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« Reply #225 on: October 06, 2016, 11:37:45 am »


from the Los Angeles Times....

Pence ably dodges in VP debate while Trump tweets tamely

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Wednesday, October 05, 2016



SOMETIME during the post-debate torrent of words gushing from the array of motor mouths on CNN, Fox and MSNBC, someone described vice presidential candidates Tim Kaine and Mike Pence as “able dodgers”. That phrase summed up the face-off between the running mates as well as anything.

Both men gave only passing notice to the questions posed by the moderator, CBS newswoman Elaine Quijano, as they dodged bullets and fired back like a pair of seasoned gunslingers. When it was all over, pundits faulted Kaine for his many interruptions and his rush to deliver as many memorized attack lines as he could in the first 15 minutes. Pence won praise for his calmer style and his ability to pivot from an uncomfortable question to a sharp assault on Clinton — for putting in a performance, in other words, that was far more disciplined than any Donald Trump has ever pulled off.

It did not go unnoticed, however, that Pence just plain ducked several times when confronted with the challenge of defending the man at the top of the Republican ticket. Unlike the odd squad of Trump surrogates, such as ex-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, Pence was not willing to spout a bizarre justification for Trump's every unhinged misstep.

Perhaps, Pence avoided looking like a total shill for the outlandish GOP standard bearer because has his own ambitions to protect. Before being picked as Trump's running mate, the Indiana governor was nearing a political dead end, but with this solid showing on the debate stage, his prospects are revived. Conservatives — especially those of the church-going variety — had to like what they saw: an articulate, antiabortion, washed-in-the-blood Christian man with a hard line on defense, terrorism and taxes. If anyone was the loser in this debate, it was Ted Cruz, the Texas senator who may have been eclipsed by Pence as the Republican Party's next great white hope.

And the winner? Pence did well for himself, but his easily disprovable assertions that Trump has not said all the crazy things that he has actually, verifiably said just gave the Clinton campaign a batch of talking points for the next several days. Kaine may have been more feisty than he needed to be, but he did pepper the exchange with reminders of Trump's vulnerabilities, in particular all the income taxes the billionaire hasn't paid.

Meanwhile, tracking the comments Trump was posting on his Twitter account during the debate seemed as important as following the action on the debate stage. Would the Donald send out a shrill tweet that would make everyone forget what either Pence or Kaine had to say? Would he self-sabotage again?

As it turned out, the tweet-addicted Trump was relatively restrained. “Wow, Kaine couldn't go 12 seconds without a lie,” he wrote. “Kaine looks like an evil crook out of the Batman movies,” he retweeted. But that was about as lively as it got.

Too bad it wasn't 3 A.M. and he wasn't alone. As we have come to learn, that is when he really lets his flying monkeys take to the sky.


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« Reply #226 on: October 06, 2016, 03:36:28 pm »


from The Washington Post....

Clinton debate prep is focused on what
happens once the debate is done


By ABBY PHILLIP | 7:58PM EDT - Wednesday, October 05, 2016

Pence, right, and Kaine spar during the vice-presidential debate. — Photograph: Steve Helber/Associated Press.
Pence, right, and Kaine spar during the vice-presidential debate. — Photograph: Steve Helber/Associated Press.

SENATOR TIM KAIN may have awakened on Wednesday to poor reviews after the first and only vice-presidential debate, but his acerbic performance in Farmville, Virginia, revealed that the Clinton campaign's strategy for these debates extends far beyond the stage.

Armed with pre-planned Web videos, television ads and tweets, the campaign has used key debate moments this week and last as a cudgel against the Republican ticket, showing a level of discipline and organization largely absent from Donald Trump and Indiana Governor Mike Pence's campaign.

“Kaine had a very clear and simple plan for the debate: remind a national televised audience of all of the offensive things Trump has said and done in this campaign,” said Dan Pfeiffer, a former senior adviser to President Obama. “The Clinton campaign was smart enough to know that who ‘wins’ or ‘loses’ the VP debate doesn't move votes. Instead it's an opportunity to communicate a message to a very large audience.”

“I don't see a single thing that Pence did that moved the needle for Trump in any way,” he added.

Both Hillary Clinton and her running mate showed up on their respective debate nights well rehearsed. At moments, they seemed over-rehearsed. At one point on Tuesday, Pence shot back at Kaine: “Did you work on that one a long time? Because that had a lot of really creative lines in it.”

But Clinton and Kaine had a larger goal in mind than winning the debates themselves: to create a series of compelling sound bites that they planned to weaponize for the reminder of the campaign. They logged scores of hours of preparation. They recited laundry lists of Trump's faults. Their clear objective: to record him and his running mate embracing, denying or evading controversial positions that Trump has taken in recorded speeches.

That pattern is likely to continue Sunday at the next presidential debate, Democrats said.

“[Pence] claimed over and over and over again — he claimed, ‘He never said those things!’” exclaimed conservative radio host Glenn Beck on Wednesday. “We're not living in the 1800s. We can go back to the clips on YouTube.”

And that's exactly what the Clinton campaign did. Shortly after the debate on Tuesday, the Clinton campaign tweeted out a glossy new site at HillaryClinton.com/literallytrump. The site highlighted dozens of moments “mentioned at the debate,” most of them by Kaine, with citations to back them up and the “share” button never too far away.

By Wednesday morning, a new video was blasted: a 90-second super-cut of Pence's denials.

“At the VP debate, Mike Pence seemed to discover he was Donald Trump's running mate,” the video said.

It is a pattern that first emerged after Clinton's presidential debate against Trump at Hofstra University.

By the next morning, the Clinton campaign was  armed with a similar compilation of Trump's denials of things he claimed he “never said.”




Clinton had memorized Trump's past statements down to his very language: “He even said: ‘Well, if there were nuclear war in East Asia, well that's fine. Have a good time, folks’.”

“Wrong,” Trump interjected. “It's lies.”

Then rolled the clip from a rally earlier in the year where Trump said, “Good luck, folks, enjoy yourself.”

For virtually all of the 90-minute debate on Tuesday night at Longwood University, Kaine served as an encyclopedia of Trump's most damaging comments, rattling them off one by one and even interrupting Pence to interject with clarifications.

