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« on: February 07, 2016, 12:36:01 pm »


Yep....an 11-year-old American kid who has learnt from American gun culture that you can solve any problem with a gun....



from The Washington Post....

11-year-old charged with murdering 8-year-old
after argument about puppies


By ELAHE IZADI | 4:44PM - Monday, October 05, 2015


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AN ARGUMENT between two children over puppies turned tragic Saturday when an 11-year-old boy killed his 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun, according to authorities in Jefferson County, Tennessee.

The 11-year-old has been charged with first-degree murder in the girl's death, Jefferson County Sheriff Bud McCoig told The Washington Post. Authorities aren't releasing the names of either child, but Latasha Dyer told ABC affiliate WATE that her daughter, McKayla, was killed.

“She was a precious little girl,” Dyer said through tears in an on-air interview with WATE. “She was a mommy's girl. No matter how bad of a mood you were in, she could always make you smile.”

Each of the children had a puppy, the sheriff said. The 11-year-old “wanted to see the 8-year-old's, and she said no, and then he went and retrieved a gun,” McCoig said.

The boy fired the 12-gauge shotgun from inside of his house, striking the girl as she stood in her yard, according to the sheriff. The gun, which was stored in a closet without locks, belonged to the boy's father, McCoig said.

When first responders and police arrived on the scene Saturday night, they found the girl “lying on the ground with a gunshot to the chest,” McCoig said. She was taken to an area hospital, where she died from her injuries.

On Monday, a judge ordered the boy to be held in a juvenile facility pending his next court hearing, on October 28th; the case could later be transferred to adult court, McCoig said.

Saturday's killing, which came just two days after a mass school shooting in rural Oregon, has rocked the small community of White Pine, Tennessee. Both children attended White Pine School, which teaches students from kindergarten through eighth grade, principal Bill Walker said.

“We remember her smile and her beautiful face,” Walker told reporters on Monday. “Our normal has changed.”

Dyer told Knoxville's WATE TV that she had previously approached the school principal about the 11-year-old bullying her daughter.

“When we first moved White Pine, the little boy was bullying McKayla. He was making fun of her, calling her names, just being mean to her,” Dyer said Sunday. “I had to go to the principal about him, and then he quit for awhile. And then all of a sudden yesterday, he shot her.”

Walker declined to confirm to reporters on Monday that Dyer talked to him about bullying, citing the ongoing investigation.

Counselors were at the school to support students and staff in the aftermath of the shooting.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with those involved from both families,” Walker said, according to WATE. “It's not just the school that's hurting; it's the whole community.”

McCoig said the killing has taken a toll on his investigators. “We only get through it by the grace of God,” he said.


• Elahe Izadi is a general assignment national reporter for The Washington Post.

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Read more on this topic:

 • Young people are far more likely to die by guns than in cars

 • Where in America do gun owners live?

 • How often do children in the U.S. unintentionally shoot and kill people? We don't know.

 • In 30 states, a child can still legally own a rifle or shotgun

 • Opinion: The access children have to guns is alarming


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/10/05/11-year-old-charged-with-murdering-8-year-old-after-arguing-about-puppies



Notice how God gets mentioned in a quote in the last sentence of that article?

Americans....and guns....and killing....and God.

Kinda sums Americans up, eh?




from The Washington Post....

11-year-old boy convicted of killing 8-year-old girl

By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 8:30PM EST - Friday, February 05, 2016

Shooting victim McKayla Dyer.
Shooting victim McKayla Dyer.

WHITE PINE, TENNESSEE — An 11-year-old boy in Tennessee has been found guilty of murdering an 8-year-old girl after she and her sister refused to let him see their puppies.

WATE-TV reports that Jefferson County Juvenile Court judge Dennis “Will” Roach II this week found the boy guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced him to state custody until he turns 19. The Associated Press does not generally identify juveniles accused of crimes.

In his order, which WATE posted online, Roach said the state should use all reasonable resources to determine why the boy shot the girl, and he should be treated and rehabilitated so this never happens again.

“A child who commits first-degree murder cannot be willy-nilly turned loose into society,” Roach wrote.

The boy is currently in detention and being evaluated as to where he should be placed, said Rob Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Children’s Services. “Like any other child who comes into custody, he would need a thorough assessment and evaluation to determine the best placement,” Johnson said. “At this time, it would likely be at an intensive treatment program at one of our private providers.” The boy has five siblings — three brothers and two sisters — who have been placed with relatives and the state, Johnson said.

The boy and 8-year-old McKayla Dyer lived in the same mobile home park in White Pine, Tennessee, about 40 miles outside of Knoxville. McKayla, her 11-year-old sister and another girl, also 11, were playing outside and talking to the boy while he was sitting at his bedroom window on October 3rd, 2015. He asked the sisters to go get their puppies, the judge's order says, and when they refused he went and got a 12-gauge shotgun and a BB gun and told the girls he had guns. According to the judge's description of the events, McKayla laughed at him and responded that the guns weren't real.

