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« on: January 06, 2016, 01:47:22 pm »



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British lawmakers will soon debate whether
to ban Donald Trump from the U.K.


By ADAM TAYLOR and NIRAJ CHOKSKI | 4:05PM EST - Tuesday, January 05, 2016

Front pages of British newspapers on December 9th, which were published after Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said that the Metropolitan Police are scared to patrol certain Muslim areas of London. — Photograph: Ben Pruchnie/Getty Images.
Front pages of British newspapers on December 9th, which were published after Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said
that the Metropolitan Police are scared to patrol certain Muslim areas of London. — Photograph: Ben Pruchnie/Getty Images.


BRITISH lawmakers have scheduled a debate for later this month on whether to ban Donald Trump from entering their country.

The decision comes after more than 560,000 people signed a petition calling for such a ban — well over the 100,000 legally required to prompt a parliamentary debate. A separate petition opposed to banning Trump generated nearly 40,000 signatures.

The debate will be held January 18th and can be watched online.

House of Commons Petitions Committee Chairwoman Helen Jones said that the debate “will allow a range of views to be expressed,” according to the Associated Press. Any conclusion reached by the lawmakers will not be binding, the wire service reported.

The petition to ban Trump was launched after the American billionaire and leading Republican presidential candidate issued a series of controversial comments about Muslims. Trump's comments — particularly his suggestion that some areas of London are so full of radical Muslims that police are too scared to go there — have earned rebuke from a number of prominent Britons.

In an unusually disdainful statement, London's Metropolitan Police said, “Mr. Trump could not be more wrong.”

London Mayor Boris Johnson, a member of the right-wing Conservative Party who is tipped by some to be the next British leader, also responded: “The only reason I wouldn't go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”

British Prime Minister David Cameron described Trump's comments as “divisive, stupid and wrong.”

But the petition to ban Trump from entering Britain could go beyond words. The British Home Office really does reserve the right to refuse entry to foreigners coming to the country to speak under the unacceptable behaviors or extremism exclusion policy.

Anti-Muslim American speakers such as Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have been blocked from entering the country by these rules before, as have extremist Islamic preachers and others whose presence the home secretary has decided would “not be conducive to the public good.”

Some prominent politicians, including Jack Dromey, home affairs spokesman of the opposition Labour Party, and Natalie Bennett, leader of the Green Party, have backed the proposed Trump ban.

To an American reader, banning someone from entering the country because of words they've uttered may seem extreme, but Britain and much of Europe have a very different attitude toward free speech. There has been some debate in the country as to whether to ban the Islamic State's signature flag, for example. In theory, at least, anti-Muslim sentiment is dealt with just as seriously.

Even so, Trump, who has considerable business interests in Britain and personal ties to Scotland in particular, may be in luck.

Helen Fenwick, a professor at Durham Law School, notes that some supporters of the Trump ban say that the American businessman should be banned from the country because he has incited hatred on the grounds of religion, something made illegal by Britain's hate speech legislation. However, Fenwick doubts that Trump's comments would fall within that definition — his comments were insulting rather than threatening, she notes.

Fenwick adds that if the current home secretary, Theresa May, took a broader definition of “hate speech,” Trump could possibly be banned; but that would be unlikely.

The British government has indicated that it would not refuse Trump entry, despite the apparent popularity of the sentiment. George Osborne, a high-ranking Conservative cabinet member, told the Daily Telegraph in December that it wouldn't be right for Britain to ban candidates before the U.S. election, adding that although Trump's comments were “profoundly wrong,” it would be better to engage him in debate.

That appears to be the approach of the Muslim Council of Britain, which released a statement to say that if Trump does visit Britain in the near future, it would be happy to organize a multi-faith delegation to accompany him as he tours areas of London with large Muslim populations.

The council said it would even pay for his lunch.


• Adam Taylor writes about foreign affairs for The Washington Post. Originally from London, he studied at the University of Manchester and Columbia University.

• Niraj Chokshi is a general assignment reporter for The Washington Post.

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Read more on this topic:

 • London police offer Donald Trump a reality check

 • Scotland cuts ties with Donald Trump. He says it should be ‘thanking me’ instead.