“He's got kind of a personal Mount Rushmore — Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, Moammar Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein,” Kaine said at the debate, highlighting Trump's praise of strongmen.

Critics described Kaine's zingers as “dad jokes” and Kaine as a “one-liner robot”.

“He came across as a little bit manic,” said Republican strategist Rick Wilson, who has been sharply critical of Trump. “You're looking for poise. You're looking for steady.”

“Pence's background in broadcasting really came across there,” he added, a reference to the Indiana governor's past career as a radio personality.

Yet, while Kaine's at times hyperactive effort may have rubbed viewers the wrong way, it created a made-for-television highlight reel of all the times that Pence avoided defending his running mate or claimed that Trump never said things he has been documented as saying.

The Republican National Committee fired back with a video on Wednesday that featured the 72 times that Kaine interrupted Pence, which became the Trump campaign's No.1 line of attack against Kaine following the debate. Trump, known for his own interrupting, tweeted on Wednesday morning: “The constant interruptions last night by Tim Kaine should not have been allowed. Mike Pence won big!”




The Clinton campaign's plan for debates has been to “take it in isolation and put it in an ad,” according to Jim Manley, a former adviser to Senator Harry M. Reid (Democrat-Nevada). “It's just the gift that keeps on giving.”

“Given her debate performance and given the campaign's recent aggressiveness and Tim Kaine's performance last night, they are really determined to go hard against Trump,” Manley added.

Clinton spent the day after Kaine's debate hitting the books again, preparing for the next debate with a policy-focused session attended by policy advisers Sara Solow and Kristina Costa; her director of research, Tony Carrk, who has been a part of her debate prep team; and several other close aides.

Asked after an exhaustive session with Clinton at her home in Washington on Wednesday how the day went, her adviser Ron Klain replied simply, “Five hours.”

Clinton plans to spend the next three days continuing her preparation for the town-hall-style event on Sunday at Washington University in St. Louis.

“Hillary did a lot of town-hall debates and a lot of town halls during the course of the primaries and into the general. She's very used to the format. She likes it,” said Clinton campaign manager John Podesta. “She likes answering questions from individual citizens, and she listens hard and relates to people.”

“That's a format that Donald Trump isn't as used to, so we'll see,” he added.

In attacking Kaine, Trump's campaign seemed to repurpose some of the attacks that Trump faced during the first presidential debate and in the tumultuous days that followed. “Unhinged” was a word frequently used by aides and surrogates in television interviews and on Twitter, borrowing a word Clinton used last week to describe Trump.

“I think you're seeing the Clinton-Kaine campaign completely unhinged this morning,” Trump spokesman Jason Miller said on CNN.

When asked what he meant by “unhinged,” Miller replied: “Well, I think the 70-plus interruptions from Senator Kaine went to that, and Senator Kaine had a very tough time standing up and defending their ideas.”


Jenna Johnson contributed to this report.

• Abby Phillip is a national political reporter for The Washington Post.

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Related media:

 • PHOTOGRAPH GALLERY: Kaine and Pence face off during the vice-presidential debate in Virginia


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« Reply #227 on: October 07, 2016, 04:00:58 pm »

i would never lie hahaha



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« Reply #228 on: October 11, 2016, 02:33:32 pm »


from the Los Angeles Times....

Trump steers the presidential debate into the lurid side of politics

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Monday, October 10, 2016



THE second presidential debate was a grim and dispiriting slog through the gutter of American politics; an international embarrassment for the country that claims to be the world's greatest democracy.

Over the last year, through a long string of debates, there have been occasional uplifting moments — most coming during the tough but cordial face-offs between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton — but the truly awful moments have been far more abundant, and the one thing they have had in common is Donald Trump.

Trump surrogates were gleeful about their man’s performance. Indeed, Trump successfully steered the discussion in his direction most of the time. But he did not do it with brilliant wit, mastery of facts or inspiring vision. He did it by interrupting frequently, whining petulantly about the moderators' perceived unfairness and by dodging questions as he pivoted back to an angry torrent of bogus assertions.

As we have learned throughout this marathon campaign, Trump masks his ignorance and inadequacy with fallacious statements and brash boasts. Sunday night was no different. He discounted solid evidence of Russian hackers meddling in the election process, interpreting such stories as a fabrications meant to attack him. He insisted that Clinton has a scheme to raise taxes steeply on everyone when, in fact, her tax plan would affect no one making less than $250,000 a year. He touted his own tax plan as a great deal for the country without noting that it would provide an even bigger windfall to billionaires than the budget-busting tax giveaway that President George W. Bush enacted early in his first term.

Trump also was physically overbearing. He restlessly roamed around his chair, mugged like a mobster in split screen shots and loomed menacingly in the background as Clinton was speaking.

His intimidation game hit an alarming level when he said he will order a special prosecutor to look into Clinton's handling of State Department email if he wins the presidency. When, in response, Clinton said, “It's good someone with your temperament is not in charge of the law in this country,” he retorted, “Because you'd be in jail.” It was the sort of threat one hears in Putin's Russia or from Third World authoritarians, but was a first for an American presidential campaign.

And then there was the stunt with Clinton accusers Kathleen Willey, Juanita Brodderick, Paula Jones and Kathy Shelton. (Willey, Brodderick and Jones have made well-publicized, 2-decades-old claims of being sexually assaulted by former president Bill Clinton; Shelton, in 1975, was a 12-year-old sexual assault victim when Hillary Clinton was assigned by a judge to act as counsel for Shelton's attacker.) Having had his own campaign spun into crisis last Friday by revelation of a video in which Trump says some especially degrading things about women, Trump chose to deflect criticism from himself by holding a surprise news conference with the four women only a couple of hours prior to the start of the debate. He then brought them to the debate site.

According to Robert Costas of The Washington Post, the Trump campaign intended to have the Clinton accusers sit in the family box during the debate and were hopeful they would confront Bill Clinton at some point in the proceedings. The scheme did not work. Backstage, Trump campaign officials, including ex-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, were told by Frank Fahrenkopf Jr., co-chairman of the Commission on Presidential Debates, that their provocation would not be allowed, Costas reports. Now, of course, the Trumpistas want Fahrenkopf, a Reagan-era chair of the Republican National Committee, removed from his role in the debates.

