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Title: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on June 27, 2010, 07:44:35 am
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3858799/Watch-out-TVNZ-Breakfast-big-mouth-strikes-again

Watch out TVNZ - Breakfast big mouth strikes again
By ADAM DUDDING - Sunday Star Times
Last updated 05:00 27/06/2010


Straight-talking TV host Paul Henry has put his foot in it again, calling his employer's programmes "banal" and "unwatchable", and questioning the taste and intelligence of the TV-viewing public.

Henry, who as presenter of TV One's Breakfast has delivered sniggering put-downs of targets including a hirsute Greenpeace spokeswoman and British singer Susan Boyle, said "banal" stories on TV One's news show Close Up and its TV3 rival Campbell Live end up being some of the "most-watched, the most commented-upon stuff" on television.

"I sometimes see stuff and personally despair, and I think: is that current affairs? But it actually is."

When asked if programme-makers were underestimating or overestimating the intelligence of the New Zealand public, Henry giggled and said: "I seriously worry we might be overestimating it."

He is often surprised by which stories rank highest on the TVNZ news website: "My God! The things people care about. They really do care about Victoria Beckham."

Henry made the comments to the Sunday Star-Times during an interview to promote 50 Years of TV News, a whistle-stop tour of the history of Kiwi news broadcasting, which he co-presents with newsreaders Simon Dallow and Wendy Petrie tonight.

The programme comes three weeks after TV One screened the similarly nostalgic Cheers for 50 Years, a celebrity quiz show fronted by Jason Gunn that was widely watched but viciously panned by reviewers as "juvenile", "low-rent" and "appalling". Henry appeared to side with the reviewers. "I found it unwatchable – but I'm in the minority."

In a rare instance of self-deprecation, Henry added that he was as likely as any viewer to be drawn to trivia and "salacious gossip", especially since he started reading headlines from the women's magazines on Breakfast.

"I spend time flicking through them and I am genuinely intrigued that Jennifer Aniston can look that good at 41. It is extraordinary!"

When asked if this suggested TV journalism was getting dumber, Henry said this was "too simplistic" a question, as a balance between worthy and trivial stories was necessary to keep viewers interested, and "We shouldn't condemn people for the things that interest them."

Instead, the important question to ask of broadcast journalists in New Zealand was "are we missing really important stories? And the answer is no".

Henry added that there was no danger of tonight's show being as "unwatchable" as the Jason Gunn special. "I wouldn't have said yes to doing it... I'm pretty fussy with the things that I'll do."


PAUL HENRY ON...

Doing push-ups: "Obese people wouldn't have to go up at all."

Getting salmonella from fresh tomatoes: "It could be just those Hispanic people who pick them."

Whether women can do anything: "No, they can't ... they have no grasp of technology."

Men watching women breastfeeding in public: "Go on, have a look; have a good look."

Old people in rest homes: "They've moved into another dimension."

Rats: "They're very clean ... they clean themselves with urine."

On broadcaster Merv Smith: "He looks a bit like a Buzzy Bee now."

To a cellphone user at a Simon and Garfunkel concert: "God, I hate people ... I hate you."

- 50 Years of TV News, TV One, 8.30pm tonight.



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on June 27, 2010, 09:12:41 am

Ummm, is this a infomercial make us get to the final sentence in the story?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on June 27, 2010, 10:37:32 am
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Doing push-ups: "Obese people wouldn't have to go up at all."

Whether women can do anything: "No, they can't ... they have no grasp of technology."

Hmmm still struggling to see what is wrong with speaking the truth


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ssweetpea on June 27, 2010, 01:05:44 pm
Maybe he needs to wave a big spoon around more often for some people to realise he is stirring.

There are plenty in here who have played the Devil's Adocate in here often enough to recognise when that is usually the case with Paul Henry.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on June 27, 2010, 02:32:34 pm
When Paul Henry goes, as he will in due course - he's already said he's not best pleased with getting up at 5 every morning - the world will be a slightly duller place.
He makes that show.  I wouldnt bother crossing the road to watch his side-kick [whatever her name is] drowning in the adjacent canal, let alone watch the show when she runs it in Henrys absence.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on June 27, 2010, 02:35:47 pm

Paul was very good as a foreign correspondent. That did not need the inclusion of "humour" in his presentations,
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Maybe he needs to wave a big spoon around more often for some people to realise he is stirring.
   

So right.  He does it inappropriately at times.

Ummm, is this a infomercial make us get to the final sentence in the story?

and are you going to watch at 8.30pm tonight?



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Calliope on June 27, 2010, 02:38:28 pm
I am sorry but after seeing him in his "Intrepid Journey" I lost all respect for the man. I totally abhor anyone who fails to respect another person's culture.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on June 27, 2010, 08:19:09 pm

Who'd want to watch breakfast TV anyway, no matter who was fronting it?

Morning TV news is basically light entertainment.

I want quality news in the morning, which is why I cannot be bothered with morning TV news.

Radio NZ National's Morning Report is quality news with comprehensive in-depth coverage of current events.

Which is probably why a shallow prime minister like John Key (the emperor with no clothes) refuses to front on that show most of the time (he has only appeared four times so far this year, refusing every other invitation, unlike Helen Clark who appeared to be put through the grill several times a week, and Jenny Shipley before her who likewise used to front up when asked). John Key obviously knows he would be ripped to shreds by the likes of Sean Plunket who would expose him for the NO-PRINCIPLES hollow shell he really is.

I listen to Morning Report for my news instead of the Paul Henry Frivilous Entertainment Show.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on June 27, 2010, 08:53:39 pm




Ummm, is this a infomercial make us get to the final sentence in the story?

harrumpff 





get back in front of the TV1 and watch his story history  TJ.   Tell me all about it tomorrow


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on June 27, 2010, 09:27:37 pm

Errrrrr....I'll be driving a train when Paul Henry bullshits his usual stuff tomorrow morning (is it called history now?).

We don't have television sets in locomotive cabs and even if we did, I still wouldn't watch Henry trying to be an entertainer.

Which reminds me....I've got to get up in just over six hours, so I might bugger off to bed very shortly.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on June 27, 2010, 10:02:49 pm
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programmes "banal" and "unwatchable", and questioning the taste and intelligence of the TV-viewing public.

This is true


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on June 28, 2010, 12:27:25 am

Who'd want to watch breakfast TV anyway, no matter who was fronting it?

Morning TV news is basically light entertainment.

I want quality news in the morning, which is why I cannot be bothered with morning TV news.

Radio NZ National's Morning Report is quality news with comprehensive in-depth coverage of current events.

Which is probably why a shallow prime minister like John Key (the emperor with no clothes) refuses to front on that show most of the time (he has only appeared four times so far this year, refusing every other invitation, unlike Helen Clark who appeared to be put through the grill several times a week, and Jenny Shipley before her who likewise used to front up when asked). John Key obviously knows he would be ripped to shreds by the likes of Sean Plunket who would expose him for the NO-PRINCIPLES hollow shell he really is.

I listen to Morning Report for my news instead of the Paul Henry Frivilous Entertainment Show.


Are you saying that Helen Clark were suitable for a poor quality morning tv show but John key knows better ?  LOL


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on June 28, 2010, 06:30:31 am

Who'd want to watch breakfast TV anyway, no matter who was fronting it?

Morning TV news is basically light entertainment.

I want quality news in the morning, which is why I cannot be bothered with morning TV news.

Radio NZ National's Morning Report is quality news with comprehensive in-depth coverage of current events.

Which is probably why a shallow prime minister like John Key (the emperor with no clothes) refuses to front on that show most of the time (he has only appeared four times so far this year, refusing every other invitation, unlike Helen Clark who appeared to be put through the grill several times a week, and Jenny Shipley before her who likewise used to front up when asked). John Key obviously knows he would be ripped to shreds by the likes of Sean Plunket who would expose him for the NO-PRINCIPLES hollow shell he really is.

I listen to Morning Report for my news instead of the Paul Henry Frivilous Entertainment Show.


I prefer watching light entertainment at that hour of the morning - if I watch anything at all.
 As for morning report - the least said about that the better.  I can get depressed easily enough without listining to that litany of doom and gloom, they produce every week morning.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on June 28, 2010, 06:45:30 am


at least the radio announcers don't have to smile. I find it easier to listen to TV, rather than watch it


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on June 28, 2010, 08:20:07 am
I love TV in the mornings...especially when it is turned off.  ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ssweetpea on June 28, 2010, 08:59:14 am

Who'd want to watch breakfast TV anyway, no matter who was fronting it?

Morning TV news is basically light entertainment.

I want quality news in the morning, which is why I cannot be bothered with morning TV news.

Radio NZ National's Morning Report is quality news with comprehensive in-depth coverage of current events.

Which is probably why a shallow prime minister like John Key (the emperor with no clothes) refuses to front on that show most of the time (he has only appeared four times so far this year, refusing every other invitation, unlike Helen Clark who appeared to be put through the grill several times a week, and Jenny Shipley before her who likewise used to front up when asked). John Key obviously knows he would be ripped to shreds by the likes of Sean Plunket who would expose him for the NO-PRINCIPLES hollow shell he really is.

I listen to Morning Report for my news instead of the Paul Henry Frivilous Entertainment Show.


It is a darn sight better than what is on the other channel - cartoons.

My kids like watching Breakfast and that is something I am not going to complain about.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: beaker on June 28, 2010, 09:20:52 pm
Ah - I need a good laugh in the mornings while I'm making lunches.  Love that Paul Henry - obnoxious callous prat that he is - love him!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on June 28, 2010, 09:33:25 pm
Are you saying that Helen Clark were suitable for a poor quality morning tv show but John key knows better ?  LOL


Nope....what I was saying (read it carefully) is that both Helen Clark and Jenny Shipley before her weren't too scared to appear on Radio NZ's Morning Report and be grilled by Sean Plunket.

However, John Key obviously wets himself with fear at the prospect of being exposed to Plunket as evidenced by his continual declining invitations to be interviewed on Morning Report (he has only appeared four times this year and then he refused to answer most questions put to him). The fact is that Plunket would tear John Key to shreds in a FULL no-holds-barred interview. Key has no substance at all compared with the two previous prime ministers and he knows Sean Plunket would expose him for the hollow shell he is.

One only has to ask what John Key actually stands for. He has flip-flopped over virtually every issue of substance since he became the Prime Minister. It is patently obvious that the ONLY principle held by John Key is to try and be Mr Popularity so he can try to hang on to power at all costs. Sean Plunket would expose that very rapidly. I imagine the huge cadre of spin-doctors in the Beehive are desperately trying to keep John Key off Morning Report as much as possible in order to avoid exposing him to Sean Plunket.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 20, 2010, 01:04:15 pm
Paul Henry bought the house down with an outrageous speech at the Qantas Film and TV Awards on Saturday night.

Henry, who won the inaugural People's Choice award at the industry ceremony, delighted the crowd with an acceptance speech that included frequent expletives.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4145576/Paul-Henrys-outrageous-awards-speech

Watch the video clip at the bottom.  Classic! 
I agree with the award, by the way.  Best entertainer on TV!


http://www.youtube.com/user/ctredpath  [if it works]


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on September 20, 2010, 02:09:17 pm




Wot - got yrself broadband?  I'm saving up vids till closer to my new download allocation

so that henry Harawira guy missed out


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ssweetpea on September 20, 2010, 02:10:21 pm
(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/2funny.gif)classic!

I love the bit about how his co-host who is beautiful in every way has allowed herself to become impregnated again by a recidivist offender. :D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 20, 2010, 03:58:25 pm
Have never liked Wetzell. 

I did like Kay Gregory, who was worth two of Wetzell, but she and Paul Henry didnt get on, apparantly.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on September 20, 2010, 05:59:52 pm

for those whose downloads are running xtra high, thanks to the quake here is a full ??? transcript of his speech, (minus the most offensive parts):

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7979421/paul-henry-the-speech


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on September 22, 2010, 10:56:34 am
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4154152/TV-review-Henry-callous-awful-but-we-like-him

Whether I agree with him or not, I do like him. Mainly because he gets under the skin of the overly PC in this country.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on September 22, 2010, 01:47:17 pm
Have never watched Breakfast but he filled in on TV1's Close Up a few times and I thought he was a total PRAT.

