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« Reply #326 on: June 09, 2014, 05:16:34 pm »


Police: Armed man, woman behind Las Vegas ambush that killed 3

     (Chicago Tribune news story - 7:38PM CDT, Sunday, June 08, 2014)
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« Reply #327 on: July 10, 2014, 03:54:28 pm »


from the Houston Chronicle....

6 members of Spring family shot to death in likely domestic dispute

By CINDY HORSWELL and SAINT JOHN BARNED-SMITH | 9:33PM CDT - Wednesday, July 09, 2014

Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect in his car Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect in his car Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot,
with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


SIX PEOPLE, including four children and two adults, died Wednesday after being shot at their Spring home in an apparent domestic dispute, the second mass shooting of a Harris County family this year.

Another woman was wounded in the shooting at a home in the 700 block of Leaflet Lane and was in critical condition at a Houston hospital late Wednesday.

The suspected gunman fled the scene, but was intersected by police and cornered in a neighborhood cul de sac a few miles from the murder scene after a 25-minute car chase.

A standoff with the suspected gunman lasted late into the night. SWAT teams sandwiched his Honda sedan between two hulking armored vehicles at the end of a quiet neighborhood street and bathed it in flood lights.

The suspect eventually surrendered after several tense hours.

At one point during the standoff, the suspect had a gun pointed at his head, police said.

Harris County Precinct 4 Assistant Chief Deputy Mark Herman said authorities responded to a report of a shooting about 6 p.m. at the home on Leaflet Lane. There they found a woman and child who had both been shot in the head. Five victims died at the home and the sixth, one of the children, died later after being airlifted to Memorial Hermann Hospital.

The woman told officers that the shooting arose from a domestic dispute, involving "someone who had left the family." The woman told them the person was going to kill other family members.

The dead and wounded had not been identified as of late Wednesday.

Authorities were dispatched to the home of the relatives a short distance away near Ponderosa and Anvil.

"As soon as they got over there, he came driving up, and that's when the chase started," Herman said, crediting the information the woman was able to give police with saving their lives.

A 25-minute pursuit ended in a standoff at a nearby subdivision on Country Meadow Drive after police, using spike strips, disabled his car. Authorities evacuated residents near the cul de sac in the Country Lake Estates subdivisiion while SWAT negotiators attempted to difuse the situation.

Residents on the quiet suburban street where the shootings occurred were stunned by the violence in their neighborhood.

A woman who said she lives across the street from the house described the family as "close-knit."

"It was a Mormon family," she said. "They were very sweet and their kids were very shy. This is a sad, sad day."

The woman who asked not to be identified said five children and two adults lived in the house.

John Barros, a real estate agent, said he knew one of the residents of the home where the shootings occurred. Barros said the father was a real estate broker with whom he worked.

"It's a great family," Barros said. "They are very religious. They pray every day."

He said the children were between the ages of four and 14.

Wesley Carr, who lives nearby in the Enchanted Oaks subdivision of Spring, said the neighborhood is typically quiet.

"I've lived here 20 years. It's a very quiet neighborhood. It's not a through area," he said. "People just don't come here."

The shooting on Wednesday comes six months after another Harris County family was found shot to death in their Cypress home.

The deaths of Maoye Sun and Mei Xie and their children, Timothy Sun and Titus Sun, which made headlines across the globe and shook the Chinese-American community, has not yhet been solved.

Their bodies were found about 7:30 p.m. on January 30th at the family home in the 14000 block of Fosters Creek Drive.

The couple was last seen on January 24th. The boys last attended school at Sampson Elementary the day before.


Houston Chronicle photographer Brett Coomer and reporter Mihir Zaveri contributed to this report.

A member of the Harris County Sheriff's Department walks the scene of a standoff in Spring, Wednesday, July 9, 2014. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A member of the Harris County Sheriff's Department walks the scene of a standoff in Spring, Wednesday, July 9, 2014.
 — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


Neighbors embrace each other following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
Neighbors embrace each other following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot,
with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A law enforcement officer is taken to an ambulance, reportedly suffering from heat stroke, following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A law enforcement officer is taken to an ambulance, reportedly suffering from heat stroke, following a shooting Wednesday,
July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