When debate moderator Anderson Cooper asked Trump to answer for his own misogynistic words and deeds, Trump passed it off as “locker room talk” and spun into a disjointed ramble about Islamic State and protecting the borders. When the topic persisted, he turned attention to the four women and Bill and Hillary Clinton's sins against them — sins, he assured everyone, that were far worse than his own.

Trump certainly was successful in reminding us of the seaminess that soiled American politics in the 1990s, but he also gave ample demonstration of how he himself has encouraged some of the worst impulses in the American soul from the day he started his campaign for the highest office in the land.


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« Reply #229 on: October 11, 2016, 04:00:11 pm »

Poor Hillary + Bill boohoo

Left wheel falls off the clinton bus lol
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« Reply #230 on: October 11, 2016, 09:36:40 pm »


So.....when Hillary becomes President Hillary Clinton, it will all be because of those wheels which fell off the bus, eh?

Except that it will be Donald Trump's bus the wheels will have fallen off.

I'm going to piss myself laughing when the American election results come in.

I'll be laughing at all of the stupid white-trash boofheads who support Trump and who will be LOSERS, just like their clown hero.
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trash comes in all sorts of flavours and colours ktj maybe you should try beating yourself up

the elections are rigged if hillary wins
i will admit the press has been doing a great job of wagging the dog
but it was funny watching the press get punked by trump sitting in a room with Bills rape victims

Meanwhile in Russia




Bill Clinton’s Alleged Rape Victims Label Him First Rapist, Not First Gentleman

Playing off the common term for the presidential spouse, alleged victims Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and Paula Jones say that the only noun that should follow him is "rapist."

The hands down loser of last night’s debate wasn’t either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump – it was Bill Clinton and his sterling reputation despite years of sexual indiscretion when the Republican nominee brought up in intricate detail the accusations of sexual assault and rape allegedly perpetrated by the former United States President as his accusers sat in the audience

Monday was not much better for Bill Clinton with three alleged rape victims – Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and Paula Jones sitting down for another exclusive video with controversial far-right news outlet Breitbart News where they once again let the man they said brutally assaulted them have it in the courtroom of public opinion.

The reporter Aaron Klein asked them whether they agreed with Hillary Clinton’s suggestion that her husband be labeled the "First Gentleman" in the event that she wins the election – a possibility that seems more likely with each passing day until November 8th.

Paula Jones chimed in saying, "He is not a gentleman" before suggesting that he be referred to as the “First Groper.” At that moment Kathleen Willey offered her suggestion which the three women agreed was the right name for him – "How about the First Rapist?"

The accusations against Bill Clinton follow in the wake of national outrage over controversial statements made by Donald Trump about "grabbing women by their p----," but the three women who claim to have suffered sexual violence at the hands of Bill Clinton support Trump saying that they are fear of Hillary’s intimidation tactics and that unlike the former US President, the Republican nominee’s indiscretions were just vulgar words.



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« Reply #232 on: October 11, 2016, 11:04:48 pm »

the elections are rigged if hillary wins


Oh dear.....the “sore loser” bullshit has started before Donald Trump has even lost, even though he is going to lose.

I just hope the Republicans also lose the Senate and Congress as well as the presidency.

And it's starting to look like they will if you look at the latest poll trends, which are right across the board.

In which case, it will be “All Praise the great hero Donald Trump for trashing the GOP!”




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« Reply #234 on: October 12, 2016, 08:11:15 pm »


from the Los Angeles Times....

Who won the presidential debate? Numbers will let us know.

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Tuesday, October 11, 2016



WHO WON the second presidential debate of the 2016 campaign? The answer to that question is the same for every political debate: the winner is the one who doesn't lose.

Three very smart journalists at the Los Angeles Times — Washington Bureau Chief David Lauter and political columnists Doyle McManus and Cathleen Decker — have been tasked with scoring each of the debates as they happen. They are seasoned, dispassionate observers of the political world who can think and write in the midst of clamor and tumult. On Sunday night, they rendered a unanimous judgment that Hillary Clinton won the debate.

Immediately, in the online comments section, they were attacked by Donald Trump's partisans, who accused them of liberal bias, if not total blindness. They saw their man as dominant from start to finish. Those folks were then answered by online advocates for Clinton who said they were crazy. For them, Clinton's calmness and command of facts made her the winner. Either side could end up being right, in the same way that flipping a coin produces a winner every time.

We all know that people are highly inclined to see their own candidate as masterful, witty, a paragon of truth and particularly good looking, while they see the opposing candidate as a lying sack of ugliness. Perception is everything. What Lauter, McManus and Decker strive to do is suppress their personal biases and score a debate on things like effectiveness of presentation, factuality of arguments, image projection and expectations met or missed. They try to impose a rational measure on a contest while taking into account the fact that most of us are reacting to the debate with emotion and preconceived notions of how we want it to come out. They are like referees at a game in which the score is not revealed until days after the competition is over. Meanwhile, they have to suffer the vilification of a screaming crowd.

I am inclined to think my colleagues called this one right, but we do not know that quite yet. As I said, the winner will be the one who doesn't lose. In a few days, polls will tell us how voters responded to what they saw Sunday night. If Trump gains ground, he will have won. If Clinton gains ground or simply holds her lead, she wins. It's that simple.

Ultimately, all the loyalty, enthusiasm and flung epithets of partisans does not matter, nor does the sober analysis of journalists. Only the numbers can tell us who really won.


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Obama exposed

could this be called sexual harassment of the news whores

I wonder if he's having phone sex or talking to putin or just calling up a drone strike either way it's giving him a stiffy lmao



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from The Washington Post....

As Trump stumbles, Clinton weighs a striking choice:
Expand the map or stick to the plan


By JOHN WAGNER, ABBY PHILLIP and JOSE A. DELREAL | 6:58PM EDT - Sunday, October 16, 2016

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DEMOCRATIC presidential nominee Hillary Clinton faces a striking choice in the final three weeks of the campaign: to expand her efforts to states that Democrats haven't won in a generation, or to stay a current course that, if conditions hold, would deliver her a resounding electoral college victory.

After two tumultuous weeks focused on Donald Trump's behavior toward women, Clinton is ahead in nearly all of the key battleground states where her campaign has directed the most resources, according to many recent polls. But some once-solidly Republican states — notably Arizona, Georgia and Utah — now also appear to be in play.

