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So Putin left the G20 Talks early... and why?

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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2015, 02:28:48 pm »

 I only have real jobs.....I Betcha Wink

Yes...with nits intellect and very good vision and your ah...um ...well you must be good at something coming from Musturton..you 2 make a great team Wink
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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2015, 02:37:52 pm »

...Putin again proves that he is a dirty little rat Roll Eyes

Russia blocks UN condemnation of shelling of Ukraine city

Published January 25, 2015Associated Press

Jan. 22, 2015: Passengers killed when a trolley bus was damaged by a mortar shell are seen inside a bus in Donetsk, eastern Ukraine. (AP)
UNITED NATIONS –  Russia blocked a Western-backed U.N. Security Council statement Saturday that would have condemned indiscriminate shelling in Ukraine's southeastern city of Mariupol that killed about 30 civilians and injured more than 90.

The blocked statement, obtained by The Associated Press, called for "an immediate de-escalation of violence," implementation of a September cease-fire and an "objective investigation" of Saturday's rocket-fire in Mariupol.

"This attack marks a significant and disturbing escalation in the level of violence in eastern Ukraine," it said.

The proposed statement noted that separatist leader Alexander Zakharchenko announced the start of an offensive against Mariupol "and condemned in the strongest terms such irresponsible announcements."

Russia's U.N. Mission said in a statement that there was no agreement because Britain insisted on condemnation of separatist "self-defense forces" who are backed by Russia. It said Western council members have never condemned any statements or actions by Ukraine's government.

The members of the Security Council are currently on a trip to Haiti.

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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2015, 07:06:50 pm »

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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2015, 07:46:41 pm »

You are starting to repeat yourself..have you been checked for Alzheimer's lately?
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2015, 09:06:36 am »

Cold War-style Russian spy ring unveiled

10:23 AM Tuesday Jan 27, 2015

Three people have been charged in connection with a Cold War-style Russian spy ring that tried to recruit New York City residents as intelligence sources.

The defendants were directed by Russian intelligence official "to gather intelligence on, among other subjects, potential United States sanctions against Russian banks and the United States' efforts to develop alternative energy resources", according to a complaint filed in federal court in Manhattan.

Read more: Who killed Litvinenko? Inquiry opens into ex-KGB man's death

The case was announced on Monday local time by US Attorney General Eric Holder, US Attorney Preet Bharara and FBI officials.

Prosecutors allege one of the defendants, Evengy Buryakov, posed as an employee in the Manhattan office of a Russian bank.


The others, Igor Sporyshev and Victor Podobnyy, held low-level diplomatic positions.

Buryakov was arrested on Monday in the Bronx, New York City. The two other suspects are at large.

The names of their lawyers were not immediately available.

The three men "regularly met and communicated using clandestine methods and coded messages, in order to exchange intelligence-related information while shielding their associations with one another as (foreign intelligence) agents", the complaint said.

"These charges demonstrate our firm commitment to combating attempts by covert agents to illegally gather intelligence and recruit spies within the United States," Mr Holder said in a statement.

"We will use every tool at our disposal to identify and hold accountable foreign agents operating inside this country - no matter how deep their cover."

The investigation was an offshoot of a 2010 case resulting in the arrest of 10 covert agents who infiltrated suburban America.

All 10 pleaded guilty in federal court in Manhattan to conspiracy charges and were ordered out of the country as part of a spy swap for four people convicted of betraying Moscow to the West.

Mr Bharara said the charges "make it clear that - more than two decades after the presumptive end of the Cold War - Russian spies continue to seek to operate in our midst."

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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2015, 10:10:39 am »


That dreaded bogeyman beneath your bed again?

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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2015, 12:59:38 pm »

UN's political chief says deadly Ukraine rocket attacks could be war crimes

1:15 PM Tuesday Jan 27, 2015

Deadly rocket attacks on the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol that "knowingly targeted civilians" violated international humanitarian law and could amount to war crimes, the UN political chief says.