Seven people have been shot, five fatally, Wednesday afternoon, July 9th, 2014 on the 700 block of Leaflet Lane in Spring. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston ChronicleA law enforcement officer is taken to an ambulance, reportedly suffering from heat stroke, following a shooting Wednesday, July 9, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead.
Seven people have been shot, five fatally, Wednesday afternoon, July 9th, 2014 on the 700 block of Leaflet Lane in Spring.
 — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect in his car Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect in his car Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot,
with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A law enforcement officer rides on the back of an armored vehicle to a standoff with a shooting suspect on Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A law enforcement officer rides on the back of an armored vehicle to a standoff with a shooting suspect on Wednesday,
July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A law enforcement officer gears up for a standoff with a shooting suspect following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A law enforcement officer gears up for a standoff with a shooting suspect following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014,
in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect in his car Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect in his car Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring.
Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A law enforcement officer gears up for a standoff with a shooting suspect following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A law enforcement officer gears up for a standoff with a shooting suspect following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014,
in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


People stand with a law enforcement officer near the scene of a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
People stand with a law enforcement officer near the scene of a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring.
Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A man and woman are let through the police line to speak with officers following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A man and woman are let through the police line to speak with officers following a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014,
in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


Law enforcement officers investigate the scene of a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot, with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
Law enforcement officers investigate the scene of a shooting Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. Seven people were shot,
with six confirmed dead. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A shooting suspect surrenders to law enforcement officers after 4-hour standoff on Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. The suspect is believed to have shot seven people, with a number of fatalities reported. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A shooting suspect surrenders to law enforcement officers after 4-hour standoff on Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. The
suspect is believed to have shot seven people, with a number of fatalities reported. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


A shooting suspect surrenders to law enforcement officers after 4-hour standoff on Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. The suspect is believed to have shot seven people, with a number of fatalities reported. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.
A shooting suspect surrenders to law enforcement officers after 4-hour standoff on Wednesday, July 9th, 2014, in Spring. The
suspect is believed to have shot seven people, with a number of fatalities reported. — Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle.


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« Reply #328 on: July 10, 2014, 03:56:02 pm »


Texas is an OPEN CARRY state too.

Kinda shows how “full-of-shit” the gun nutters are when they claim that “open carry” prevents that sort of stuff from happening, eh?

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« Reply #329 on: September 01, 2014, 09:31:33 pm »

Any senseless shootings to report lately Bruce??
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« Reply #330 on: September 01, 2014, 10:20:30 pm »

Bruce is quiet tonight Wink
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« Reply #331 on: September 03, 2014, 07:15:15 pm »

Open carry only stops some gun crime silly not everyone is armed only good people and some bad people.

Considering America has over 300 million people and most gun killings are committed by gangs or police all of which end up in the gun shootings and deaths statistics,and more deaths happen in unarmed zones one being Chicago,and  these types of places are where criminals just don't seem to follow the law and the public there are the unarmed victims.

So really its Bruce who is full of shit
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« Reply #332 on: September 19, 2014, 08:46:58 pm »


Florida grandfather's murder-suicide leaves 8 dead, including 6 kids

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« Reply #333 on: September 24, 2014, 05:16:17 pm »

Doctors prescribing drugs with the well known side effects of suicide and murder

Another Mass Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue

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« Reply #334 on: October 25, 2014, 11:44:46 am »


Yet another mass-shooting at a high school in the gUnhappy States of America, this time near Seattle, Washington.



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« Reply #335 on: December 16, 2014, 03:34:52 pm »


from the Philadelphia Daily News....

Ex-wife, her family members killed by military veteran
and suspect Bradley William Stone in Montco murder spree


By EMILY BABAY, LAURA McCRYSTAL, MARI A. SCHAEFER, JUSTINE McDANIEL, CRAIG R. McCOY and DAVID GAMBACORTA

6:16PM EST - Monday, December 15, 2014

The Montgomery County District Attorney's Office released a new photo of Bradley William Stone (left), the suspected gunman who left six people dead in three Montgomery County shootings this morning. A police officer (right) stands one-half block away from a row-house on the 100 block of Penn Avenue. — Photo: Flem Murray/Philadelphia Daily News.
The Montgomery County District Attorney's Office released a new photo of Bradley William Stone (left),
the suspected gunman who left six people dead in three Montgomery County shootings this morning.
A police officer (right) stands one-half block away from a row-house on the 100 block of Penn Avenue.
 — Photo: Flem Murray/Philadelphia Daily News.


PHOTOGRAPH GALLERY: Shootings in Montgomery County

AUTHORITIES are still searching for the gunman who left six people dead in three Montgomery County shootings this morning, but a SWAT team has stormed a Pennsburg home in search of the suspect.