Clinton aides said they see advantages to running up the score in the electoral college, where 270 votes wins the White House. Victories in unexpected places could boost that total, handing her more of a mandate come January and decreasing the potency of Trump's complaints of a “rigged” election.

But victories in core battleground states such as Pennsylvania and New Hampshire would almost assuredly cut off Trump's path as well. Those states are also home to key down-ballot races that will determine control of the Senate, an important factor in how much support Clinton would have while launching an agenda in January.

“It's true more and more states are emerging as truly competitive,” Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said. “We are closely following the situations in those states even as we refuse to take anything for granted in the core battlegrounds, which also happen to be the sites of some of the biggest Senate races.”

The issue is predominantly about resources. Clinton and the Democratic Party entered October with twice as much money in the bank as Trump and the Republicans, but some in Clinton's camp have cautioned against any late moves that could jeopardize a victory in states she appears to have nailed down.

“We've got to get our win,” said a senior Clinton aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discus the campaign's strategy. “We have to make sure we focus on keeping the pressure on and doing the things we need to build up as many electoral votes as we can.”

The campaign is expected to decide in the coming days whether to make a more aggressive play for states such as Georgia, which is being eyed as one of the more promising opportunities for Clinton, and Arizona, where a couple of high-profile surrogates are being deployed this week: Senator Bernie Sanders (Vermont) on Tuesday and Chelsea Clinton on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, the Trump campaign is not willing to concede publicly that any states on the map are lost, maintaining that Clinton's low favorability ratings and Trump's anti-establishment message will push undecided voters and independents to break for Trump in the final leg of the campaign.

“We're seeing a much more competitive contest than you're analyzing them to be. We're still playing a very active role in these states and obviously making as big of a play as possible,” said Trump spokesman Jason Miller. “There isn't anything that's not a priority. We don't want to isolate it and say, everything comes down to these states.”

Added Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway: “Every time they get overconfident, we snap back.”

Conway said there may be a need to reallocate resources in the remaining weeks, but she noted that it's “a little premature” to announce when or where that might happen.

“There's no shame in saying we're going to reallocate our resources, dollars, personnel, data operation, ground game, candidate time, both [Indiana Governor Mike] Pence's and Trump's time, in places where we're more competitive,” she said.

The shifting poll numbers come amid the nastiest stretch of this year's campaign, in which a videotape emerged showing Trump bragging in lewd terms about forcing himself on women sexually. Following the video's publication in The Washington Post on October 7th, multiple women have accused Trump of kissing or groping them without their consent.

Both Trump and his running mate, Pence, have hinted that they recognize the shift. Trump has stepped up his disparagement of a “rigged” election at campaign stops across the country and on social media, urging his supporters to monitor polling places closely on November 8th.

On Sunday, Trump noted on Twitter that there are national polls showing him within striking distance of Clinton despite the intense media focus on the accusations against him.

“Polls close, but can you believe I lost large numbers of women voters based on made up events THAT NEVER HAPPENED. Media rigging election!” Trump tweeted.

Pence sought to play down Trump's rhetoric, saying, “We will absolutely accept the result of the election,” during an appearance Sunday on NBC's “Meet the Press”. But he also appeared to embrace, at least partly, the notion of a “rigged” election.

“The American people are tired of the obvious bias in the national media,” Pence said. “That's where the sense of a rigged election goes here.”

Even as some polls have shown Clinton with only a modest lead nationally — one published on Sunday by The Washington Post had her up four points over Trump — her advantage on the electoral map appears sizable.

One such tally, maintained by The Post's blog The Fix, projects that Clinton would win 341 electoral votes to Trump’s 197 if the election were held today.

Several states that Trump initially sought to contest, including Colorado and Virginia, have now seemingly slipped out of reach. Clinton was up by 15 points in Virginia, according to a poll released Sunday by the Wason Center for Public Policy at Christopher Newport University. And Trump has pulled resources from Virginia.

Trump's failure to perform in such states, Clinton aides said, will allow her campaign to shift attention even more to North Carolina and Florida — two must-win states for Trump — to choke his path to 270 electoral votes.

Clinton is running television ads tailored to seven states: Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, Ohio and Iowa. Because they cost millions of dollars to sustain, such ad purchases are the clearest clue about which states are a campaign's top priority.

The vast majority of Clinton's campaign appearances and those of her running mate, Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, have been concentrated in those states, and most of the high-profile surrogates dispatched by the campaign have focused their efforts there as well.

Trump's campaign now appears intent on remaining competitive in four battleground states: Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

He has maintained a far busier travel scheduled than Clinton, hitting all four of those states last week, as well as New Hampshire and Maine. Trump appeared in Florida on three consecutive days last week, underscoring how crucial the state is to his strategy.

Trump will spend the early part of this week in Wisconsin and Colorado before heading to Nevada for Wednesday's debate. His campaign operations in key battlegrounds continue to suffer from ongoing tensions with both state and national GOP establishments and a dearth of on-the-ground investments.

Last week, the campaign fired Trump's state co-chairman in Virginia, Corey Stewart, after he took part in a protest against the Republican National Committee.

In Ohio, where Trump has fallen behind in the polls, the campaign severed ties with Matt Borges, the chairman of the state Republican Party. In a scathing letter, Trump's Ohio state director, Robert Paduchik, accused Borges of going on a “self-promotional media tour with state and national outlets to criticize our party's nominee.”

While the Clinton campaign has begun exploring new opportunities, it has also redoubled its efforts in some of its strongest states. The campaign increased investments recently in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Nevada, according to a Democrat who was familiar with the strategy but was not authorized to speak publicly.

The planned visits to Arizona this week by Sanders and Chelsea Clinton, meanwhile, mark what some Democrats see as a longer-term shift in the state's electoral politics.

Only one Democrat — Bill Clinton — has carried Arizona since 1948. Bill Clinton lost the state in 1992 but narrowly prevailed in 1996.

Alexis Tameron, the state's Democratic party chairwoman, said the demographics of the state are trending in the right direction for Democrats, and the state's voting patterns could resemble Colorado within a few cycles.

Even as it weighs whether to invest heavily in new states, the Clinton campaign is increasingly reaching out to voters in those places through local media, an effort to maintain a presence without reallocating resources to the state.

