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« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2016, 01:02:16 pm »


from The Washington Post....

Donald Trump: Stonewaller, shape-shifter, liar

By RUTH MARCUS | 7:06PM EDT - Tuesday, May 17, 2016

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in Hartford, Connecticut. — Photograph: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post.
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in Hartford, Connecticut. — Photograph: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post.

THE past few weeks have offered Americans a chilling glimpse of three faces of Donald Trump: the stonewaller, the shape-shifter and the liar.

Trump the stonewaller has been on display in his refusal to release his tax returns. “It's none of your business,” Trump flatly told ABC News's George Stephanopoulos when asked about his effective tax rate.

Stephanopoulos: “Yes or no, do you believe voters have a right to see your tax returns before they make a final decision?”

Trump: “I don't think they do. But I do say this, I will really gladly give them.”

Sure, he'd be happy to — except that he isn't. And it is our business. Voters are entitled to know this information about a candidate for president, a person who would help steer the nation's finances. For decades, presidential candidates have routinely made this material available.

It is astonishing that Trump believes he is exempt from this norm — that a pending audit makes his returns less important to see, not more, or that he is not obliged to find some other way of providing the information, such as returns from earlier years or summary data for the years still under review.

Even more worrisome is what this high-handed approach augurs for a Trump presidency: to airily promise transparency while repeatedly failing to deliver. It is an iron law of politics that candidates do not magically become more forthcoming once in office. Their behavior on the campaign trail, when under pressure to satisfy voters, represents a better version of what they would do on the job.

Then there is Trump the shape-shifter, a man without fixed views and whose policy proposals are mere opening gambits. What does he believe? What is a core principle, and what is up for negotiation?

“I'm allowed to change,” Trump told Stephanopoulos on the minimum wage. (He didn't want it raised, then he did, now maybe not.) Certainly, flip-flopping is a chronic and common political condition; it can be evidence of open-mindedness rather than craven politicking or ideological spinelessness.

Yet Trump's proclaimed “flexibility” is unsettling because it does not rest on an existing edifice of long-expressed conviction and recorded votes. When everything is a starting bid, how are voters supposed to judge — or guess — where Trump might end up?

Trump's campaign is a vast policy desert, so declaring that the sparse fronds of detail are eminently negotiable erases any confidence that voters know what they are getting. Voting for Trump is like nailing Jell-O to your ballot.

Finally, most appallingly, Trump the liar. That is a strong charge, but it appears warranted in the matter of Trump masquerading as his own spokesman (disturbing enough) and then outright denying it (way more disturbing).

“It was not me on the phone,” Trump told NBC's Savannah Guthrie. “And it doesn't sound like me on the phone. I will tell you that. And it was not me on the phone. And when was this, 25 years ago?”

Yes, and Trump could have said any number of things: This was a silly prank, long ago. Of course he shouldn't have done it.

Instead, Trump opted to lie. How do we know? Because in a quote back then to People magazine about supposed spokesman “John Miller”, Trump described his posing as a “joke gone awry”. Because numerous reporters have described having similar encounters with phony Trump spokesmen.

Because Trump himself admitted in court that “I believe on occasion I used that name” — referring to a different alias, “John Barron”. Because who are you going to believe: Trump or your lying ears?

This is a fib, you might argue, so trivial as to be meaningless. Yet a candidate willing to lie about something so small will be a president willing to lie about something big — and this is hardly Trump's only lie (e.g., thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11).

The popular understanding may be that all politicians lie, but there is a difference between the ordinarily distasteful political diet of spin, fudge, evasion and hyperbole and the Trumpian habit of unvarnished, unembarrassed falsehood.

“Who cares?” Trump would breezily assure the horrified Mar-a-Lago house historian after regaling guests with the untrue tale of how Walt Disney himself created the nursery rhyme-themed tiles in his daughter's room.

Who cares, indeed — an important question for voters. Americans have elected presidents who subsequently lied to them (and, yes, that includes the husband of a current candidate). Knowingly electing one who lies while trying out for the job would be a tragic mistake.


• Ruth Marcus is a columnist for The Washington Post, specializing in American politics and domestic policy.

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« Reply #101 on: May 23, 2016, 01:02:42 pm »


from The Washington Post....

Trump bets on mass amnesia

By DANA MILBANK | 9:24AM EDT - Friday, May 20, 2016

Trump speaks during a rally in Eugene, Oregon. — Photograph: Ted S. Warren/Associated Press.
Trump speaks during a rally in Eugene, Oregon. — Photograph: Ted S. Warren/Associated Press.

