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This week's “shooting rampage” in the gUn-happy States of America

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« Reply #375 on: July 10, 2015, 12:53:37 pm »

Ali.."will you two...

I am surprised you would even click on the thread..must be a slow day in aliland Wink
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« Reply #376 on: July 10, 2015, 01:19:12 pm »

it surprises me that the human race has allowed you to live and pollute the world's gene pool

you 2 are like dumb and dumberer

which one are you?
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« Reply #377 on: July 10, 2015, 01:39:13 pm »

Ali.."will you two...

I am surprised you would even click on the thread..must be a slow day in aliland Wink

No - I'm one of the Mods and regularly pop in here to check what's going on. I don't always post but I keep an eye on what is being posted.

Thanks for your interest but I can assure you that there are very rarely slow days in Aliland.
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« Reply #378 on: July 24, 2015, 04:12:03 pm »


And again.....another American runs amok with a gun in a movie theatre, this time in Louisiana....



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« Reply #379 on: July 24, 2015, 06:36:14 pm »

Yes..Americans love guns, sometimes some Americans love to kill other Amaricans with guns, I guess in the same way as some kiwis sometimes  like the to kill kiwi babies,  thank Christ America is a democracy.......or we would be in deep shit😜
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« Reply #380 on: October 02, 2015, 11:33:28 am »


I see another nutter has been indulging in one of America's favourite pastimes....carrying out a mass-shooting at an educational institute.

Give it time and stupid gun-toting 'merkins will remove a large proportion of their stupid race from the gene pool.




from The News-Review (Roseburg, Oregon)....

The latest from mass shooting at Umpqua Community College

UCC SHOOTING RAMPAGE: At least 13 reported dead including shooter (VIDEO)



from The Washington Post....

Gunman in Oregon college shooting killed; multiple fatalities reported

The worst school shootings in American history




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« Reply #381 on: October 02, 2015, 01:23:28 pm »

...should be a law against it....they want to be able to have guns.....and they are a democracy....thats the way they like it Tongue

..they probably think we are just as mad for having govt owned railways as a job scheme for the unemployable Grin
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« Reply #382 on: October 02, 2015, 05:51:31 pm »


I see another nutter has been indulging in one of America's favourite pastimes....carrying out a mass-shooting at an educational institute.

Give it time and stupid gun-toting 'merkins will remove a large proportion of their stupid race from the gene pool.




from The News-Review (Roseburg, Oregon)....

The latest from mass shooting at Umpqua Community College

UCC SHOOTING RAMPAGE: At least 13 reported dead including shooter (VIDEO)



from The Washington Post....

Gunman in Oregon college shooting killed; multiple fatalities reported

The worst school shootings in American history






Kiwi heard shots, saw people falling



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A New Zealander caught up in the shooting at a college in Oregon says he heard gunshots before people around him started falling.

Aucklander Jaylen Gerrand, 20, who is on a basketball scholarship, was at the Umpqua Community College in Roseburg when a gunman began shooting.

Ten people were killed and seven others wounded - three critically.

Mr Gerrand told Radio New Zealand he was waiting outside a class, and described a "rush of things" before people started running. He said he ran until he got out of the campus.

"I was walking past one of my classes and then just heard gunshots, saw people falling pretty much, I didn't know who they were but .......there was all just a rush of things. and people just running."

He has been praised for getting a message out, warning others about what was happening. His basketball coach in Oregon, Daniel Leeworthy, said the 20-year-old was the first of the team to text him when the shootings began, to warn others to get off campus. He says his actions were heroic.

Police shot and killed the gunman.

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/kiwi-heard-shots-saw-people-falling/ar-AAf0GCd?ocid=spartanntp

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« Reply #383 on: October 03, 2015, 11:12:33 am »


from 9NEWS....

US has had more than one mass shooting a day this year
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« Reply #384 on: October 03, 2015, 11:15:13 am »

aint got time to read it but...good the see the Americans get what they vote for Shocked...democracy is a great thing Wink
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« Reply #385 on: October 03, 2015, 11:55:53 am »

aint got time to read it but....


Ah, yes....the old “haven't got time” bullshit excuse, yet you find plenty of time to post a shitload of delusional bullshit and sycophantic SPIN on behalf of your Nats masters.
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« Reply #386 on: October 03, 2015, 12:08:47 pm »

yeah but

...good the see the Americans get what they vote for  Shocked...democracy is a great thing  Tongue
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« Reply #387 on: October 03, 2015, 12:11:43 pm »


from The Washington Post archives....

The five extra words that can fix the Second Amendment

(published on Friday, April 11, 2014)
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« Reply #388 on: October 03, 2015, 12:20:56 pm »


from The Washington Post....