Kaine spoke to a Salt Lake City television station remotely from New York on Thursday, relaying that the Clinton campaign wants to step up its focus on the state, which Democrats have not won since 1964.

“Hopefully we'll even have candidates or spouses or high-profile surrogates visit,” Kaine told KTVX. “We're 3½ weeks out in a state that we didn't think was in play. Now it is.”

In Georgia, where the last Democrat to carry the state was Bill Clinton in 1992, there's a clear sense that the contest is more meaningful than in recent cycles, said Michael Smith, communications director for the Georgia Democratic Party.

“Instead of using Georgia to mobilize people to go to North Carolina, they're staying in our state. It's night and day,” Smith said.

Democrats are running coordinated campaigns in the battleground states, meaning money is being to spent to promote the entire ticket, not just Clinton.

That stands to benefit Democratic Senate candidates, including Katie McGinty in Pennsylvania, Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire, Deborah Ross in North Carolina and Catherine Cortez Masto in Nevada — all of whom are in competitive races.

Priorities USA Action, the pro-Clinton super PAC, is considering devoting television air time to Senate races in four states: Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, according to a person familiar with the discussions. A decision is expected to be made by the middle of the week.

In an effort to help down-ballot candidates across the country, Clinton and her surrogates, especially President Obama, have stepped up their case against Republicans in general, seeking to steer voters away from giving congressional candidates a pass for “enabling” Trump.

“I mean, I know some of them now are walking away, but why did it take you this long?” Obama said at a campaign stop for Clinton in Cleveland on Friday.


• John Wagner is a political reporter at The Washington Post covering the race for the 2016 presidential election.

• Abby Phillip is a national political reporter for The Washington Post.

• Jose A. DelReal covers national politics for The Washington Post.

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Republicans waffle as Trump is captured by the alt-right

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Monday, October 17, 2016



RIGHT NOW, there are enough waffles in the Republican Party to feed a congressional prayer breakfast. Enough wafflers, anyway.

Quite a few GOP members of Congress and electorally endangered senators are waffling from one contorted position to another, desperate to modulate their enthusiasm for Donald Trump in exactly the right way. They support their party's presidential candidate, they will say, but cannot condone Trump's loathsome lechery, clinging to an elusive distinction between the candidate and the man. Or like House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, who now says he will not campaign for Trump and would prefer not to talk about him, but who has let his endorsement stand, even as the latest reports of unwelcome groping of female private parts fill the news.

The waffling has become more frantic as elected Republicans become convinced the man at the top of the GOP ticket has repulsed more than enough voters to sink his own campaign. They are trying not to be dragged down in Trump's undertow.

The problem is fairly straightforward for senators in swing states and representatives in the few remaining districts where both major political parties are competitive. To maintain their chances with moderate voters, they need to pretend Trump is running in some other country or some other party or some other reality that has nothing to do with them. For Republicans in safe seats, it is a little more complicated. How do they placate the vengeful Trump partisans who might turn on them in this or some subsequent election if they fail to show loyalty to the braggart billionaire? At the same time, how do they maintain even a hollow claim to being defenders of traditional morality and Christian family values? If there is one thing Trump is not, it is an exemplar of Christian morality and values.

Perhaps Trump will rebound in the polls before election day — far stranger things have happened in this campaign — but, at the moment, conventional indicators show that Hillary Clinton will win on November 8th and her margin of victory could even be great enough to swing the U.S. Senate to Democratic control and seriously carve into the current Republican majority in the House of Representatives.

As he cut his ties to Trump, Ryan set his caucus members loose to do whatever needs to be done to keep their seats, whether that is embracing Trump the way he embraces attractive women who wander into his reach, or treating Trumpism like a virus that needs to be killed before it spreads through the entire party. Chances are, Ryan will maintain his majority, but many of the more moderate and rational conservatives trying to get re-elected in swing districts will be gone and that means greater influence for the Looney Tunes wing that drove Ryan's predecessor, John Boehner, out of politics.

The nutty faction has already captured the Trump campaign. Trump himself is not necessarily driven by the same warped world view that drives the cabal of reactionary fabulists that has been dubbed as the alt-right; he is a creature of his own narcissistic needs and obsessions. Yet, now that he has declared independence from Ryan and the other Republicans who have finally refused to be his apologists, he has put himself fully in the hands of people like his campaign CEO, Stephen Bannon, the former boss of the alt-right mouthpiece, Breitbart News. In this, Trump is following, not leading, his most ardent fans. Those folks have become addicted to the mental meth and conspiracy crack pushed by alt-right Savonarolas such as Alex Jones, the impresario of the crackpot “news” site Infowars. (Jones is the guy who is offering followers as much as $5,000 if they successfully get themselves in front of live TV cameras wearing one of his “Bill Clinton Rape” T-shirts.)

An addled alt-rightist confronted vice presidential candidate Mike Pence at a campaign event in Iowa a few days ago. The woman told Pence she had spent endless hours scouring the Internet to keep informed (I'm pretty sure she was not just killing time poking around Pinterest) and was ready for a revolution if Hillary Clinton is elected.

Pence gave the would-be revolutionary a mild chiding, but the incident illustrates the problem that will face the Republican Party even if GOP majorities in Congress are retained. In defeat,  Trump may fade away (not likely!), but the party's electoral foundation will continue to rest on millions of voters who have brainwashed themselves into believing that people like Clinton and Barack Obama exude the sulfuric stench of Lucifer —  in the colorful characterization of Alex Jones — and that armed rebellion is far preferable to any tiny compromise with Democrats, a.k.a, the spawn of Satan.

How do rational Republicans waffle their way out of that?


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Clinton holds clear advantage in new battleground polls

By DAN BALZ and SCOTT CLEMENT | 12:34PM EDT - Tuesday, October 18, 2016

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HILLARY CLINTON holds a decisive advantage over Donald Trump in the competition for votes in the electoral college, leading in enough states to put her comfortably over the 270 majority needed to win the presidential election in November, according to a new SurveyMonkey poll of 15 battleground states conducted with The Washington Post.

Based on the results from the 15 state surveys, along with assumptions of the likely outcomes in other states that have consistently voted for one party or the other, Clinton, the Democratic nominee, holds leads of four points among likely voters or more in states that add up to 304 electoral votes.