 • The world reacts to Trump's proposed ban on Muslims entering the U.S.

 • Do other countries have Donald Trumps? Of course they do.

 • Poll: Canadians reject Donald Trump's rhetoric on Muslims


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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 02:14:16 pm »

funny thing i heard the english empire doesn't rule the world anymore but they are still sucking up to saudi arabia because those murderous scum have bought up a lot of london and the brit banks and government are kissing their asses

if trump becomes the american leader watch them brit gov fascist crawl out from under their damp rocks and kiss trumps ass

screw the corrupt british government if trump becomes president he can ban them dictator pussies from coming to america or even have them redcoats whacked by the cia lol

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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 02:26:57 pm »

screw the corrupt british government if trump becomes president he can ban them dictator pussies from coming to america or even have them redcoats whacked by the cia lol




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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 03:20:48 pm »

The strange thing about Trump, is no matter what outrageous statement he makes, his popularity keeps rising.
Actually, I guess it shows more what people think of Obama, that they are that desperate....  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 04:26:59 pm »

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The strange thing about Trump, is no matter what outrageous statement he makes, his popularity keeps rising.
Actually, I guess it shows more what people think of Obama, that they are that desperate....  Undecided


Well.....it actually shows that there are a shitload of retards & simpletons in certain parts of the USA.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 04:49:05 pm »

....mmmm.....soon we will be able to watch as Hillary brings Putin and the fundamentalist ragheads under control Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 05:17:07 pm »

ktj your stupid name calling is wasted in this group
you should get out in the real world,dump your government train driving job and go on welfare because at the moment you're being paid much more than your worth.
and you would save our nz taxpayers some money we can give your job to a poor syrian refugee for lower wages a win win for the left

get out take over the world call, yourself chairman bruce chief commissar of the workers party then make the earth into a communist wet dream with a commie boot on every neck  Grin

some us people would vote for hillary clinton's head on a stick it's a shame that her husband bill is a well known rapist and sexual preditor at least 14 women say so how progressive is that.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 05:53:46 pm »

...we can be assured that Hillary won't suck up to anybody......she'll give Monica a call to do the dirty work Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2016, 06:46:43 pm »

.....mmm.....I reckon those three in the foreground need to be interviewed...they look suspicious  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2016, 08:44:47 pm »

BRUCEY the stupid CHUMP



chairman bruce chief commissar of the workers party please fix the racial problem in america where all the white people are racist lol

some whites are racist some blacks are racist and now i understand why
it's because braindead shits like brucey and horsey and the left wing media
are trying to cause it
because of their twisted backward logic

1 the best thing to do would be separate blacks and whites right ?

2 or stop whining like a bitch dog and get on with your life ?

3  we have a race war and all kill each other ?

so i will need to get rid of my black brown and yellow friends to keep the black racist people happy  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2016, 01:34:51 pm »


from the Los Angeles Times....

Will Donald Trump crash the Golden Globes?

By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM PST - Friday, January 08, 2016



WITH the Golden Globes on Sunday, we have entered the heart of the awards season. The Grammys are coming up and, at the end of February, the big one: the Academy Awards. With so much attention aimed at so many stars, how will the country’s biggest political prima donna be able to resist a grab for the spotlight?

For more than half a year, Donald Trump has demonstrated the power of celebrity. He has taken and held the lead in the race for the Republican presidential nomination largely through his ability to hog attention. The media reaction to Trump has been truly Pavlovian; Trump rings the bell of controversy, and political reporters and pundits start salivating and wagging their tails.

This last week, Trump managed to grab a prominent spot on the cable and broadcast news shows for several days with the cheapest of cheap shots: attacking Bill Clinton's legendary horniness. In the 1990s, comedians and cartoonists mined the details of Clinton's seamy sex life for every last ounce of satire. Who knew anyone could still find a nugget of interest in this overworked material?

Apparently Trump knew. Just a few tweets about the randy days of Hillary Clinton's once-wayward husband got Trump another several days of free publicity. Trump is hooked on the attention. Whenever the political chatter begins to veer toward other candidates, The Donald pulls up Twitter and sends out another 140 characters of insult and bombast.