The boy “then made certain the gun was loaded, cocked the hammer on the gun and shot the victim just above the heart at a downward trajectory,” the judge wrote.

The girl fell backward, “quickly lost consciousness, and was later confirmed dead,” the judge wrote, adding that three witnesses saw McKayla within one minute after she was shot.

“The mother of the child knelt on the ground and picked her up, placing her child in her arms as she passed away.”

The boy had been trained in firearm safety and had hunted with his father and grandfather, the judge noted.


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 • 11-year-old charged with murdering 8-year-old after argument about puppies


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/11-year-old-boy-convicted-of-killing-8-year-old-girl/2016/02/05/79ab7eac-cc6f-11e5-b9ab-26591104bb19_story.html
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 01:22:34 pm »

...speaking of kids with lethal weapons... Shocked......time for regime change😉


North Korea fires long-range rocket seen as covert missile test
 
North Korea says this is a peaceful satellite launch.

North Korea on Sunday defied international warnings and launched a long-range rocket that the United Nations and others call a cover for a banned test of technology for a missile that could strike the US mainland.

The launch, which South Korean officials confirmed about two hours after an eight-day launch window opened Sunday morning, follows North Korea's widely-disputed claim last month to have tested a hydrogen bomb.

It will be considered a further provocation by Washington and its allies and likely draw more sanctions and condemnation from the United Nations.

Rocket and nuclear tests are seen as crucial steps toward the North's ultimate goal of a nuclear armed long-range missile arsenal. North Korea says its nuclear and missile programs are necessary to defend itself against what it calls decades of US hostility.

Leader Kim Jong Un has overseen two of the North's four nuclear tests and three long-range rocket tests since taking over after the death of his father, dictator Kim Jong Il, in late 2011. North Korea says its rocket launches are satellite missions, but the US, South Korea and others say they are a covert test of ballistic missile technology.

The UN Security Council prohibits North Korea from nuclear and ballistic missile activity.

The Jan 6 nuclear test has led to another push in the UN to tighten sanctions. North Korea in 2013 also did a nuclear test and then unnerved the international community by orchestrating an escalating campaign of bombast, including threats to fire nuclear missiles at the US and Seoul.

The Korean border is the world's most heavily armed and the rivals' navies occasionally trade gunfire near a disputed boundary in the Yellow Sea.

North Korea has spent decades trying to develop operational nuclear weapons.

It is thought to have a small arsenal of atomic bombs and an impressive array of short- and medium-range missiles. But it has yet to demonstrate that it can produce nuclear bombs small enough to place on a missile, or missiles that can reliably deliver their bombs to faraway targets.

Still, the North's nuclear tests and steadily improving long-range rocket launches push its nuclear aims further along.

North Korea has said that plutonium and highly enriched uranium facilities at its main Nyongbyon nuclear complex are in operation.

 - AP
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 01:30:17 pm »


Hahaha.....notice how whenever reality has his mind disturbed by REAL reality (as opposed to the lack of reality world he inhabits), he immediately carries out a diversionary tactic, such as attempting to change the topic to North Korea (which is about as opposite to the USA as you could get, apart from the fact they are both police states)....just like his hero John Key and the Nats and their “change the flag as a diversionary tactic wankfest!”

Talk about being the group's clown....

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 01:48:42 pm »

Shifted due to racist title
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 02:11:15 pm »

Shifted due to racist title


Americans........are a nationality........not a race.

Now if you had said “Shifted due to nationalitist title” then you would be correct.

If I had used the title Why Niggers are too “stupid” to be allowed access to guns then THAT would have been racist.

Perhaps I might repost the thread and give it the title Why WHITE Americans are too “stupid” to be allowed access to guns, then you really WILL have something to whinge about.

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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 02:14:04 pm »

Ir doesn't matter. If you want to generalise whether it be against an entire race or nation then expext this action. Now get back in your box.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2016, 02:52:57 pm »


life can be tough in the trailer park

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2016, 04:24:04 pm »

Thanks Crusader. You have the backing of the other Moderators on this.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 12:38:40 am »

"Thanks Crusader. You have the backing of the other Moderators on this."

...yes you have my backing too....hes been doing it all day ref Wink
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 01:59:31 pm »


from the Los Angeles Times....

The gun lobby's latest scheme: make it easier to commit crimes quietly

“The SHARE Act would gut the existing regulatory system, making
gun silencers readily available without a background check.”


By PETER AMBLER | 4:00AM PDT - Wednesday, September 27, 2017

If passed, the SHARE Act would make silencers readily available without a background check through unlicensed sales at gun shows and on the internet.
If passed, the SHARE Act would make silencers readily available without a background check through unlicensed sales at gun shows and on the internet.

IN February 2013, Americans watched in horror as a disgruntled former Los Angeles police officer, Christopher Dorner, terrorized Southern California. Over nine days, Dorner killed four people and wounded three others during a mass manhunt.

