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Why Americans are too “stupid” to be allowed access to guns


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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2019, 09:51:32 pm »


Click on this excellent cartoon from David Horsey to read what it is about…



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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2019, 09:37:10 am »

its about left wing hate
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2019, 02:25:45 pm »


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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2019, 05:43:42 pm »


from the print edition of the Los Angeles Times…

A house full of firepower

In a Bel-Air mansion with ties to the Gettys, federal and local authorities discover a hoarder's paradise of weapons.

By HANNAH FRY, SONJA SHARP, RICHARD WINTON and MARIA L. LA GANGA | Friday, May 10, 2019

Investigators from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the LAPD inspect a cache of weapons seized from a Bel-Air mansion. The sheer number of guns unnerved neighbors. — Photograph: KCBS/KCAL.
Investigators from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the LAPD inspect a cache of weapons seized from a Bel-Air mansion.
The sheer number of guns unnerved neighbors. — Photograph: KCBS/KCAL.


THE SCENE was straight out of a B movie: Run-down mansion. Tony neighborhood. Anonymous tip. The whiff of celebrity. And a jaw-droppingly large cache of weapons, some of questionable legality.

Investigators with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives descended on the tatty Bel-Air mansion along with members of the Los Angeles Police Department in the early morning darkness.

What they found there on Wednesday was both lethal and perplexing. The sprawling white clapboard house — two stories, five bedrooms, hidden behind a discolored gate and a tall hedge — was in complete disarray. Guns were everywhere in what authorities described as a hoarder's paradise in the 100 block of North Beverly Glen.

There were AR-15 military-style automatic rifles, what appeared to be a World War II-era Thompson submachine gun, .44-caliber handguns, .357 magnum revolvers, long guns with intricately carved stocks, an Uzi 9-millimeter submachine gun — complete with silencer — and a 9-millimeter Luger pistol.

More than 1,000 firearms in all. It would take 30 law enforcement personnel more than a dozen hours to clear the house and remove the weapons, along with gun parts and boxes of ammunition. The weapons were arrayed in long lines on white blankets on the property’s winding driveway on Wednesday, a jumble of metal and wood.

Once authorities cataloged the stockpile, the guns were loaded into a large box truck and driven off the property. The weapons will be booked into evidence, said Lieutenant Chris Ramirez, an LAPD spokesman.

“This is a big stash,” Ramirez told reporters at the scene. “It's beyond comprehension that somebody can have so many weapons in a residence like this, in a neighborhood like this.”

That somebody is alleged to be 57-year-old Girard Saenz, who was inside the home at the time of the raid. He was arrested on suspicion of violating California's law regarding assault weapons and .50-caliber Browning machine guns. The law prohibits the manufacture, distribution, transportation, importation and sale of such guns except in specific circumstances.

As authorities investigated on Wednesday evening, vans rumbled by full of tourists headed to see the nearby Playboy Mansion and other homes owned by wealthy Los Angeles A-listers. Jay-Z and Beyoncé live in a mansion less than a mile from the scene.

But Saenz — who authorities allege was selling weapons from the Bel-Air home — has a much stronger connection to the rich and famous than simply living near the hip-hop power couple.

He was identified in court records as the long-time companion of Los Angeles real estate mogul Cynthia Beck. Public records show the Bel-Air property is owned by Beck, who has three daughters with J. Paul Getty's son Gordon Getty. Getty is an heir to the Getty Oil fortune and an international patron of the arts.


It took 30 law enforcement personnel more than 12 hours to clear the house and remove the weapons, along with gun parts and ammunition. — Photograph: Los Angeles Police Department.
It took 30 law enforcement personnel more than 12 hours to clear the house and remove the weapons, along with gun parts and ammunition.
 — Photograph: Los Angeles Police Department.


Beck was thrust into the spotlight in 1999, when the girls filed a petition in Los Angeles Superior Court to change their surname from Beck to the far more glamorous Getty. At the time, there also were negotiations over the possibility of future inheritance.

Getty, who had a wife and four grown sons in San Francisco, publicly acknowledged his double life, which had been an open secret in certain glitzy Bay Area circles. Tongues wagged.

As one local columnist cracked at the time: “If only San Francisco's high society had been hired to guard the United States' nuclear weapons secrets, the ones that have steadily leaked out to the Chinese.”

Getty also was a father figure, business partner and political donor to none other than Governor Gavin Newsom, who, as a teenager, went on an African safari with the oil scion and his wife, Ann.

Beck bought the house in January 2001, but it remains unclear what, if any, connection she has to Wednesday's events or if she lives at the home. In more recent years, she has accumulated a trove of property in Los Angeles and San Francisco, some of which she owns with Saenz, according to public records.

She could not be reached for comment on Thursday.