Jeb Bush criticized for saying ‘stuff happens’ while discussing school shootings

(6:20PM — Friday, October 02, 2015)
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« Reply #389 on: October 03, 2015, 12:27:26 pm »

yup...chuck it in the suggestion box...and if the majority want it...democracy will be able to deliver Grin...if not they will stay bwith the present status Shocked

...at present it would seem that most Americans are happy to stay with the status quo...which would seem mad... Shocked

...but then again..they probably think we are mad with taxpayers  paying for job schemes for the unemployables with kiwirail...even though it is losing hundreds of millions of hard earned taxpayers money..yes...it's a crazy world Roll Eyes
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« Reply #390 on: October 03, 2015, 01:03:43 pm »

yup...chuck it in the suggestion box...and if the majority want it...democracy will be able to deliver Grin...if not they will stay bwith the present status Shocked

...at present it would seem that most Americans are happy to stay with the status quo...which would seem mad... Shocked

...but then again..they probably think we are mad with taxpayers  paying for job schemes for the unemployables with kiwirail...even though it is losing hundreds of millions of hard earned taxpayers money..yes...it's a crazy world Roll Eyes


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« Reply #391 on: October 03, 2015, 01:22:01 pm »

..I'm happy for you to carry out personal attacks on me...I would expect nothing less Wink

..but it's reassuring  that you dont  disagree with what I say..thanks for the support Grin
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« Reply #393 on: October 05, 2015, 07:11:18 am »

unarmed victim zone
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« Reply #394 on: October 05, 2015, 09:09:25 am »

Posted elsewhere, but

There is something basic missing in the mix and I don't really know what it is.
If you take Switzerland, the highest per capita possession of fully automatic and semi auto weapons [and I think handguns] in the world and no mass school shootings.
[Someone did take out their Parliament some time back, but they were only politicians, so that doesn't count.]

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« Reply #395 on: October 05, 2015, 05:25:39 pm »


Mark Morford

Shooting up America: Guns are a national disgrace

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist | 3:33PM PDT - Friday, October 02, 2015

If everyone just walked around like this all the time, in cafes and schoolyards, in traffic and at work, America would be so safe and peaceful. Just like Jesus intended.
If everyone just walked around like this all the time, in cafes and schoolyards, in traffic and at work, America would be so safe and peaceful.
Just like Jesus intended.


GUNS are, in a word, perfect.

Guns are unparalleled, really; they are small masterpieces of precision engineering, one of humanity's most deliberate, perfectly designed tools. There is simply no denying a gun's intention, no possible misunderstanding of its reason for existing.

Unlike cars, knives, drugs, alcohol or any other freely available, potentially deadly items which can (and do) kill lots of people, guns are the only commercially available instrument in the world that we designed specifically for the purpose of the eradication of life. A gun's nature is, as they say in the tech world, baked in to the hardware. It understands nothing else.

Which is to say: Guns are death made physical, palpable in the hand. They are our basest, least sacred energies — hate, fear, paranoia — compressed into metal and explosives. No one holds or fires a gun without some fundamental understanding of this fact — that he could, if he so desired, kill anything he wanted, right now, in an instant — and that’s essentially all you're supposed do with it.

The fact that most gun owners do not do this, and manage to resist using their guns for what we specifically created them to do, is merely incidental, and actually a kind of failure: it denies the gun's primary objective. Gun owners actually know this, as a warped point of pride. “Hey, I own lots of guns and don't kill things.” How nice for you. Tell it to all the dead.

As the nature of a gun is the abject destruction of life, to use it merely for target practice or for “pleasure” is, essentially, to do it a disservice; you are thwarting its objective, insulting the lethal disposition we ourselves poured into the molten metal. Much like a sports car that “begs” to be driven fast, or an expensive designer dress that begs to be worn to an extravagant gala, a gun begs only to be fired at another living thing, to annihilate it. And eventually, it will be.


If past mass shootings are any indication, gun sales in America will enjoy a nice sales surge after the Oregon massacre. Because of course the answer to all the gun deaths is ALWAYS… more guns.
If past mass shootings are any indication, gun sales in America will enjoy a nice sales surge after the Oregon massacre.
Because of course the answer to all the gun deaths is ALWAYS… more guns.


Another mass shooting, another opportunity for the cowards of the Republican party to refuse to do anything, and the NRA to snicker and burn.
Another mass shooting, another opportunity for the cowards of the Republican party to refuse to do anything,
and the NRA to snicker and burn.


This is why we have the headlines all wrong: Guns are not being abused or wielded incorrectly in America. They are not “falling into the wrong hands”, ill-begotten by “evil people” and “crazies” and “psychopaths”. This is not true in the slightest.