The Montgomery County District Attorney's Office said police are looking for 35-year-old Bradley William Stone, of Pennsburg, in the killings. Another was seriously wounded, officials said.

All of the victims have a “familial relationship” to Stone, prosecutors said. They were identified at a 6 p.m. press conference as Stone's ex-wife, her sister and her sister's husband, the sister's teenage daughter, Stone's former mother-in-law and a grandmother. A teenage son of the ex-wife's sister was injured in the mayhem that occurred at two separate homes in two towns early this morning.

Montgomery County Court records show Stone had been entangled in divorce proceedings with his wife, Nicole A. Stone, since early 2009. The divorce was finalized in December 2012. Less than two weeks ago, he filed an emergency motion for custody.

The hunt for Stone has moved to Pennsburg after a siege in Souderton ended without a suspect in custody.

Prosecutors said police were searching locations in and around the town where Stone may be located. Loud noises were heard near a house on Main Street as police called to the suspect, “You're under arrest” and “Come out with your hands up”.

SWAT teams descended on Pennsburg after police responded to shootings in Lansdale, Lower Salford Township and Souderton beginning before 4:30 a.m. The search for the shooter ultimately led to a standoff on Souderton's West Penn Street, which ended shortly before noon after what sounded like a concussion grenade went off and an unidentified male, evidently seriously wounded, was removed from the home and taken by ambulance to a waiting medical helicopter.

Towamencin Township Police Chief Tim Dickinson said the person was not the suspected gunman and the SWAT teams had moved to another location in Pennsburg.

Meanwhile, officials have lifted a “shelter in place” order on all schools in the Souderton Area School District that was prompted by the shootings, and the Pennridge School District was lifting its “modified lockdown” as students prepared for dismissal.

Officers were called to the 100 block of West 5th Street in Lansdale for reports of gunfire around 4:25 a.m., according to dispatchers.

Officers were also called to a shooting reported at the Pheasant Run Apartments on the 100 block of Main Street in Lower Salford Township shortly before 5 a.m., dispatchers said.

Then, around 7:40 a.m., police responded to a reported shooting on Penn Avenue in Souderton.

Judy Alderfer, a restaurant manager who lives on Penn Street in Souderton, said the whole incident was frightening.

“These are people we know who are involved in this,” she said. “It's scary to think that someone I talk to every day could be involved in this.”

Audrey Gallina, another resident of the block, said that when she encountered a police officer on the street, he told her: “There’s a man with a gun; he’s very dangerous. Go inside.”

“This is a tragedy; this is a nice quiet town," she said, describing the couple who live in the besieged house as “very nice.”

Souderton schools were in “shelter in place” mode for about two hours.

In the Pennridge School District, schools were under “modified lockdown”, meaning only people known to staff are allowed to enter the buildings, and students aren't participating in outdoor activities, the school district said. The lockdown was being lifted for dismissal, but after-school activities will be canceled today.

Authorities said Stone should be considered armed and dangerous, and anyone with information about his whereabouts should call 911.

He was described as 5 feet 10 inches tall, 195 pounds and having a red or auburn beard and mustache, and closely cropped hair. He is known to use a cane or walker and may be wearing military fatigues.

According to Montgomery County court records, Stone is a veteran who has been serving a three-year probation term for a drunken-driving conviction last year. Court documents show police have arrested him three times for drunken driving since 2001. His first case was resolved when he was placed in a program under which charges were dropped after he completed a probationary period without incident.

After his second arrest, in 2003, Stone pleaded guilty and was ordered to spend at least a month in jail, according to the records.

His last arrest came a decade later. In May 2013, state police from the Skippack barracks arrested him on charges of driving with an intoxication level at least twice the legal limit. He pleaded guilty a year ago and was placed under house arrest with electronic monitoring, followed by the three years probation.

Court records show that his case was handled by the Montgomery County Veterans Court, set up to provide special help for ex-service members under arrest. The same files show that Stone was largely dutiful about paying monthly court fees and costs, making payments steadily throughout 2014.


Emily Babay is a staff writer for Philly.com.

Mari A. Schaefer, Laura McCrystal, Craig R. McCoy and Justine McDaniel are Inquirer staff writers.

David Gambacorta is a Daily News reporter.

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« Reply #336 on: December 16, 2014, 08:20:01 pm »

Yeah but who cares...wonder how many road deaths they have per year..and what are they doing about it Wink
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« Reply #337 on: December 16, 2014, 10:36:23 pm »

Oi Brucie...your post is peanuts...check out these mad bastards..126 DEAD


16 December 2014
Pakistan Taliban kill scores in Peshawar school massacre
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Local TV pictures showed injured children and adults after the gunmen opened fire during a school ceremony, as Azizullah Khan reports



At least 126 people, mostly children, have been killed in a Taliban assault on an army-run school in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, officials say.