JUST how gullible does Donald Trump suppose the American voter is?

The billionaire showman has been the presumptive Republican presidential nominee for only a couple of weeks, yet his general election strategy is already becoming clear: hope for a mass nationwide outbreak of short-term memory loss. His top strategist, Paul Manafort, has said that the “part that he's been playing is now evolving”. But this isn't evolution — it's reincarnation.

That call Trump made “for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States”? Turns out that was “just a suggestion”, he now says.

The federal minimum wage increase, which he repeatedly opposed? Now he's “looking at” an increase, he says.

The massive tax cut he proposed during the primary, which analysts said would add $10 trillion to the federal debt? Never mind! He's hired experts to rewrite it in a way that cuts taxes less for the wealthy.

Those tax returns he promised “certainly” to release? Not going to happen, he says now.

One of his key surrogates, Representative Chris Collins (Republican-New York), now declares that he doesn't expect Trump to build a border wall or deport 11 million illegal immigrants — the cornerstones of Trump's primary campaign. The congressman told the Buffalo News that Trump would build a “virtual wall” and that his deportation plan was “rhetorical”.

Remember all those companies Trump blasted for sending jobs overseas? Ford was a “disgrace”, Disney had “outrageous” practices, Carrier deserved higher taxes, Apple should be boycotted because it didn't help the FBI in a terrorism case, and Trump's never eating an Oreo again because Nabisco outsourced. Financial disclosures this week showed Trump has invested in all of the above.

Or his incendiary (and retracted) claim that women who have abortions should face criminal punishment? What he really was saying was “women punish themselves”, he told The New York Times Magazine.

The list goes on and on. Trump, who said that “if you're running for president, you shouldn't be allowed to use a teleprompter,” has used that very device in at least two recent speeches.




Trump, who previously boasted that “I don't have pollsters” because “I want to be me,” hired a pollster, Tony Fabrizio. And Trump, who campaigned against the Republican foreign policy establishment, has been hobnobbing with James Baker and Henry Kissinger.

Some of those who backed Trump must feel like suckers. But will his clumsy effort to somersault into the mainstream appeal to the rest of the electorate? Perhaps. Yet it also reaffirms the biggest worry about Trump: He says whatever comes out of his mouth. He has no mooring other than self-love — and that's why he's dangerous.

To rationalize these wild shifts in position, let's bring in John Miller, the Trump “publicist” who called journalists in the 1990s to praise Trump but who was actually Trump himself. My Washington Post colleague Marc Fisher unearthed a recording of a 1991 call from “Miller” to People magazine, about Trump's shifts from Ivana to Marla to Carla Bruni and others. Substitute policies for women, and the words go a long way toward explaining Trump's political views today as he flirts with positions then discards them:


  • “He really decided that he wasn't, you know, he didn't want to make any commitment.”

  • “He's somebody that has a lot of options, and, frankly, he gets called by everybody. He gets called by everybody in the book, in terms of women.”

  • “Marla would've liked to get married, obviously, but it was just something he didn't want to do.”

  • “I think that he's got a whole open field really… Actresses, people that you write about just call to see if they can go out with him and things.”

  • Madonna “called and wanted to go out with him, that I can tell you.”

  • “Marla wants to be back with him.”

  • “Ivana wants to get back with Donald.”

  • “I mean, he's living with Marla, and he's got three other girlfriends.”

  • “So now he has somebody else named Carla who is beautiful.”

  • “He's not making any commitments to Carla either, just so you understand.”

There were words from “Miller” that ring true today: how Trump is “immune” from and “actually thrived” on bad press, and how self-interest drives him above all else, because “he does things for himself.”

Trump immediately said the unearthed recording wasn't of him. Given the sound of the voice and Trump's prior admission to posing as his own publicist, this was obviously false. But perhaps to Trump it wasn't a lie. Back then, he spoke of Ivana, Marla, Carla and Madonna. Now it's Muslims, the minimum wage, taxes and the wall. In both, Trump's idea of the truth means whatever words last came out of his mouth.


• Dana Milbank writes about political theater in the nation’s capital. He joined The Washington Post as a political reporter in 2000.

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« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2016, 01:02:55 pm »


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Trump once revealed his income tax returns.
They showed he didn't pay a cent.