Soon, the Hollywood stars will begin striding down the red carpets, getting interviews and face time on camera. How can Trump not want to be there, too? Maybe he will not physically crash the party, but he doesn't have to. Imagine if Jeffrey Tambor picks up some gold for his portrayal of a transsexual in Transparent or Eddie Redmayne is a winner for a similar role in The Danish Girl. Trump could quickly tweet something about perverts and political correctness and instantly be in the news. What if Julia Louis-Dreyfus gets another award for Veep, in which she plays a self-promoting, wildly incompetent female president? The Trump tweet comparing Julia to Hillary writes itself.

And, should Max Max: Fury Road come up with a Golden Globe, Trump could boldly tweet a claim to be the perfect leader for a dystopian future where everyone is angry and the biggest bully rules. For once, he would not be exaggerating.


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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2016, 02:35:41 pm »

Yet more verbal vomit & bullshit from Horsey.

A wee piece of advice for the gullible........Horsey is full-of-shit.

Believe anything he says or posts or publishes at your peril. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2016, 02:48:00 pm »

Yet more verbal vomit & bullshit from Horsey.

A wee piece of advice for the gullible........Horsey is full-of-shit.

Believe anything he says or posts or publishes at your peril. Wink


Have you ALWAYS been too STUPID to think up things for yourself instead of merely copying what others with superior intellectual capacity to you have already posted?
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 10:55:52 am »

Perhaps we should be asking what is Trump's agenda. What does he expect to gain from all this. Apart from the "celebrity" angle, what motivates this man. in one word - Power. Now we all now what they say about power.
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2016, 01:47:30 pm »


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Trump's idea of tough is when somebody else gets hurt

By TOM TOLES | Tuesday, January 12, 2016



ANOTHER BLANK SPOT of the map of Donald Trump has been filled in. The “strong” vs “weak” thing has been clarifying now for some time. This dichotomy is pretty clearly near the heart of his psyche. Don't expect suble here. Strong = good. Weak = bad.

But now we have a little more granular detail that is quite revealing. Donald likes other people to sustain the physical damage part of his “strong” monomania. For example, he likes his football players to be tough and take those concussions for the important goal of his entertainment pleasure. It is quite simply no FUN for him to watch athletes engaged in sporting events if they walk off the field with undamaged brains and the likelihood of a full, unimpaired adult life.

And I'm sure we can look forward to the same kind of attitude about strength in his foreign policy. What good is a foreign policy if American soldiers aren't taking some good solid hits? Donald would be willing to do the same himself. Sure he would. When he was of draft age during the Vietnam War, he was willing to suffer from heel spurs to avoid being drafted. You can be sure he suffered them strongly.

We await further details on this map of Mr. Trump. I expect that if someone discovers he has a porn collection, it will consist of the movie Patton.


• Tom Toles is the editorial cartoonist for The Washington Post and writes the Tom Toles blog. See all of his cartoons HERE.

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U.K. Parliament debate: Donald Trump gets pummeled by the British

By GRIFF WITTE | 3:48PM EST - Monday, January 18, 2016



LONDON — The British Parliament on Monday hosted an extraordinary debate over whether to ban U.S. Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump from visiting the United Kingdom.

The debate, which was triggered by an online petition that described Trump's comments about Muslims as “hate speech”, did not produce any binding decisions. Authority to ban someone from the country rests with the home secretary, not with Parliament. But the exchange gave British lawmakers an unusual chance to weigh in directly on U.S. politics.

Here's how the debate went down at the Palace of Westminster. All times are Eastern Standard Time:

11:30 a.m. — The debate begins with Flynn reading two petitions — one calling for Trump to be banned, and the other saying Britain should “mind our own business!” The petition favoring a ban attracted more than 570,000 signatures. The one opposing a ban received about 40,000. The debate is being held outside the main chamber of the House of Commons, with members gathered in a semi-circle. Several dozen members appear to be present.

11:34 a.m. — Flynn cites other cases when the United Kingdom enacted bans. Many of those, he says, involved “an immediate threat of violence,” which he stresses is different than this case.

11:39 a.m. — Flynn pays tribute to the Unites States as the land of “Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and Barack Obama.” The debate, he says, isn't about disrespecting the United States; it's about the comments of one man.

