-old Jacksonville woman was driving down a road in Putnam County, Florida, on Tuesday when her son managed to get hold of a gun while he was sitting in the back seat of the vehicle, according to a statement released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Department.

Officials told the Florida Times-Union that the child fired a .45-caliber handgun that he found on the truck's floor into the driver's seat.

“She was shot through the seat and the round went through her back,” Sheriff's Captain Joseph Wells told the Times-Union. “There was a booster seat in the back of the vehicle, but, however, the boy was not strapped in when the deputy got to them.”



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Gilt — who was towing a horse trailer when the incident occurred — was on her way to a relative's home to pick up a horse, police said.

Her vehicle was spotted by a sheriff's deputy who was driving by and noticed Gilt in the driver's seat “motioning to him as if she needed assistance,” according to police. After approaching the vehicle, the deputy realized that Gilt had been shot.

“The deputy provided first aid until the arrival of paramedics,” the statement said. “The victim was transported to University of Florida Health in Gainesville and was last reported to be in stable condition. The only other occupant of the vehicle was the victim's 4-year-old son, who was unharmed.”

Before she went into the emergency room, the statement notes, Gilt told police that she'd been shot by her son.

The boy was returned to his family, who met with members of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office Victim Services Specialists, police said. The Florida Department of Children and Family Services was also notified, and police are investigating how the child got hold of the gun and whether the incident warrants criminal charges.

Under Florida law, “it a misdemeanor for a person to store or leave, on a premise under his or her control, a loaded firearm in such a manner that it is likely a child can gain access to the firearm.”

“Those questions center around how is the firearm secured?,” Wells told WJXT. “Where was it carried in the vehicle? And exactly how did the young boy come in possession of the firearm?”

A woman answering the telephone at Gilt's home refused to comment and hung up.

Gilt's social media presence is filled with pro-gun messages, Second Amendment memes and posts supporting the NRA, as well as photos of her posing with weapons.

She appears to maintain a Facebook page called “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense”, which has since been inundated by people criticizing her passion for weapons in light of being shot by her son.

The page includes numerous posts asserting that the government plans to confiscate American citizens' weapons.

Last year, Gilt shared a photo of a gun on Twitter that she described as her “new toy”.



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• Peter Holley is a general assignment reporter at The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/09/my-4-year-old-gets-jacked-up-to-target-shoot-gun-loving-mom-brags-hours-before-her-little-boy-shoots-her
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She appears to maintain a Facebook page called “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense”, which has since been inundated by people criticizing her passion for weapons in light of being shot by her son.


Oh dear....the Facebook page has now been locked up. I guess somebody must be feeling totally STUPID about their lack of Gun Sense, eh? 
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 08:15:56 pm »

You can add NZ to your list now of Nationalities, thanks to the knob shooting up four officers. Thought you would have been all over that and already posted about it. Guess maybe if it happened in America or a John Key supporter then I would say your bias would go into overdrive and we would all have to put up with more of your rants.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2016, 10:35:49 pm »


from The Washington Post....

Prince George's mourns firefighter as
police continue shooting investigation


By FENIT NIRAPPIL, RACHEL WEINER and LORI ARATANI | 9:05PM EDT - Saturday, April 16, 2016



JOHN E. ULMSCHNEIDER always wanted to be the first firefighter at the scene in an emergency. On Friday, his desire to help cost him his life.

Ulmschneider was among the Prince George's County rescuers who rushed to a Temple Hills-Camp Springs-area house after a call from a man who had been unable to reach his diabetic brother. The caller told firefighters that he feared his brother had suffered a blackout or seizure.

When knocks on the door went unanswered and there was no response as rescuers announced that they were outside, the emergency workers decided to break through the door, officials said. As they did, gunshots erupted from inside, mortally wounding Ulmschneider and injuring another firefighter and the man’s brother.

Authorities said Saturday that they are still working to determine why the 61-year-old man allegedly opened fire. But a county fire spokesman said it may have been a tragic mistake — the man possibly thought that the rescuers were intruders seeking to break into his house.