Five or six militants are said to have entered the building. All are said to have been killed or blown themselves up.

The army says most of the school's 500 students have been evacuated. It is not clear how many are being held hostage.

The attack is being seen as one of the worst yet in Pakistan.
The BBC's Aamer Ahmed Khan in Islamabad says the killing of schoolchildren has caused unprecedented shock.

Thousands of Pakistanis have been killed in militant violence in recent years.

A spokesman for the militants says the school was targeted in response to army operations.

Hundreds of Taliban fighters are thought to have died in a recent military offensive in North Waziristan and the nearby Khyber area.

Soldiers help evacuate children
Pakistani troops have been helping evacuate children from the school
Injured student being evacuated
Local hospitals have been treating the injured
Woman weeps at hospital treating injured from school attack
Relatives of the injured have been waiting for news from the school
Many of the casualties were reportedly caused by a suicide blast. At least 80 of the dead are said to be children.

The attack started at 10:00 local time (05:00 GMT). Mudassir Awan, a worker at the school, said he saw six people scaling the walls of the school.

"We thought it must be the children playing some game," he told Reuters news agency. "But then we saw a lot of firearms with them.

"As soon as the firing started, we ran to our classrooms," he said. "They were entering every class and they were killing the children."

A school worker and a student interviewed by the local Geo TV station said the attackers had entered the Army Public School's auditorium, where a military team was conducting first-aid training for students.

Locals said they also heard the screams of students and teachers. The dead are said to include teachers, as well as a paramilitary soldier.

Gunfire and loud explosions were heard as security forces hunted down the militants.

Children fleeing the school
The army says most the children have been evacuated
Pakistani troops at the scene
Troops have sealed off the area around the school
Ambulances have been carrying the injured to nearby hospitals. A helicopter is also in the area. Major roads in Peshawar in the city have been sealed off.

A doctor at the local Lady Reading hospital said many of the students were in "very bad condition", with severe head wounds.

Frantic parents are gathering at hospitals to find out if their children are safe.

The school is at the edge of a military cantonment in Peshawar, which has seen some of the worst of the violence during a Taliban insurgency in recent years.

Many of the students were the children of military personnel. Most of them would have been aged 16 or under.

Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who has just arrived in Peshawar, described the attack as a "national tragedy".

The Pakistani opposition politician and former cricket captain Imran Khan condemned the attack as "utter barbarism".

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« Reply #338 on: December 17, 2014, 03:16:31 am »


Who cares?



This thread is about shooting rampages in the Fascist gUnhappy States of America.

You are free to start a thread titled “This weeks shooting rampage in the Towelhead country of Pakistan” and fill that thread to your heart's content about shootings in Pakistan.

You never know.....some people might even open that thread occasionally.
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« Reply #339 on: December 17, 2014, 01:22:24 pm »

the death toll has gone up to about 141...most of whom were kids...makes the US thing like a stubbed toe in comparison Roll Eyes
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from the Philadelphia Daily News....

Questions linger as ex-Marine sought in
Montco killing spree stabs self to death


By DAVID GAMBACORTA, JASON NARK, WENDY RUDERMAN, DANA DiFILIPPO and BARBARA LAKER

3:01AM EST - Wednesday, December 17, 2014

Police tape in the woods in Pennsburg after the body of Bradley W. Stone (pictured) was found on December 16th, 2014. — Photo: Tom Gralish/The Philadelphia Daily News.
Police tape in the woods in Pennsburg after the body of Bradley W. Stone (pictured) was found on December 16th, 2014.
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A GENERATION FROM NOW, people will still talk about the way Bradley William Stone went about butchering his ex-wife and her family, leaving a trail of blood and gore across Montgomery County as he moved from house to house, town to town, ambushing them in the middle of the night like a demon from hell.

But no matter how many times the story is revisited, no one will ever be able to answer the question that gnaws at the soul of anyone who discovers all of this heartache and horror: Why?

Any hope of making sense of the Monday morning massacre that claimed the lives of Nicole Stone and five of her relatives was snuffed out yesterday afternoon, when investigators found the killer's body in the woods in Pennsburg, about a half-mile from his house.

Brad Stone, 35, committed suicide, apparently hacking away at himself in his final moments with a knife, District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman said.