11:42 a.m. — Flynn says as much as he disagrees with Trump, he worries that banning him would give him a “halo of martyrdom.”

11:44 a.m. — Flynn has been interrupted several times by other members, one of whom calls Trump “a ridiculous figure.” No one has expressed a word of support for Trump, and some have suggested Flynn may be going easy on him.

11:50 a.m. — Labour lawmaker Paul Flynn concludes with a turn-the-other-cheek message, saying Britain should respond to Trump's “words of prejudice” with “a hand of friendship.” Flynn wants to invite Trump to Britain, and show him around. And with that, Flynn yields the floor. Looks like a lot of others are ready to speak.

11:53 a.m. — Scully emphasizes that it's not up to Parliament to decide whether Trump is banned. It's up to the Home Secretary, Theresa May. But, he says: “I'm sure she'll be listening.”

11:55 a.m. — Scully says other bans have been enacted for reasons of “incitement or hatred.” Referring to the idea of banning Trump, he says: “I've never heard of one for stupidity. I'm not sure we should be starting now.”

11:58 a.m. — Paul Scully, a Conservative, says Trump's comments were born out of “fear.” He says he wants to emphasize the positive contributions that immigrants make to British society.

12:06 p.m. — Tulip Siddiq, a Labour member from north London, is the next to rise. She supports keeping Trump out, saying, “I draw the line at freedom of speech when it imports a violent ideology.” The government's option to ban people is intended to protect the public. It should be applied to Trump, and he should be banned from visiting “the multicultural country that we are so proud of.”

12:10 p.m. — Edward Leigh, a Conservative backbencher, says those who want to shut down a demagogue may be guilty of demagoguery themselves. “If we only allow freedom of speech for those we agree with, is that free speech at all?” He condemns Trump, and says he's personally pro-gun control, pro-public health care and has nothing in common politically with Trump. But he says banning Trump is an attempt to “shut down the debate over immigration.”

12:15 p.m. — There doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm for a ban — at least so far. Robinson adds his voice to those saying Trump should be invited to Britain so he can be shown how wrong he is, rather than banned. Trump, he says, is “a ridiculous xenophobe. But someone we don't need to promote any further.”

12:19 p.m. — Gavin Robinson, a member of the Democratic Unionist Party from Northern Ireland, is also using the opportunity of this debate to rip his opponents, including republicans in Northern Ireland and nationalists in Scotland who, he says, once welcomed Trump with open arms but now condemn him. Trump, who's of Scottish heritage, has invested heavily in Scottish golf courses and was until recently a business ambassador for Scotland.

12:27 p.m. — Add another to the list of those opposing a ban. Tom Tugendhat, a Conservative backbencher, says the United Kingdom has no business intervening in American politics. “While I think this man is crazy,” Tugendhat says, “I will not be the one to silence his voice.”

12:30 p.m. — Naz Shah, a Labour member, brings up the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. who, she says, “deserves more recognition today than does Donald Trump.” She says the way to defeat Trump is to “challenge him with goodness.” As a Muslim woman, she would be banned from the United States under Trump's plan. But she won't support banning him from the United Kingdom. Instead, she wants to invite him to Bradford, “the curry capital of Britain.” She would serve him food and take him to the mosque, she said.

12:37 p.m. — Trump has weighed in. Or at least, one of his executives has. Sarah Malone, executive vice president of Trump International Golf Links, said in a statement: “It is absurd that valuable parliamentary time is being wasted debating a matter raised as part of the American Presidential election. For the UK to consider banning someone who made a statement in America, about American boarders [sic] during a US election campaign is ridiculous.”

12:38 p.m. — Everyone is condemning Trump today — even the ones who oppose a ban. The opponents say the proponents are inadvertently helping him by “fueling the man's publicity machine.” Or so says Victoria Atkins, a Conservative MP, who says New York was named after a hamlet in her district.

12:42 p.m. — Ahmed-Sheikh says that by condemning Muslims, Trump has condemned Britain's Olympic athletes, its newscasters and its members of Parliament. And he's playing into the Islamic State's narrative, by portraying a clash of civilizations between the West and the Muslim worlds. Others have been banned for anti-gay rhetoric or for Islamist extremism. The government needs to be consistent, and ban Trump for his hateful rhetoric against Muslims. “His remarks are condemning an entire religion,” she says.

