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Only wikipedia  but   Huh  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz

Ministers slam door on web tycoon
By David Fisher
5:30 AM Sunday Sep 11,

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The Auckland mansion. Photo / Jason Dorday


An internet millionaire who wants to become a Kiwi has been told he can't buy a luxury mansion in New Zealand because he had convictions overseas.

Kim Dotcom was given residency despite declaring two convictions, which he said had been wiped by "clean slate" legislation in Germany, his home country. But declaring those convictions has cost him the $30 million home in rural North Auckland that he wanted for his family.

Officials originally approved the application to buy, saying enough time had passed.

But Associate Finance Minister Simon Power and Land Information Minister Maurice Williamson decided he did not meet the "good character" test to buy land here.

Power's spokesman said the ministers considered a range of issues.

Dotcom said he thought Power was "small-minded and unreasonable" and the decision was a contradiction after Immigration New Zealand approved his residency.

He was accepted under the "high-investment category" after putting $10 million into government bonds and making a large donation to the Christchurch earthquake fund.

Disclosing details of his convictions for the first time, Dotcom said he was convicted for "hacking" under juvenile law and for insider trading because of ignorance about a share-trading law.

He said both convictions were more than 10 years ago and had been wiped by Germany's clean-slate law.

"Officially I am as clean as it gets. I am not a bad person with a bad character and, in my opinion, Simon Power is small minded and unreasonable.

"In New Zealand, murderers have been released from prison within a decade. You would think that the New Zealand Government believes in giving people a second chance."

Dotcom said his crimes were "victimless" and "committed from my home computer".

He said the hacking case led to him working for companies and governments and becoming a "white-hat hacker" - the good guys of the online world.

Dotcom said the decision did not affect his family's love for New Zealand "and our hope to provide our kids with a safe future in a beautiful environment". "My wife and I have decided for our family to move away from Hong Kong and become ordinarily resident in New Zealand. Therefore in a little more than a year's time we will not require ... consent to buy the homes we desire."

He said the family planned to return to New Zealand shortly as his wife, Mona, was again pregnant and the couple's other children missed the outdoors and their pet animals.

"We love New Zealand, no matter the haters."

Dotcom said the message he took from the rejection was that the Government wanted his money and job-creation capacity "but you can't buy the home you desire for your family".

"To my family, our friends and business partners this doesn't make sense. It's a flawed process that is hurting New Zealand."

Dotcom said the decision had led him to reconsider plans to expand his level of investment in New Zealand beyond the $10 million already in government bonds.

He said he had planned investment which would have led to jobs for an additional 30 people beyond the 20 he already employed.

He said he was also scaling back plans for a big New Year's Eve fireworks display. "Mr Power will have achieved nothing but hurting hard-working New Zealanders and embarrassing his country."

A spokesman for Immigration NZ said Minister Jonathan Coleman was not involved in making the decision to grant Dotcom residency.

By David Fisher |

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 06:42:26 am »

Porn wrangle with Dotcom
ADAM DUDDING AND STEVE KILGALLON
Last updated 05:00 29/01/2012

A wealthy Californian pornographer who sued Kim Dotcom for infringing copyright on thousands of nude images says he is delighted the FBI and New Zealand police have smashed Dotcom's Megaupload file-sharing business.

But Norm Zada, owner of soft-core porn website Perfect 10, said he would be happier still if the US government was instead attacking the search-engine giant Google, which he considers the worst copyright offender online as it provides the links that direct illegal downloaders to sites like megaupload.com.

Late last year Zada filed a $5 million lawsuit against Megaupload in the United States, before reaching a confidential out-of-court settlement.

In the past he has laid suits against Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Visa and MasterCard over the theft of his copyright material, in several instances receiving settlements.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 06:57:38 am »

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Power's spokesman said the ministers considered a range of issues.

Starting and finishing with "American officials have instructed us..............."
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 07:41:30 am »

he may not have bought the $30 mill property but he got the $4 million one next door ....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6324781/Kim-Dotcom-bought-4m-property-in-December
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 11:44:56 am »

And after all the attention this case recieved, here I was thinking we didn't have real crimes in this country anymore but how wrong was I.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/12751552/police-continue-hunt-for-murder-weapon/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6329837/P-linked-to-family-violence-incident
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6329380/Queenstown-bouncer-charged-with-assault
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6327797/Armed-men-threaten-baker-and-employee

The guess the cops these days just take the easy cases.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 12:29:08 pm »

Seems that poor old Kim has inadvertently done a favour to lovers of American "music" while he languishes  ummmm -wherever? - waiting for his extradition to face ever-increasing numbers of charges (see http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/18/2807553/megaupload-kim-dotcom-additional-charges-wire-fraud ).



selected quotes from http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/6445138/Rdio-switches-on-Kiwis-to-music-for-a-monthly-fee

Rdio switches on Kiwis to music for a monthly fee
TOM PULLAR-STRECKER
Last updated 07:13 20/02/2012

New Zealanders may be at the back of the queue in getting the latest movies and television programmes over broadband, but music is becoming more accessible online after the local introduction of United States music service Rdio and the impending arrival of its better-known rival, Spotify.