Jeffrey Feltman told an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council that monitors from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe, which examined the rocket's craters, reported the rockets originated from territory controlled by pro-Russian rebel separatists.

Read more: Murray McCully condemns killing of 30 civilians in Ukraine

He said Saturday's attack on Mariupol - a strategic city that could provide a land corridor into Ukraine's Crimean peninsula, which Russia annexed last March - destroyed buildings and hit a market killing "dozens of people, including women and children," and injuring more than 100.


Other reports put the death toll at 30.

"We must all send an unequivocal message: The perpetrators must be held accountable and brought to justice," Mr Feltman said.

The rocket attack came a day after the rebels rejected a September cease-fire agreement and announced they were going on a multi-pronged offensive against the Ukrainian government in a bid to seize more territory.

The rebel stance has upended European attempts to mediate an end to the fighting in eastern Ukraine that has cost at least 5100 lives since April, according to UN estimates.

Mr Feltman called on the rebels "to immediately cease their provocative and violent actions", adhere to international law, and "make good" on their commitment to the cease-fire agreement.

"We also urge the leadership of the Russian Federation to use their influence to call on the rebels to cease hostilities immediately," Feltman said.

"This will be a critical step in stopping the bloodshed."

Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin expressed serious concern at the escalating conflict in the east, blaming the government in Kiev for rejecting a direct dialogue with insurgents in the Donetsk and the Luhansk regions of eastern Ukraine.

He urged Western governments to "stop egging on the Ukrainian hawks", warning that this would only lead to "an even greater catastrophe".

US Ambassador Samantha Power told the council that "Russia's end goal remains the same: to seize more territory and move the line of Russian-controlled territory deeper and deeper into Ukraine".

"This offensive is made in Moscow," she said.

"It is waged by Russian-trained and Russian-funded separatists, who use Russian missiles and Russian tanks, who are backed up by Russian troops, and whose operations receive direct Russian assistance."

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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2015, 08:44:03 pm »

NATO blames Russia for Ukraine violence
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NATO has blamed Russian-backed separatists for a sharp escalation of violence in eastern Ukraine and has called on Moscow to stop destabilising Ukraine.

Alliance Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg criticised Russia's actions and supported Ukraine's independence after NATO and Ukrainian ambassadors held an extraordinary meeting in Brussels on Monday.

Kiev had asked for the meeting in response to a new rebel offensive in eastern Ukraine.

"We condemn the sharp escalation of violence along the ceasefire line in eastern Ukraine by Russia-backed separatists," Stoltenberg told a news conference after the meeting.

Stoltenberg dismissed as "nonsense" allegations by Russian President Vladimir Putin that a NATO legion was fighting alongside Ukraine government troops in the east of the country.

"There is no NATO legion. The foreign forces in Ukraine are Russian," he said.

Despite repeated commitments to work for a peaceful solution, Russia continued to provide the separatists with support, training, forces and advanced equipment, including rocket systems, heavy artillery, tanks, armoured vehicles and electronic warfare systems, he said.

"We call on Russia to stop its support for the separatists immediately, to stop destabilising Ukraine and to respect its international commitments," Stoltenberg said. Russia denies being the driving force behind the rebellion.

NATO has made clear it has no plans to intervene militarily in Ukraine, which is not a NATO member, but it has stepped up cooperation with Kiev, including help with modernising its armed forces.

Diplomats said Ukraine was mainly looking for political support from NATO at the meeting rather than any concrete aid.

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Faced with the worsening situation on the ground, Ukraine has asked some individual countries for additional military assistance, Ukraine's Ambassador to NATO Ihor Dolhov said, but he did not name them or say if any weapons were being supplied.

 - Reuters

ktj.... look here for confirmation of  the FULL STORY:http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/65469388/nato-blames-russia-for-ukraine-violence
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2015, 08:57:59 pm »

Standard & Poor's downgrades Russia's credit rating to junk

3:29 PM Tuesday Jan 27, 2015

Russia's foreign-currency credit rating was cut to junk by Standard & Poor's, putting it below investment grade for the first time in a decade, as policy makers struggle to boost growth amid international sanctions and a drop in oil prices.