12:46 p.m. — Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, a Scottish National Party member, is interrupted by a questioner who describes Trump's comments as “buffoonery,” which should be met “not with a ban, but with the great British response of ridicule.” There are a few cheers for this idea.

12:54 p.m. — If the United Kingdom ban's Trump, where would it stop? So asks a member who seems to be with the majority of the speakers in opposing a ban. Lots of people have extremist views, he says. If you start banning people for saying things that are offensive, “how long would the list be?” He says Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban would be on it.

1:01 p.m. — Monday's debate comes as Britain is grappling with extremism — both Islamist and Islamophobic. Jack Dromey, Labour’s spokesman on home affairs, says allowing Trump to come to the United Kingdom at such a time would be “damaging, it would be dangerous, it would be deeply divisive.” He imagines Trump bringing his rhetoric to Birmingham, a city with a substantial Muslim population, and wonders how that would affect young people there, saying, “the consequences of that would be very serious indeed.” He says Trump and Muslim extremists feed off one another, adding, “ISIS needs Donald Trump and Donald Trump needs ISIS.” Dromey closes with a call for a ban: “Donald Trump is free to be a fool. But he's not free to be a dangerous fool in Britain.”

1:11 p.m. — Before the debate, Trump had threatened to withdraw his planned investment in his Scottish golf courses if Britain went through with a ban. That threat may have had an impact. Corri Wilson, a Scottish National Party member who represents the area that is home to Turnberry, one of the billionaire businessman's golf resorts, read off statistics about the number of jobs created in her area by Trump. She opposes the ban.

1:19 p.m. — Philip Davies, a Conservative, accuses those who want to stamp out intolerance of being intolerant themselves. He says that it's easy to be for “motherhood and apple pie,” but that it takes “real guts” to say things that are controversial. He's not defending Trump. But he is defending Trump's right to speak. Davies is interrupted by another Conservative, Adam Holloway, who says the debate is “embarrassing” for Britain. “We should apologize to the people of the United States,” he says. “It's for them to decide, not us.”

1:24 p.m. — British members of Parliament are exhausting a thesaurus using words to condemn Trump. They've called him “a buffoon”, “a demagogue”, “a joke”. One member called him “an idiot” about five times in three minutes.

1:31 p.m. — Kwazi Kwarteng, one of a relatively small number of black members of Parliament, notes that the debate has been “sanitized” because it has ignored the long tradition of nativism and xenophobia in U.S. history. Nativism, says the historian and Conservative member, is very much within the American political tradition. And Trump is part of that history. He may want to ban Muslims, but “the answer to his ban is not to ban him.” Doing so would only give him more publicity, generating “headlines around the world.” And besides, Trump could win. “And then we would be in the absurd situation of having banned the president of the United States.”

1:45 p.m. — Through a thick brogue, McLaughlin notes that Trump is “the son of a Scottish immigrant. And I apologize for that.” She accuses Trump of “hypocrisy” in his views on immigrants, and urges him to “look to Lady Liberty for some advice.” She says the strongest argument for banning him is “equality.” Others have been banned for similarly hateful remarks, she notes.

1:58 p.m. — Lots of amateur analysis of American politics going on in Parliament right now. Scottish National Party member Anne McLaughlin was just interrupted by a member who wanted to talk about GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz. “Where is the Republican Party going, putting one [candidate] up who's as bad as the other?” she was asked.

2:05 p.m. — Starmer says Trump's most extreme comments came after a recent mass shooting in San Bernardino, California. He was “not the first, and won't be the last, to make comments about a community in the wake of an atrocity.” That points to the need to blame individuals, not communities, following a mass killing. Starmer says it's important to show the Muslim community how much it’s valued. And he says Trump's views are “repugnant.” But he calls a ban on Trump “far too simplistic.”

2:14 p.m. — Keir Starmer, a Labour leader and former chief prosecutor, invites Trump to his constituency, which he says is diverse and where people live in relative harmony. But he notes that his invitation is just one at the end of a long list. If Trump comes to Britain, he'll be very, very busy.

