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« on: January 25, 2014, 01:00:31 pm »


John Armstrong

Winston for PM? Don't bet against it...

John Armstrong on Politics

The New Zealand Herald | 5:30AM - Saturday, January 25, 2014

The change in attitude is further evidence the PM will do whatever it takes to secure a third term for National. — Cartoon: Guy Body.
The change in attitude is further evidence the PM
will do whatever it takes to secure a third term
for National. — Cartoon: Guy Body.


JOHN KEY's about-turn on working with Winston Peters was utterly predictable. It was also archetypal Key. Being a full about-turn, the reversal of National's stance on dealing with Peters cements Key's reputation as an arch pragmatist — a modus operandi which may end up defining his prime ministership.

Perhaps unfairly so. In terms of tenure in Premier House, Key left Mike Moore, Sir Geoffrey Palmer and Jenny Shipley trailing in his wake long ago. He recently overtook David Lange and is closing in on Jim Bolger.

It all adds up to a heck of a lot of Cabinet papers and meetings.

Key, no doubt, will want to be remembered as a "change agent" — one who took the people with him. Witness this week's announcements on lifting school performance through salary hikes for the best teachers and principals.

It puts any reconciliation with Peters into perspective. However, there will be many who will question the settings on Key's moral compass instead. You cannot say you would rather lose power than work with someone and then turn around a couple of years later and offer not so much the olive branch as the welcome mat.

The change in attitude towards New Zealand First is further evidence that Key will do whatever has to be done to secure a third term for National on the Government benches in Parliament.

Even so, Tuesday's wiping clean of NZ First's slate was surprisingly deemed to be something of a surprise by some elements of the political milieu.

The most prominent example was Radio New Zealand's flagship Morning Report which headlined its coverage to that effect.

The "surprise" may have simply reflected genuine amazement at the Prime Minister's gall in trying to execute a 180-degree shift in stance with as little drama as possible. Or was the surprise a manufactured excuse seized upon by some as another opportunity to express indignation at what might seem to be more evidence of the Prime Minister's increasing willingness to flout principles he previously espoused?

This case is very different, however, to the credibility-sapping episodes of last year surrounding Kim Dotcom and the GCSB.

There are mitigating factors in Key's defence. The Labour Party may love Opposition — as an exercise in masochism at least.

National in contrast has a bodice-ripping lust for power which is as core to why the party exists as its conservatism. Every National Party leader knows his or her survival is contingent on maintaining the uninterrupted delivery of power.

Key is no different. Nobody should therefore have been surprised by the content of Tuesday's positioning statement declaring which political parties National can do business with after this year's election.

Surprise aplenty there would have been had Key and his cabal of senior ministers who mulled over the carefully worded declaration reiterated the party leader's pre-election announcements in 2008 and 2011 that National would not be a part of any governing arrangement with New Zealand First which left National at Peters' mercy and able to pull the plug on any such administration.

National's allies, however, do not look like returning to Parliament in sufficient numbers to enable National to continue to rule in the minority as it has done since 2008.

Without Peters agreeing to offer his party's backing on confidence motions — or giving a similarly binding commitment to abstain when such votes are held in Parliament — the whistle will be blown on National's six-year occupation of the Government benches.

It is unlikely Key will incur much political cost from the change, however. The public well understands that MMP entails what David Cunliffe cleverly described as the "dance of the desperate".

Every time the Labour leader voices that refrain, it begs the question of what he would do if he was facing Key's predicament. Saying he would not have got himself into such a pickle in the first place is not really an answer.




Key's volte-face on dealing with Peters was already under way long before his week's official declaration — another reason why the latter was hardly a surprise.

Key has conducted a softening-up exercise over the past year or so to get National voters attuned to the idea of life with Peters again.

Whenever he was asked before this week about National not having the numbers on election night to govern, Key consistently predicted Peters was unlikely to opt for National because he had a strong dislike of the Prime Minister.

Moreover, Key kept saying he was convinced Peters preferred to strike a deal with Labour.

What Key was really saying was that he was no longer ruling out negotiating with Peters, but the latter would not play ball.

Then as now, Peters' response was to try to bury Key with bucket-loads of invective, claiming Key was trying to engineer the result of this year's election. Such diatribes only broaden Key's smile — and for one reason.

Peters has been consistent from election to election in stressing NZ First — should the party hold the balance of power — will talk first to the party with the most seats in Parliament.

That party will almost certainly be National. It is an advantage that National will not squander. The big question is whether National will be willing to trade the one bauble of office which Peters has never enjoyed (and which Labour cannot realistically offer) to secure his signature on a confidence and supply agreement.

Peters has been a finance minister, a foreign minister and a deputy prime minister. That leaves one large and obvious gap in his CV.

Will National seek to find ways around the significant constitutional obstacles to enable the leader of a minor party to do a stint as prime minister — obstacles such as could he realistically sack a Cabinet minister from the majority party?

There would be some benefits for National beyond the retention of power.

It is assumed that Key will quit politics some time in National's third term, assuming it gets one. Knowing he might get up to a year or so in the top job would be a huge incentive for Peters to ensure — unlike its predecessor in the 1990s — a National-NZ First administration actually goes the distance.