Mr F also thought he was an obnoxious prat and Mr F is about as opposite to 'PC' as you can get.   Anyway the PC term is used by many as an excuse for plain bad manners.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 22, 2010, 03:13:24 pm

The ONLY time Paul Henry put himself up in the ultimate popularity contest (standing for Parliament in an electorate in a general election), he got his arse kicked by a transvestite and by a HUGE margin. And that was in spite of the fact that his name was well known in the electorate due to having been a breakfast radio jock in that part of New Zealand for a few years prior to the general election he stood in.

Mind you, the fact he made some extremely nasty racist and sexist remarks about candidates from other political parties (he was standing on a Nats ticket) during the election campaign may have had something to do with his HUGE defeat.

So I guess that kinda says it all about Paul Henry, eh?  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/crazy2.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 22, 2010, 03:54:17 pm

The ONLY time Paul Henry put himself up in the ultimate popularity contest (standing for Parliament in an electorate in a general election), he got his arse kicked by a transvestite and by a HUGE margin. And that was in spite of the fact that his name was well known in the electorate due to having been a breakfast radio jock in that part of New Zealand for a few years prior to the general election he stood in.

Mind you, the fact he made some extremely nasty racist and sexist remarks about candidates from other political parties (he was standing on a Nats ticket) during the election campaign may have had something to do with his HUGE defeat.

So I guess that kinda says it all about Paul Henry, eh?  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/crazy2.gif)

No, not really.
You left out the part about saying what most New Zealanders think.

The sidebar poll shows absolutely massive support for him.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 22, 2010, 04:23:47 pm

That is the “lowest common demoninator being the most popular with the peasants & riff-raff” syndrome producing that result.

You get that in many fields, including music, the arts in general, people supporting “lock-em-up-and-chuck-away-the-key” politicians without thinking about the ultimate long-term consequences, and so-on.

Why do you think such huge crowds turn out for Steve Crow's rather sordid “boobs on bikes” parades?

Or why do you think 'mericans voted George W Bush into the White House, not once, but twice?

It's that “lowest common demominator syndrome” in action.

Paul Henry's popularity fits into that category. People who idolise him only think through the shallow populist surface stuff without looking at the deeper implications of things. The “lowest common demoinator syndrome!”


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 22, 2010, 04:28:23 pm

Anyway, I'm going to go and put my head down for a while.

I've got a splitting headache, a raging fever (I'm really burning up) even though I feel freezing cold (the temperature is 21°C in the room I'm in), I feel like keeling over if I attempt to walk more than about 20 metres, and I generally feel absolutely like shit.

So much for the flu vaccine, eh? I had a shot back in February....the first time I've had a flu shot for many years!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 24, 2010, 06:42:36 pm

Paul Henry showed his TRUE colours this morning in Christchurch while there for the Breakfast special.

I don't know if this went to air or not, but I have it on good authority firsthand from someone who was actually standing right there a few metres away when this exchange took place. Apparently Paul Henry produced a cheque for $10,000 made out to the Red Cross for the Christchurch Earthquake appeal and told John Key that he would donate the cheque in return for one of the defunct RNZAF Skyhawks. John Key said, “no, he couldn't have one of the Skyhawks”, but said he'd personally match Paul Henry's $10,000 donation, whereapon Paul Henry put his cheque back in his pocket and changed the subject.

In other words, he was merely on a big ego-stroking wankfest and when John Key called his bluff, he backed off making a donation!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on September 24, 2010, 07:49:51 pm

Paul Henry showed his TRUE colours this morning in Christchurch while there for the Breakfast special.

I don't know if this went to air or not, but I have it on good authority firsthand from someone who was actually standing right there a few metres away when this exchange took place. Apparently Paul Henry produced a cheque for $10,000 made out to the Red Cross for the Christchurch Earthquake appeal and told John Key that he would donate the cheque in return for one of the defunct RNZAF Skyhawks. John Key said, “no, he couldn't have one of the Skyhawks”, but said he'd personally match Paul Henry's $10,000 donation, whereapon Paul Henry put his cheque back in his pocket and changed the subject.

In other words, he was merely on a big ego-stroking wankfest and when John Key called his bluff, he backed off making a donation!
Yes it went to air....but who knows where the cheque went....you don't!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 24, 2010, 10:02:27 pm

Ah....he's such a funny bloke, that Paul Henry, eh?  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/grin.gif)

He makes a big thing live on-air (my friend who was a few metres away and who related the story to me didn't know if it was live on-air at that particular moment) about offering to donate $10,000 in return for a Skyhawk (even has the cheque in his hand), then when the Prime Minister says, “no he cannot have a Skyhawk,” but that he (the PM) will instead match Paul Henry's cheque with one of his own, Paul Henry decides to give the country the impression that he is a dick just so he can then secretly donate the $10,000 out of the public gaze (after making such a big thing about wanting to public donate $10,000, just so long as he got a Skyhawk in return) because he likes making himself appear to be on a big ego-stroking wankfest.

Yep, that Paul Henry sure is a funny chap!  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/2funny.gif)  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/azn.gif)  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/wink.gif)  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/cool.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on September 24, 2010, 10:54:34 pm

That is the “lowest common demoninator being the most popular with the peasants & riff-raff” syndrome producing that result.

You get that in many fields, including music, the arts in general, people supporting “lock-em-up-and-chuck-away-the-key” politicians without thinking about the ultimate long-term consequences, and so-on.

Why do you think such huge crowds turn out for Steve Crow's rather sordid “boobs on bikes” parades?

Or why do you think 'mericans voted George W Bush into the White House, not once, but twice?

It's that “lowest common demominator syndrome” in action.

Paul Henry's popularity fits into that category. People who idolise him only think through the shallow populist surface stuff without looking at the deeper implications of things. The “lowest common demoinator syndrome!”

Kind of like all those idiots marching against Isreal and other pathetic causes. You would think they would all have something better to do.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 25, 2010, 07:20:53 am
Yep.
Regardless of the spin KT, the poll shows the vast majority of the people like the man.  While I take these polls with a bit of a grain of salt, 80 odd percent is a hefty number.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/entertainment/tv/4154202?KeepThis=true&


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on September 25, 2010, 08:37:32 am
When I see PH I have a mad urge to slap him.(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/02emteeth.gif)  I get the impression he is good to his mum though so that earns him a few brownie points from me.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on September 25, 2010, 08:53:53 am
Yep.
Regardless of the spin KT, the poll shows the vast majority of the people like the man.  While I take these polls with a bit of a grain of salt, 80 odd percent is a hefty number.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/entertainment/tv/4154202?KeepThis=true&

SSSnnnooooort

polls aren't driven by supporters of the topic on social networking sites?


ya coulda fooled me. 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on September 25, 2010, 09:10:14 am
At least Paul Henry being a motor mouth covers up the fact that Pippa thingy has the personality of a housebrick.  ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 25, 2010, 09:18:47 am


SSSnnnooooort

polls aren't driven by supporters of the topic on social networking sites?


ya coulda fooled me. 

Or detractors, perchance?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on September 25, 2010, 02:38:10 pm
That is the “lowest common demoninator being the most popular with the peasants & riff-raff” syndrome producing that result.

So you must've voted overwhelmingly in favour of him then?!



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 25, 2010, 03:04:40 pm
That is the “lowest common demoninator being the most popular with the peasants & riff-raff” syndrome producing that result.

So you must've voted overwhelmingly in favour of him then?!


Nope....I voted for one of the candidates from other political parties that he made extremely nasty sexist and racist comments about.

One of those candidates was Georgina Beyer (he made both sexist AND racist nasty comments about her).

The candidate I voted for was a Maori (standing for NZ First) who Paul Henry likewise made nasty racist comments about because he was a Maori. I wouldn't have even considered voting for that candidate until Paul Henry spouted his racist put-down at a public meeting. I wasn't at the meeting personally, but I heard all about it from people who were, and it was all over the local newspaper the following day. That would have been the 2002 general election.

The interesting thing is that local opinion polls commissioned by the Wairarapa Times-Age showed the Labour and National candidates (Georgina Beyer and Paul Henry respectively) to be neck-and-neck until that meeting (in Masterton Town Hall) where Paul Henry showed his TRUE racist and sexist self. After that, further opinion polls commissioned by the Wairarapa Times-Age showed support for the National candidate plummetting. I bet the Nats heirachy were totally pissed off with Paul Henry for that, but naturally they said nothing in public about it.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on September 25, 2010, 03:10:50 pm
Nope....I voted for one of the candidates from other political parties that he made extremely nasty sexist and racist comments about.

One of those candidates was Georgina Beyer (he made both sexist AND racist nasty comments about her).

The candidate I voted for was a Maori (standing for NZ First) who Paul Henry likewise made nasty racist comments about because he was a Maori. I wouldn't have even considered voting for that candidate until Paul Henry spouted his racist put-down at a public meeting. I wasn't at the meeting personally, but I heard all about it from people who were, and it was all over the local newspaper the following day. That would have been the 2002 general election.

The interesting thing is that local opinion polls commissioned by the Wairarapa Times-Age showed the Labour and National candidates (Georgina Beyer and Paul Henry respectively) to be neck-and-neck until that meeting (in Masterton Town Hall) where Paul Henry showed his TRUE racist and sexist self. After that, further opinion polls commissioned by the Wairarapa Times-Age showed support for the National candidate plummetting. I bet the Nats heirachy were totally pissed off with Paul Henry for that, but naturally they said nothing in public about it.

So he wasn't/ isn't popular with all the peasants and ri raff then!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 25, 2010, 04:07:09 pm
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Paul Henry likewise made nasty racist comments about because he was a Maori

You can, of course, give some quotes?
Oh - Thats right, you wern't there. ::)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on September 25, 2010, 05:06:02 pm
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The candidate I voted for was a Maori (standing for NZ First) who Paul Henry likewise made nasty racist comments about because he was a Maori. I wouldn't have even considered voting for that candidate until Paul Henry spouted his racist put-down at a public meeting. I wasn't at the meeting personally, but I heard all about it from people who were,
So thats how some of these wankers get voted in.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 25, 2010, 05:31:38 pm

I will vote for the underdog if some tosser like Paul Henry is being a nasty racist, sexist arsehole and playing dirty tricks.

A lot of other people obviously felt the same way about his nasty racist, sexist arsehole comments, because all of a sudden, instead of the local Labour and National candidates being level pegging in local opinion polls (commissioned by the local Wairarapa daily newspaper), support for Paul Henry dropped off dramatically while support for Edwin Perry (the NZ First candidate) and Georgina Beyer (the Labour candidate) — the two targets of Paul Henry's nasty racist & sexist remarks — rose dramatically, and that was borne out by the actual poll results on election day when the National Party copped a real pasting in the Wairarapa electorate because of their candidate's nasty racist, sexist put-downs of other candidates. And until then, Paul Henry was well-liked in Wairarapa due to having been a popular breakfast radio jock for several years before he blotted his copy book in public like that. It certainly opened my eyes to his TRUE personna.

Paul Henry did that to both himself and the Nats by showing his TRUE colours at a “meet the candidates” pre-election public meeting.

Perhaps some people prefer the sort of dirty, nasty politics practised by Paul Henry in the 2002 general election?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 25, 2010, 05:33:37 pm
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Paul Henry likewise made nasty racist comments about because he was a Maori

You can, of course, give some quotes?
Oh - Thats right, you wern't there. ::)

I was told about it by people who WERE there.

And it was all over the front page of the Wairarapa Times-Age the following day.