As police investigated, they wondered why nearby residents weren't reporting the shots. It turned out that, in an effort to conceal his murders, Dorner was using a silencer, which distorts the sound of gunfire and masks the muzzle flash of a gun. (Silencers do not completely silence gunfire, as some Hollywood movies would have you believe.) In expert hands, say SEAL Team Six, silencers have been used to help covertly take down the likes of Osama bin Laden. But in the hands of criminals, like Christopher Dorner, they pose a serious threat to law enforcement and the communities they serve.

Now Congress is trying to sneak a measure into an unrelated bill that would make it easier for criminals to obtain this special equipment. The bill, the Sportsmen's Heritage and Recreational Enhancement (SHARE) Act, which will soon be voted on in the House of Representatives, would roll back an 80-year-old law that carefully regulates the sale of silencers.

Shortly after 1930, when 307 law enforcement officers were killed in a single year, Congress passed the National Firearms Act to help regulate some of our nation's most dangerous weapons, including machine guns and sawed-off shotguns. The bill also required gun owners to register their silencers, which has helped keep them in the hands of law-abiding gun owners and out of criminal activity.

The process for purchasing a silencer is relatively simple. Today, gun owners with a clean criminal record can get a silencer with less paperwork than buying a refrigerator, according to the makers of silencers.

If passed, the SHARE Act would gut the existing regulatory system, making silencers readily available without a background check through unlicensed sales at gun shows and on the Internet.

The SHARE Act would also make it harder for civilians and law enforcement to locate active shooters. Silencers degrade the effectiveness of gunshot detection technology that cities including San Francisco, Oakland and San Diego have deployed to reduce violence. When bullets start flying, seconds count. That's why it's so important for bystanders and law enforcement to be able to determine where they are coming from. This bill will only make it harder.

Perhaps even worse, the SHARE Act includes language that would allow the transfer of silencers across state lines and their sale to individuals as young as 18. Dealers would not have to report multiple purchases to law enforcement, even though multiple-sale reports are the primary intelligence tool that federal law enforcement uses to identify firearms trafficking organizations.

There are only two groups who will benefit from the deregulation of silencers: those who wish to inflict harm on our communities, and the corporate gun lobby, which stands to make a fortune.

Now that President Obama is no longer in office and gun sales have plummeted, gun lobbyists have been forced to look for new ways to generate revenue. With the average silencer costing about $1,000, it's not hard to see their motives. They've even teamed up with Donald Trump Jr. in the hopes that more silencers will help get “little kids into the game”. Yes, he actually said that. This bill isn't about public safety or sportsmanship; it's about profit.

The bill isn't just bad policy, it's bad politics, too. A new poll of 2018 voters in California swing districts found that an overwhelming majority — 76%, including 65% of Trump voters — are opposed to deregulating silencers. They are joined by law enforcement officials and gun-safety advocates across the country who believe that deregulating silencers would hurt public safety.

Although there's far more gun violence than Americans on either side of the aisle would like, the fate of this bill will be decided by Republicans in places like California. (Republicans in red states will vote in lockstep.) Seven Golden State Republicans currently represent districts won by Hillary Clinton. Voters in those districts don't share the extreme views of the gun lobby's leaders. They simply want reasonable policy that makes California communities safer.

In politics, elected officials are often faced with decisions that require them to choose between political expediency and the public interest. This is not one of those times. When it comes to deregulating silencers, the smart thing politically is to do the right thing.


• Peter Ambler is executive director of Americans for Responsible Solutions, the gun violence prevention organization founded by former U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-ambler-gun-silencers-20170927-story.html
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2017, 02:20:42 pm »

Yes...I agree....guns laws in NZ need to relaxed😉
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2017, 02:36:00 pm »


Does that include allowing criminals access to silencers as is about to occur in America?
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2017, 02:48:11 pm »

Yes...of course...if they have already paid their debt to society for all their previous convictions....it's human rights🙄
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2017, 04:08:58 pm »

Don't want to disturb the neighbours when fending off feral P/Ice/Meth crazed home invaders perhaps?
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2017, 04:09:08 pm »


Ah, so if a former criminal uses a silencer to hide the sound of firing a bullet into your missus' brain, then it will be alright, because they will have already paid their debt to society for all their previous convictions (human rights, you know), so it will be a fresh crime with no criminal history to be taken into account when they purchased the silencer.

Thank you for clarifying that situation so well.
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2017, 04:16:57 pm »

Think you'll find Donald was being sarcastic. Hence the rolled eyes.
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2017, 04:31:50 pm »


Nah, he was just being his usual STUPID self.

Haven't you yet worked out that Reality/Donald is a clown and an idiot? (as well as being a WANKER)
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2017, 04:41:38 pm »

Ktj...."Ah, so if a former criminal uses a silencer to hide the sound of firing a bullet into your missus' brain, then it will be alright..."

...well that would depend....which missus😜

...but no....but if it was your brain.....well where do I sign😉
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