Authorities launched their investigation into the weapons cache after they received an anonymous tip that someone was manufacturing and selling guns at the home.

The ATF said in a statement that its agents searched the house after discovering Saenz was illegally selling firearms outside the scope of the federal license he possesses. Law enforcement has not specified how Saenz was allegedly selling the weapons.

Saenz posted a $50,000 bond and was released from custody shortly after 9 a.m. on Thursday. He could not be reached for comment.

He has been a licensed general building contractor since 1994 and operates a business that he started in the early 1990s in San Diego called Gerry Saenz and Associates, according to public records. Archives from a local newspaper in Coronado from 1993 note that the business specialized in architectural environmental lighting and landscape design.

Saenz was arrested at a Malibu home in September 2017 on suspicion of brandishing a firearm. But those involved told deputies they did not want to pursue the matter, according to a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department spokesman. Saenz was released within a few hours of being detained. No charges were filed.


Girard Saenz, 57, who was inside the home at the time of the raid, was arrested on suspicion of violating California's law regarding assault weapons. — Photograph: Allen J. Schaben/Los Angeles Times.
Girard Saenz, 57, who was inside the home at the time of the raid, was arrested on suspicion of violating California's law regarding assault weapons.
 — Photograph: Allen J. Schaben/Los Angeles Times.


Saenz's current business address is a property on North Bunker Hill Avenue in Los Angeles that he owns with Beck. The home was one of several locations that were searched by authorities on Wednesday, law enforcement sources not authorized to speak publicly told the Los Angeles Times.

Public records indicate Saenz lived in the San Diego area with his ex-wife in the early 1990s and eventually moved to Los Angeles.

Neighbors say the home where he was arrested is normally quiet.

“I was talking to my neighbors — nobody knows who he is,” said resident Nicole DiGiorgio, a Queens native who is among the few pedestrians to brave the sidewalk-less streets in the neighborhood. “I walk up and down here all the time, I never see anyone come in or out.”

On Thursday, Bel-Air bustled with housekeepers, gardeners and maintenance staff tending to the clay tennis courts and tangled private jungles that dot the enclave. Drivers slowed as they passed the Beverly Glen home to snap photos to show their friends on FaceTime.

Experts say it's not illegal for someone to possess a massive cache of weapons. But the person must comply with state and federal laws regarding firearms, said Steve Cooley, a former L.A. County district attorney.

Still, the amount of firepower stored in the house unnerved some neighbors.

“It's scary, because you think it's a safe place, especially this area,” said Christian Aleman, a carpenter who parks across the street from the home and walks to a nearby job site. He said he never saw anyone come or go from the house, but he worried for the children who played at a park down the street.

“There's a lot of kids playing in this park,” Aleman said. “Always, all the time, right across from this house.”


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Los Angeles Times staff writers Alejandra Reyes-Velarde, Jaclyn Cosgrove and Alexa Díaz contributed to this report.

• Hannah Fry is a Metro reporter for the Los Angeles Times covering breaking news in California. She joined Times Community News in Orange County in 2013 where she covered education, Newport Beach city hall, crime and courts. She is a native of Orange County and attended Chapman University, where she was the editor-in-chief of the college newspaper, the Panther.

• Sonja Sharp covers the Westside for the Los Angeles Times. Before joining the newsrooom in 2019, she worked as an NYPD-credentialed member of the New York City press corps, writing stranger-than-fiction stories of crime and culture for VICE, The Wall Street Journal and the Village Voice, among others. She is a Bay Area native, a graduate of UC Berkeley and Columbia, and a proud Jewish mother.

• Richard Winton is a crime writer for the Los Angeles Times and part of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service in 2011. Known as @lacrimes on Twitter, during 20 years at the L.A. Times he also has been part of the breaking news staff that won Pulitzers in 1998 and 2004. He won the ASNE Deadline News award in 2006. A native of England, after getting degrees from University of Kent at Canterbury and University of Wisconsin-Madison, he began covering politics but chose a life of crime because it was less dirty.

• Maria L. La Ganga is a Metro reporter for the Los Angeles Times. She joined the L.A. Times in 1981 as an academic intern, splitting her time between the former Metro section and National Dragster, the official publication of the National Hot Rod Association. She has served as Seattle bureau chief, San Francisco bureau chief, edited in the Business section and pitched in on six presidential elections, five for the L.A. Times and one for The Guardian. La Ganga left the Los Angeles Times in 2015 and returned in 2018 after a brief hiatus during which she wrote for The Guardian and the Idaho Statesman.

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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2019, 08:03:25 pm »

gee he really loved his guns Grin
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2019, 12:46:57 am »


from The Washington Post…

More Americans were shot to death by March 6 this year than died on D-Day



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