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« on: October 19, 2019, 12:36:57 pm »


from The Guardian…

General discontent: how the president's military men turned on Trump

Trump once based his cabinet around retired generals but his Syria
policy lurch has brought unprecedented military scorn on his head.


By ED PILKINGTON | 7:18PM GMT — Friday, 18 October 2019

James Mattis, centre, listens to Donald Trump in 2018 before his resignation as defence secretary. His mocking comments at a recent dinner made clear that he had heard enough. — Photograph: Jim Lo Scalzo/European Pressphoto Agency.
James Mattis, centre, listens to President Donald Trump in 2018 before his resignation as defence secretary. His mocking comments at a recent dinner
made clear that he had heard enough. — Photograph: Jim Lo Scalzo/European Pressphoto Agency.


FOUR-STAR US generals and admirals are a taciturn bunch: they measure their words, qualify their statements and guard their silence out of loyalty to the armed forces and to their country.

Not this week.

A torrent of raw military condemnation has been unleashed on Donald Trump, with some of the most respected figures among retired military leaders lining up to express their profound disapproval of their commander-in-chief.

The outpouring was exceptional, both for the sheer number who unloaded on the president and for the unrestrained language in which they put it. The most breathtaking words came from William McRaven, a former commander of US special operations command who oversaw the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

In an opinion article in The New York Times, McRaven accused Trump of spreading “frustration, humiliation, anger and fear” through the armed forces and of championing “despots and strongmen” while abandoning US allies. The four-star admiral called for Trump to either shape up or ship out of the White House.

“If this president doesn't demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.”

That Trump should be coming under such sharp criticism from figures as revered as McRaven is all the more extraordinary given that Trump put those he called “my generals” at the center of his cabinet when he took office almost three years ago. He appointed Jim Mattis as defense secretary, Michael Flynn and HR McMaster as successive national security advisers, and John Kelly as homeland security secretary and then White House chief of staff.

Now all those generals are gone, and some are speaking out.

Mattis, who has largely kept his silence since resigning last December, made clear his disdain for the president in the form of a stream of jokes at a black-tie roasting on Thursday night. In his first public comments about his former boss, Mattis mocked the amount of time Trump spends on his golf courses and poked fun at how he had avoided military service in Vietnam by claiming bone spurs in his feet.

“I earned my spurs on the battlefield; Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor,” Mattis said.

The new sense of license to criticize Trump among military leaders originated with the president's highly contentious decision last week to pull US troops from northern Syria. The sudden move has paved the way for a Turkish invasion that has put a prominent US ally in the fight against Isis, the Syrian Kurds, in mortal danger.

Several US generals and admirals expressed their disgust and bewilderment at Trump's decision. Admiral James Stavridis, former supreme allied commander of NATO, told MSNBC that it was a “geopolitical mistake of near epic proportion”. He said its long-term impact would be to cast doubt on the reliability of the US as an ally.

“It's hard to imagine how one could, in a single stroke, re-enable ISIS, elevate Iran, allow Vladimir Putin the puppet master to continue his upward trajectory and simultaneously put war criminal chemical-weapon user Bashar al-Assad in the driving seat in Syria.”

On the same channel, the former four-star general and battlefield commander in the Gulf, Barry McCaffrey, said the Syrian withdrawal was “inexplicable”.

“Mr Trump seems to have single-handedly and unilaterally precipitated a national security crisis in the Middle East,” he said, adding that the president had put the armed forces in a “very tricky situation”.

Trump's former national security adviser, HR McMaster, agreed that the decision would destabilize the region and intensify the Syrian civil war.


General Mark Milley grimaces as Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi confront each other at the White House. — Photograph: White House/Reuters.
General Mark Milley grimaces as President Donald Trump and Speaker Nancy Pelosi confront each other at the White House. — Photograph: White House/Reuters.

But the key question is what the highest echelons of the serving military think about Trump's increasingly erratic leadership. A clue can be found in the viral photograph of the confrontation between Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic speaker of the House, and Trump in the White House on Wednesday.