Meanwhile, Judith Collins and Steven Joyce could slug it out for National's top job, knowing the winner would not be crippled by becoming prime minister ahead of an election National would almost certainly lose.

This is all highly speculative. But it would be naive to assume such scenarios are not being discussed within National Party circles, not least because the notion of National being instrumental in enabling Peters to occupy the top floor of the Beehive (however briefly) is something the wider party would find very hard to swallow.

Moreover, selling the idea to the wider public would make the difficulties of gaining rapprochement with Peters look very easy in comparison.


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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 07:42:42 am »



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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2017, 01:54:46 am »

Wow...didnt see this coming.....


"Winston Peters promised "explosive policy" at his party's convention on Sunday but it was a tried and true pledge of referenda on abolishing the Maori seats and reducing the number of MPs that he delivered.

In addition the NZ First leader set out reducing immigration to a "sensible and sustainable" level of 10,000 and bringing the country's banks back into Kiwi ownership - starting with making KiwiBank the government's official trading bank.

He also hinted at not building any more prisons and making prisoners do hard labour six days a week but when pressed on whether it was policy he said it was still a work in progress."


May have to review my vote if he is going to abolish apartheid in NZ
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 12:54:59 pm »

Winston Peters wants to abolish Maori seats, great idea.....no more apartheid in NZ😀😀😀
....and less troughers😉


Brash supports Winston’s Maori seats referendum policy

Don Brash is pleased with Winston’s policy:

Today’s call by New Zealand First leader Winston Peters for a binding referendum on whether to retain or abolish Māori seats is an excellent idea, Hobson’s Pledge spokesman Don Brash said today.

Mr Peters said he would hold two binding referendums on the same day. They would be on two issues:

Whether to retain or abolish Maori seats,
Whether to maintain or reduce the size of Parliament to 100 MPs. 
Dr Brash said it would be good for all New Zealanders to get rid of these seats.


“They have been an anachronism since 1893, when all adults 21 and over, men and women, Maori and non-Maori, gained a vote,” Dr Brash said.

“In 1986, the Royal Commission on the Electoral System recommended that separate Maori electorates should be scrapped if MMP were adopted,” Dr Brash said.

MMP was adopted but the Maori seats stayed.

“Having one roll for Maori and one roll for everyone else is an affront to modern democracy,” Dr Brash said.

“Bill English, John Key, and I, when in Opposition, all pledged that a future National government would hold a binding referendum on the Maori electorates,” Dr Brash said.

I predict that this policy is going to massively boost NZ First in the polls.

Winston should go the whole way and declare that anyone who opposes this supports apartheid.

 

-Hobson’s Pledge
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 01:32:22 am »

...looks like the days of an apartheid system in NZ are numbered...wonder if their are some Peters loyalists are not happy....😃...well I think at least 1🙄



Shane Jones denies being at odds with Winston Peters over Maori seats referendum 

New Whangarei candidate for NZ First, Shane Jones, says the Maori seats offered voters limited options.
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NZ First's Whangarei candidate, Shane Jones, says he's not at odds with his leader Winston Peters over whether there's a place in Parliament for the Maori seats.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 12:48:07 pm »

Brash supports Winston’s Maori seats referendum policy


Yep, RACISTS always flock together like rats in a sewer.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2017, 01:51:13 am »

Wow...you calling Winston  a racist now...what you don't like the taste of his arse now🙄
...thought there was a stage when you two seemed so close ahhhhhhhhhhahaha...what a fuckwit😂
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2017, 01:10:22 pm »


Donald Trump is a LOSER!!

Six months as President of the USA and with a Republican majority in both Congress and the Senate, yet he hasn't managed to get a single piece of legislation covering his election promises passed into law.

No repeal or replacement for Obamacare.

No money from congress for his wall; and Mexico has told Trump to “go fuck himself!”

“I will make America great again!” said the Orange Goblin. Instead he has turned the country into an international laughing stock.

Remember the old Self Help advertisement from the 1960s?

“Self Help are CHEAPER, CHEAPER, CHEAPER!” accompanied by a crowing rooster.

I reckon somebody should make a 21st century version of that ad: “Donald Trump is a LOSER, LOSER, LOSER!”
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2017, 01:49:51 pm »

The biggest election promise was Hillary not being president...MISSION ACCOMPLISED...😉
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2017, 02:23:12 pm »


Donald Trump is a LOSER!!

Six months as President of the USA and with a Republican majority in both Congress and the Senate, yet he hasn't managed to get a single piece of legislation covering his election promises passed into law.

No repeal or replacement for Obamacare.

No money from congress for his wall; and Mexico has told Trump to “go fuck himself!”

“I will make America great again!” said the Orange Goblin. Instead he has turned the country into an international laughing stock.

Remember the old Self Help advertisement from the 1960s?

“Self Help are CHEAPER, CHEAPER, CHEAPER!” accompanied by a crowing rooster.

I reckon somebody should make a 21st century version of that ad: “Donald Trump is a LOSER, LOSER, LOSER!”

Hehehe....3½ more years of farce & comedy in the greatest entertainment show on the planet.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2017, 11:54:21 pm »

Ktj.."Hehehe....3˝ more years of farce & comedy in the greatest entertainment show on the planet."

...look forward to it...although some are saying that an extra 4 years are likely....ahhh the joys of democracy😉
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