The man was released from police custody on Saturday evening, officials said, and no charges have been filed. Officials did not say whether the man had suffered a medical emergency.

As police continued their investigation, family members and colleagues mourned the death of the one firefighter and prayed for the recovery of the other. At Ulmschneider's station in Landover Hills, they draped black bunting over the firehouse and along the hood of an ambulance parked on the lawn.

Ulmschneider, who had been in the department for 13 years, was a husband and the father of a 2-year-old girl, officials said. The 37-year-old went by the nickname — “Skillet” and had decided in high school that he would become a firefighter.

“He wanted to help others,” said Diana Krieger, whose daughter is married to Ulmschneider's brother. “He loved doing what he was doing, being a paramedic and a firefighter, and I really believe that he was doing God's work.”

Authorities identified the wounded firefighter as Kevin Swain, 19, a volunteer at the Morningside station. They said he had been shot four times and underwent surgery at Maryland Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore. He is expected to survive, they said.

The injured brother was shot in the shoulder and was listed in fair condition at a local hospital, officials said. They did not identify either brother by name.

The incident began about 7:30 p.m. Friday when firefighters and medics arrived at the home, said Mark Brady, a spokesman for the county department. The occupant's brother was outside with them, he said, and the rescuers announced themselves loudly three times and knocked repeatedly.

Brady said the rescuers made the decision not to wait for police to arrive because they “felt compelled that there could be a medical emergency going on” and “had to enter the house as soon as possible.”

There is no set protocol governing when responders will enter a residence by force, he said. Rather, the decision is based on individual circumstances.

After the shooting, Brady said, the man inside the home quickly surrendered to police. Two additional volunteer firefighters were injured as they sought cover during the shooting, he said. One suffered a knee injury, and the other hurt her jaw.

On Saturday morning, officers had blocked off the home with police tape. There were two Prince George's forensic services vans parked across the street and a police car parked in the driveway. The front and garage doors were open as investigators worked inside. The block of mostly ranch houses was quiet.

Jose Zuniga, who lives down the street, said he was on his porch Friday evening watching his young son and two grandchildren play soccer on the front lawn when he noticed an ambulance and fire emergency vehicle pull up.

The 52-year-old man, speaking in Spanish with his daughter as an interpreter, said he figured that it was a small house fire and thought nothing of it until he started hearing a smashing noise against the home's front door. Soon after, he heard gunshots and saw first responders leap into the bushes outside the door.

He ushered the children — ages 3, 10 and 13 — inside. He recalled thinking that it took a while for police to arrive.

“It's the first time anything like this happened” in his 11 years on the block, he said.

The Zunigas said that they didn’t know who lived in the house but that it was a man. Another neighbor said the occupant had been there about seven years and lived by himself.

Brady said Ulmschneider was always the first person to step up to get a job done, so it wasn't surprising to anyone that he was one of the first ones at the door that evening.

“He was extremely dedicated to service. He was a hard-working country boy,” Brady said. Firefighters would joke that Skillet had such a hard head, he said, “he could take a knock and keep on working.”

As a teenager, Ulmschneider worked at Miller Farms in Prince George's County and continued to help out between fire shifts, said Richard Miller, a member of the family that owns the farm.

Miller said that Ulmschneider met his wife, Dawn, at the farm. Her father also was a firefighter, and her mother is a distant relative of state Senator Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. (Democrat-Calvert), president of the Maryland Senate.

He explained how Ulmschneider, who lived in St. Mary's County, earned his nickname: When Ulmschneider was a teenager, he drove a dirt bike off a hill near the farm, trying to do a trick — and fell off and hit his head. When he was in the hospital with stitches and a red face, they all joked that he looked like a skillet.

“The guy was never tired of helping you out. He would work all day at the fire department then would come by here,” Miller said. Ulmschneider was “someone who could fix and do anything around the farm as far as working on tractors, trucks… He always had a smile on his face, and if you were down, he would be the one who would get you back up.”