S&P, which last downgraded Russia in April, cut the sovereign one step to BB+, according to a statement released today, the same as countries including Bulgaria and Indonesia.

The ratings firm said the outlook is "negative". Russian stocks on US exchanges tumbled with the ruble following the announcement which came after the close of equity trading in Moscow.

The world's biggest energy exporter is on the brink of a recession after oil prices fell to the lowest since 2009 and the US and its allies imposed sanctions over President Vladimir Putin's actions in Ukraine.

The penalties have locked Russian corporate borrowers out of international debt markets and curbed investor appetite for the ruble, stocks and bonds.


"Russia's monetary-policy flexibility has become more limited and its economic growth prospects have weakened," S&P said. "We also see a heightened risk that external and fiscal buffers will deteriorate due to rising external pressures and increased government support to the economy."

The ruble, the world's second-worst performer last year after a 46 per cent plunge against the dollar, plummeted after the S&P decision and closed 6.6 per cent weaker at 68.7990 versus the US currency.

A Bloomberg index of the most-traded Russian stocks in the US ended a three-day gain, tumbling 5.5 per cent.

The yield on Russia's US$3 billion of bonds due 2023 jumped 0.39 percentage point to 7.04 per cent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

That compares with Bank of America's BB US Dollar Emerging Markets Sovereign Index which yields an average 4.62 per cent.

Some investors are prevented from owning debt rated speculative grade. Moody's Investors Service and Fitch Ratings still have Russia as investment grade.

"We had thought that the cut to junk was largely priced in, but the ruble is under pressure now and most likely the weakness will continue in the morning, and there's likely going to be selling in bonds." said Dmitry Polevoy, an economist at ING Groep in Moscow.

A selloff in local-currency bonds, known as OFZs, will be limited because they're still rated above investment grade, according to Polevoy. S&P reduced them to BBB-, one level above junk.

The rating company's move showed "excessive pessimism", said Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov.

"There's no reason to dramatise the situation," Siluanov said. "The decision shouldn't have a further serious impact on the capital market because market participants already priced in the risks of a downgrade to Russia's credit rating."

Policy makers are struggling to contain the country's worst currency crisis since 1998. The central bank shifted to a free-floating exchange rate ahead of schedule in November and is overseeing a 1 trillion-ruble bank recapitalisation plan.

Last month, the central bank took its biggest step to shore up the currency, raising its key interest rate to 17 per cent from 10.5 per cent in a surprise announcement.

"We believe that Russia's financial system is weakening and therefore limiting the central bank of Russia's ability to transmit monetary policy," S&P said. "The central bank faces increasingly difficult monetary policy decisions while also trying to support sustainable GDP growth."

- Bloomberg

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« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2015, 02:12:04 am »


....good to se the U.S. Lending a hand to Ukraine😜

US, Ukraine kick off joint military exercises in defiance of indignation from Russia
Published April 20, 2015
US and Ukrainian soldiers stand guard during opening ceremony of the 'Fiarles Guardian - 2015', Ukrainian-US Peacekeeping and Security command and staff training, in western Ukraine, in Lviv region, Monday, April 20, 2015. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky) (The Associated Press)
YAVORIV, Ukraine –  Troops from the United States and Ukraine have officially opened joint training exercises intended to help bolster Ukraine's defenses against incursions from Russian-backed separatists in the east.

Speaking under driving rain at a military base in the western region of Lviv, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said the armed forces needed to be rebuilt from scratch to deter international military threats.

The exercises have drawn enraged reactions from Russia, which has described them as a potential cause of destabilization. Moscow continues to dismiss mounting evidence of its involvement in fomenting and supporting a separatist insurgency in Ukraine that has claimed more than 6,000 lives over the past year.