Both provide "all-you-can-eat" access to a massive amount of music for a monthly subscription. ... Speaking from the company's head office in San Francisco, Rdio chief operating officer Carter Adamson said the music industry had a huge problem with piracy and people who weren't spending much on music.

Consumers had divided into three distinct groups, he said. There was "a tiny segment", who spent an inordinate amount on music every year; a big segment, who might spend $25 to $30 a year "getting an iTunes gift card in the holidays"; and a massive segment, who spent "nothing at all".  ...Subscription services such as Rdio could bridge the divide and entice the mass market to turn away from piracy...


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Dotcom wants to raise kids in NZ

NZ Newswire
March 1, 2012, 9:03 am

Despite unwelcome attention and the likelihood of a lengthy court battle ahead, Kim Dotcom says he wants to stay in New Zealand and raise his children here.

The 38-year-old founder of file-sharing website Megaupload is awaiting extradition to the United States, where he is facing charges of racketeering, copyright infringement and money laundering in relation to the site.

Dotcom and three co-accused were arrested on January 20 in a spectacular police raid on Dotcom's $30 million rented mansion in Coatesville, north of Auckland.

He spent a month in custody before being granted bail last week.

Dotcom has denied the charges and says the US cannot win the case, though he has admitted it will take years of court action to prove his innocence.

He told the New Zealand Herald the evidence that will clear him is held by US authorities and he has questioned why prosecutors have presented a one-sided picture of the case.

"How do you cherry-pick in a way which is so misleading and so malicious?" he said.

Despite the notoriety of his case, Dotcom, who is a permanent resident, says he still wants to make New Zealand his home.

The German national says he's often encountered odd reactions from people while he's been living here.

It's been difficult fitting in after coming across people whose opinions seemed to be shaped by what they read about him online, he says.

However, Dotcom and his family - his wife, Mona, who is expecting twins, and their three children - don't want to go.

"This is the country where I want to live and where I want my children to grow up. I love it here," he says.

In the High Court in Auckland on Wednesday, a Crown appeal to overturn the decision to grant Dotcom bail was unsuccessful.
The extradition hearing is set to get under way on August 20.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/13055441/dotcom-wants-to-raise-kids-in-nz/

...Ms Toohey said she had received a preliminary application from the US indicating that Dotcom's wife could have been involved in Megaupload.

DOTCOM'S HOUSEHOLD BILLS


Monthly:
$24,000 security
$29,000 for staff wages
$28,678 for general costs including $1000 mobile phone, $5000 landline phone and $8,500 for electricity.
$7000 storage costs, including of  luxury cars

Annual:
$1 million rent
$600,000 maintenance of their home

One-off:
$250,000 rent debt
$40,000 legal bills - and counting.

- © Fairfax NZ News

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/6503368/Dotcoms-high-life-Court-grants-30k-for-three-weeks

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 05:56:05 pm »

He hasn't been proven to have done anything yet, so he should be paid enough out of the money to continue to employ those staff he has, and live normally.  Not only have they not proven enough to hold him in court, the legislation they were using got shut down and tossed out. 

I bet the FBI have an absolute army of people raking through the stored data they ceased, looking for all sorts of crimes and propaganda. 

Someone should point out to them that guns in schools is becoming the norm rather than the exception and they best be sorting that shit out.
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 08:51:06 am »

He hasn't been proven to have done anything yet, so he should be paid enough out of the money to continue to employ those staff he has, and live normally.  Not only have they not proven enough to hold him in court, the legislation they were using got shut down and tossed out. 

I bet the FBI have an absolute army of people raking through the stored data they ceased, looking for all sorts of crimes and propaganda. 

Someone should point out to them that guns in schools is becoming the norm rather than the exception and they best be sorting that shit out.

I see that this guy was extradited from Australia, charged and pleaded guilty,

Software Pirate Faces Criminal Charges
Australian man is alleged to be a senior member of Internet piracy group.
By Paul Roberts, IDG News    Mar 14, 2003 10:00 am

...The government cracked down on the group in December 2001, executing more than 65 searches in the U.S. and five foreign countries, including Australia. Twenty individuals have been convicted of felony criminal copyright offenses and ten sentenced to federal prison terms ranging from 33 to 46 months as a result of those raids, according to the DOJ.