Get your head out of the sand....Paul Henry let slip his TRUE colours during the 2002 general election campaign. And the results in the Wairarapa electorate graphically displayed what local people thought of his comments and attitude.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on September 25, 2010, 05:43:58 pm
I didn't think anyone took any notice of anything PH said.  ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 25, 2010, 06:05:28 pm
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I was told about it by people who WERE there.



Uh-Huh.   ::)


Actually, if I ever knew he was a candidate, I certainly forgot it early..........

Immaterial anyway.  I like the guy and his attitude to life.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: akadaka on September 25, 2010, 06:13:29 pm
bloddy hell it was 8 years ago kiwi,let it go and chill out ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ballasted moth on September 25, 2010, 06:43:14 pm
 The person KTJ voted for is a good natured moron just wallpaper to support Winston's ego


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on September 25, 2010, 06:48:43 pm

I actually wasn't all that interested in the 2002 general election until Paul Henry let rip with some nasty racist & sexist put-downs of other candidates in Masterton. I hadn't bothered to vote in the 1999 general election, and it is quite possible I wouldn't have bothered to vote in the 2002 general election either. That is until Paul Henry suddenly created underdogs by being an arsehole. So I got off my arse and voted and gave my electorate vote to one of those candidates who were on the receiving end of Paul Henry's nasty putdowns.

In 2005, it was the Exclusive Brethren who galvanised me into giving a vote to the political party they were slagging off at, even though those religious hypocrites banned their own flock from voting or taking part in politics. If they hadn't been behaving like hypocrites, I probably wouldn't even have bothered, but when religious shithead cultists try to influence a general election in the way they did while banning their own church members from taking part in the election, then I'll vote for the underdog they have created with their bypocrisy.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on September 25, 2010, 07:03:01 pm
mmmmm
Damned if I let anyones actions dictate the way I vote!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on September 25, 2010, 08:19:55 pm

Special for peeps wot just got B/B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu1eWIGo-XI&feature=player_embedded

Check out some of the others on the playlist   ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on September 26, 2010, 06:26:33 pm

shocked!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/opinion/4166958/They-came-bearing-gifts


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 04, 2010, 10:23:23 am

Henry in hot water over Governor-General comments
NZPA
October 4, 2010, 9:09 am

Television New Zealand host Paul Henry today questioned whether Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand is a New Zealander or not.

When assured by Prime Minister John Key that he was Henry asked if he was going to pick someone who looked more like a New Zealander next time.

Sir Anand is New Zealand's first Governor-General of Indian and Pacific ancestry. He had a lengthy career as a lawyer, judge and ombudsman before taking up the job in August 2006.

He was born and raised in Auckland, attending Richmond Road School in Ponsonby, and Sacred Heart College in Glen Innes. His parents were born in Fiji and migrated to New Zealand, his grandparents were born in India and had migrated to Fiji.

On the Breakfast programme this morning Henry asked the Prime Minister about who he was looking to replace Sir Anand with when his five year term ends this year.

"Is he even a New Zealander?" Henry asked.

Mr Key said he was.

"Are you going to choose a New Zealander who looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time... Are we going to go for someone who is more like a New Zealander this time?"

Mr Key appeared uncomfortable with the questioning but moved on to joking about whether Henry wanted the job.

He said whoever was chosen would need to be acceptable to other parties and his selection would be run by Labour.

"This is the Queen's representative and you don't want to embroil her in a domestic political spat."

A spokesman for Broadcasting Minister Jonathan Coleman said Henry's remarks were a matter for TVNZ to comment on. Calls to the broadcaster were not immediately returned.

Sir Anand is in India for the Commonwealth Games. NZPA is seeking comment.

Henry's remark follows a slew of off-colour remarks.

He previously called Scottish singing star Susan Boyle as "retarded" which The Broadcasting Standards Authority (BSA) found breached the broadcasting standard relating to discrimination and denigration.

"He mocked and belittled Ms Boyle on the basis of her intellectual disability. This is contrary to common decency and a clear breach of the good taste and decency standard."

On another occasion he mocked the facial hair of one of his female guests anti-nuclear campaigner and Greenpeace worker Stephanie Mills.

"It was a moustache on a lady," he said. The BSA also upheld a complaint over that one.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8062831/henry-in-hot-water-over-governor-general-comments/


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 04, 2010, 10:47:58 am
Fair comment, however he went down in my estimation when he referred to Turia as [and I quote] "Hot." (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/09emcrook.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 04, 2010, 11:14:34 am

From yesterday's HERALD on SUNDAY newspaper — yet another example of Paul Henry being a nasty arsehole....


Paul Henry talks his way into trouble (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10677836)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 04, 2010, 12:03:57 pm
(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/azn.gif)  I think I am beginning to like Paul Henry.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 04, 2010, 01:02:04 pm
(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/azn.gif)  I think I am beginning to like Paul Henry.


Good to see you like people who deliberately pronounce other people's names in an obscene way, even when the correct pronunciation is pointed out to the idiot Paul Henry.

Perhaps I should start pronouncing his name Paul “kiddy-fiddler” Henry and continuing to do so even when the correct pronunciation is pointed out to me, eh?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 04, 2010, 02:31:52 pm
One of the biggest problems today is that everybody is offended.  Everybody is angry.   Just look what happens on this board when you express a personal opinion.      So much anger.   There is so much angst and gnashing of teeth around here that even this board has come to a stand still.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 04, 2010, 03:27:42 pm

There was an item on the 4:00pm Radio New Zealand News about Paul Henry apologising profusely to our New Zealand-born & bred Governor General for slagging him off.

I betcha the idiot's bosses at TVNZ freaked out over him being an arsehole towards our head of state in that way and brought the hammer down on him and told him to grovel.

The man is clearly an idiot (and a total tosser)....just look at the way he slagged off at Susan Boyle and called her a RETARD.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 04, 2010, 04:15:05 pm
Paul Henry is the retard.   He probably didn't even know that Anand was born and grew up in NZ.
Henry says these things to get attention otherwise no one would notice him.  Thats all he's interested in.

...or maybe he was called Windowhead when he was a kid. 

when he won some award recently someone said to me  "Says a lot about Kiwi's doesn't it"   


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: akadaka on October 04, 2010, 04:30:14 pm
paul henry was being brilliant as usual.If you see the whole show there was a bit of slagging off about van dyke being the flag carrier for n.z and a few texted in with comments like "she was not born here " and "what a stupid name she has got,sounds like a lesbian".What paul did was very similar and i think a parody of those comments where he knew the more intelligent viewers would have picked it up!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 04, 2010, 04:36:09 pm
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Perhaps I should start pronouncing his name Paul “kiddy-fiddler” Henry and continuing to do so even when the correct pronunciation is pointed out to me, eh?

Hmmmmm

Ive tried and tried, but I can see no way that kiddy-fiddler can be confused with with the pronunciation of Paul Henry, but hey.......  Whatever floats your boat!
He still has an 80% popularity rating in spite of your opinion.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 04, 2010, 04:40:53 pm
He still has an 80% popularity rating in spite of your opinion.


Ferney hit the nail right on the head.....

“when he won some award recently someone said to me  "Says a lot about Kiwi's doesn't it" ...”


I could easily picture Paul Henry rolling around the ground pissing himself laughing while pointing at intellectually-disabled people. After all, he did call Susan Boyle a RETARD on primetime television in NZ, so I suppose that isn't too much different to pointing at intellectually-disabled people in public and laughing at them.

I guess those 80% of NZers would cheer Paul Henry on while he behaves like that too!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 04, 2010, 05:33:23 pm


Contributor quits Breakfast after Henry's comments
Yahoo!Xtra
October 4, 2010, 1:49 pm

Tech commentator Ben Gracewood has quit the Breakfast show after Paul Henry questioned whether Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand is a New Zealander or not.

Henry urged the Prime Minister to select a Governor-General who "looks and sounds more like a New Zealander," sparking complaints from offended viewers.

Gracewood, who regularly reviews tech gadgets on Breakfast, has walked away from the show after the latest comments from Henry.

He wrote on his online blog saying he was "resigning my post as a regular gadget and tech presenter... I decided I’ve had enough... anyone who would like to foment racism simply for a laugh or to get more viewers can take a jump."

Sir Anand is New Zealand's first Governor-General of Indian and Pacific ancestry. He had a lengthy career as a lawyer, judge and ombudsman before taking up the job in August 2006.

He was born and raised in Auckland, attending Richmond Road School in Ponsonby, and Sacred Heart College in Glen Innes. His parents were born in Fiji and migrated to New Zealand, his grandparents were born in India and had migrated to Fiji.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/8064609/contributor-quits-breakfast-after-henrys-comments/


Paul Henry: the best and worst comments
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/news-gallery/a/-/article/7992610/image/1/the-controversial-paul-henry/



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 04, 2010, 05:35:31 pm
Quote
I guess those 80% of NZers would cheer Paul Henry on while he behaves like that too!

Quite possibly.  Who cares?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 04, 2010, 05:49:48 pm


Trouble is he cuts too close to the bone; honesty as general entertainment should not so be brutal.

 imo using it nation-wide is unfair, keeping it for your own circle of friends is probably acceptable



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 04, 2010, 06:16:30 pm
People take it all too seriously.  This man is paid to entertain and he is getting lots of free advertising.     I can easily imagine that people who have never watched his show will tune in tomorrow to see what he is all about.   He knows that being controversial will put his face on the front page.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 04, 2010, 06:28:41 pm
People take it all too seriously.  This man is paid to entertain and he is getting lots of free advertising.     I can easily imagine that people who have never watched his show will tune in tomorrow to see what he is all about.   He knows that being controversial will put his face on the front page.

                          (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/cheesy.gif)  at least he didn't ask if Sir Anand Satyanand's parents were married --- or even worse, overstayers.   (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/coolsmiley.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 04, 2010, 06:40:31 pm
And he didn't call him a retard. ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 04, 2010, 07:09:06 pm
I think that on this occasion, what he said was a bit over the top, and it deserved an apology, which he has given.
Should be the end of it in my opinion.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 04, 2010, 11:43:18 pm
People take it all too seriously.  This man is paid to entertain and he is getting lots of free advertising.     I can easily imagine that people who have never watched his show will tune in tomorrow to see what he is all about.   He knows that being controversial will put his face on the front page.

I always have this mental picture of lots of people watching "breakfast" just so they cab be the first to complain. I bet they are so disappointed when he doesn't upset them.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: TokGal on October 05, 2010, 06:49:40 am
Sir Anand Satyanand is not offended by Paul Henry's comments, so why should other people be, he wasn't referring to them?

People get on their high horse over nothing sometimes.

It was said in a joking way, but then maybe the people who complained were of Indian descent and have no sense of humour?

Yes Paul Henry says some things that are meant to be shocking, but in some cases it can be refreshing to throw all the PC crap out of the window.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 05, 2010, 06:55:27 am
Hey KTJ and all the others championing PC crap, there was a song we sang as kids. It starts with 'sticks and stones.' How about you google that and then listen to the great message in that song.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 05, 2010, 07:18:28 am
Hey KTJ and all the others championing PC crap, there was a song we sang as kids. It starts with 'sticks and stones.' How about you google that and then listen to the great message in that song.
I fear the great NZ sense of humour is dead.   I have just watched the interview with John Key again and I think he did a good job of suppressing his laughter and saw the comment for what it was.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 05, 2010, 08:00:55 am




I only watched it as it played, wondered how He was going to take it - thought he looked non-plussed but handled it well..must go find replay on demand


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: dragontamer on October 05, 2010, 08:23:26 am
Quote
FULL STATEMENT

I have something very important to say this morning.

Yesterday, a lot of people got very upset about a comment that I made regarding the Governer General when I was talking with the Prime Minister, you may have seen it. I'd like you all to know that I have the greatest respect for Sir Anand Satyanand.

I don't know him personally but I understand his reputation is beyond reproach. He is highly respected in both judicial circles as a former judge and as the Queen's representative here in New Zealand. He's done a very fine job as Govenor General and I am sincerely sorry if I seemed disrespectful to him.