Trump, the GOP nominee, has the advantage in states with an estimated electoral vote total of 138. Arizona, Florida, Ohio and Texas, which account for 96 electoral votes, remain as toss-ups. All results in the 15 state surveys are based on ballot tests that include Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein.

The results underscore the importance for Trump of Wednesday's final presidential debate, which will be held in Las Vegas. National polls have moved in Clinton's direction since the exchanges began in late September. Her current average margin is seven points in polling averages from the Huffington Post Pollster and RealClearPolitics. The most recent Washington Post-ABC News poll put her national lead over Trump at four points.




The effect of the shift toward Clinton in national polls is evident in the new 15-state study. In late August, The Washington Post, using SurveyMonkey's online methodology, conducted individual polls in all 50 states among registered voters. At that time, Clinton led in states that added up to 244 electoral votes, while Trump led in states accounting for 126. Toss-up states equaled 168 electoral votes.

The SurveyMonkey surveys also included polls of Senate and gubernatorial races, where applicable, in the same 15 states. The results show two things. First, many Republican Senate candidates are outperforming Trump in their states. Second, that still may not be enough to maintain the GOP's majority in the chamber.

Democrats need a net gain of five seats to take outright control of the Senate, four to exercise control if Clinton becomes president. The results showed them with leads of four or more points in three states with GOP incumbents: New Hampshire, North Carolina and Wisconsin.

Republican incumbents lead in Florida and Ohio, the latter by a wide margin. Meanwhile, Nevada, currently held by Democrats, and Pennsylvania, now in Republican hands, continue to be close. Pennsylvania is emblematic of the problem for GOP Senate incumbents, trying to survive in states where Trump struggles. Clinton leads Trump by six points but the Senate race is even at 47 percent apiece for Republican Senator Patrick J. Toomey and Democrat Katie McGinty.




Illinois was not included in the survey, but based on other polls appears to be one of the likeliest states to shift from Republican to Democrat in November. Republicans also are defending seats in Indiana and Missouri, both of which are now highly competitive but neither of which was included in the 15-state survey.

The 2016 campaign has produced apparent shifts in several states — battlegrounds and non-battlegrounds — that could foreshadow more permanent changes in future elections. Demographic trends have moved several swing states more strongly in the direction of the Democrats this year — Colorado and Virginia are prime examples.

Other states such as Arizona, Georgia and possibly Texas show predicted signs of moving from traditional GOP strongholds to potential future battlegrounds. The demographic changes would put Republicans at an even greater disadvantage in the future if they cannot find a way to appeal to a changing electorate.

At the same time, the electoral map looks somewhat different from past campaigns owing to the uniqueness of Trump's candidacy — the coalition he has attracted and the voters who are repelled by his message and temperament. His relative strength in states with high percentages of non-college graduates and of white voters, such as Iowa and Ohio, are the example of the former. Utah, which has been scrambled this year by Trump's candidacy, is an example of the latter.

Utah was not included in the SurveyMonkey analysis. But recent public polls suggest that this traditionally rock-solid Republican state is now a competitive battleground. Trump can hardly afford to lose the state's six electoral votes, given his current disadvantage.

Overall, the results of the 15-state survey underscore Clinton's margin of error in the state-by-state competition over the final three weeks of the campaign as well as the increasingly tortuous path for Trump to cobble together an electoral college majority.

Clinton has many paths to 270; Trump has few. This has been the case for some time, based on all available evidence from state and national polls. Trump now needs a clear shift nationally and then a strategy for converting that into state-by-state victories.

Among the states that have moved in Clinton's direction since the previous 50-state survey are Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina and Wisconsin. Of those, the results in Georgia differ from the current average of all recent polls in that state. The Huffpost Pollster average in Georgia gives a Trump a four-point lead while the SurveyMonkey poll puts Clinton ahead by four points.

Texas is another state that, by historic results, should end up in Trump's column. The SurveyMonkey results show the state splitting 44 percent to 42 percent between Trump and Clinton. The average of other public polls shows Trump with a larger, although single-digit, lead there. But with virtually the entire Bush family on the sidelines and with an endorsement of Clinton by the Dallas Morning News, Texas has proved to be a more competitive battleground than anyone expected.

The SurveyMonkey results also put Clinton in a stronger position in New Hampshire and North Carolina than other public surveys. Public polls in North Carolina show her with a low single-digit advantage. In New Hampshire, public polls show her ahead but not by the 11-point margin in these findings.

None of that negates the obstacles for Trump. If he were to win all the toss-up states, plus hold onto Georgia, which has consistently voted for Republican presidential candidates since 1996, he would still be 20 electoral votes short of the 270 needed to win. Were he to eke out an additional victory in North Carolina, which has 15 electoral votes, that would not be enough.

Trump's campaign has claimed for a long time that, because of his support among white, blue-collar voters, he would be able to make inroads in traditional Democratic territory such as Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The new findings underscore the degree to which he is falling short in those Midwestern battlegrounds. He trails Clinton in Michigan by 45 percent to 37 percent; in Pennsylvania by 46 percent to 40 percent; and in Wisconsin by 43 percent to 38 percent.

Two states remain among his best of the battlegrounds. He leads Clinton in Iowa by five points and in Nevada by four points, a state where other polls have shown Clinton with a slight edge. In Ohio, the results are Trump at 44 percent and Clinton at 41 percent. But traditionally Republican Arizona is equally close, with Trump at 44 percent and Clinton with 41 percent.

In state after state, Trump appears to have a relatively low ceiling on his support. Of the 15 measured, he garners 45 percent in just two states and at or below 40 percent in eight. Clinton's lowest is 40 percent in Iowa and Nevada but she is at 45 percent or more in six states, topping out at 49 percent in Virginia.

The demographic contours of support for Clinton and Trump show some variance from state to state, but there are some consistent patterns, beginning with gender differences.

Among women, Clinton leads Trump by four points or more in 14 of the 15 states surveyed. Averaging across all 15 states, her lead over Trump among women is 49 percent to 35 percent. Among men, Trump leads by four points or more in 12 of the 15 states and by 10 points (47 percent to 37 percent) on average across all states.