By DREW HARWELL | 1:00PM EDT - Friday, May 20, 2016

Donald Trump speaks to supporters at a fund raising event at the New Jersey National Guard Armory in Lawrenceville, New Jersey. — Photograph: Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post.
Donald Trump speaks to supporters at a fund raising event at the New Jersey National Guard Armory in Lawrenceville, New Jersey.
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THE last time information from Donald Trump's income-tax returns was made public, the bottom line was striking: He had paid the federal government $0 in income taxes.

The disclosure, in a 1981 report by New Jersey gambling regulators, revealed that the wealthy Manhattan investor had for at least two years in the late 1970s taken advantage of a tax-code provision popular with developers that allowed him to report negative income.

Today, as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Trump regularly denounces corporate executives for using “loopholes” and “false deductions” to “get away with murder” when it comes to avoiding taxes.

“They make a fortune. They pay no tax,” Trump said last year on CBS. “It's ridiculous, okay?”

The contrast highlights a potentially awkward challenge for Trump.

He has built a political identity around his reputation as a financial whiz, even bragging about his ability to game the tax code to pay as little as possible to the government — a practice he has called the “American way”. Moreover, he has aggressively pursued tax breaks and other government supports to bolster his real estate empire. But that history threatens to collide with his efforts to woo working-class voters who resent that they often pay higher tax rates than the wealthy who benefit from special loopholes.

Trump's personal taxes are a mystery. He has refused to release any recent returns, meaning the public cannot see how much money he makes, how much he gives to charity and how aggressively he uses deductions, shelters and other tactics to shrink his tax bill.

Trump, who said last week on ABC that his tax rate is “none of your business,” would be the first major party nominee in 40 years to not release his returns.

In an interview this week, Trump said that he has paid “substantial” taxes but declined to provide specifics.

He reiterated that he fights “very hard to pay as little tax as possible.”

“One of the reasons is because the government takes your money and wastes it in the Middle East and all over the place,” he said.

Trump's contradictory approaches have been apparent for years.

He criticized 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney for delaying the release of his returns. Romney, a former private-equity executive, had come under fire for paying a low tax rate because most of his income came from investments.

“It's a great thing when you can show that you've been successful, and that you've made a lot of money,” Trump said at the time.

Romney eventually released returns showing that, for his 2011 taxes, he chose not to take certain deductions, bringing his tax rate more in line with that of average Americans.

Trump, early in his campaign, seemed ready to give voters a look at his tax filings.

In January, he said on NBC's “Meet the Press” that he was ready to disclose his “very big … very beautiful” returns.

But as his campaign gained momentum, Trump backed away from his declaration. He first claimed that ongoing audits by the Internal Revenue Service prevent disclosure.

Then last week, he told the Associated Press that voters are not interested in seeing his tax filings and that “there's nothing to learn from them.”

Trump's new position has unnerved some tax experts, who see value in the tradition of transparency by presidential contenders.

“At some point, he could be the tax collector in chief. He'd supervise the IRS, making sure all of us live up to our own tax responsibilities,” said Joe Thorndike, a director at Tax Analysts, a nonpartisan, nonprofit group that specializes in tax policy. “People deserve to know … how a person like that plays the game.”

Trump's stance has become an issue in the campaign.

Romney said on Facebook last week that refusing to release tax returns should be “disqualifying” for any nominee and speculated that Trump's returns could be hiding a “bombshell of unusual size.” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Republican-Kentucky) weighed in this week, telling reporters that Trump will “have to make that decision himself” but that presidential candidates' releasing their returns has “certainly been the pattern for quite some time.”

Trump's likely Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who has disclosed decades of tax returns, released a 60-second ad last week asking, “What's Donald Trump hiding?

“You've got to ask yourself: ‘Why doesn’t he want to release it?’” Clinton said at a New Jersey rally last week. “Yeah, well, we're gonna find out.”

Bob McIntyre of the liberal group Citizens for Tax Justice suspects Trump's tax returns, if made public, would undermine the political image the candidate has crafted of a brilliant businessman with what his campaign has called “tremendous cash flow”.

Trump may be worried that “he'd show very little income on his tax returns compared to his wealth claims,” McIntyre said, adding that Trump's returns could also show that he “writes off everything he has in his life — the hairdo, the plane — as business expenses.”

Trump has repeatedly said that he would be open to sharing his returns. In 2011, he said he would release them after President Obama released his long-form birth certificate but never did after the certificate's release. In 2014, he said he would “absolutely” release them “if I decide to run for office.” Last year, he said he would release them when “we find out the true story on Hillary’s emails.”