That was not what I intended and I certainly didn't intend to sound racist. It was wrong of me to ask the questions that I did.

Sir Anand was born in New Zealand. His lineage, as far as I can ascertain, is far more dignified than mine which makes him a better candidate for Govenor General than me. Most people think I'm British but the truth is much, much worse than that.

Like the Govenor General, I was born in New Zealand, however I'm at least half what they colloquially call in Europe, a Gypo. So, let me make it quite clear. I will never apologise for causing outrage. However, I will and do apologise sincerely for causing real hurt and upset to anyone, no matter what their background, who works to make this country a better country.

So in that spirit, I apologise unreservedly to Sir Anand and his family. He's a very distinguished man. I am a Gypo television presenter.

From the stuff article.  The GG seems happy with that, so I'm all good. (Waits for the gypsies to get antsy.)  ;)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 05, 2010, 08:37:34 am
I watched it.
Very handsome apology I thought.  And delivered with his usual twist of humour at the end which, no doubt, the nay sayers will squeal about. ::)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ares Abani on October 05, 2010, 08:55:12 am
"Most people think I'm British but the truth is much, much worse than that." ;D

He sounds like a funny feller to me.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 05, 2010, 09:14:50 am

at least it's on the way to wiping the earthquake off the international news in one day, I am up to Page 4 of about 15,100 results (0.41 seconds) in a google search for Anand Satyanand paul henry john key interview video.

About 2,490 results (0.09 seconds) for nz earthquake news(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/2funny.gif), today

I found this http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&gal_objectid=10678060&gallery_id=114288


and looking on the bright side, I repeat:
People take it all too seriously.  This man is paid to entertain and he is getting lots of free advertising.     I can easily imagine that people who have never watched his show will tune in tomorrow to see what he is all about.   He knows that being controversial will put his face on the front page.

                          (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/cheesy.gif)  at least he didn't ask if Sir Anand Satyanand's parents were married --- or even worse, overstayers.   (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/coolsmiley.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 05, 2010, 11:15:14 am
Henry been suspended for a fortnight.  That should see the ratings plummet - his colleagues have the personalities of a brick. 
The missus reckons she wont be watching it till he returns........ so as I only watch when she turns it on - I guess I wont be either! (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/03emwink.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 05, 2010, 11:39:25 am
Calling it PC when things said are plain rude and obnoxious is total crap.   The 'PC'  is just another 'at the end of the day' 'moving forward' speak.
Too often its used as an excuse for plain rudeness, thinking you can say what you like and if anyone objects, they are labelled PC...its so boring..  Think up something more original to say.
   



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 05, 2010, 12:18:33 pm
The missus reckons she wont be watching it till he returns........ so as I only watch when she turns it on - I guess I wont be either! (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/03emwink.gif)


I never watch Breakfast on TV1, or any other breakfast program on television.

I want REAL news in the morning, not a bunch of idiots trying to be funny and entertaining while pretending they are running a news program.

I listen to REAL news....Radio NZ's Morning Report (the program John Key was too shit-scared to appear on while Sean Plunket was one of the presenters) to get the news and intelligent discussion and analysis about the news.

I occasionally see a brief glimpse of the idiot who usually fronts Breakfast on TV1 (and his bimbos) when I drive the first train from Masterton to Wellington (as I did this morning) and I head into the Tranz Metro staff lunchroom to grab a coffee while waiting for the car-shunt to pull the train from the locomotive after all of the passengers have disembarked. The “80% lowest common demonimnator” folks who work for Tranz Metro (and who are having a meal break at that time of the morning) usually have the large-screen TV set in their lunch room on TV1, so that is how I occasionally see a brief glimpse of the idiot during the minute or so I am in there making a coffee before jumping back on the locomotive and taking it to the diesel depot for servicing.

I certainly won't miss the idiot over the next fortnight (the little bit I glimpse him) and I'll continue to indulge in REAL news in the mornings.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 05, 2010, 12:55:42 pm
Calling it PC when things said are plain rude and obnoxious is total crap.   The 'PC'  is just another 'at the end of the day' 'moving forward' speak.
Too often its used as an excuse for plain rudeness, thinking you can say what you like and if anyone objects, they are labelled PC...its so boring..  Think up something more original to say.

   
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Ash01/Gifs/suspect.gif)



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 05, 2010, 01:11:56 pm
I think Ferney needs to grow a thicker skin.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Alicat on October 05, 2010, 04:11:26 pm
I think that on this occasion, what he said was a bit over the top, and it deserved an apology, which he has given.
Should be the end of it in my opinion.

(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/afro.gif) what he said!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 05, 2010, 07:41:57 pm
I watched it.
Very handsome apology I thought.  And delivered with his usual twist of humour at the end which, no doubt, the nay sayers will squeal about. ::)

IMO the on-air apology was seriously awe full.   (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/huh.gif)        

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/video.cfm?c_id=1501119&gal_objectid=10678313&gallery_id=114300


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 06, 2010, 06:26:28 am
I watched it.
Very handsome apology I thought.  And delivered with his usual twist of humour at the end which, no doubt, the nay sayers will squeal about. ::)

IMO the on-air apology was seriously awe full.   (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/huh.gif)        

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/video.cfm?c_id=1501119&gal_objectid=10678313&gallery_id=114300
I agree.  PH doesn't do serious very well.     There are some very pious people strutting about this day having put things to rights.  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/angel.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 06, 2010, 06:47:59 am
Those that lack the backbone to display a sense of humour will be the death of our species


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 06, 2010, 09:43:27 am
Calling it PC when things said are plain rude and obnoxious is total crap.   The 'PC'  is just another 'at the end of the day' 'moving forward' speak.
Too often its used as an excuse for plain rudeness, thinking you can say what you like and if anyone objects, they are labelled PC...its so boring..  Think up something more original to say.
   



Hark I see the coming of a death knell! There slowly dieth the freedom of speech!... by inches!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 06, 2010, 10:04:58 am

Hark I see the coming of a death knell! There slowly dieth the freedom of speech!... by inches!

Those that lack the backbone to display a sense of humour will be the death of our species

Anf, Crusader, et al:

the next step in non-pc freedom of speech will be porn freely available on the net and on TV plus LIVE demonstrations on Reality Tv

(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/angry.gif)Would you be happy with your family participating in or watching that?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 06, 2010, 12:15:47 pm
I believe there is a time and place and TV presenting is not the place.   I have to ask this and that is if e.g. Susan Boyle or the GG had been in the studio on air, would PH have said what he said to their faces ?   No, he would not, so he is a coward.
   
Lets not hear anymore on students lack of respect for their teachers or kids to their parents.    Kids of any age can say what they like to who they like....because its all about freedom of speech.   Its their sense of humour, don't you know.

I have never been threatened by anothers colour, religious or culture and I have no need to slag off and I have  never had a need or desire to slag off someone with a disability.

Our 10 yr old grandson lives with us and he is maori.    His teacher has sat a child with learning difficulties next to him and he helps this boy.    He likes helping him.   Would it be ok if my grandson called him a retard.  According to some of you guys its OK.   
On race and different cultures, he says "we are all the same and no one is better than someone else.   Maybe PH should come to spend a term in a classroom at a South Auckland school and learning something.   


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 06, 2010, 02:02:27 pm

Hark I see the coming of a death knell! There slowly dieth the freedom of speech!... by inches!

Those that lack the backbone to display a sense of humour will be the death of our species

Anf, Crusader, et al:

the next step in non-pc freedom of speech will be porn freely available on the net and on TV plus LIVE demonstrations on Reality Tv

(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/angry.gif)Would you be happy with your family participating in or watching that?


Ahh now before you jump to the wrong assumptions; there is indeed a need for brounderies the question is where do you draw the line, what is needed is to stick to a happy medium and not go to far one way or the other, the problem is now in our socialistic country we are in danger of going to far into the over pretective and/ or what ever you say, say nothing about the you know what... you won't even be able to tell irish jokes about the irish being backward!

I'm not saying we should be allowed to let the likes of racism run rampant as you or ferney may or may not believe I am; nor am I saying porn etc should be let porn freely available on the net and on TV plus LIVE demonstrations on Reality Tv.

As I said there is a limit certainly; But we are becoming so soft skinned in a lot of respects in this country, once many things were just like water off a ducks back now many get upset at the least little thing!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 06, 2010, 02:55:04 pm

Paul Henry has gone too far

TRACY WATKINS on POLITICS

Guest Blog by MARTIN KAY - The Dominion Post | 1:57PM - Monday, 04 October 2010

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PAUL HENRY has built a career on the back of his abrasive, shoot-from-the-lip style, never afraid to offend and never far from controversy.

But he has gone way over the line with his comment that Governor-General Anand Satyanand doesn't look or sound like a New Zealander.

To his credit, Prime Minister John Key was visibly uncomfortable when Henry asked whether the next Governor-General would be more like a Kiwi than Satyanand, though he should have done more to rubbish the suggestion that Satyanand is somehow not a New Zealander because he has Indian heritage.

Anyone who has met Satyanand would be left in little doubt he is a Kiwi — hardly surprising given that he was born and raised in Auckland and spent his professional career in New Zealand.

He may not speak with a Taranaki twang, but his vowels are certainly far less rounded than those of his predecessor, Dame Silvia Cartwright, and — if we're doing the who sounds most Kiwi thing — his enunciation far less clipped than Henry's.

Which is also perhaps not surprising, given Henry did most of his schooling in England, where he moved with his mother at the age of about 11, and he worked extensively for BBC radio and television before returning home.

It is difficult to escape the conclusion that Satyanand is not Kiwi enough for Henry because he is not white or Maori and he has a name that's a bit hard to spell and pronounce.

Which is sad, given the fact that nearly one in ten Kiwis are of Asian descent, and about 105,000 declared Indian ethnicity at the last census (the real figure may be higher, as the third biggest ethnic group after European and Maori is "other").

Satyanand's elevation to the Governor-General's job was recognition for years of service as a judge and Parliamentary Ombudsman, and was widely viewed as a further step in the maturing of New Zealand as a multi-cultural nation where Jack is as good as his master  and Jill as her mistress and who you are, not what you sound like or how you look, is what matters.

It is a value that seems to have passed Henry by.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/blogs/tracy-watkins-on-politics/4195446/Paul-Henry-has-gone-too-far (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/blogs/tracy-watkins-on-politics/4195446/Paul-Henry-has-gone-too-far)



Editorial: Henry slur a sign of TVNZ's weakness

The Dominion Post | Wednesday, 06 October 2010

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THE RIGHTNESS of Paul Henry's suspension from TVNZ's Breakfast show is matched only by the wrongness of the state broadcaster's initial attempts to excuse his racially offensive remarks on Monday morning.

The corporation has forgotten what it means to be a public broadcaster.

Henry is not everyone's cup of tea. He is irritatingly smug and a playground bully who delights in picking on those weaker than himself.

But he is also a quirky, at times amusing, broadcaster who has helped to give his employer a huge advantage over its free-to-air rival TV3 at the start of the television day.

However, the commercial benefits of his shock-jock antics should not blind TVNZ to its responsibilities as a public broadcaster or even as a corporate citizen.

It was utterly wrong for Henry to belittle Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand during an interview with Prime Minister John Key because he did not "look and sound" like a New Zealander.

The New Zealand-born and educated Sir Anand is big and savvy enough to look after himself. However, Henry's remarks were a slur not just on the governor-general but on every New Zealander who does not share his skin colour.

Curiously, Henry appears to have recognised that before his employer did. He issued an inadequate apology "for any offence I might have caused" on Monday afternoon and a full, comprehensive, on-air apology yesterday morning.

Meantime, TVNZ was still trying to pass off his remarks as an inconsequential jape. "The audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud," a company spokeswoman said.

Presumably TVNZ would use the same logic to defend President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitic rants were it operating in Iran.