The discovery of his body brought an end to a manhunt that had left the area increasingly on edge as authorities struggled to pinpoint Stone's whereabouts.

Those who were friendly with Stone and his ex-wife, meanwhile, were left with the impossible task of trying to reconcile the guy they thought they knew — a father who adored his two daughters — with the cold-blooded killer whose fury made national headlines.

Military veterans who served with Stone in the Marines recoiled at media reports that seemed to link the bloodshed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that Stone was supposedly saddled with from a tour in Iraq.

“A lot of us come home with it, but you can't blame what happened there on PTSD,” said a veteran who once worked alongside Stone. “It really is the person you are underneath that will decide if you do something like this.”


‘See the tension’

At Back to School Night, Girl Scout functions, evening pickups at after-school recreation, Brad Stone appeared to be the ever-present father, “doting” on his little 8- and 5-year-old girls, often dressed in a suit and tie, said Gwen Hemmig, 57, whose granddaughters attend the same Souderton-area elementary school as Stone's children.

“He was just always there. Always helping with craft projects and always smiling. You could tell he was very proud of the girls,” said Hemmig, who saw him recently at a Girl Scout “songfest” held at the local high school.

“At the songfest, he's in a lot of the pictures with the girls,” Hemmig said. “He was always very sweet and pleasant ... He seemed to be a sweetheart.”

Stone and his ex-wife, Nicole, seemed to share a deep love for their kids, and a palpable dislike for each other, Hemmig said.

“A lot of times he and Nikki were both there — on opposite sides of the room,” she said. “You could see the tension between them when they would be in the same room together.”

Stone brought his new wife, Jen, to this year's Back to School Night, Hemmig said.

Aside from their ongoing custody dispute, Stone and his ex-wife had evidently moved on with their lives, with Nicole recently getting engaged and Stone remarrying in September 2013. His Facebook page features a wedding photo in which Stone clasps his wife's face in a kiss.

“The smile still hasn't gone from my face,” he posted beneath the photo on September 16th, 2013.

“I love you so much Mr. Stone,” replied Jen Stone. The two had an infant son.

Yesterday, Jen Stone's co-workers at Field Marketing Solutions, where she is a media analyst, declined to comment, other than to say that it's “a difficult time.”

Jen Stone did not return a phone call from the Daily News.


‘A substandard Marine’

Underneath the cheery face that Stone put on in front of others lurked a more troubled man.

He'd been on probation for the last year, having pleaded guilty for the second time to driving under the influence of intoxicants, according to court records.

Bucks County District Attorney David Heckler said Stone had received psychiatric treatment at the Lenape Valley Foundation in Doylestown Hospital. What he was treated for was unclear.

Doylestown briefly served as a focal point in the hunt for Stone after a resident claimed late Monday that a man in camouflage had tried to rob him of his car keys at knifepoint. That lead fizzled.

Ferman said Stone was denied emergency custody of his children last week but had not, to her knowledge, been diagnosed with PTSD.

Stone was discharged at the rank of sergeant from the Marine Corps Reserve in 2011, military officials said, and spent less than three months in Iraq in 2008. His military occupational specialty was listed as “artillery meteorological man”.

A Marine veteran who was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 14th Marine Regiment — the same unit as Stone — recalled Stone in less-than-flattering terms.

“He wasn't what you would call a good Marine,” said the vet, who recently came home from deployment in Afghanistan, and didn't want his name used because he didn't have permission from the military to talk about Stone.

“I thought of him as a substandard Marine,” he said. “He physically didn't meet our standards, and he was more interested in having the title of being a Marine than in doing the work it required.”

The veteran said Stone's tour in Iraq didn't last long because he convinced superiors that he had asthma and needed to go home.

“Everyone keeps reporting that he had PTSD, but that really puts a bad taste in the mouths of former Marines who were overseas and actually served their time,” he said.

He and Stone didn't serve in Iraq at the same time, he said, but worked together for about six months at the regiment's Philadelphia-based headquarters.

“There was always something off about him. He was always arguing with his wife on the phone,” he said.

Eric Zillmer, a professor of neuropsychology at Drexel University who authored a book on military psychology, said it was doubtful that Stone's killing spree could be blamed on PTSD.

“It is stressful to go to war, no question, but a lot of people who go to war don't develop PTSD,” he said. “Or, if they do, they don't go on a rampage and kill six people.”


‘Mommy, no!’