To back his refusal, Trump has released a letter from his tax lawyers that said his tax returns had been audited by the IRS since 2002, and that audits on the returns since 2009 were still underway.

The lawyers' letter also said returns from 2002 to 2008 had been closed administratively by the IRS, meaning their audits had been completed. Trump said in an interview that he would still not release those returns because “they're all linked.”

But experts say that Trump is free to release his tax records. President Richard Nixon released his returns while under audit. Nothing, including an audit, “prevents individuals from sharing their own tax information,” an IRS spokesman said.

The only window into Trump's handling of his income taxes came during the 1981 New Jersey gambling commission report.

Trump had submitted his 1978 and 1979 returns to the regulators as part of an application for a casino license. State records summarizing the returns show that Trump claimed that his combined income during those two years was negative $3.8 million, allowing him to pay no taxes. A few years earlier, he had told The New York Times he was worth more than $200 million.

Tax analysts say it is possible that Trump pays very low income taxes, or no taxes at all, using tactics available to wealthy investors and developers, such as depreciating the value of real estate.

When asked this week whether he pays income taxes, Trump said, “I will give that to you as soon as I get my audit finished.” He added later, “But with that being said, when you're in the real estate business, you do have certain tax advantages.”

Trump has benefited from public money by aggressively seeking large tax reductions at developments including Trump Tower.

His first major development, the Grand Hyatt Hotel in midtown Manhattan, built in partnership with Chicago's wealthy Pritzker family, was made possible with the help of a New York City tax subsidy worth $400 million over 40 years, according to city records.

It was New York's first-ever tax abatement for a commercial property, secured by Trump with help from his developer father's political allies, according to Trump: The Deals and the Downfall, a biography on Trump's developments by investigative reporter Wayne Barrett.

Trump has defended his use of public tax assistance to boost private projects. He said opponents of such government supports, including some conservatives, are out of touch with reality.

“The true conservative philosophy is that a thing like that shouldn't happen. But they're in the world of the make-believe,” Trump said in an interview. “The real world is that without certain tax abatements, you have a choice. The job could get built … or you don't have to have anything. It could just go stagnant, and a town can die.”

Trump's strategy to ease his company's tax burden has resulted in sore feelings in some communities, where local governments rely heavily on tax receipts from large businesses.

In Ossining, New York, home to a Trump National Golf Club, town officials say that a tax break being sought by the company would cost their coffers more than $200,000 a year.

In seeking the reduction, Trump’s lawyers have claimed that the club is worth far less than the roughly $15 million value assessed by the city.

Trump's lawyers have filed papers with the state claiming that the “full market value” of the property is $1.4 million. The same golf course appears on Trump's new financial disclosure form released this week as part of his presidential campaign — valued by him at more than $50 million.

Trump lawyer Alan Garten did not respond to questions about the discrepancy.

Ossining Town Supervisor Dana Levenberg, a Democrat, expressed frustration that Trump seemed to be gaining “at other people’s loss.”

“It's hard to look at someone who talks about their wealth frequently and think they got that successful on other people's backs,” she said.


• Drew Harwell is a national business reporter at The Washington Post.

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Read more on this topic:

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 • Fact Checker: Trump's false claim that ‘there's nothing to learn’ from his tax returns

 • Mitt Romney believes ‘there's a bombshell in Donald Trump’s taxes’

 • Yes, Donald Trump could release his old tax returns if he wanted to

 • Trump's business booms as he runs for president, financial disclosures show


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« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2016, 01:06:00 pm »


from The Washington Post....

When it comes to lying, Trump is in a class by himself

By RUTH MARCUS | 9:00PM EDT - Friday, May 20, 2016

Hillary Clinton, left, and Donald Trump. — Photograph: Agence France-Presse/Getty Images.
Hillary Clinton, left, and Donald Trump. — Photograph: Agence France-Presse/Getty Images.

STONEWALLER, shape-shifter, liar. I wrote this week about how an all-but-certain presidential nominee embodied these characteristics, prompting comments from readers observing, with varying degrees of snarkiness, that they had assumed I was referring to Hillary Clinton.

My target was Donald Trump, but these readers raise a reasonable and important question: Can't the same criticism I heaped on the presumptive Republican nominee be applied to the Democratic front-runner? To all politicians, for that matter? Am I just whaling on Trump and going soft on Clinton because I disagree with Trump's positions and agree, for the most part, with Clinton's?