It was not until more than 24 hours after the event that the company realised it had misread the public, or political, winds, suspended Henry without pay, and issued an apology that included an undertaking from chief executive Rick Ellis to personally apologise to the governor-general.

There is no disputing Henry's right to vent his prejudices. In fact, enabling him to do so serves a useful purpose.

One of the virtues of free speech is that it exposes to public scrutiny the dark corners in the minds of those who seek to influence others.

"Let her [truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter," wrote poet John Milton in 1644.

However, a publicly owned broadcaster should not seek to profit from cheap shots that marginalise minority groups.

TVNZ's belated recognition of the untenability of its position is yet another reason for the Government to consider the broadcaster's future. With its puerile news service and near-constant diet of reality shows and foreign programmes, TVNZ is indistinguishable from its private-sector rivals. It should be sold to the highest bidder.

The public service component of broadcasting can be preserved through NZ On Air funding of specific programmes.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/editorials/4200549/Editorial-Henry-slur-a-sign-of-TVNZs-weakness (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/editorials/4200549/Editorial-Henry-slur-a-sign-of-TVNZs-weakness)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 06, 2010, 02:55:46 pm

Racist slurs sanctioned by ratings quest

Brian Rudman on Auckland

The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:30AM - Wednesday, October 06, 2010

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Paul Henry offends viewers consistently.
 — Photo: Greg Bowker.


WHEN Television New Zealand bosses sit down to choose a replacement Breakfast host over the next few days, as they surely must, they should take their cue from the question disgraced presenter Paul Henry put to Prime Minister John Key regarding the next Governor-General.

"Are you going to choose a New Zealander who looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time ... Are we going to go for someone who is more like a New Zealander this time?"

Henry's attempt on Monday to buddy up to the Prime Minister with casual racist slurs against New Zealand-born Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was vile enough.

But equally repulsive was his assumption that he represented the true New Zealander and that Ponsonby boy, Sir Anand, because of his Indian descent, was the outsider.

What sort of Governor-General does Henry have in mind? One of the minor British aristocracy or retired military gents that were forced on us until the late 1960s, perhaps? Perhaps he fancies recently departed British High Commissioner George Fergusson to revive that particular vice-regal dynasty.

His dad, Brigadier Bernard Fergusson, complete with monocle and feathered headgear, reigned over us as the last non-New Zealand Governor-General in the mid 1960s. Sir Bernard's father, and both his grandfathers, had lorded over us before that.

If Henry had been around in the mid-60s, the proposal he put to Key would have been appropriate.

To ask it now is just insulting.

Which part of Sir Anand's make-up does Henry find un-New Zealand? His long and happy marriage? His distinguished legal career? His battle with the bulge? Or his Indian ancestry?


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The worry is that weeding Henry out will be not enough to clean up the rot at TVNZ.

Henry's views are not just tolerated but actively supported at state television. After his comments on Monday, TVNZ spokeswoman Andi Brotherston told NZPA's Maggie Tait that "the audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out aloud. The question of John Key is the same, we want the answer but are too scared to ask."

Who is the "we" she refers to? TVNZ as a whole? She and her mates? Christchurch skinheads?

There's a deep sickness within the state broadcaster that allows Brotherston the licence to brazenly defend Henry's racist utterances as some act of public service, to argue that Henry was asking the racist questions the rest of us are too scared to mouth openly.

It's not true, and in a multi-ethnic country it's a totally unacceptable stance for a public broadcaster to take.

As for Prime Minister Key, what a missed opportunity. While obviously embarrassed by the question, instead of slapping Henry down and defending the Governor-General and the reality of a multi-ethnic New Zealand, he giggled away the question.

Under questioning later, Key said Henry's comments were "plain wrong" but refused to condemn the man or to boycott his weekly appearance on the show.

Off the hook, Henry first accused his critics as people who "are very easily offended" then, later, as criticism grew, issued a half-hearted apology to Sir Anand - but only "if my comments have personally offended" him.

There was nothing from the man suggesting any regret for his besmirching the reputation of TVNZ or stirring up race hatred in the land.

Yesterday morning, as the outrage spread, he made another attempt at an apology on his show by claiming he was half a "gypo" — a reference to his gypsy background.

This somehow made his slur against the Governor-General's Indian ancestry all right. When is he going to understand that in a multicultural society it's not all right to make slurs against "gypos" or Indians?

Last week, he was sniggering like an adolescent schoolboy at the name of New Delhi Chief Minister, Sheila Dikshit.

A month before, it was the lesser abilities of immigrant — read Asian — doctors. And that's just the most recent victims of his mindless bullying.

To its shame, TVNZ has lapped it up. Last month, after Henry sprayed a string of obscenities at an apparently delighted television awards audience, his boss, TVNZ head of news and current affairs Anthony Flannery, told the Herald on Sunday: "He may be polarising, at times he may be controversial, but ever increasing numbers of viewers love watching him."

Audiences numbers would also go up if TVNZ were to add public floggings and the dipping stool to Henry's breakfast show menu. But the quest of high audience ratings wouldn't make these medieval revivals right.

Or a justification for state television's abandonment of any standards in the hunt for an audience.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10678366 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10678366)



Suspended Henry delivers tirade

By VAIMOANA TAPALEAO (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/vaimoana-tapaleao/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=367), DAVID LEGGAT (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/david-leggat/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=42), DAVID EAMES (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/david-eames/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=211) and CHARLOTTE WOODFIELD - The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:30AM - Wednesday, October 06, 2010

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Paul Henry gives his heated message to the Herald on a
road outside his home yesterday after TVNZ suspended
him without pay for two weeks. — Photo: NZ Herald.


SUSPENDED TV star Paul Henry yesterday hurled an expletive-laden outburst at journalists as TVNZ faced demands to sack him over his racist on-air comments.

The under-fire Breakfast host was yesterday suspended by TVNZ without pay for two weeks for his comments in which he asked Prime Minister John Key if Governor-General Anand Satyanand was "even a New Zealander", then urged him to choose a successor who "looks and sounds more like a New Zealander".

Henry's comments have drawn rebukes and criticism from the Race Relations Commissioner, politicians, ethnic and community organisations and thousands of people who have posted comments on websites.

Approached yesterday for comment at his North Shore home, Henry at first declined to comment.

Minutes later, he drove his car to Herald reporters — who had left his property and were on a shared road — and made his verbal assault.

"Get off my f**king land," he shouted. "Have you got your pictures now? Have you taken photos of my property or any of my neighbours' properties? If any photos are published I'll sue the f**king paper."

When he was not given a response, he yelled: "Can you not speak, you there in the car? I will f**king sue your paper."

TVNZ is also facing criticism over an initial statement in which spokeswoman Andi Brotherston defended Henry, saying he often said what "we quietly think but are scared to say out loud".

Last night, TVNZ reported that Henry's on-air remarks had generated a record 600 complaints to the state broadcaster, and had made headline news in India.

By midday yesterday, it was the third most popular story on the Times of India website's world section.

The head of the Broadcasting Standards Authority said Henry's comments had created the biggest "onslaught" of complaints since the last time the broadcaster caused controversy.

Chief executive Dominic Sheehan told the Herald his organisation had not received as many angry calls since last November, when Henry referred to UK singing sensation Susan Boyle as retarded.

Earlier yesterday, TVNZ spokeswoman Megan Richards told the Herald the broadcaster had received "several hundred formal complaints, which will be handled as quickly as we can manage".

TVNZ chief executive Rick Ellis said he had told the host his comments had been inappropriate, and his apology — delivered live on air yesterday — was "the right thing to do".

"We give Paul a lot of freedom with the Breakfast programme and he does a magnificent job. But as we have said before, with that freedom comes responsibility."


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But the Unite Union said suspending Henry, "the poster boy for bigotry", was not enough and called for his sacking.

Unite Union national director Mike Treen said he did not call for someone's dismissal lightly.

"However Paul Henry legitimises racism and bigotry in the workplace. I deal every day with problems associated with managers and even co-workers abusing staff because they look or sound different."

Unite and Global Peace and Justice Auckland (GPJA) joined a protest outside TVNZ's Auckland offices last night.

"It is a case of ‘three strikes and you're out’," said GPJA spokesman John Minto.

"Paul Henry is a serial offender. He has abused women, people of colour, gay people, people with disabilities and all migrant Kiwis who don't look like him."

Sir Anand, in Delhi for the Commonwealth Games, said he had not received a personal apology.

"I haven't seen his apology. I've seen news reports that he has [apologised]. If he has, that's fine."

He said when he heard of the comments he only had one reaction.

"I am a New Zealand-born New Zealander. I am reliably informed I was born in 37 Dryden Street, Grey Lynn at the Bethany."

"That's all I need to add to the chemistry."

Mr Ellis said he would deliver a personal apology to Sir Anand on his return from the games.

Henry is due back on air on October 18. He was to have fronted This is Your Life on Sunday, but has been replaced by Paul Holmes.

Rawdon Christie will front Breakfast for the rest of this week, and Greg Boyed will host the show next week.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10678469 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10678469)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 06, 2010, 02:56:03 pm

Paul Henry ‘needs counselling’

By MARTIN KAY - The Dominion Post | 8:58AM - Wednesday, 06 October 2010

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A STEP TOO FAR: Protesters wearing Paul Henry masks make their feelings known outside TVNZ's offices in Lambton Quay.
 — ROSS GIBLIN/The Dominion Post.


TELEVISION NEW ZEALAND's suspension of Breakfast host Paul Henry is a "token" punishment and he needs counselling, the Fijian-Indian community says.

Henry's ethnic slur against Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand will cost him at least $8000 after he was suspended without pay for two weeks.

President of the Fijian-Indian Association in Wellington, Vinod Kumar, told Radio New Zealand that Henry was a repeat offender and the community was worried about what offence he would cause next.

Mr Kumar wanted Henry to undergo counselling, or be put on notice by TVNZ to avoid further incidents.

"The punishment that has been handed down does not fit the crime," he told Radio New Zealand.

"Is there going to be any form of reprimand? Is he going to be put on notice? Is there any form of counselling that his employers need him to undertake so that, seeing that he is a repeat offender of this nature, will not be repeated?"

After more than a day of appearing to back Henry's suggestion that the Auckland-born-and-raised Sir Anand did not look or sound like a New Zealander, TVNZ drew a line in the sand as more than 600 complaints flooded in.

Chief executive Rick Ellis said Henry — who apologised to Sir Anand in a statement on Monday and again on Breakfast yesterday — had crossed the line of acceptability and would be suspended until October 18.

"I have met with Paul and told him that, while his apologies were the right thing to do and that I believe he is sincere in his regret, I still consider his remarks unacceptable for any employee of TVNZ to make.

"He often pushes the boundaries and that's important in a country that values freedom of speech. But I consider his latest remarks to have well and truly crossed that line."


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Henry yesterday lost his cool at New Zealand Herald journalists who approached him at his North Shore home.

Minutes after declining to talk, he drove to where the journalists were parked in their car and verbally abused them.

"Get off my f--king land," he yelled. "If any photos are published I'll sue the f--king paper."

Industry observers said Henry was likely to be one of 11 TVNZ staff paid more than $300,000 a year, meaning the two-week suspension without pay would cost him at least $8000 from his annual after-tax salary.

A TVNZ spokeswoman said extra staff could be assigned to deal with the flood of complaints about Henry's comments, which were made during his regular weekly interview with Prime Minister John Key on Monday.

Henry asked Mr Key whether the next governor-general would be someone who "looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time", an apparent reference to Sir Anand's Fiji-Indian heritage.

The number of complaints is thought to be the highest received by TVNZ on a single matter. A noisy protest was held outside TVNZ's Auckland headquarters last night and a smaller band of protesters gathered outside the network's Wellington offices in Lambton Quay.

Mr Ellis' actions yesterday were in contrast to TVNZ's reaction on Monday, when it said Henry was known for saying things that everyone thought but was too scared to say.

A spokeswoman said there had been no pressure from Breakfast advertisers for Henry to be disciplined, and Henry had not been ordered to apologise.