2:18 p.m. — We're well into the evening now, and the debate is winding up. Brokenshire is summarizing for the governing Conservatives. There's no contradiction between being Muslim and being British, he says. Britain would never consider the kind of ban that Trump has proposed.

2:24 p.m. — James Brokenshire, the immigration minister, is being challenged on Prime Minister David Cameron's announcement on Monday that immigrants who are in the United Kingdom on a spousal visa can be ordered to leave the country if they don't make sufficient progress in learning English. Brokenshire says the proposal is not aimed at Muslims. And he steers the conversation back to Trump: “The best way to defeat nonsense like this is to engage in robust democratic debate.” That suggests the government isn't planning a ban.

2:30 p.m. — Paul Flynn, the Labour member who began the debate three hours ago, is back on his feet. People watching — including those in the United States — “have seen Parliament at its very best. They've seen a diverse debate from a diverse Parliament,” he said.

2:31 p.m. — The chair does a cursory call for “aye's” and “no's”. But there’s no actual vote. The debate is over. Watch this space for a recap.


Karla Adam contributed to this report.

• Griff Witte is The Washington Post's London bureau chief. He previously served as the paper's deputy foreign editor and as the bureau chief in Kabul, Islamabad and Jerusalem.

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The many insulting adjectives the British
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By KARLA ADAM | 6:24PM EST - Monday, January 2016



LONDON — During the three-hour debate here in Westminster Hall on whether to ban Donald Trump from the United Kingdom, many British lawmakers extended the hand of friendship.

Trump was invited to have a curry in the city of Bradford, where about a quarter of the population is Muslim, and go on a walkabout in the multi-ethnic area of Brixton, a neighborhood in south London. More than one politician invited him to come along for a visit to a mosque.

But British politicians were notably less courteous when searching for words to describe the Republican presidential front-runner, with lawmakers from across the political spectrum dishing up a dictionary's worth of insulting adjectives.

If Trump were to wander into one of the pubs in her constituency, the Conservative MP Victoria Atkins said, he should be prepared to be called a “wazzock” — British slang for an annoying person. (The Guardian explains that “wazzock” is a mild insult that can be “used on telly without frightening your gran.”) She said that banning Trump would be a disproportionate response but also said his call last month to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the the United States was “bonkers!”

The overall tone of the evening debate was civil and high-minded, with weighty issues thoughtfully discussed amid the name-calling.

And plenty of name-calling there was. Although Britons are normally famous for their understatement, they didn't appear to hold back during the debate, which was triggered after more than 575,000 people signed a petition on a parliamentary website calling to ban Trump from the U.K.

Gavin Robinson, a Northern Irish member of Parliament who said that Trump should be allowed to visit the U.K. so that people could challenge his views, nonetheless called him a “buffoon” and a “ridiculous xenophobe”.

Naz Shah, the Labour politician who invited Trump to join her for a curry, said he was a “demagogue who panders to people’s fears, rather than their strengths.”

To Marcus Fysh, a Conservative politician who said that banning Trump would be counterproductive, he was “the orange prince of American self-publicity.”

Labour shadow minister Jack Dromey, one of the few members of Parliament who argued in favor of the ban — Trump shouldn't be allowed within a thousand miles of the U.K., is how he put it — said that Trump was a “fool” but that he wasn't free to be a “dangerous fool in Britain.”

Labour MP Tulip Siddiq, another lawmaker who supported the ban, said that Britain needed to prevent “a poisonous, corrosive man from entering our country.”

Not everyone was scornful of the business tycoon. Philip Davies, a Conservative politician who didn't go so far as to agree with Trump's views on banning Muslims, praised him for being “straight-talking” and said that Britain needed more people who were less concerned about being politically correct.

It was advice that, arguably, wasn't needed in Westminster Hall on Monday night.


Griff Witte contributed to this report.

• Karla Adam is a reporter in The Washington Post's London bureau. Before joining the Post in 2006, she worked as a freelancer in London for the New York Times and People magazine.