Some will conclude that I am simply in the tank for Clinton, willfully blind to her faults. (On that score, full disclosure: My college-age daughter has volunteered for the Clinton campaign as an unpaid intern this summer.)

But I'd make two countervailing points. First, I have been a tough critic of Clinton where it was merited: on her bone-headed decision to use a private email account and her clumsy handling of its aftermath, on her relentless speechifying and her refusal to disclose the transcripts of these remarks, on her about-face on trade.

Second, and this goes to the question of whether my assessment of Trump is motivated, intentionally or subconsciously, by ideological disagreement: In the three presidential election cycles during which I have been an opinion writer, I have never used language anywhere near that strong about previous Republican nominees.

Because Trump is different — in degree more than in kind, but in his case the difference of degree is a yawning chasm. All politicians deflect unwanted questions and demands for information (stonewaller). All evolve, if not outright flip-flop (shape-shifter). All, at times, say things that turn out to be untrue (liar). What puts Trump in a different league is his outright unwillingness to abide by the customary norms of disclosure (releasing tax returns); his reversals on issues within the course of a single interview, no less a single campaign; and his determined refusal ever to acknowledge error even when confronted with irrefutable facts to the contrary.

Contrast Clinton, which is not to say that she is pure or angelic.

On stonewalling, it is fair to say that Clinton has a penchant for secrecy. When Bill Clinton first ran for president in 1992, the Clintons declined to release tax returns prior to 1980, which would have revealed the quick $100,000 profit that Hillary Clinton made trading commodities. At the same time, the Clintons did release more than a decade's worth of tax returns back then, and more since. Transparency is not Clinton's first instinct. But Trump's refusal to release his returns is so far outside historical practice that he makes Clinton look like the epitome of openness.

On shape-shifting, Clinton is not alone among politicians in altering positions in ways that can fairly be interpreted to accord with political interests. She said she was opposed to same-sex marriage when that position was politically convenient, and she changed that position when the political climate changed. She was for free trade agreements before she was against them, first praising the Trans-Pacific Partnership as the “gold standard” of trade deals and then assailing it.

Yet voters, agree or disagree, can have reasonable confidence about Clinton's basic worldview and where she stands on issues. Trump is erratic. He stakes out a position one minute (punishing women who have abortions) and abandons it the next. He is against raising the minimum wage, but then supports a higher wage, or maybe not. He has a tax plan but might totally change it.

On lying, one of the common counts against Clinton involves her statements about what prompted the Benghazi, Libya, attack. Space prevents re-litigating that issue here, but the accusation of deliberate lying remains unfounded. As PolitiFact concluded, “There simply is not enough concrete information in the public domain for … anyone to claim as fact that Clinton did or did not lie to the Benghazi families.” The Washington Post's fact-checker, Glenn Kessler, similarly found there was not “enough evidence to label Clinton a liar”.

Clinton's handling of another “lie” is instructive. At several points during the 2008 campaign, Clinton described “landing under sniper fire” in Bosnia in 1996; video debunked that account. But confronted with conflicting evidence, Clinton acknowledged that she “misspoke”. Has Trump ever backed down from his bevy of demonstrably false statements?

My point here is not that Clinton is a perfect politician — far from it. Still, she plays within the goal posts of ordinary political behavior. Trump operates far outside any of the usual lines.


Ruth Marcus is a columnist for The Washington Post, specializing in American politics and domestic policy.

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do you know much about that old crow hillary clinton

she's the world record holder for biggest liar
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And there you have the problem laid bare.
The people have had a gutsful of conventional politicians and their carpetbagging, devious deceit.

I have American friends who don't really want to vote for Trump, but who state they will, in an effort to prevent the disaster of Clinton attaining the presidency.
I personally don't like the chances of stopping her.  As soon as she has kneecapped the rest of her democrat rivals, most of their supporters will come over to the Clinton camp and will then overwhelm Trump, much the same as McCain was overwhelmed when he was in the identical position as Trump an election ago.
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« Reply #106 on: May 25, 2016, 11:57:31 am »


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Like cancer endorsing rabies: The NRA embraces Trump

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist | 2:01PM PDT - Tuesday, May 24, 2016

A poisonous symmetry.
A poisonous symmetry.

IT WAS exactly as gross an act of public coitus as you might imagine, the moment the Cult of the Gun embraced the Gloating Orange Madman, AKA when the National Rifle Association officially endorsed Donald Trump for president. And lo, the heavens did cringe and history did bury its face in its hands, and scream.