The first hint of the nightmare came at 4:25 a.m. Monday in the form of a 9-1-1 call from the Lansdale home of Nicole Stone's mother, Joanne Gilbert, and grandmother, Patricia Hill.

The caller hung up without saying anything. Police went to investigate and found Gilbert, 57, on a bed, and Hill, 75, on the floor, both with blood pooled around their heads, according to an affidavit released by authorities.

Gilbert's throat had been slashed, while Hill had been shot in the right eye.

A half-hour later, police in Lower Salford Township got a 9-1-1 call from the Pheasant Run Apartments, where Nicole Stone lived.

According to the affidavit, a neighbor, Ashley Deane, heard glass breaking and then a loud bang in Stone's apartment, followed by three or four gunshots.

Deane heard Stone's little girls cry out: “Mommy, mommy, no! I want my mom!”

Deane looked outside in time to see Brad Stone loading his kids into a green Ford as he uttered these chilling words about his ex-wife: “She's hurt, we have to go. She's hurt.” Stone later dropped his daughters off unharmed at a neighbor's house in Pennsburg.

Nicole Stone was found dead in her bedroom, with two gunshot wounds to her face. Her ex-husband's .40-caliber Heckler & Koch handgun was on her bed.

Investigators realized the three killings were related, and turned their attention to the Souderton home of Nicole Stone's sister, Patricia Flick, her husband, Aaron Flick, and their two teenage children, Nina and Anthony.

About 7:45 a.m., police entered the Flicks' house and found a horrific scene that had apparently been the starting point of Stone's rampage three hours earlier.

Nina, 14, was found dead of blunt-force trauma and lacerations to her face and skull in her bedroom. Patricia and Aaron were also dead in their bedroom; Patricia had been shot in the face.

Anthony, 17, remarkably survived a gruesome assault — a gaping skull fracture to the back of his head, numerous lacerations to his arms and several missing fingertips. He was listed yesterday in serious condition at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital.

Ferman said it appeared the teen's injuries came as a result of trying to fight off Stone.

All day Monday, heavily armed cops in tactical gear staked out spots where they mistakenly believed Stone had holed up — first, the Flicks' home in Souderton, and then Stone's own house in Pennsburg.

Officers still stood guard outside the Stones' two-story, brick twin on 4th Street yesterday. Police had knocked down the front door and bashed the garage door to bits Monday, when they thought Stone may be hiding out inside.

Yesterday, passers-by could gaze inside unimpeded. Off a front porch with matching rocking chairs, the living room appeared ready for holiday revelry. A half-decorated Christmas tree stood in the corner, beside a chewed-up rawhide bone in a dog bed and a packed bookcase.

By an alley beside a neatly landscaped backyard, the garage suggested the family's pack-rat tendencies: Bicycles, wagons, patio furniture and a green US Marine Corps box lay in a jumble inside. A child-sized plastic slide and basketball hoop stood on the patio.

Many tried to make sense of Brad Stone's crimes, and even sympathized with him, figuring deep-rooted mental problems were to blame for the massacre.

SWAT and K-9 cops began sweeping the area again in the afternoon yesterday, leading them to find Stone's body shortly before 2 p.m. in a wooded area not far from his home. Ferman said it appeared that Stone died of “self inflicted cutting wounds” to the center part of his body.

Hundreds gathered last night at a vigil for the victims inside Emmanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church in Souderton.

“Many will ask, where was God?” said the Reverand Heeralal “Mukesh” Cheedie.

Some in the crowd left the church, exhaling in the vestibule as if they'd been holding their breaths, and headed back out into the mist outside.


Staff writer Vinny Vella contributed to this report.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20141217_Questions_linger_as_ex-Marine_sought_in_Montco_killing_spree_stabs_self_to_death.html



from The Philadelphia Inquirer....

No evidence Stone stabbed himself to death, coroner says

By CHRIS PALMER | 5:45PM EST - Wednesday, December 17, 2014

BRAD STONE's lifeless body sat in the woods near his Pennsburg home for at least 12 hours before police found it on Tuesday, but how the mass killer died remains a mystery, the Montgomery County coroner said.

A preliminary autopsy showed Stone did not die of self-inflicted stab wounds, said Montgomery County Coroner Walter Hofman, and an official cause of death is still pending a toxicology report.

Still, detectives uncovered a gruesome tableau upon finding Stone's body. According to Assistant District Attorney Kevin Steele, the items found near the corpse included two medicine bottles, one containing a white powder; an energy drink with powder on the lip; and a large-handled machete and doubled-bladed black axe, both coated in blood.