The 300 U.S. Army paratroopers involved in the training traveled to Ukraine last week and will be working alongside 900 national guardsmen.
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2015, 11:56:47 am »

Ukraine could be nuclear flashpoint
Peter Huck
25 April, 2015

This week's announcement by the Pentagon that 300 US paratroopers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade had arrived in Lviv to help train Ukrainian national guard units met with a predictable response from the Kremlin.

The US decision, which follows a British deployment of 75 soldiers for the same purpose in February, "could seriously destabilise the situation in Ukraine", said Kremlin spokesman Dmity Peskov. The arrival of the 173rd Airborne, he said, would not help resolve the conflict.

The fight between Ukraine and Russian-backed separatists has killed at least 6116 people as of last week, according to the UN, and heightened Russian-Nato tensions.

The 173rd's deployment arguably violates the February Minsk ceasefire, whereby all foreign forces quit Ukraine. In fact, it is realpolitik, a response to barely disguised Russian military support to the separatists.

The paratroopers will remain for at least six months, training 900 Ukrainian national guardsmen in infantry tactics as part of Operation Fearless Guardian, according to the Pentagon. It is the latest of several US deployments, now backed by fellow Nato member Canada. Last week, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Nato's ex-Secretary-General, said: "We are pretty close to a new Cold War because of Russia's illegal actions in the Ukraine."

In some lights the 173rd and other Nato deployments are a slippery slope as continuing violence, most recently at Shyrokyne, violates the ceasefire. Doves fear Vietnam-style "mission creep", where initial deployments suck in ever more troops, escalate tensions and heighten risk of a wider war.

The Obama Administration has sought to carefully calibrate its response, mixing sanctions - this week Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said existing sanctions will cost US$106 billion ($140 billion) - with army trainers and, from this month, U.S.$75 million in "non-lethal" material, such as Humvees.

The big unknown is if Putin will - and can - succumb to pressure. To some extent he finds himself in a corner; hammered by sanctions, a falling ruble and plummeting oil prices and hoisted by his own nationalistic petard, in which the US and Nato poach Russia's traditional sphere of influence. At a marathon four-hour annual call-in show with Russians last week, Putin accused the US of treating other world powers as "vassal states".

The crisis also points to the West's failure to integrate Russia into Europe, although, given Moscow's authoritarian and kleptocratic character, this may have always been too much to hope for.

"My take is that Russia is set on the path of conflict escalation," says Pavel Baev, Russia expert and senior nonresident fellow at the Brookings Institute. "The room for political manoeuvring is limited not by Western policies, but by the deepening economic crisis in Russia. Every measure that makes the next step in escalating the hostilities more difficult and expensive for Moscow is a step in the right direction."

Doves believe a "new detente" is necessary if a new Cold War, without the safeguards of the old one, is to be averted. This involves some kind of US-Russian parity, wiped out by triumphant American claims it had "won" the Cold War, leaving the US as the world's "indispensable nation".

The crisis - which began when Russia annexed the Crimea in March last year and intensified as separatists seized parts of eastern Ukraine - has revived Cold War-style brinkmanship.

The European Leadership Network cites multiple near-misses between warplanes, airspace violations, emergency scrambles, close maritime calls and simulated Russian bombing attacks on the West. Could a skirmish between pro-West and pro-Russian fighters in Ukraine spiral into a wider conflict involving heavy weapons, tactical nuclear weapons and then - the nightmare scenario - strategic nuclear strikes?

During the Cold War mutually assured destruction - MAD - by nuclear weapons was a deterrent. After the Cuban Crisis President Kennedy warned the US must always avoid leaving an enemy with a stark choice between "humiliating retreat or a nuclear war". Moscow is keen to avoid humiliation PAGE 2 OF 3in Ukraine. Its military planners have said nuclear weapons might even be used against a conventional attack. And Putin was quite open that he would use nukes to hold on to the Crimea.