It must be acknowledged: There is a kind of pitiless symmetry here. Trump and the NRA make a far more insidious bedfellows than it might initially appear, given how both are comprised of the same sociocultural toxins: vicious intolerance, outlandish conspiracy theories, fake statistics, patriarchal megalomania, racism, shameless lying and truly acidic levels of paranoia, all coupled to a love of authoritarianism, mass incarceration and 5th-grade fantasies of macho vigilante justice. Both agree, in no uncertain terms, that concepts like kindness, inclusiveness and thoughtful humanitarianism are for “losers”, and have no place in American discourse.

Which is why it’s only moderately ironic that Trump doesn't really care about gun culture, per se — and when he has mentioned it in the past, his views were sometimes fairly… liberal. He formerly supported the assault weapons ban, agreed with Obama regarding the horrific Newtown massacre, seemed to hold relatively reasonable opinions — if you can call anything that passes through his miasmatic slaughterhouse of a brain an actual opinion — on gun control.

But everyone knows Donald Trump cares as much for unwavering principles as a rat cares for classical music. Trump doesn't do integrity, or compassion. He does rage, illogic and free-association defamation, all tied to a bully's shrugging contempt for honesty, intelligence and empathy.

Translation: Trump might not care about guns, but he definitely cares about what guns — and the NRA — represent: fear, authority, keeping the masses drunk on ignorance and anxiety, so as to maintain his influence and ensure the TV cameras are always pointed his way.


It's almost... thoughtful. But don't be fooled.
It's almost... thoughtful. But don't be fooled.

As for the NRA, turns out Trump is a perfect sort of bloviated antihero. He cares even less about facts and truth than they do. He is even more apt to spin the dark lie of America's bogus exceptionalism into “truth”. He's even more likely to posit insane, childish conspiracy theories about what kind of dangerous (Muslim Mexican feminist scientific intellectual progressive) wolf is at the door.

Translation: As long as kissing the barrel of a gun on camera brings raves among Trump's white male base, he's all for it. Never mind that guns, of course, bring nothing of value to the American experiment. Never mind that they do not protect, they do not heal, they do not unite. Who cares that communities, families, neighborhoods, relationships, marriages and melting pots and cultural harmony all suffer and bleed under their rule.

It always bears repeating: Guns are designed, built and sold for a single purpose: to annihilate life — usually human — as quickly and efficiently as possible. They are handheld apocalypse. They are the devil in a billion tiny metal casings. Where guns dominate, love forsakes. Where vulgar paranoia rules, guns profligate. No wonder Trump is the NRA's new BFF. They are equal-opportunity destroyers.


Trump knows how to prey on the paranoid fears of angry white males.
Trump knows how to prey on the paranoid fears of angry white males.

To defend Trump or the NRA at any real depth is to defend the worst in the human animal, the ugliest tendencies and most cynical, antagonistic compulsions. They both endorse the same spiritual gracelessness, the same moral disintegration. They are both anti, not pro. They both constrict, not expand. They offer zero joy, only fear. They both mean the world ill.

Do you wish to test this fact? That's easy: just try to criticize either one.

You will receive death threats, savage wishes for violence or gruesome illness on your person and that of your loved ones, be called names so puerile and full of hate as to be wrought of faeces and phlegm and the blood of spiders.

Conversely, offer either one your blind, unending support, and get yourself a creepy pat on the back and membership into a deeply paranoid cult of white males who've been trained and indoctrinated — by Rush, by Fox News, by mal-education — to have all sorts of reasons to be furious, none of which they fully understand, largely because they're not really true in the first place. Who cares? Rage is the new STFU.


Like a child with a bomb.
Like a child with a bomb.

Meanwhile, as you were reading that paragraph, someone was just killed by a handgun in America. Probably a woman. Or a toddler. Or a toddler shot and killed someone else. Meanwhile, while you were reading this column, someone's heart was made perceptibly more cold and uncaring by Trump.

Calculating the exact number of gun deaths in America per day, week, or year is extremely difficult, but one thing's for sure: the data is gruesome and culturally ruinous, no matter who's counting. And polls about Trump's popularity — or savage lack thereof — are everywhere.

Far more difficult to measure is the toxic atmosphere of fear, of lies, of the American experiment gone dark and sour that both Trump and the NRA simultaneously create and feed on. The air they breathe is pure poison. Gun culture is already our nation's most debilitating cancer, and it eats at our very core. Throw in Trump's rabid attack-dog worldview, and the country is in for one devastating infection indeed.