Just the opposite, actually. When yet another mass killing occurs, when another woman is murdered by her ex-husband (which happens every single day in America, BTW), when another despondent teen kills herself with her dad's gun (ditto), when more males — and it is almost always males — shoot each other in the street, when more schoolchildren die at the hands of effortlessly well-armed adults, these are not tragedies. It's exactly what we expect to happen.

The guns are, in a very real way, just fulfilling the destiny we instilled into them. They are doing exactly what we designed them to do, what we demand they do, as physical extensions of our fear and rage. You can't shove 10 billion tons of carcinogens into the atmosphere and not expect massive outbreaks of cancer. You can't put 300 million precision tools of death into the culture and not expect their latent, intrinsic objective to be realized, every single day.

This is why all religious and spiritual traditions the world over agree: Guns are for cowards. They provide only the thinnest illusion of authority, the ugliest veneer of control, the most artificial aspect of authentic manhood.

Proof? Simple: Just remove any gun fetishist's (or terrorist's, or mass shooter's) stockpile of weapons, and watch what happens. They are instantly deflated, lost, rendered vulgar and human. All illusions of power and machismo vaporize, leaving only the base energies of hate and fear they often don't understand, much less know how to transmute into something like kindness and love.

Do you wish to pretend otherwise? To claim that guns are effective for safety, or self defense, or a warped sense of patriotism? This is not merely laughable, it's the opposite of the truth, of established fact.


Chris Harper-Mercer. Not necessarily a “psychopath”, or “pure evil” (most mass shooters aren't). Just another severely maladjusted, angry kid with far too-easy access to all the guns he could possibly want. Take away that rifle in that MySpace pic, and he's just another kid in dire need of therapy.
Chris Harper-Mercer. Not necessarily a “psychopath”, or “pure evil” (most mass shooters aren't). Just another severely
maladjusted, angry kid with far too-easy access to all the guns he could possibly want. Take away that rifle in that
MySpace pic, and he's just another kid in dire need of therapy.


Ah, America. So smug, so phallically ma-adjusted, so fetishistic for your perfectly made tools of cowardice and death.
Ah, America. So smug, so phallically ma-adjusted, so fetishistic for your perfectly made tools of cowardice and death.

Put it this way: If guns really conferred stability and protection, we'd be the safest, most peaceful nation on Earth. We are, instead, the most violent and deadly. We are viewed the world over as the most dazzling of bullies, and of hypocrites: We pretend to promote the values of democracy, peace and freedom the world over, and yet we kill one another — and anyone who disagrees with us — more horrifically, and more consistently, than any terrorist cult could ever imagine.

The bottom line is simple enough: America is, by every metric you can name, a far worse place for all our guns. They bring nothing of positive, uplifting value: no kindness, no strength, no peace, no divinity, no sense of community or human connection. Quite the opposite. Guns are the antithesis of love and compassion; they advance the human experiment not at all, and in fact, shatter and humiliate it with every pull of the trigger.


Email: Mark Morford

Mark Morford on Twitter and Facebook.

http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2015/10/02/shooting-up-america
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« Reply #396 on: October 05, 2015, 05:32:24 pm »

..Jeezzz he talks alot of crap alright...and to think....there are some people who actually believe that shit Roll Eyes
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« Reply #397 on: October 05, 2015, 05:38:18 pm »


So enlighten us on what is wrong with the notion that “guns are specifically designed to extinguish life and using them for that is doing exactly what they are intended for”.
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« Reply #398 on: October 05, 2015, 05:55:07 pm »

kj...."So enlighten us on what is wrong with the notion that “guns are specifically designed to extinguish life and using them for that is doing exactly what they are intended for”.

of course they are......but there there is a time and a place for their use..dickhead...would you like to turn up to a gunfight with a knife Shocked
..they are a very good tool when used for their intended purpose ..it's not the guns..a person pulls the trigger


.....you must always have weapons (or friends with weapons) superior to the weapons of your opponent...if you want to have a good chance of defeating any potential enemy when they invade...ask Ukraine... Roll Eyes...Putin's invasion is continuing  Shocked

Putin..the guy who vetoed the investigation into the shooting down of MH17...jeeezz...now why might he do that Wink
..and who is now bombing the opponents of Assad..the leader who is murdering endless thousands of his own people Tongue
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« Reply #399 on: October 06, 2015, 12:46:50 am »


Hahaha....the maggot is really talking a lot of shit tonight.

Anyway, time for a new page.

I might have to repost Mark Morford's excellent article so it appears at the top of page seventeen of this thread.
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