Trump has comfortable leads among white men in all states, except New Hampshire, where he and Clinton are tied. Clinton leads by four points or more among white women in Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump leads among white women in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and Texas. The two are running close to even among white women in Nevada, Ohio and Virginia.

Racial divisions are stark. In Georgia, Trump leads among whites by more than 30 points. Among non-whites, Clinton leads by just over 70 points. In Michigan and Pennsylvania, whites split almost evenly while non-whites back Clinton overwhelmingly. In Virginia, Clinton's lead of more than 50 points among non-whites easily overcomes Trump's five-point advantage among white voters.

Educational achievement remains a clear dividing line in the competition and one of the potential mold-breakers of this campaign. Republicans have generally won the votes of whites with college degrees and those without college degrees. This fall, among white voters without college degrees, Trump leads by four points or more in 14 of the 15 states surveyed, most by sizable margins.

Clinton, however, leads among whites with college degrees in 12 of the 15 states. Trump leads narrowly among white college graduates in Georgia and the two are running about even in Florida and Texas. In Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania, Clinton leads Trump by double digits among white voters with college degrees, helping offset losses among those without degrees.

In these battlegrounds, Clinton holds a higher percentage of Democrats than Trump among Republicans. Averaging across the 15 states, she wins 92 percent of self-identified Democrats while Trump has support from 85 percent of Republicans. Trump leads among independents by six points (38 percent to 32 percent), while Johnson, the libertarian, averages 20 percent among independents.

The SurveyMonkey poll was conducted online during October 8th-16th among 17,379 likely voters across 15 states, including between 569 and 1,702 respondents in each state. No margin of sampling error is calculated, as this statistic is applicable only to randomly sampled surveys.


Emily Guskin contributed to this report.

• Dan Balz is Chief Correspondent at The Washington Post. He has served as the paper's National Editor, Political Editor, White House correspondent and Southwest correspondent.

• Scott Clement is the polling manager at The Washington Post, specializing in public opinion about politics, election campaigns and public policy.

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Trump is headed toward a major loss.
The GOP can't say it wasn't warned.


By E.J. DIONNE Jr. | 9:14AM EDT - Wednesday, October 19, 2016

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LAS VEGAS, NEVADA — Donald Trump goes into his third and final presidential debate on the defensive, with Hillary Clinton threatening to poach a string of once loyally Republican states from a man who says he hates losers.

Trump is in danger of being one of his party's biggest losers — and, as President Obama pointed out on Tuesday, a whiny one at that.

The states on Clinton's new target list include Arizona and, of all places, Texas. In Nevada, the polling is mixed, though Clinton seems to have gained ground. A Monmouth University Poll released on Tuesday put Clinton ahead of Trump here by seven points. Trump was up by two points last month. But a new Washington Post-Survey Monkey survey, which showed her in a commanding position nationally, had her still down here by four.

All these states have something important in common: They include large numbers of Latino voters, who are clearly mobilizing to defeat Trump. He is also suffering from profound weaknesses among African Americans, college-educated voters of all backgrounds and the young.

Much has been written about whether Clinton will be able to bring enough young voters to the polls on November 8th and also not lose too many of them to third-party candidates.

But notice this: Nobody is saying that she will hemorrhage younger Americans to Trump, because she won't. “For millennials, the choice is Clinton, third party or the couch,” said John Della Volpe, who has long overseen Harvard's Institute of Politics' polling of young people. Yes, “the couch”, meaning abstention, is a far bigger threat to Clinton among younger voters than the Republican nominee.

There is a lot of speculation about lower turnout overall — I am not persuaded by this, given the stakes in the election — but there is not much doubt about the engagement of Latinos, as Aaron Zitner reported this week in the Wall Street Journal. And a Wall Street Journal-NBC News-Telemundo survey, which had a larger-than-usual sample of Latinos to get a better fix on their preferences, found Clinton leading Trump among them 67 percent to 17 percent.

Trump is thus on track to run behind Mitt Romney's already-anemic 27 percent tally among Latinos against President Obama in 2012. Romney's Hispanic showing was, in turn, worse than John McCain's in 2008 and much worse than George W. Bush's in 2004 and 2000.


Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump holds a campaign rally in Grand Junction, Colorado. — Photograph: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters.
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump holds a campaign rally in Grand Junction, Colorado.
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Now it would be one thing if no one had anticipated what a Trump-like candidate would do to the party's chances, or if the GOP had been united around a go-for-broke strategy among white voters. But some of the most intelligent analysis of why Trumpism would be a disaster for Republicans came from inside the GOP itself.

The March 2013 report for the party's Growth & Opportunity Project (widely known as “the autopsy” of Romney's 2012 defeat) deserves revisiting at this moment. It was unflinching in offering words that — unless Trump has a miraculous recovery by Election Day — will merely have to be cut and pasted into a post-2016 autopsy.

“The nation's demographic changes add to the urgency of recognizing how precarious our position has become,” its authors wrote. “If we want ethnic minority voters to support Republicans, we have to engage them and show our sincerity.”

They went on: “If Hispanic Americans perceive that a GOP nominee or candidate does not want them in the United States … they will not pay attention to our next sentence. It does not matter what we say about education, jobs or the economy; if Hispanics think we do not want them here, they will close their ears to our policies.”

As for young voters, the report noted the party did not have to share their views “on every issue, but we do need to make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view…. If our party is not welcoming and inclusive, young people and increasingly other voters will continue to tune us out.”

In the long history of advice-giving, it's hard to think of a case where good counsel was so resolutely rejected. And what's important is that large chunks of the Republican Party's primary electorate did the rejecting. All the reports in the world won't change the party if its own members are determined to stay a doomed course.

This is why some Republicans may be hoping privately that Clinton's effort to expand the Democrats' map actually succeeds. It may take a true party-wide catastrophe for the GOP rank and file to come to terms with the United States that exists, not the one they wish they could call back into being.


• E.J. Dionne writes about politics in a twice-weekly column and on the PostPartisan blog at The Washington Post. He is a senior fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution, a government professor at Georgetown University and a commentator on politics for National Public Radio, ABC's “This Week” and MSNBC. He is the author of “Why the Right Went Wrong”.