Clarence Godfrey, a retired county paramedic, also had fond memories of Ulmschneider. “He was hard-working and dedicated,” said Godfrey, who lives in Upper Marlboro. “He was very humble and funny.”

Godfrey said Ulmschneider worked at several fire departments to pick up overtime. On Friday night, fire officials said, Ulmschneider was on assignment with the Forestville Fire/EMS station, but he typically worked at the Landover Hills Fire/EMS station.

In a statement, Prince George's County Executive Rushern L. Baker III called Ulmschneider “a dependable family man who loved serving this county as both a firefighter and paramedic.”

Andrew Pantelis, president of the Prince George's County Professional Fire Fighters and Paramedics Association Local 1619, said in a statement, “This is a day that we have all dreaded in our minds.”

“We are keenly aware of the dangers of our profession but we all have hoped that God would continue to look over and protect us,” he wrote. “Now that tragedy has stricken us, we must not fall apart but stand strong and band together to support Skillet’s family and those who are closest to him.”


Lynh Bui and Hamil H. Harris contributed to this report.

• Rachel Weiner covers local politics for The Washington Post.

• Lori Aratani writes about how people live, work and play in the D.C. region for The Washington Post's Transportation and Development team.

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someone has a fixation about death do you have a deadman's switch on your train
incase you kark it lol

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Per Year   56,000,000
Per Month   4,679,452.00
Per Day   153,424.70
Per Hour   6,392.70
Per Minute   106.60
Per Second   1.80


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someone has a fixation about death do you have a deadman's switch on your train
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Per Year   56,000,000
Per Month   4,679,452.00
Per Day   153,424.70
Per Hour   6,392.70
Per Minute   106.60
Per Second   1.80


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from The Washington Post....

Toddlers have shot at least 23 people this year

By CHRISTOPHER INGRAHAM | Sunday, May 01, 2016



THIS past week, a Milwaukee toddler fatally shot his mother after finding a handgun in the back seat of the car they were riding in. The case drew a lot of national attention given the unusual circumstances: Little kids rarely kill people, intentionally or not.

But this type of thing happens more often than you might think. Since April 20th, there have been at least seven instances in which a 1-, 2-, or 3-year-old shot themselves or somebody else in the United States:







  • That same day, a 3-year-old boy in Grout Township, Michigan, shot himself in the arm with a gun he found at home. He is expected to survive.


Last year, a Washington Post analysis found that toddlers were finding guns and shooting people at a rate of about one a week. This year, that pace has accelerated. There have been at least 23 toddler-involved shootings since January 1st, compared with 18 over the same period last year.

In the vast majority of cases, the children accidentally shoot themselves. That's happened 18 times this year, and in nine of those cases the children died of their wounds.

Toddlers have shot other people five times this year. Two of those cases were fatal: this week's incident in Milwaukee, and that of a 3-year-old Alabama boy who fatally shot his 9-year-old brother in February.

These numbers represent only a small fraction of gun violence involving children. For instance, the pro-gun-control group Everytown for Gun Safety has found at least 77 instances this year in which a child younger than 18 has accidentally shot someone. And there is a whole different universe of gun violence in which toddlers are shot, intentionally or not, by adults.

Looking at a map of where toddlers are pulling the trigger, some states stand out sharply.




Georgia is home to the highest number of toddler shootings, with at least eight incidents since January 2015. Texas and Missouri are tied for second place with seven shootings each, while Florida and Michigan are tied for fourth, with six shootings apiece.

You might think that toddler shootings are simply a function of population — the more people who live in an area, the more toddlers are likely to shoot someone. But that doesn't appear to be wholly the case. California and New York are two high-population states that have seen only three toddler shootings between them since 2015.

And Illinois, home to infamously high rates of gun violence in Chicago, has not seen a single toddler shooting since 2015.

This suggests that other factors may be at play in the states that see disproportionately high numbers of shootings by toddlers. Missouri and Georgia, for instance, have fairly lax laws regulating how guns are stored to prevent child access. On the other hand, New York has no such child access laws in place, yet only one toddler has shot someone there since 2015.