The only injury that medical examiners discovered, according to Hofman said, was a “limited injury” to Stone's left leg — and one that didn't cause his death.

The coroner said the leg wound was not a gunshot wound, but he said he would not elaborate the type of injury.

On Tuesday, Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman had said Stone apparently died of self-inflicted cutting wounds to the center of his body.

Steele said the leg wound was about 7 centimeters deep. But if it had been ruled out as a cause of death, he said, the toxicology report or other items near the corpse might shed light.

“If the stab wound isn't the cause of death,” he said, “then you look to other possibilities based on the evidence around the scene.”

Stone, an Iraqi war veteran, was the subject of a 32-hour manhunt after a pre-dawn killing spree on Monday that left his ex-wife and five of her relatives dead in their homes in Lansdale, Souderton and Harleysville.

He was found dead on Tuesday afternoon about half a mile from his Pennsburg home, Ferman said.


Related news stories:

 • After Iraq, Stone came unraveled: ‘He saw war’

 • Funds set up for daughters, Flick

 • Custody dispute fanned by mom's drug abuse treatment

 • Stone met with VA week before killing spree

 • Questions linger about dead gunman

 • DUI case offered window into Stone's troubles

 • Timeline: Suspect sought in shooting spree

 • Photos: 6 dead in Montco shootings


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20141218_No_evidence_Stone_stabbed_himself_to_death__coroner_says.html
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« Reply #341 on: December 19, 2014, 03:06:46 pm »

..Yup..guns are not required for mad bastards to kill people..its not the guns fault


Children stabbed to death in Cairns
Last updated 16:22, December 19 2014


Eight children have been stabbed to death in Cairns, Australia, and another woman is in hospital with injuries.

The children are aged between 18 months and 15 years old, police have confirmed

A woman, believed to be in her 30s, is being treated for serious injuries and is assisting police.


A crime scene has been set up at a home in Murray St in Manoora. Detectives are searching through the home and its backyard, The Cairns Post reported.

Police were called to the property about 11.20am, (2.20pm NZT) following reports of a woman with serious injuries.

They have now set up a a mobile centre at the scene, with officers from the Cairns Criminal Investigation Branch, Child Protection and Investigation Unit, Scenes of Crime and Scientific section at the scene.

Manoora is a suburb of the far north Queensland city of Cairns, and is about four kilometres from the central business district.

Cairns Detective Inspector Bruno Asnicar  said the incident was "extremely distressing", but was unable to confirm the relationships between the victims.

"As it stands at the moment, there's no need for the public to be concerned about this other than that it's a tragic, tragic event. The situation is well controlled at the moment," he said.

"There shouldn't be any concerns for anyone else out of this environment and as we progress further we'll be sharing the results of our investigation.



"The crime scene is being locked down. That includes, from me. Nobody goes in there until our forensic people are finished and until we have done that we're not going to be able to clearly establish any relationships," he said.

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« Reply #342 on: December 19, 2014, 03:40:46 pm »


For the dim-witted........this thread is about mass-shootings in the USA.

Since when has Cairns been in the USA?

Anway, there is already a thread HERE about the terrorist (probably muslim) who killed all those kids in Cairns.

Although, frankly, because of his/its liking for torture, I wouldn't put it past that reality idiot to cause serious harm to kids. The sick fuck would probably see it as being no different to pulling the wings off flies. Somebody really should report that retard to the authorities before be goes ballistic and starts hurting kids.

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« Reply #343 on: December 19, 2014, 05:40:22 pm »

In Cairns they can do mass murder without even a gun in sight..just shows..its not the guns or "gun -happiness" that is the cause Roll Eyes


Brucie..."Anway, there is already a thread HERE about the terrorist (probably muslim) who killed all those kids in Cairns."

..I am assuming that you have evidence to indicate that the person responsible was a muslim terrorist...or your post could be considered racist Shocked
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« Reply #344 on: December 19, 2014, 05:58:53 pm »


I wonder where next week's “shooting rampage” in the gUn-happy States of America is going to occur?

Americans are basically too STUPID to be allowed access to guns.

Every single year (year after year after year) ten times as many Americans die of gunshot wounds as the total number who died in the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Centre towers and the Pentagon.

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« Reply #345 on: December 19, 2014, 06:12:58 pm »

...mmm....not sure yet...but be assured I will keep you to date with proceedings on any murders caused by the mentally deranged Wink

.... the people need to know Roll Eyes
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« Reply #346 on: December 21, 2014, 10:58:02 am »


from The New York Times....