Mr Key said it had been up to TVNZ to decide whether to discipline Henry, and the suspension was the correct course.

"They've sent a message ... they expect Paul Henry to be controversial, but there's obviously a line, and he's over that line."

Green Party human rights spokesman Keith Locke said Henry's on-air apology did not go far enough as it did not recognise the offence caused to hundreds of thousands of Kiwis who were not Maori or European.


______________________________________

Paul Henry's Full Statement

I have something very important to say this morning.

Yesterday, a lot of people got very upset about a comment that I made regarding the governor-general when I was talking with the prime minister. You may have seen it.

I'd like you all to know that I have the greatest respect for Sir Anand Satyanand. I don't know him personally, but I understand his reputation is beyond reproach. He is highly respected in both judicial circles as a former judge and as the Queen's representative here in New Zealand. He's done a very fine job as governor-general and I am sincerely sorry if I seemed disrespectful to him.

That was not what I intended and I certainly didn't intend to sound racist. It was wrong of me to ask the questions that I did.

Sir Anand was born in New Zealand. His lineage, as far as I can ascertain, is far more dignified than mine, which makes him a better candidate for governor-general than me.

Most people think I'm British, but the truth is much, much worse than that.

Like the governor-general, I was born in New Zealand. However, I'm at least half what they colloquially call in Europe a gippo.

So, let me make it quite clear. I will never apologise for causing outrage. However, I will and do apologise sincerely for causing real hurt and upset to anyone, no matter what their background, who works to make this country a better country.

So in that spirit, I apologise unreservedly to Sir Anand and his family. He's a very distinguished man. I am a gippo television presenter.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/local/4202097/Paul-Henry-needs-counselling (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/local/4202097/Paul-Henry-needs-counselling)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 06, 2010, 03:02:03 pm
Quote
Green Party human rights spokesman Keith Locke said Henry's on-air apology did not go far enough as it did not recognise the offence caused to hundreds of thousands of Kiwis who were not Maori or European.
This is turning into a huge  display of lunacy. 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 06, 2010, 03:18:49 pm
I wonder if all those on the picket line in the last few days have jobs to go to or do we tax payers fund them?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 06, 2010, 03:44:20 pm
Quote
Green Party human rights spokesman Keith Locke said Henry's on-air apology did not go far enough as it did not recognise the offence caused to hundreds of thousands of Kiwis who were not Maori or European.
This is turning into a huge  display of lunacy. 

Does anyone ever pay any attention to Locke?
He's one of those who get paid appearance money, just for turning up a few days a week.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 06, 2010, 03:49:22 pm
I wonder if all those on the picket line in the last few days have jobs to go to or do we tax payers fund them?


REAL workers are Shift Workers, not namby-pamby eight-to-five layabouts & bludgers.

And Shift Workers often work through weekends when the eight-to-five layabouts & bludgers are doing their lazy bludging thing, with the result that those REAL workers have their days off during the week and can go on weekday protests.

Comprendé?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 06, 2010, 04:09:50 pm

Dikshit giggles: New Henry drama

By MARTIN KAY - Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz) | 1:47PM - Wednesday, 06 October 2010

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UNCONTROLLABLE LAUGHTER: Paul Henry and, inset, Sheila Dikshit.

TVNZ has come in for fresh criticism over its handling of Breakfast host Paul Henry's Indian slurs after it continued to prominently feature a clip on its website in which he ridicules the name of Commonwealth Games troubleshooter Sheila Dikshit.

 • Click here (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4203109/Dikshit-giggles-New-Henry-drama#graphic) to see an interactive timeline of Paul Henry's controversial comments.

TVNZ has received at least four complaints about the clip, in which Henry deliberately mispronounces Dikshit, despite being told it is said 'Dixit". He also says the name "Dick Shit" is "so appropriate" because she is Indian.

Sheila Dikshit is Delhi's chief minister and was called in to fix the problem-plagued Commonwealth Games preparations.

New Zealand Indian Central Association president Paul Singh Bains said the fact TVNZ was still promoting the clip on its website showed it had "totally lost the plot" and was insensitive to the offence Henry had caused.

He said that had been worsened by subsequent comments in which Henry said Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand did not look or sound like a New Zealander.

The Dikshit clip was promoted on the Video Extras section of TVNZ's website under the heading "Paul Henry laughs about the name Dikshit".

It appears to have been removed within about an hour of Stuff reporting its continued presence had upset members of the Indian community.

In it, Henry deliberately mispronounces Mrs Dikshit's name, despite being told at the outset that it is pronounced "Dixit".

"The dip shit woman. God, what's her name? Dick Shit. Is it Dick Shit ... it looks like ‘Dick Shit’," Henry says through bouts of laughter.

"It's so appropriate, because she's Indian, so she'd be dick-in-shit wouldn't she, do you know what I mean? Walking along the street ... it's just so funny."

Mr Bains said he accepted that Mrs Dikshit's name and other Indian names could be difficult to pronounce, but Henry had moved beyond that to ridicule.

He said TVNZ appeared insensitive to the offence caused by leaving the clip on its website, and it should have sacked Henry from the Breakfast role after his comments about Sir Anand.

"TVNZ have lost the plot. I honestly think the credibility of TVNZ is down the tubes through this."

"He should be sanctioned more than that. He should be eliminated from that spot. He should be sacked and given another role somewhere else."

"He has an attitude about Indians and all other ethnicities for that matter. If we sound different, if we look different, he thinks there's no place for us in New Zealand."

TVNZ spokeswoman Andi Brotherston said the website was an independent news organisation.

"[It] is part of TVNZ's news and current affairs department, which has its editorial independence enshrined in legislation."

She would not say whether TVNZ chief executive Rick Ellis, who suspended Henry from his Breakfast role and is TVNZ's editor-in-chief, had control over the content on the website.

Greens human rights spokesman Keith Locke said the clip, first aired last Friday, was a "particularly graphic illustration of Paul Henry's cultural insensitivity".

"He went on and on being offensive to the chief minister of Delhi by mispronouncing her name in a crude manner."

"The latest incident with the Governor-General shows that he has learnt nothing past criticism of his racist commentary. Ten days in the sin bin is unlikely to change that, so perhaps he should be given a red card."

The Herald on Sunday reported this week that TVNZ had received four complaints about the Dikshit piece.

It has received more than 600 about Henry's comments about Sir Anand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QVzKihKiYI&hl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QVzKihKiYI&hl)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4203109/Dikshit-giggles-New-Henry-drama (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4203109/Dikshit-giggles-New-Henry-drama)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: akadaka on October 06, 2010, 05:36:12 pm
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Back-Paul-Henry-NOW/123680317686085

there ya go folks,just look at the support ;D

as for the pickett line.......minto,locke and ma ma matt mccarten....just the usual fuckwits who took it on themselves to write all over tv ones building with dickhead graffitti!!!
We all got together at work and called the arse of tv one telling them no more viewing till henry's back and then made a point before we turned off to see who was advertising then calling the companies and telling them we will nor buy or use the products till henry is back ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 06, 2010, 05:47:37 pm

You know, if I was a betting person, I'd give odds of about 50-50 for Henry ever fronting Breakfast again.

I reckon the political heat TVNZ is copping may even cause them to shift Henry sideways, or else get their lawyers to go through his employment contract with a fine-tooth-comb to see if they can get rid of him altogether.

I'd say their advertisers are probably also giving them shit about the whole affair.

And....I wouldn't mind betting John Key is now freaking out behind the scenes and is probably secretly putting pressure on TVNZ to do something (anything) to get rid of the heat but to ensure that his name (Key's) is kept out of it.

I guess we'll know one way or the other within a couple of weeks.





BTW....notice how Henry got all tetchy and started yelling the F-word at NZ Herald reporters who went to his place to try and talk to him about the affair. Strange how news media people tend to lose the plot when all of a sudden they end up on the receiving end of the news media instead of dishing it out to other people like they usually do. Then it suddenly becomes “do as I say, not as I do!” Michael Laws is another classic example of that particular syndrome.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 06, 2010, 05:50:14 pm
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The Herald on Sunday reported this week that TVNZ had received four complaints about the Dikshit piece.
FOUR complaints ??  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/undecided.gif) FFS ::)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: akadaka on October 06, 2010, 06:00:06 pm
Strange how news media people tend to lose the plot when all of a sudden they end up on the receiving end of the news media instead of dishing it out to other people like they usually do.


too true they all do it.....mau, hoskin,holmes,hawksby etc.They love the limelight,take very good money and bath in public adoration.....but only when it suits them or they turn into pittballs ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 06, 2010, 06:50:32 pm
I wonder if all those on the picket line in the last few days have jobs to go to or do we tax payers fund them?


REAL workers are Shift Workers, not namby-pamby eight-to-five layabouts & bludgers.

And Shift Workers often work through weekends when the eight-to-five layabouts & bludgers are doing their lazy bludging thing, with the result that those REAL workers have their days off during the week and can go on weekday protests.

Comprendé?

Hows the weather on Planet KTJ? When is your next visit to Planet Earth?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: dragontamer on October 07, 2010, 09:15:20 am
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The Herald on Sunday reported this week that TVNZ had received four complaints about the Dikshit piece.
FOUR complaints ??  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/undecided.gif) FFS ::)


A TVNZ spokeswoman, Megan Richards, said she did not know if any of the more than 200 formal complaints lodged with TVNZ this week had come from staff members.

I think that may be to do the the GG palaver.

He seems to need a good dose of 'Grow-the-fuck-up'.

The only other person I can think of who continues to dig a pit when deeply in the shit is a 12 year old ADHD (possibly FAS) kid.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 09:29:05 am
I think I'll just wait until the scent of blood in the water dissapates.....


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 07, 2010, 09:30:29 am
I have often wondered if he is ADHD.   I think his comments about Sheila Dikshit   http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4203109/Dikshit-giggles-New-Henry-drama  were completely OTT and unnecessary and outweighed his attempt at silliness over the GG.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: donquixotenz on October 07, 2010, 09:56:02 am
I like Paul his off the wall sense of humour is what makes that show .
His uncanny ability to pick up and characterise what most of us think and affraid to say publicaly is uncanny and that combined with his brilliant comments is what keeps me comming back for more.
 If he was not there then I would not watch as the rest of the fillins are limp dicks compared to him.
Good on yer paul ,stuff em all, and keep pissing off the establishment, and the voiceriferous narrow minded puranitical minorities who have voice way beyond thier levels of competence and absolutely no sense of humour.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 10:03:40 am
I like Paul his off the wall sense of humour is what makes that show .
His uncanny ability to pick up and characterise what most of us think and affraid to say publicaly is uncanny and that combined with his brilliant comments is what keeps me comming back for more.
 If he was not there then I would not watch as the rest of the fillins are limp dicks compared to him.
Good on yer paul ,stuff em all, and keep pissing off the establishment, and the voiceriferous narrow minded puranitical minorities who have voice way beyond thier levels of competence and absolutely no sense of humour.

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 10:05:09 am
Does he have a site or account where one can leave messages of support?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 07, 2010, 10:35:02 am
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It would seem so Yak.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paul-Henry/46460838767?v=info (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paul-Henry/46460838767?v=info)


Incidently 53,262 People Like This so he isn't without support.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 11:07:40 am
Hmmmmm
I have a facebook account - rarely used and I dont really know what I'm doing with it.
How do I add a comment on PH's wall?
Cant see any reply box or anything marked "Write Here!"]


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: dragontamer on October 07, 2010, 11:17:59 am
I mostly like him too... but he needs to learn a simple truth.  Not everything that passes through your mind needs come out your mouth.

In fact, a good portion of the media and politicians could learn from that.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 07, 2010, 11:21:26 am
Hmmmmm
I have a facebook account - rarely used and I dont really know what I'm doing with it.
How do I add a comment on PH's wall?
Cant see any reply box or anything marked "Write Here!"]
Click on the LIKE button on his page...it will refresh and you can comment.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 12:11:02 pm

Editorial: TVNZ and its shock jock living in past

The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:29AM - Thursday, October 07, 2010

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It seems not to have occurred to Mr Henry
that this is a nation of immigrants.
 — Photo: Greg Bowker.