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« Reply #107 on: May 25, 2016, 12:42:39 pm »

mark moron just had to slip  that in

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Trump knows how to prey on the paranoid fears of angry white males.

why?

because mark moron is a weak paranoid lil boy who get his jollies calling people naughty names
he needs to sit down to pee

i would love to watch someone shove his coffee cup right up his arse

with a bit of luck someone might shoot him and save him from feeling all that white guilt,he's ashamed of being a white male,

maybe these gentlemen could do the job just for fun

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Mark Morford “hits the nail right on the head!”
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« Reply #109 on: May 25, 2016, 03:14:49 pm »


from The Dominion Post....

The prospect of a President Donald Trump
is a hair-raising thought indeed


By JOE BENNETT | 5:00AM - Wednesday, 25 May 2016

All hail the chief? Is the world ready for a President Donald Trump? — Photo: Reuters.
All hail the chief? Is the world ready for a President Donald Trump? — Photo: Reuters.

SIX MONTHS from now the Americans will elect Trump as president. To find out why you can look at his policies, such as they are, or his hair, such as it is. Each will tell you the same thing.

His policies, such as they are, aren't much, but they have the virtue of simplicity, which appeals to the voters he appeals to. Those policies all derive from the slogan ‘Make America great again’, implying a return to the good old days when cars were big, Mexicans maids, blacks barely visible and the Chinese knew their place which was in poverty. And in the Soviet Union there was a clearly defined national enemy to enjoy pointing an unbeatable military at.

To get back to this Eden, Trump plans to export immigrants, build a wall, slap tariffs on Chinese goods and demonise Islam. None of it will work as policy but that doesn't matter. What matters is that it is working as rhetoric and will get him into the White House.

For obvious reasons Americans like the notion of making America great again and I have no doubt that Trump thinks that's what he wants to achieve. But it isn't. It's just Trump's conscious mind finding a way to justify a decision that his unconscious mind has already taken. The reason Trump wants to be president has nothing to do with America. He wants to be president only so as to be president.

In this, of course, he differs not one jot from Hillary Clinton or indeed from our own prime minister who admits he wanted the job from the age of 10. At 10 years old John Key didn't want to be prime minister because he believed that New Zealand needed to be put on the right true neo-liberal path to prosperity. No, he wanted the job because he wanted the job. But at least he admits it. Trump doesn't. Indeed I doubt that Trump knows it.

Trump is 69, just one year shy of the Biblical allocation, an age at which the balloon of virility can go limp. And what better to reinflate that balloon than an injection of power? It's like trading in an old wife for a young one. It's compensation for a waning sperm count. And if you doubt that this is Trump's real reason for wanting the presidency you have only to look at his hair. The vanity, the arrogance, the lack of self-knowledge and the terror of impotence, they are all there in that thing on his head, that helmet, that pelt, that combed roadkill.

The United States of America invented age denial and it remains the only place on earth where the late Joan Rivers' face could be considered a face. Granddad in any American sitcom has a full set of gull-white teeth and a thatch of hair like the shagpile in Trump Tower. Even when Reagan's brain was short-circuiting, his quiff still stood an inch tall and dripped hair dye. This is a society where the symptoms of age are the stamp of weakness rather than of wisdom. So deny it, fake it, deceive others if you can. Hence Trump's hair. Just like his policies it is founded on nostalgia for a lost golden age.

“Look,” he exclaimed at a rally, tugging on his forelock, “look, it's all mine, it's REAL!” That he bothers to say it shows he knows it isn't so. His coiffure is as elaborate as an 18th century dandy's wig. The places where his hair still grows are the places where my hair still grows, which is on the sides and the back. And there he lets it grow to prodigious length and then he flicks it up and over to the places where a young man's hair grows which are top and front. And there he curls it and bouffes it and sprays it into place and his forehead disappears and his pate disappears and lo he is young again.

It is truly remarkable that he can look in the mirror and think that this concoction looks OK, that it doesn't look like roadkill, that it suggests his sperm are still doing press-ups. And it is even more remarkable — and here is the real arrogance born of poverty of mind — that he imagines the voting public will also fall for it, will be deceived by this absurd confection into seeing him as in his prime and just the chap they need to lead the biggest army on the planet. But the most remarkable thing of all is that it's working.


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lol  Grin

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« Reply #113 on: May 29, 2016, 11:42:30 am »

nukes are a really silly idea lol


Donald Trump supports having nukes.