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Donald Trump stirs up the bile of the British

By DANA MILBANK | 6:59PM EST - Monday, January 18, 2016

In a file picture taken on January 16th, 2016, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures while addressing the South Carolina Tea Party Convention at the Springmaid Beach Resort in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. — Photograph: Timothy A. Clary/AFP/Getty Images.
In a file picture taken on January 16th, 2016, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures while addressing the South Carolina
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THE British Parliament set out on Monday afternoon to debate a question that is often argued on this side of pond but has never before been taken up in the halls of Westminster: Is Donald Trump dangerous? Or is he merely a buffoon?

The man who would Make America Great Again, it turns out, has already done a great job of unifying Great Britain. Members of Parliament from across the political spectrum took turns insulting the American billionaire.

“Daft and offensive.”

“Ridiculous xenophobe.”

“Impulsive, not well informed.”

“Objectionable and hateful.”

“Buffoonery.”

“The orange prince of American self-publicity.”

“What is under his hair?”

British legislators giggled as a colleague read aloud some of the puffy plutocrat's utterances on global warming (“it's freezing and snowing in New York”) and on the “great” and “inexpensive” border wall he wants to build.

“Let's be clear: Donald Trump is an idiot,” said Gavin Newlands, an MP from the Scottish National Party.

A Tory MP, declaring Trump “crazy” with “no valid points to make,” said he would like to see Americans challenge Trump with the words that brought down Joe McCarthy: “Have you left no sense of decency?”

“I don't think Donald Trump should be allowed within 1,000 miles of our shores,” said Labour MP Jack Dromey. “Trump is free to be a fool, but he is not free to be a dangerous fool in Britain.”

Still, the result was good news, of sorts, for the Republican presidential candidate: While there was universal consensus that the billionaire developer is appalling, there was little interest in banning him from entering Britain — if only because that would make him a martyr.

Half a million Britons, reacting to Trump's pledge to ban Muslims from entering the United States, had signed a petition calling for Trump to be banned from Britain. A travel ban is up to the Home Office, not Parliament, but legislators decided to have a debate because, as Labour MP Paul Flynn said in introducing the topic, “it is very difficult to ignore the vox pop.”

Flynn was apologetic about the debate because it “might well be interpreted as disrespect” to America. But for Americans watching, it was useful proof that Trump is a reviled and preposterous figure to our most important ally and that America would be the laughing-stock of the world if we elect him.

MP Sarah Wollaston, who represents Dartmouth, noted that the Pilgrims sailed from there four centuries ago “to escape the kind of religious persecution that we are addressing today.” She argued that if Britain were to ban Trump, it “would send a very clear message to the people of the United States about what we feel about those who demonize an entire people for no reason other than their religion.”

On Monday, Trump was at Liberty University in Virginia, warning his evangelical Christian audience that “our country is disappearing fast.” Across the Atlantic, in the Grand Committee Room of Westminster Hall, Tulip Siddiq, a Muslim and an MP, was at that moment speaking about the “need to stop a poisonous, corrosive man from entering our country.” She listed some of his many attacks on women, his racist “dog whistles” and his proposed ban on Muslims.

Some conservatives lamented the sad state of the Republican Party. MP Edward Leigh noted that he's “an extreme right winger” in Britain but asked: “Would I survive in the Republican Party?” (No way.)

Steve Double, another Tory, said he was “surprised” by Trump's support because he “seems to cut right against the heritage and the values that I understand the Republican Party to have.”

But while there was no defense of Trump in the House of Commons, most in the debate thought it counterproductive to ban him from Britain, rather than employing, as one put it, “a classic British response of ridicule.”

That British natural resource was in abundant supply in Parliament on Monday.

Conservative Paul Scully, though calling Trump's conduct “not acceptable for an aspiring world leader,” said travel bans to Britain are issued for “incitement and hatred, but I've never heard of one for stupidity.”

Gavin Robinson, from Northern Ireland, described Trump's style of discourse: “He throws a dead cat on the table, and people stop and listen to him.”

One of the most powerful contributions came from Naz Shah, a “proud British Muslim woman” who called Trump “evil” and a “demagogue”. But she said she wouldn't ban Trump from Britain but rather “invite him for a curry.”

“Given that it is Martin Luther King Day,” she said, invoking the American holiday, “I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear.”


• Dana Milbank writes about political theater in the nation's capital. He joined The Washington Post as a political reporter in 2000.

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