THE MOST TELLING aspect of Paul Henry's suggestion that the Governor-General who succeeded Sir Anand Satyanand should look and sound like a New Zealander lay in its immediate aftermath.

The TV presenter told a website he did not regret his comments, and if anybody took exception, it was because "some people are easily offended".

Television New Zealand, his employer, seemed equally bemused by the fuss. "The audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud," a spokeswoman said.

It is debatable which of the responses was the more deplorable. But both revealed a staggering lack of awareness of what Mr Henry had proposed to the Prime Minister on TVNZ's Breakfast show.

They appeared to believe any complaints required only the standard response delivered for Mr Henry's many previous insults. They could not distinguish between his comments about a Scottish singer and the implications of what he had asked John Key.

Further, both badly misread the reaction of the vast majority of New Zealanders, who recognised a boundary had been breached.

It was to be more than 24 hours before both the presenter and TVNZ came to acknowledge the extent of the blunder, culminating in the decision to suspend Mr Henry without pay until October 18. There was little option.

Apologies, especially those as inept as Mr Henry's, were never going to suffice. They failed to address the offence to Sir Anand, who was born here to parents who migrated from Fiji, and who has a distinguished record as a lawyer, judge, ombudsman and Governor-General.

That, according to Mr Henry, does not make him a New Zealander.

Nor did the apologies deal with the offence that could have been taken by the sons and daughters of every immigrant. It seems not to have occurred to Mr Henry that this is a nation of immigrants, and that, today, about a quarter of New Zealanders are born overseas.


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TVNZ ticked many of the right boxes in announcing the suspension. Mr Henry's remarks were inappropriate for anyone in the company, said the chief executive, Rick Ellis.

While the presenter had been given a lot of freedom with the Breakfast programme, with that freedom came responsibility, he added. But it did not comment on the wider issue of the state broadcaster employing a shock jock, who deliberately courts controversy in a bid to gain ratings for a flagship programme.

TVNZ's initial response suggested that little else mattered other than appealing to the lowest common denominator. Ratings were the driving force, even in a slot devoid of current affairs competition since TV3's withdrawal.

Doubtless, they would have been very good yesterday as people awaited Mr Henry's next move. Given all this, it is perhaps little wonder Maori Television has usurped the role of public broadcaster in many ways.

The Government's financial demands on TVNZ are a significant factor in its approach. It was, therefore, somewhat ironic that John Key was among the collateral damage. The Prime Minister seemed taken aback by Mr Henry's comments, and failed to deliver the swift rebuke that would surely have come from his predecessor. It pointed to a lack of agility and decisiveness in pressure situations.

Sir Anand Satyanand's appointment as Governor-General was widely applauded. It said much about New Zealand today and what it is to be a New Zealander.

Mr Henry seems to be wallowing in a long distant past. So is TVNZ, judging by its initial response. If there is a next time, the appropriate reaction will have to come quicker — and be more decisive.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10678426 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10678426)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 07, 2010, 12:16:13 pm
Quote
Editorial: TVNZ and its shock jock living in past
This article is an editorial...it is no more valid than any other opinion on this board.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 01:14:22 pm
Quote
Editorial: TVNZ and its shock jock living in past
This article is an editorial...it is no more valid than any other opinion on this board.
Cheers Magoo.

And the NZ Herald can safely be ignored.
It absolutely detests electronic media and will lose no opportunity to put the boot in wherever it sees an opportunity.

Incidently, I see yet another poll is running at 80% support for Henry!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 01:21:51 pm
Incidently, I see yet another poll is running at 80% support for Henry!


There's that 80% “lowest common demoninator” factor again.

That 80% would also select the option to pay no tax whatsoever if given the option.

That same 80% also no doubt think road rules are for other people to obey, but not for them.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 07, 2010, 01:34:17 pm
The Herald editorial is interesting for the fact that the paper is deeply conservative and more likely to support a National Party groupie.

You have to feel sorry for Paul. If I were he the next time Henry crawls on to the set I would walk out, go straight to management with an   ëither he goes, or I go" message.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 01:35:48 pm
Incidently, I see yet another poll is running at 80% support for Henry!


There's that 80% “lowest common demoninator” factor again.

That 80% would also select the option to pay no tax whatsoever if given the option.

That same 80% also no doubt think road rules are for other people to obey, but not for them.

Errrrr..... Yes? 
Your point?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 07, 2010, 01:37:31 pm
The Herald editorial is interesting for the fact that the paper is deeply conservative and more likely to support a National Party groupie.

You have to feel sorry for Paul. If I were he the next time Henry crawls on to the set I would walk out, go straight to management with an   ëither he goes, or I go" message.

If I was management I would say 'oh well you know where the door is.'


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 07, 2010, 03:11:36 pm
The Herald editorial is interesting for the fact that the paper is deeply conservative and more likely to support a National Party groupie.

You have to feel sorry for Paul. If I were he the next time Henry crawls on to the set I would walk out, go straight to management with an   ëither he goes, or I go" message.

If I was management I would say 'oh well you know where the door is.'

Add don't let it hit you where the good lord split you!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ares Abani on October 07, 2010, 04:32:40 pm
The Herald editorial is interesting for the fact that the paper is deeply conservative and more likely to support a National Party groupie.

You have to feel sorry for Paul. If I were he the next time Henry crawls on to the set I would walk out, go straight to management with an   ëither he goes, or I go" message.

If I was management I would say 'oh well you know where the door is.'

I think you are giving this nut to much credit it would probably go to the shitter instead of out of the building..lol


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 05:21:48 pm
Quote
Editorial: TVNZ and its shock jock living in past
This article is an editorial...it is no more valid than any other opinion on this board.
Cheers Magoo.

And the NZ Herald can safely be ignored.
It absolutely detests electronic media and will lose no opportunity to put the boot in wherever it sees an opportunity.

Incidently, I see yet another poll is running at 80% support for Henry!


Guess what?

I've taken a quick look at the online websites of most of NZ's daily newspapers this afternoon, and I discovered a total of thirteen editorials about Paul Henry. All were scathing about his racist behaviour except one....Hawke's Bay Today, and they did criticise him, but then sat on the fence. Mind you, considering that the same edition of Hawke's Bay Today has an article about Paul Henry swanning around Napier since he was suspended, I guess they are part of the shallow 80% lowest common demoninator who are star-struck with the idiot!

I think I might have to post links to all of those editorials sometime this evening so you can read them for yourself and see that The New Zealand Herald isn't out on a limb, but is instead publishing the same opinion as virtually every other newspaper (bar one) in the country that has offered an opinion on Paul Henry's latest bigotry.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: akadaka on October 07, 2010, 05:33:02 pm
stick this dude on the breakfast show till henry comes back ;D

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMostInappropriate#p/a/u/0/TZMrp_OheGg


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2010, 05:58:40 pm
Quote
Guess what?

I've taken a quick look at the online websites of most of NZ's daily newspapers this afternoon

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 07, 2010, 06:25:30 pm
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I think I might have to post links to all of those editorials sometime this evening
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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 07, 2010, 06:43:00 pm
All were scathing about his racist behaviour except one....Hawke's Bay Today, and they did criticise him, but then sat on the fence.

Dear god no!!! a newspaper that could possibly be non biased especialy toward a right winger, how dare they... how flippen well dare they.... string the bastards up!!! ::)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 08:26:52 pm

Editorial: Of waving the flag and ‘real’ Kiwis

The Nelson Mail | 1:00PM - Tuesday, 05 October 2010

ONE DIFFICULTY in considering broadcaster Paul Henry's latest outburst is whether to bother dignifying it with a response.

Television New Zealand's jumped-up motormouth is presumably charged with following a single imperative: to boost ratings. If that means appealing to redneck New Zealand, Henry's their man, and offensive clangers are simply par for the course and best ignored. However, his latest target is none other than the Queen's representative in New Zealand. His race-based reasoning, if that's what calculated, clamouring for attention passes as, can be applied to tens, hundreds, of thousands of New Zealanders — presumably, to any of our citizens who don't look just like Henry.

In putting the Prime Minister on the spot by first questioning whether Governor-General Anand Satyanand was a New Zealander, and then asking whether the next vice-regal appointment would look and sound more like a Kiwi, Henry no doubt felt he was being witty, cheeky, and perhaps a tad outrageous.

In fact, he was displaying an embarrassing ignorance for a supposed current affairs broadcaster. Sir Anand was born and raised in Auckland and has worked here as a distinguished lawyer, judge and ombudsman before being appointed as New Zealand's first Governor-General of Indian-Pacific ancestry. By contrast, Henry spent many of his formative years in England and worked for the BBC. He arguably sounds no more "like a Kiwi" than Sir Anand.

However, that is beside the point. Our current Governor-General has performed the role as well as any of his predecessors and better than many. His appointment is seen by some as a symbol of this country's growing recognition of its multi-cultural base — even if the position itself is representative of ties to a country and system whose influence on and relevance to this nation are waning.

Henry yesterday afternoon offered what he termed a sincere apology to the Governor-General for any offence he might have caused. This is barely credible and will be seen as simply an attempt at damage-control. More instructive was an immediate response earlier in the day from a TVNZ spokeswoman. "The audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud," she said. Is this really what New Zealanders are "quietly thinking" whenever someone with a brownish skin achieves high office? Maybe there is something in Maori Party maverick Hone Harawira's discontent after all.

The outburst came at a time when many were debating the decision to charge expat South African Irene van Dyk with carrying the New Zealand flag at the head of our Commonwealth Games team in Delhi. As simply a team-member of a non-traditional Games event — not even the captain — the lanky goal shoot's elevation was questionable. Compounding the controversy, she was not born here and had previously represented her home nation in netball. However, the appointment does suggest New Zealand is a country that welcomes immigrants prepared to contribute to and embrace their new home. That provides a healthy counter to Henry's racial rantings.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/opinion/4198467/Of-waving-the-flag-and-real-Kiwisf (http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/opinion/4198467/Of-waving-the-flag-and-real-Kiwis)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 08:28:08 pm

Well....that Nelson Mail editorial certainly hit the nail right on the head!


The editor of that newspaper is obviously an intelligent person who isn't part of the 80% lowest common demoninator.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 08:36:10 pm

How about this from the Taranaki Daily News?  (https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/azn.gif)



Editorial: Henry proves he's a turn-off

Taranaki Daily News | 5:00AM - Wednesday, 06 October 2010

LAST WEEK we asked what makes a New Zealander. This week, Paul Henry answered: it's anybody who looks and sounds like him.

And that is white, a little nerdy, possibly slightly ‘retarded’ and with the hint of a European accent. Everyone else doesn't qualify. Everyone else is not a genuine Kiwi and not part of his acceptable gated community.

It's a vision shared by many apparently genuine New Zealanders who see Henry as their paragon of non-political correctness, their king of common sense and talisman of the truth.

But the reality is somewhat different. The reality is that although mildly entertaining, Henry is a living monument to ignorance and snobby buffoonery. He is the preening, loud-mouthed assassin sent out by ‘ordinary Kiwis’ to communicate all those little truisms that we all supposedly think but dare not say.

It is, apparently, what we all love about him.

We are the sneering, sniggering mob and he is our proxy, sent in to take the slings and arrows that go with the poor-taste, all-knowing guffaws and racist pokes in the ribs that honour the bland, the beige and the homogenous by cruelly disparaging the diverse.

He's a highly paid bully with a pulpit, railing at the info-tainment edge of broadcasting that feeds the lowest common denominator by appealing to its mistrust of difference and diversity and its disdain for the truth.

He's the purveyor of that little insinuation that becomes true by the exponential multiplication of its retelling: Don't like United States President Barack Obama? Well, did you hear that he's not even American and is actually a Muslim with connections to al-Qaeda?