In the three years prior to being broken up, DrinkOrDie is estimated to have pirated and distributed more than $50 million worth of movies, software, and music, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. ...

see the rest @   http://www.pcworld.com/article/109806/software_pirate_faces_criminal_charges.html

US jails Aussie piracy kingpin
 
June 24, 2007
  
Infamous Australian internet pirate Hew Raymond Griffiths was sentenced to more than four years in a US jail today.
 
Griffiths, who once boasted he would never be caught, was extradited from Australia to the US in February.
 
But the judge took into account almost three years Griffiths had spent in Australian jails while fighting extradition, meaning he will have to serve only 15 months.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/security/us-jails-aussie-internet-pirate/2007/06/23/1182623714013.html
 



Seems to me now that this makes the defeat of SOPA and PIPA meaningless, and the Dotcom family is going to have a number of years on restricted income.


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just a reminder:

US senators back down on online piracy

Last updated 19:40 20/01/2012

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/6291861/US-
 senators-back-down-on-online-piracy
 
Tech
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SOPA Got Stopped: Stop Online Piracy Bill Actually Dead
1/20/2012 @ 12:32PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/01/20/sopa-got-s
 topped-stop-online-piracy-bill-actually-dead/
 
1/31/2012 @ 10:40AM
SOPA and PIPA Defeat: People Power or Corporate Clout?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2012/01/31/sopa-and-p
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 10:09:15 am »

Anyone who pleads guilty under legislation that hasn't been made law is a freaken idiot.  Does his 'crime' match what Dotcom has been charged with? 
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Papers reveal Dotcom's ultimatum to NZ officials
5:30 AM Wednesday Mar 14, 2012   

 Kim Dotcom was described as a billionaire and threatened to withdraw his application to live in New Zealand unless immigration officials met his deadline, according to documents released yesterday.

Officials granted the Megaupload founder residency in 2010 after deciding the money he could bring to the country outweighed concern about criminal convictions in his native Germany for computer fraud and stock-price manipulation.

The Associated Press news agency, which obtained the documents, reported yesterday that Dotcom's fortune was also apparently over-stated during the application process.

Dotcom's immigration agent, David Cooper, described him in application papers as a billionaire, a term immigration officials repeated in their own assessments.

Cooper told AP that the description came from Dotcom himself.

But subsequent asset seizures indicate Dotcom's wealth to be far less than $1 billion.

Before he was granted residency, officials noted that Dotcom had made charitable contributions in New Zealand and was planning to sponsor a fireworks show for Auckland at a cost of $600,000.

"The applicant has already made a substantial economic contribution to New Zealand through his spending here and will make further investments," immigration official Chris Biggs wrote.

But on October 26, 2010, an immigration manager, Gareth Grigg, sent a memo to a colleague saying Mr Cooper advised that "Mr Dotcom wants a decision on his application by 1 November 2010, or he will walk away".

He said he would consider residency options in Australia or Canada.

Mr Grigg noted that: "Mr Dotcom may be seen to be controlling the processing of his application", and that proceeding with the application without all the outstanding information "may amount to Mr Dotcom being afforded special treatment because of his wealth."

Six days later - on Dotcom's deadline day - immigration officials granted him residency.

Dotcom is fighting extradition to the US over charges of copyright infringement and racketeering through Megaupload.com, the file-sharing website he founded.

An Immigration NZ spokesman said yesterday all elements of his application were appropriately considered.

Dotcom was convicted in 1998 of computer fraud and dealing in stolen phone cards.

In 2002, he was convicted of manipulating the stock price of an internet startup. Both times, he was fined but avoided jail time.

- AP
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 04:34:52 pm »


Police court order Dotwrong
By David Fisher 5:30 AM Sunday Mar 18, 2012   

Internet tycoon Kim Dotcom's cash, cars and property were seized using a court order which should never have been granted.

A judgment from Justice Judith Potter on Friday declared the restraining order "null and void" and having "no legal effect".

The blunder might now lead to the beleaguered internet mogul getting back everything that was stripped away in the surprise dawn raid on his mansion eight weeks ago.

Police commissioner Peter Marshall and the Government's legal advisers at the Crown Law Office have admitted making an embarrassing "procedural error" when filing documents to seize Dotcom's property.

Potter said Marshall's application for the restraining order had "confused" legal moves by opting for one in which Dotcom was not given a chance to mount a defence. It meant Marshall applied for the "incorrect order".