With hawks like Senator John McCain calling the ceasefire a failure, and demanding US arms shipments to Ukraine, Stephen Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies, history and politics at New York University, warns the risk of a US-Russian war is at its highest since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has moved its Doomsday Clock, a barometer of nuclear tensions, forward to three minutes from midnight. As US-Russian nuclear arms reduction talks are frozen, a new cruise missile, the Iskander, capable of delivering a nuclear warhead, has reportedly been deployed to Kaliningrad, the Russian Baltic enclave. Asked if they could deploy nukes in Ukraine, Russia said, yes, "in principle". No one is sure if surrendering to Russia - letting "aggression go unchecked" in British PM David Cameron's words - will embolden the Kremlin and provoke more land grabs of former Soviet satellite states. Hawks, who draw parallels with Nazi revanchism in the 1930s, cite Russia's 2008 invasion of Georgia. Putin is testing Western resolve. Sending in Nato trainers will force him to back down. Doves argue that Russia feels encircled and fears US subjugation. Military escalation, they say, will stiffen Russia's resolve.

This week The National Interest, a conservative US magazine, argued the US and Russia are "stumbling towards war". The West has yet to formulate a clear Ukraine policy. "On the battlefield of war in Ukraine, Russia has what Cold War strategists named 'escalation dominance': the upper hand at every step up the escalation ladder," it said. "This is a proxy war the United States cannot win and Russia cannot lose - unless America is willing to go to war itself."

Given the nuclear threat, that seems unthinkable. Yet, the possibility that a regional war might spiral beyond control remains a real risk.
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2015, 01:35:32 am »

Ukraine crisis: Russia tests new weapons
By Keir Giles
Conflict Studies Research Centre, Oxford
6 February 2015
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Pro-Russian rebel Strela-10 air defence system, Donetsk, 3 Feb 15
A rebel Strela-10 air defence system on the streets of Donetsk

How many Russians are fighting in Ukraine?
Why is east Ukraine hit by conflict?
Eastern Ukraine has become a testing ground for Russia's new military capabilities.
When Russia last went to war, in Georgia in 2008, it looked like an easy victory. But Russia's generals were deeply concerned at how badly their forces performed in some key areas of modern warfare.
Russia has spent the seven years since then rearming, re-equipping, and retraining, in order to deal with those deficiencies, and to try to close the capability gap with modern Western armies.
Now the results can be seen in eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian separatists have gained ground against Ukrainian government troops.
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Ukraine's army has not gone through the same intensive modernisation process, and is suffering the effects, facing the newer weapons and systems supplied by Russia.
Two key examples are the use of UAVs (drones) for surveillance and targeting, and the use of electronic warfare.
Both technologies were identified as areas of weakness in the Russian forces in 2008, and both have been intensively developed since. Now, they are in widespread use in eastern Ukraine, placing Ukrainian government forces at a strong disadvantage.
Grad rockets used by rebels
Here a rebel Grad rocket system is deployed at a cemetery
Ukrainian forces are short of secure communications systems. The result is that their communications are both subject to jamming, and often also show their location to Russian direction-finding equipment. This can lead to being swiftly targeted by Russian artillery, including Grad and other, more powerful, rocket systems.
As part of the non-lethal aid provided by the US, Ukraine has received special radar to try to pinpoint the source of incoming mortar fire. But their use is limited by the difficulty in communicating the results to other forces.
And, for the time being, Ukraine has not received the more sophisticated systems that would pinpoint the source of fire from longer-range artillery systems.