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Presidential politics has now become America's obsession

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PDT - Friday, October 28, 2016



THE presidential campaign of 2016 has not only achieved total dominion in the world of news media, it has invaded the gossipy realm of entertainment and discombobulated the daily lives of ordinary Americans.

According to a story on National Public Radio, Donald Trump masks are HUGE this Halloween. “Saturday Night Live” lampoons of the presidential debates have become must-see TV. The real debates beat out National Football League games in the ratings, and there is speculation that the audience for all televised NFL games is down this year because people are preoccupied with the campaign.

The bitter battle between Hillary Clinton and Trump has brought citizens together in enormous numbers to watch each new and unprecedented twist in the unfolding story, even as it has further separated the nation into two camps, each with a profound disdain and loathing for the opposing side. Facebook pages flame with vitriol. Friends are unfriended. There are reports that even sedate book groups blow up in impassioned rants when someone mentions the race for the White House.

This election has offended genteel sensibilities, led newspapers and magazines to print scatological terminology never before seen beyond the racks of men's magazines and caused parents to usher children from the room when political news comes on TV. New lows in political discourse are achieved on a daily basis. CNN devotes evening after evening to infantile squabbles between obsequious surrogates for the candidates and calls it news. Fox News and MSNBC report from two different realities.

As election day nears, there is both a collective sigh of relief that this marathon slog through the muck will finally be over and a perverse sense of disappointment. It is as if we have been binge-watching every installment of “Survivor” (or maybe “Naked and Afraid”) and are finally reaching the last episode. We are exhausted, our minds are numbed but we will miss feeding our voyeuristic fascination with the sordid spectacle and cringe-worthy melodrama.

But will it really be over? Facing defeat, Trump is busy preparing his alibi. If we lose, Trump tells his red-capped legions, it will only prove the system is rigged, the election has been stolen and that lyin' Hillary is an illegitimate president, just like that black guy, Obama.

Trump may turn his attention to starting a new TV network that appeals to all his apoplectic, conspiracy-obsessed followers. House Republicans (if they retain their majority) will immediately unleash a squall of investigations aimed at politically eviscerating the country's first female president. The greater Republican Party will be seething with recrimination and blame for the electoral meltdown. Bill and Hillary will be back in the White House and the Clinton haters will be back in business. Meanwhile, the news media will take a quick breath and then begin speculating about who will be running in 2020.

So, take heart — or take a Valium — because the show is not actually ending. This one never ends.


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Clinton and Trump campaign into the early hours of election day

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PST - Tuesday, November 08, 2016



THE 2016 campaign has consumed my life since the middle of 2015 and so I felt compelled to watch it bleed into the wee hours of election day as the two candidates for president delivered their post-midnight, final campaign speeches. Donald Trump was addressing a big rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, — alone. Hillary Clinton was speaking to a big crowd in Raleigh, North Carolina, backed up by her husband, President Bill Clinton, and their daughter, Chelsea, with chanteuse Lady Gaga and rock icon Jon Bon Jovi standing beside them.

The final TV tableaus were fitting. Trump, a man at war with major factions of his own party, is a one-man show. For Hillary, it takes a village.

Trump has been bragging that he draws big crowds single-handedly, while Hillary needs superstar surrogates to fill a hall. That is actually not true — Clinton has done as well as Trump when she flies solo — but, on the last day of the campaign, she certainly packed the program with big names. At a massive gathering outside Independence Hall in Philadelphia, she had not only Bill, Chelsea and Bon Jovi with her, but also Bruce Springsteen, President Barack Obama and the most popular woman in the country, First Lady Michelle Obama.

Trump was stuck with alt-right rocker Ted Nugent who made news by grabbing his crotch and calling his private parts “the blue states.”

Being a celebrity himself, Trump doesn't need any backing. He has held the country spellbound at least since the first Republican primary debate when he got into a nasty exchange about sexism with moderator Megyn Kelly. The fascination with Trump developed despite the fact he had no idea how to give a proper speech. His oratory was an exercise in meandering, self-impressed stream of consciousness.

He has gotten better, though. Trump's Grand Rapids speech was an effective melding of his informal style with a reasonably coherent set of talking points. A few lines, in particular, stood out:

“One core question for you to consider: Do you want America to be ruled by the corrupt political class or do you want America to be ruled by the people?... Today is our independence day. Today the American working class is going to strike back.”

In a year when so many voters are in rebellion against the status quo, that is a powerful message. But Trump could never stick with a serious theme for long. He tweeted his way into an endless string of personal controversies that made him look like an unstable, clownish bully. Clinton was beatable. If the final polls are not wildly mistaken, though, by tonight Trump will become the thing he most despises: a loser.

Hillary was not the world's greatest orator either when the campaign began, but she got better. Her speech in Raleigh was an example of how she has learned to modulate her voice and speak from her heart as much as from her head. Given Trump's enormous deficits in knowledge, experience, discipline and common decency, one might ask why she had to campaign so hard right into the early hours of voting day. Still, as the ultimate insider running in a year when so many people are ready to smash the system and try something different, it is impressive that Clinton appears poised for a solid victory. 

Despite those good prospects, Hillary did not seem to be taking anything for granted on the campaign's last night. She told the North Carolina crowd how Bon Jovi had enjoyed himself so much at the Philadelphia rally that he hitched a ride to Raleigh on the Clinton campaign plane. Then she drew from the lyrics of Bon Jovi's most popular song to make it clear she knows the election will not be over until every vote is cast.

“Between now and the time the polls close tomorrow,” Hillary said, “we're gonna be livin' on a prayer.”


http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-clinton-trump-20161108-snap-20161107-story.html
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« Reply #245 on: November 09, 2016, 08:45:22 am »

washington post Jeff Bezos is worth 67.7 billion USD

so he a filthy rich leftist?

he should give all his money away to the poor lol
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from The Washington Post....

Trump vs. Clinton: Which one would cartoonists
prefer to ridicule for the next four years?


Forget about personal preference. Whom do editorial cartoonists
want to win for professional reasons: Trump or Clinton?


By MICHAEL CAVNA | 7:00AM EST - Tuesday, November 08, 2016


(click on the cartoon to read Michael Cavna's lavishly-illustrated story)
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i can't wait for trump to open the books and find out how corrupt the us government has been

bet it blows his mind
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