Perhaps other factors are at play as well. There could be cultural factors — norms surrounding gun use and ownership, for instance — that may make these shootings more likely in some areas than in others.

Sussing out cause and effect in these cases, in other words, is still largely a guessing game. And it's a game made much more difficult by Congress's efforts to restrict the type of gun research that agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are allowed to conduct.

Until 2004, for instance, the CDC routinely asked Americans about whether they stored guns at home, and whether they made a habit of locking them up. That's no longer the case.


• Christopher Ingraham writes about politics, drug policy and all things data for The Washington Post. He previously worked at the Brookings Institution and the Pew Research Center.

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Read more on this topic:

 • Guns are now killing as many people as cars do in the U.S.

 • In the past five years, at least six Americans have been shot by dogs

 • One map shows why America's gun violence is so much worse than anywhere else

 • Where guns used in crimes come from


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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2016, 04:17:41 pm »

good job that will teach people to stop leaving loaded guns around their children

if they are dead they won't do that again


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from The Washington Post....

Editorial: The gun debate America needs to have

By The Washington Post Editorial Board | 7:43PM EDT - Monday, May 23, 2016

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. — Photographs: Getty Images and Reuters.
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. — Photographs: Getty Images and Reuters.

DONALD TRUMP appeared on Friday before the National Rifle Association and promised to roll back gun restrictions if elected president. The next day, Hillary Clinton stood before a group of mothers who have lost children or other relatives to gun violence and vowed to fight for stricter gun control. The back-to-back speeches by the presumptive Republican nominee and his likely Democratic opponent signal the prominent role that gun issues may play in the presidential election. That would be a welcome contrast to the recent past, when the critical matter of gun violence — and how to combat it — was missing in action from national election debates.

Ms. Clinton has highlighted her disagreement with Senator Bernie Sanders (Independent-Vermont) over gun policy in their primary battle. Traditionally, Democrats running for office tread gingerly on the issue so as not to rile the NRA, but Ms. Clinton seems eager to take on the powerful organization. “Unlike Donald Trump, I will not pander to the gun lobby,” she said on Saturday, after the NRA had endorsed Mr. Trump.

The NRA's earlier-than-normal backing — further evidence of the prominence that gun control promises to have this fall — came despite Mr. Trump's highly changeable positions on gun laws. In 2000, he backed a ban on assault weapons and longer waiting periods to purchase firearms. After the 2012 slaughter of schoolchildren at Sandy Hook, he lauded the president's call for gun reform, saying Mr. Obama “spoke for me and every American.”

That is no longer operative, apparently. In his speech to the NRA, Mr. Trump sought to confirm his gun-toting credentials, wrongly depicted Ms. Clinton as wanting to abolish the Second Amendment and vowed to get rid of gun-free school zones. Of course, as tends to happen with Mr. Trump, there was incoherence in his proposed policies, as evident in his remarkable attempt to parse his comments on guns in schools. “I don't want to have guns in classrooms, although in some cases teachers should have guns in classrooms, frankly, because teachers are, you know, things that are going on in our schools are unbelievable” — that is just part of what he said less than 24 hours after calling for elimination of gun-free school zones.

What should not get lost in trying to make sense of the senseless is how much the nation has lost by avoiding serious debate on this issue for so long. Some 33,000 Americans each year are killed by guns. This year the statistics will include the 5-year-old girl who shot herself over the weekend when she picked up her father’s gun; last year, the 56-year-old man caught in the crossfire when he stopped to get cigarettes at an Elks Lodge in Cincinnati. Gun violence is a public-health crisis. If we actually debate ways to manufacture a gun, say, that a 5-year-old can't accidentally fire, many lives might be saved.


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Read more on this topic:

 • The Washington Post's View: Gun violence in America is out of control

 • The Washington Post's View: A depressingly endless loop of mass shootings

 • Paul Waldman: Donald Trump's corrupt bargain on guns

 • Colbert I. King: Why is America so hostile to gun control?


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only gang bangers should have guns right lol

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