Potter said he had sought to correct the mistake after the raid by applying for the proper order, retrospectively listing assets already seized.

The new order had been granted on a temporary basis, but Potter said she would soon rule on whether the mistake meant the internet mogul should get his property back.

A briefing on the mistakes has been made to Attorney-General Chris Finlayson - who is also the minister in charge of the Crown Law Office.

It was his legal authority that was used by Crown Law to authorise the seizure of the goods, which was undertaken by police and the Official Assignee.

The raid led to Dotcom's Megaupload sites - which carried 4 per cent of internet traffic - being pulled down and $200m in assets seized. A fascinated public watched as officials took a string of luxury cars from the $30 million mansion in North Auckland where Dotcom, wife Mona and their three children lived.

The seizure left Dotcom with no finances to mount a legal challenge against claims he had overseen the biggest criminal copyright operation in history.

On January 30, Crown lawyer Anne Toohey wrote to the court to explain the wrong sort of restraining order had been applied for, saying a "procedural error" had occurred.

Toohey enclosed new legal papers to seek a replacement restraining order and outlined five errors with the initial application.

Court papers showed Marshall accepted the initial order "may well be a nullity".

However, the Crown submitted that new orders granted meant the previous errors didn't matter as the property was still restrained.

Dotcom's legal team, including Simpson Grierson senior partner Willie Akel, challenged the error, stating the seizure of the property was "unlawful".

Court papers show Akel stating Dotcom's belongings and fortune "must be released" because it was "unlawfully seized and restrained under the order".

A spokesman for the Attorney-General said Finlayson was briefed on the issue, apparently in early February.

Dotcom's legal team were unwilling to comment on the decision.

The move would be seen as a new victory for Dotcom. Earlier, Paul Davison QC had successfully over-turned the insistence Dotcom should be held in jail, rather than bailed, before an extradition hearing expected within six months.

But Dotcom is not guaranteed to get his property back.

Canterbury University professor Ursula Cheer said the law made allowances for mistakes and the case would only be fundamentally affected if Dotcom's lawyers were able to produce evidence showing a lack of good faith.

This was "so high profile, anything like this looks extremely bad," she said.

By David Fisher

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10792862




 


 
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2012, 02:06:06 pm »


Dotcom has new twin girls

NZ Newswire
March 25, 2012, 8:12 am

Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom facing charges for copyright infringement is a new dad to twin baby girls.

Dotcom is currently on bail in New Zealand awaiting extradition to the US, where he is facing charges of copyright infringement, money laundering and racketeering in relation to the popular file sharing website.

The twins, weighing 2.4kg and 2.8kg, were born by caesarean section on Thursday at National Women's Hospital in Auckland.

"Two healthy Kiwis were born yesterday. All good. When they asked me if I'd like to keep the placenta (weird question) I said 'yes' and 'please send it to the FBI for forensic analysis so they can verify there is no pirate DNA'," Dotcom texted to the Herald on Sunday.

Dotcom and his wife, Mona, already have three young children called Kimmo, Kaylo and Kobi.
The bank accounts and assets of the 38-year-old German, who has New Zealand residency, were seized following a spectacular police raid on his $30 million rented mansion in Coatesville, north of Auckland, in January.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/13255059/dotcom-has-new-twin-girls/


meanwhile

Dotcom gets extra $60k, Mercedes
 By Edward Gay
12:55 PM Thursday Mar 22, 2012

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10793788

and

Megaupload Host Wants To Delete Data
Movie industry association wants data retained indefinitely, but hosting company says it's too expensive. Meanwhile, questions rise over why Anonymous launched retaliatory attack--and who paid for it. ...

http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/attacks/232700141

and

Hollywood studios plan to sue internet users
By David Fisher

5:30 AM Sunday Mar 25, 2012

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/connect/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501833&objectid=10794468

and

New Zealand High Court: Megaupload asset seizure order "null and void"

By Peter Bright | Published 6 days ago

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/new-zealand-high-court-megaupload-asset-seizure-order-null-and-void.ars


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Crown lawyers knew Dotcom order unlawful
 By David Fisher
5:30 AM Friday May 4, 2012

Crown lawyers acting for the United States knew before seizing Kim Dotcom's fortune and property that they were using an unlawful court order.
 
The High Court file has revealed Crown prosecutor Anne Toohey realised there was a paperwork problem on the morning of the January raid.
 
The Solicitor-General at the time, David Collins, was alerted to the error but told the mistake didn't alter the lawful nature of the order allowing the seizure of Dotcom's wealth.
 
The advice was wrong - Justice Judith Potter later ruled the restraining order "null and void" and having "no legal effect".
 