Tanks and missiles
Ukrainian forces are also outclassed by the tanks arriving from Russia. Not only are these more modern than Ukrainian models, but Ukraine is also short of effective anti-armour weapons in working order.
All of these systems, plus medical support and field hospital equipment, are on the list of Ukrainian requests for support, to increase the survivability of their forces when confronting new Russian military equipment.
Losses of Ukrainian aircraft over the conflict zone show how well-equipped the Russian-backed separatists are for air defence. This includes not just the Buk missile system - blamed for downing Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 - but also others like Strela for use at lower altitudes and shorter ranges, and a wide range of lighter, shoulder-
Most of the Ukrainian army's equipment is also Russian-made

Kiev funeral: Thousands of soldiers have died on both sides in the conflict
Independent experts, as well as Nato, Western leaders and the Kiev government, say there is clear evidence of direct Russian military involvement, despite Russian denials.
As part of its military transformation process, Russia has been practising for conflict with an intensive programme of exercises and manoeuvres, involving tens of thousands of servicemen across the country.
These exercises have been increasing in size and complexity, and often have a storyline which is directly hostile to the West.
Now, in addition, Russia has the benefit of a live testing ground in eastern Ukraine, where it can try out its new weapons, systems and tactics. The results - especially if all of these are tested against any potential new US defensive systems supplied to Ukraine - will help Russia assess how its forces would fare in a direct confrontation with Nato.
Keir Giles is an analyst with the Conflict Studies Research Centre in Oxford, and an Associate Fellow with the Russia and Eurasia Programme at Chatham House in London.
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2015, 10:38:47 am »

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US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation


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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2015, 12:27:06 pm »

...Turns out that your propaganda video ( only took 0.098 seconds to realise that your video was propaganda)....was posted by a website ......"scgnews".....when I went to the website there is no information about who runs the site, or about the organisation...could you please help me...do you know anything about it...I don't like to get news from any Tom Dick or Harry .....or it may be just crap...which all the stuff on that site obviously is😏.....this site makes Putin's personal propaganda site RT look credible😃

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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2015, 01:52:09 pm »

..are you ever sceptical about "news sites"...that have no information about their organisation? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2015, 02:40:11 pm »

Cant you see us media lie all the time all have the same talking points
that repeat like a flock of parrots to stupid people who cant walk and chew gum at the same time

now this might either be true or might be propaganda it hard to know when you don't trust anyone lol

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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2015, 02:52:51 pm »

sorry..i dont watch propaganda video's,any chance of quoting the source...just so i can check their credibility Wink
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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2015, 04:59:51 pm »

Even our government uses propaganda they have a new name for it now days to make sound like something else it's called public relations they understand most of the public are stupid but with the correct talking points from their highly paid public relations=propaganda advisers they can convince most people to believe any load of rubbish the government wants.

Maybe you should just keep your normal blinkers on and feel safe in your mainstream protective bubble.

First 2 videos were film of us mainstream media telling their normal bullshit as their government told them and getting caught out lying.
So there's source from the mainstream USA media about 90% controlled by six corporations that have their own agenda.

Anyway why don't you try and prove the mainstream are always telling the truth by doing your own research to make a real point.
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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2015, 05:16:42 pm »

I think it unusual that western mainstream media publish blatant lies..there will always be a slant depending on the ownership/management..but i think blatant lies would be quickly pulled up....if by nobody else, the opposing media organisations.

I would be interested to see examples of reporting from mainstream western media that you think are just blatant lies....could you give examples of the type of thing you re referring to?
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Like i said why don't you try and prove the mainstream are always telling the truth by doing your own research to make a real point.

You have a wonderful tool called a computer research something lol
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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2015, 06:02:56 pm »

dont think i need to...i believe most of it..

..but i would have thought that you obviously have examples of what you think the mainstream media has said that is not true..i was just interested to see an example of the type of thing you mean....

..you did say....a  few posts back...

"Cant you see us media lie all the time.... "

.....that sounds like at least you would have examples at hand..
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2015, 06:20:21 pm »

look i am sure you must be bored

i am not going to explain it up to you look at it or not i don't care if you do or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=218&v=0BJA1R8YIHk

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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2015, 06:36:44 pm »

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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2015, 06:51:42 pm »

...no worries....just thought that if you have confidence in your claims you would like the chance to prove it...and give me a chance to understand what you mean....i think you are probably not sure yourself....about what you think...if you were confident ...you would post proof....
...so...i will take a message from your .....inaction Wink
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