Two Police Officers Are Fatally Shot in Brooklyn; Suspect Is Also Dead

By BENJAMIN MUELLER and AL BAKER | Saturday, December 20, 2014

An investigator at the scene where two police officers were fatally shot in Brooklyn on Saturday. — Photo: John Minchillo/Associated Press.
An investigator at the scene where two police officers were fatally shot in Brooklyn on Saturday.
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IN an apparent targeted killing, two police officers were shot in their patrol car in Brooklyn on Saturday afternoon by a man who later fatally shot himself in head, police officials said.

The shootings come at a moment when the city is roiled by demonstrations after a grand jury decided not to indict an officer in the chokehold death of a Staten Island man.

The shootings on Saturday took place near Myrtle and Tompkins Avenues in Bedford-Stuyvesant.

“It looks like they were shot in the upper body,” Deputy Chief Kim Royster said.

She said that a man fled into a subway station after shooting the officers from the patrol car’s passenger side, and that the police had recovered a gun from the scene.

Chief Royster said the man opened fire on the police officers, ran up Myrtle and went into a subway station. The man died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, Chief Royster said.


The shootings took place near Myrtle and Tompkins Avenues in Bedford-Stuyvesant. — Photo: Kevin Hagen/The New York Times.
The shootings took place near Myrtle and Tompkins Avenues in Bedford-Stuyvesant.
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Fire Department officials said that a 911 call came in around 2:50 p.m. reporting that two people had been shot.

Charlie Hu, the manager of a liquor store at the same corner, said he saw two police officers slouched over in the front seat of their patrol car. At least one of the officers, Mr. Hu said, appeared to have been shot in the head.

A high ranking police official called the shooting an assassination.

“He walked up to the car, fired several shots,” the official said. “They were sitting in the car. He approached from behind, opened fire and clearly his intent was to assassinate them.”

At the scene of the shooting, Andy Jordan, 39, who lives nearby said tensions were high in the neighborhood, and “we need to look at how we got here.”

The last officer killed by gunfire in the line of duty was Peter Figoski in 2011.


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Man dead after 21st party in South Auckland
JOSH FAGAN AND OLIVIA WANNAN
Last updated 12:36, December 21 2014



A 21st birthday party ended in tragedy, with one relative dead and another hospitalised following the Auckland event.

Police found 24-year-old Chevy Midas Davis dead on the driveway in front of a Fisher Cres, Otara property at 1am this morning. Davis' cousin, a 28-year-old man, was discovered badly injured inside and was taken to Middlemore Hospital, detective senior sergeant Ross Ellwood said.

"No arrests have been made in connection with [Davis'] death which was a tragic way to end the celebrations of another young person coming of age."

The condition of the man in Middlemore Hospital has improved this morning, with his injuries no longer life-threatening.

Neighbours said they heard screams last night - and then silence.

"It was about 1am it was a normal party end then there I heard screaming and yelling, then it went quiet."

Police have cordoned off Fisher Crescent but residents have been gradually let out of the street.

Homicide detectives are speaking with residents in the street while forensics officers dressed in white suits have entered the property.

Police at the scene said they would provide an update on the investigation later today.

One neighbour who lives across the road from the house said he hadn't notice anything too rowdy about the party. There were about three or four separate parties going on in the street last night, he said.



"I just moved in two weeks ago," the man said. "It's a bit of a fright. It hasn't sunk in yet."

A woman who lived around the corner had heard there was a big fight overnight. "It is scary really. It's a  shock."

The same street was the scene of a murder on Boxing Day 2006.

Keleti Seau was found guilty of stabbing his wife Atonauga Seau to death in her bed.

Seau was found by police in Thames two days after killing his wife. He was sentenced to life in prison.

Ellwood said the police investigation was seeking attendees at the party, held to celebrate the birthday of a young woman related to Davis, to put together the events leading up to his death.

He said anyone with information about the incident should contact Counties-Manukau police on 021 191 0881 or call the anonymous Crimestoppers line on 0800 555 111.

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« Reply #348 on: December 21, 2014, 05:37:31 pm »


WOW....I just learnt something.

South Auckland is in the gUnhappy States of America.

Fancy that....it must be so because the idiot reality posted it in a thread about shooting rampages in America.

Well, either that or the idiot reality is stupid and therefore geographically-challenged.
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« Reply #349 on: December 21, 2014, 05:57:42 pm »

a simple mistake dude, why are you so full of hate and venom??? Tis the season to be jolly la la la la laa de la la la
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