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« Reply #114 on: May 29, 2016, 12:13:49 pm »

You call him silly
but i think Donald Trump might have a cunning fox living on his head telling him what he needs to say to win the elections  Grin lol

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from The Washington Post....

Judge bashed by Trump orders release of company records

By TOM HAMBURGER | 5:45PM EDT - Saturday, May 28, 2016

A FEDERAL JUDGE has ordered the release of internal Trump University documents in an ongoing lawsuit against the company, including “playbooks” that advised sales personnel how to market high-priced courses on getting rich through real estate.

The Friday ruling, in which Judge Gonzalo Curiel cited heightened public interest in presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, was issued in response to a request by The Washington Post. The ruling was a setback for Trump, whose attorneys argued that the documents contained trade secrets.

Curiel's order came the same day that Trump railed against the judge at a boisterous San Diego rally for his handling of the case, in which students have alleged they were misled and defrauded. The trial is set for November.

Trump, who previously questioned whether Curiel's Hispanic heritage made him biased due to Trump's support for building a wall on the Mexican border, said on Friday that Curiel “happens to be, we believe, Mexican.” Trump called the judge a “hater of Donald Trump” who had “railroaded” him in the case.

“I think Judge Curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think it's a disgrace that he is doing this,” Trump said.

In his order, Curiel noted that Trump had emerged as a leading presidential candidate over the course of the civil case against Trump University and that Trump had “placed the integrity of these court proceedings at issue.” The judge pointed to a previous case to say that courts deciding on public disclosure must weigh “whether a party benefitting from the order of confidentiality is a public entity or official; and … whether the case involves issues important to the public.”

Trump University was started in 2004 to offer courses in entrepreneurship under the Trump brand. Trump gave his blessing, according to court documents reported previously by The Post, becoming a 93 percent owner of the new enterprise.

Two class action lawsuits being considered in San Diego have accused Trump University of using deceptive practices as it brought in millions of dollars from customers who were told they would learn Trump's techniques to become successful in the world of real estate. Trump and his attorneys have vigorously denied the fraud claims, pointing to high ratings that students gave their courses at the time.

The Post intervened in April, arguing that Trump's pursuit of the presidency made his business dealings a matter of public interest and that an inactive company had no compelling reason to maintain secrecy.

Some of the firm's internal documents previously became public. A 2010 “playbook” published by Politico, for instance, directed sales people to rank students based on their liquid assets to determine who to target for buying courses.

Trump and his attorneys have said the company would return in some form after the case is resolved and that it would be damaged by the release of the marketing material.

Curiel seemed unconvinced. Trump's “assertion that the information retains any commercial value is speculative given the lack of any support for the statement that Trump University ‘may’ resume operations,” the order released on Friday said.

Curiel ordered that the playbooks and other records, numbering about 1,000 pages, be released by Thursday, June 2nd, allowing time to redact telephone numbers and other personal information about the company.

In addition to the class action cases, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a $40 million lawsuit in 2013 alleging that Trump had defrauded more than 5,000 individuals through Trump University, which was never licensed as an educational institution.

Schneiderman alleged in the suit that Trump personally earned $5 million from the enterprise, in which sales personnel were assigned to get people to pay $1,495 for a three-day seminar in real estate techniques. In selling the courses, Trump released a marketing video that said, “We are going to have professors and adjunct professors that are absolutely terrific … and these are all people who are going to be handpicked by me.”

One of the university's top executives, Michael Sexton, subsequently testified in one of the class action suits that “none of the professors at the live events” were handpicked by Trump. Depositions released in March quote Trump acknowledging a lack of close involvement with mentors and students.

The fraud allegations were highlighted during this year's campaign for the GOP presidential nomination by some of Trump's competitors and by a super PAC that opposed Trump.

Campaign and legal representatives for Trump could not be reached for comment on Saturday. However, Jill A. Martin, vice president and assistant general counsel for the Trump Organization, said in a written statement in March that the allegations had “no substance.” She added that “Trump University was a professionally run company which provided students with a valuable and substantive education and the tools to succeed in business and real estate.”


• Tom Hamburger covers the intersection of money and politics for The Washington Post.

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Read more on this topic:

 • Donald Trump billed his ‘University’ as a road to riches, but critics call it a fraud

 • What Trump said under oath about the Trump University fraud claims


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5.834K comments posted now.

Imagine wading your way through that lot and reading each one?

Good to see the judge effectively telling Donald Trump to “get stuffed!”
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nukes are a really silly idea lol


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