Pelosi is seen jabbing her finger at Trump who appears to be yelling across the table from her. Soon after the photo was taken Pelosi walked out of the meeting after Trump called her a “third-grade politician”.

Sitting next to Trump is General Mark Milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff — the highest-ranking officer in the US military. What he was thinking in the moment is not known, but he is looking down at his hands and his face is clenched.

Milley may not have the luxury to emote enjoyed by his retired four-star equivalents. But his expression spoke volumes.


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Ed Pilkington reported from New York.

Ed Pilkington is chief reporter for Guardian US. He is the author of Beyond the Mother Country: West Indians and the Notting Hill White Riots.

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2019, 05:27:50 am »

why don't you read about how many of these old warmongering fools were sacked by Obama
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2019, 08:17:44 am »


America as a stupid, inept, clown president. A dumb emperor with no clothes.

The walls are closing in on the moron. He is flailing around, way out of his depth.

Basically, the problem is that one needs to be an intelligent person to be the president of the USA.

Trump is a flawed, dumbarse, corrupt, criminal, shit-for-brains narcissist who is a complete intellectual lightweight compared to his predecessor and all presidents before that.

And people who are too dumb to see through Trump and who therefore support him are equally flawed, intellectual lightweights who deserve to be laughed at.

And I am laughing at YOU!!!

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 05:22:54 am »

American economy doing great more people now have jobs, pay less tax take home more money and are happy
he is keeping his promises, draining the swamp

making America great again

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 11:49:04 am »


The only things Trump is making great is China, North Korea, Russia and Iran.

And the really hilarious thing is that Trump is too dumb to comprehend it.

Look at the picture of Trump with various politicians and officials sitting around the table in the first post of this thread.

See the four-star general sitting just on the other side of Trump?

He is the senior military officer in the entire US armed forces.

Just looking at his body language says all one needs to know about Trump.

He doesn't even have to say anything, but his body language is saying, “This stupid cunt is my commander-in-chief? How absolutely & utterly embarrassing to be serving such a moron!”
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2019, 02:33:38 pm »

stop playing with yourself

it's you who is a pathetic moron

get a life you fucktarded arse troll
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2019, 03:23:49 pm »


Donald J. Trump's military service: a gutless, draft-dodging, yellow-bellied coward.

Trump isn't fit to even lick the boots of REAL soldiers.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2019, 05:10:39 am »

but hes good at giving orders right

like for his troops to kill the leader of ISIS yayyyyyyyyyy

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2019, 11:08:56 am »


I wouldn't believe anything Donald J. Trump says until I see the body put on display.

Donald J. Trump tells so many lies every day, that I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is simply yet another one of his lies.

I don't think Trump even knows how to tell the truth. He regularly lies about stuff when there is EVIDENCE to PROVE he is lying.

And it still doesn't change the fact that Trump is a gutless, yellow-bellied draft-dodger.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2019, 03:51:55 pm »

you are projecting your own shit onto trump and you're full of it

everything the lefty dullards say is projecting their own vile hate-filled vomit onto someone else

because most of them are stupid unimaginative morally bankrupt failures

whenever they say shit about other people they are really only talking about themselves

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2019, 05:30:28 pm »


Trump isn't even fit to touch the shit from REAL military heros such as James Comey, Robert S Mueller, Jim Mattis and the late John McCain.

They were heros who served their country's military with distinction.

Trump is just another gutless, cowardly draft-dodger.

The crowd who booed Trump and chanted “lock him up” at a baseball game in Washington D.C. know the truth about that gutless piece of shit.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2019, 07:11:54 pm »

 Grin Hahahaha you're a fucken stupid pea-brained troll clown


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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2019, 08:02:37 pm »


Donald J. Trump has a history of being a gutless, cowardly draft-dodger.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2019, 11:47:47 pm »

haha is that all you got

smart people don't like wars

Trump 2020

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2019, 08:19:52 am »


Imagine the humiliation of being one of those top generals and having to sit next to a commander-in-chief who has a history of being a gutless, cowardly draft-dodger?

It must be the absolute pits.
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