The result left Dotcom without the chance to have his day in court or the money to fund a fight against claims he was behind as international criminal conspiracy in copyright infringement.
 
The financial seizure was part of a multi-pronged attack after orders issued in US courts led to the arrest of Dotcom and three business colleagues.
 
The Crown Law office went to court with the orders to have them enforced here and told judges they were "without notice" - meaning Dotcom's team did not need to be warned.

But newly obtained documents from the court file show Ms Toohey realised on the day of the raid that they were meant to give notice.
 
Crown Law criminal team leader Madeleine Laracy, in an affidavit to the court, said: "This issue had been overlooked prior to that point."
 
She said she talked about the realisation with Dr Collins and his deputy, Cameron Mander, and the decision was made to forge ahead with the seizure.
 
Ms Laracy said it was decided Crown Law would tell Dotcom's lawyers the restraining notice was only temporary until there was a court hearing.
 
She said US authorities then sent a second request to the Crown Law Office to have more of Dotcom's belongings seized.
 
Ms Toohey was on the verge of having a fresh hearing over the new restraining order, at which time the error over the original order would have been raised.
 
Ms Laracy said Mr Mander realised the error was more serious and ordered the court be alerted.
 
Ten days after the raid, the court was told and a court process was allowed to give Dotcom the chance to object.
 
Justice Potter upheld the restraining order although she said Dotcom could sue over Crown Law's mistake. Dotcom has been given $20,000 a month to live on.
 By David Fisher

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10803433

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2012, 05:34:56 pm »


 Huh

Dotcom suing Crown? Not so fast, says lawyer

NBR staff

Saturday May 05, 2012


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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 03:42:45 pm »

sumpin to keep you entertained when the rainy season starts

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Dotcom in tears as personal data revelations come out

Newstalk ZB
May 23, 2012, 4:09 pm

...His lawyer has told the court the seizure of data without leaving a copy for Dotcom, is another example of the heavy-handed and excessive use of force on his client. ...

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/13760443/dotcom-in-tears-as-personal-data-revelations-come-out

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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2012, 11:07:19 am »

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...The Government's lawyers have been ordered to explain how the FBI left the country with evidence in the Kim Dotcom case meant to be kept in "secure custody" by New Zealand police.
 
High Court Chief Justice Helen Winkelmann has told the Attorney-General's lawyer, Mike Ruffin, he has until Monday to explain why FBI agents were allowed to take 135 cloned computer and data storage devices to the United States. ...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10808032
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2012, 10:22:02 am »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/6995377/FBI-says-child-porn-found-on-Dotcoms-Megaupload-servers

Child porn pound on servers?
Sure.   Roll Eyes  And I'll lay odds that it wont be the last illicit stuff found - whether its there or not.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2012, 09:31:14 pm »

What are they trying to do?  Turn the tide of support for the guy?  That little news article just reinforced mine.  That's lower than a snakes belly!
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2012, 10:46:41 pm »

From the Stuff article.. "It's absolutely impossible for a cloud service to scrutinise what's on its servers."
If that's the case, how can the operators of the site be held responsible for any copyright infringements?
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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2012, 11:05:29 pm »

From the Stuff article.. "It's absolutely impossible for a cloud service to scrutinise what's on its servers."
If that's the case, how can the operators of the site be held responsible for any copyright infringements?

That, I believe, is exactly Dotcom's defence.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 10:14:11 am »

If the FBI were so intent on stamping out child porn and abuse, they would be shutting down a site called 'Omegle' or 'Omega' or some such shit.  My daughter brought through her laptop to my bedroom late last night to show me what she had reported to facebook.  It was a picture posted on a friend's wall, from one of that person's other friends.  It showed a young blonde girl in the front of the shot, with a large dildo being held just behind her ear (undoubtedly, by the structure of the picture, the original poster wanted people to think it was his own penis.... my opinion is it would have been approximately 9cms to long).  Omegle (or whatever) is a site that is 'live' and the picture the boy posted was a screenshot.

On the upside of this posting on fb (which has been removed this am), there were, at the time she showed me, 25 threats of violence against the original poster, and that was growing.  So teens on the whole are morally offended by it too.  But that doesn't affect the original poster on the original site. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 04:04:31 pm »

What are they trying to do?  Turn the tide of support for the guy?  That little news article just reinforced mine.  That's lower than a snakes belly!

It hasn't influenced my thinking.
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2012, 04:23:49 pm »

From the Stuff article.. "It's absolutely impossible for a cloud service to scrutinise what's on its servers."
If that's the case, how can the operators of the site be held responsible for any copyright infringements?
Anything can - and often does - happen in "The Land Of The Free"..........
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