The most laughable aspect of the whole farce is that one could ask whether Henry is a real New Zealander. His skin tone may be the ‘acceptable’ hue but the accent is certainly not genuine. Maybe he picked that up during his eight years out of the country, eight years working in the United Kingdom. Eight years during which Sir Anad Satyanand was working as a lawyer in Auckland. Not very Kiwi, is it?

And as for that Pippa Wetzell — what kind of name is that? Sounds a little foreign, possibly even German. And you know what they're like, don't you?

It is fair and right that TVNZ has suspended Henry. We may have been able to tolerate his poor taste and bad manners in comments on Susan Boyle's features and another woman's facial hair, but attacking the heritage of the Governor-General by questioning his allegiance and ethnicity and casting aspersions on his claims to such high office rivals the cheeky pratfalls of broadcasting's other big Paul. Both transgressors are not particularly tall — we wonder if there's something in that?


http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/opinion/4201011/Henry-proves-hes-a-turn-off (http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/opinion/4201011/Henry-proves-hes-a-turn-off)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 08:47:37 pm

Editorial: Henry slur a sign of TVNZ's weakness

The Dominion Post | Wednesday, 06 October 2010

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THE RIGHTNESS of Paul Henry's suspension from TVNZ's Breakfast show is matched only by the wrongness of the state broadcaster's initial attempts to excuse his racially offensive remarks on Monday morning.

The corporation has forgotten what it means to be a public broadcaster.

Henry is not everyone's cup of tea. He is irritatingly smug and a playground bully who delights in picking on those weaker than himself.

But he is also a quirky, at times amusing, broadcaster who has helped to give his employer a huge advantage over its free-to-air rival TV3 at the start of the television day.

However, the commercial benefits of his shock-jock antics should not blind TVNZ to its responsibilities as a public broadcaster or even as a corporate citizen.

It was utterly wrong for Henry to belittle Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand during an interview with Prime Minister John Key because he did not "look and sound" like a New Zealander.

The New Zealand-born and educated Sir Anand is big and savvy enough to look after himself. However, Henry's remarks were a slur not just on the governor-general but on every New Zealander who does not share his skin colour.

Curiously, Henry appears to have recognised that before his employer did. He issued an inadequate apology "for any offence I might have caused" on Monday afternoon and a full, comprehensive, on-air apology yesterday morning.

Meantime, TVNZ was still trying to pass off his remarks as an inconsequential jape. "The audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud," a company spokeswoman said.

Presumably TVNZ would use the same logic to defend President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitic rants were it operating in Iran.

It was not until more than 24 hours after the event that the company realised it had misread the public, or political, winds, suspended Henry without pay, and issued an apology that included an undertaking from chief executive Rick Ellis to personally apologise to the governor-general.

There is no disputing Henry's right to vent his prejudices. In fact, enabling him to do so serves a useful purpose.

One of the virtues of free speech is that it exposes to public scrutiny the dark corners in the minds of those who seek to influence others.

"Let her [truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter," wrote poet John Milton in 1644.

However, a publicly owned broadcaster should not seek to profit from cheap shots that marginalise minority groups.

TVNZ's belated recognition of the untenability of its position is yet another reason for the Government to consider the broadcaster's future. With its puerile news service and near-constant diet of reality shows and foreign programmes, TVNZ is indistinguishable from its private-sector rivals. It should be sold to the highest bidder.

The public service component of broadcasting can be preserved through NZ On Air funding of specific programmes.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/editorials/4200549/Editorial-Henry-slur-a-sign-of-TVNZs-weakness (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/editorials/4200549/Editorial-Henry-slur-a-sign-of-TVNZs-weakness)



Editorial: Why did TVNZ tarry?

The Timaru Herald | 5:00AM - Wednesday, 06 October 2010

THE SUSPENSION without pay of Breakfast host Paul Henry by TVNZ was something the state broadcaster could scarcely avoid after his inappropriate comments about Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand.

Chief executive Rick Ellis, announcing the two-week suspension yesterday, said that Henry, known for his controversial comments on the show, had "well and truly" crossed the line when he asked Prime Minister John Key about the appointment of the next Governor-General.

"Are you going to choose a New Zealander who looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time?" he said to a surprised Mr Key, who later said the comments were "... plain wrong".

The suspension of the so-called "shock jock" was clearly the right thing to do. What was interesting about it, though, was that it didn't happen until yesterday, when the comments had been made early on Monday morning. By the time it was announced by Mr Ellis, a story had already been published by Fairfax saying that TVNZ had come under attack for failing to condemn Henry's comments.

Indeed, TVNZ had initially backed Henry on Monday. A spokesperson said he was known for saying what people "quietly think but are scared to say out loud". What people would those be then, given that this country is a multicultural melting pot?

The sequence of events leading up to his suspension helps create the impression that, until it became clear to executives just how strong the negative response to Henry's comments was, the broadcaster had hoped that, as with previous Henry indiscretions, it would be able to ride this one out. Otherwise the suspension would surely have been in place "by lunchtime" on Monday.

Talking about Henry yesterday, Mr Ellis said: "He often pushes the boundaries and that's important in a country that values freedom of speech."

In other words, until he went too far, Henry had been pushing the boundaries with the full encouragement of TVNZ, because the controversy he creates pulls viewers.

What's most concerning about this whole affair is that TVNZ initially backed Henry on the basis that, to paraphrase, "he's the man who says what we all secretly think".

If that was truly the case, we'd have real cause for concern about the future of New Zealand. If we all went around thinking things like "Wow, look at the moustache on that Greenpeace woman!" or "Gee, you can see Susan Boyle's retarded if you look closely enough" or "he shouldn't be the Governor-General; he doesn't even look like a real Kiwi" we'd be nothing more than a nation of playground bullies intolerant of anyone different. And surely the vast majority of us don't want that.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/opinion/4200949/Editorial-Why-did-TVNZ-tarry (http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/opinion/4200949/Editorial-Why-did-TVNZ-tarry)



Editorial: Live by the word, die by the word

The Southland Times | 5:00AM - Wednesday, 06 September 2010

HE WHO lives by the word shall die by the word, and while TVNZ Breakfast host Paul Henry is technically still alive and kicking, his bosses have placed him in suspended animation for a fortnight. Will they flick the switch to revive him at the end of that time?

Or is that time finally up?

Henry has carefully crafted his "shock jock" image through a series of choreographed controversies, most notably suggesting that singer Susan Boyle looked "retarded" and that a woman guest on the show was in need of a shave. He may even have taken his recent People's Choice win at the Qantas Film and TV Awards as a green light from the viewing public to push even further into the outrageous.

But he's done it this time.

There is no wriggle room in his patently racist observation that our Governor-General, Anand Satyanand, does not look like a New Zealander.

And his belated apology to the Governor-General completely misses the point that his comment would have stung every New Zealander who doesn't look like ... who exactly? White and balding like Henry, and with crooked teeth? Is that our benchmark?

If so, we haven't had one of those since Sir David Beattie in the 1980s.

The real beef isn't with Henry, of course, who is only performing as he has been primed to do. In its ratings-driven race to the bottom of the market, TVNZ — our State broadcaster, remember — has reached for the "shock jock" tactics deployed in the country of their birth, the United States, by usually the most marginal and therefore irrelevant broadcasting outlets.

TVNZ's initial response to the hubbub over Henry's latest clanger was to back him, saying he was known for saying what people "quietly think but are scared to say out loud".

A day later, that backing had withered in the heat of public outrage and Henry was suspended.

Clearly, TVNZ is more upset about the outcry than it is about the comment.

The mystery in all this is how TVNZ is coming to represent both the best and worst of television at the same time.

Digital channel TVNZ7, accessible through Freeview and Sky, has in its 8pm news a programme that is best described as Morning Report on TV — an hour of interviews and items each significantly longer and more in-depth than anything on TV One or TV3 at 6pm.

And no ads to boot.

But back to Henry — should TVNZ bring him back at the end of his time in the wilderness?

The dilemma for TVNZ boss Rick Ellis is this: if he brings Henry back and he offends again, both are likely to get the chop; if Ellis brings him back but with a "final warning" hanging over his head, will a muzzled Henry prove to have little to offer if outrage is off the menu? Either way, blood flows.

Difficult choices.

One thing's for sure — Close Up host Mark Sainsbury can relax and stop looking over his shoulder.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/opinion/4204989/Editorial-Live-by-the-word-die-by-the-word (http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/opinion/4204989/Editorial-Live-by-the-word-die-by-the-word)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 09:00:10 pm

Editorial comment: What does it take to be a real Kiwi?

By Assitant Editor SIMON CUNLIFFE - Otago Daily Times | Wednesday, 06 October 2010

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SUBJECT A WAS BORN in Auckland in 1944.

He attended Richmond Road School in Ponsonby, and Sacred Heart College in Glen Innes.

He graduated from Auckland University with a bachelor of laws degree in 1970 and worked at the Crown Solicitor's Office in Auckland, before being appointed a District Court judge in 1982.

He sat in Palmerston North, then various Auckland courts, before being appointed a Parliamentary Ombudsman in 1994, serving two five-year terms, before being elevated to one of the country's highest offices in 2006.

He was made a distinguished companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit in 2006 and subsequently redesignated a Knight Grand Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit — "Sir" to you and me.


SUBJECT B WAS ALSO BORN in Auckland, in 1960.

In 1971, at the age of 11, he moved with his mother to Bristol, in the United Kingdom, where he completed his education and won a drama school scholarship.

He began a career in broadcasting working for the BBC before eventually returning to New Zealand.

He was employed by a number of radio stations before setting up his own in 1991.

He moved on to numerous other roles on Radio Pacific and Radio Live and ran unsuccessfully as a National Party candidate in the Wairarapa electorate, won by transsexual Labour MP Georgina Beyer.

He now hosts a high-profile national breakfast television show and has won notoriety for several incidents in which he has belittled public figures.


ON THE ABOVE evidence — admittedly not complete — which of our subjects is more entitled to consider himself a real "New Zealander"? Neither, is the correct answer, for they are both equally entitled to call themselves Kiwis.

But if one had to choose, if one had to weigh up competing claims, it might be thought Subject A could have the edge.

On what basis?

Longevity, for starters: he's lived here longer.

Uninterrupted residence? Public service? Contribution to society?

It's an academic exercise, but not according to Subject B, who this week clearly insinuated in the presence of the Prime Minister, John Key, that Subject A's credentials as a New Zealander were questionable.


ON MONDAY MORNING, on state broadcaster TV One's Breakfast programme, host Paul Henry Hopes, more commonly known as Paul Henry, asked Mr Key of Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand, "Is he even a New Zealander?"

Mr Henry, revealing the underlying thrust of his question, continued: "Are you going to choose a New Zealander [as Governor-General] who looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time ... Are we going to go for someone who is more like a New Zealander this time?"

For Paul Henry, the colour of Sir Anand Satyanand's skin, his ethnicity and voice inflections, single him out as not a real New Zealander.

It is hard to describe this as anything other than racism.

And into this matey, blokes-like-us conspiracy of insinuation, Mr Henry invited Mr Key.

Not normally short of a word, nor presence of mind, on the occasion Mr Key's deserted him and it was not until later in the day that he saw fit to contradict or condemn his erstwhile host.

Mr Henry subsequently issued the standard meaningless and unfelt apology for any "offence caused", then again, as the fallout began to settle in, more sincerely — apparently.

Belatedly, yesterday, a day after the event and having at first tried to defend its broadcaster's actions, TVNZ suspended Mr Henry without pay until October 18 — a period of a little less than two weeks.

Mr Henry has many skills as a broadcaster.

He is intelligent, sharp, with a distinctive and playful wit.

He is, for instance, especially good at shafting the shibboleths of humourless political correctness: that which should not be spoken, he takes a certain pride in speaking.

That is fine, as far as it goes, welcome even, and refreshing.

But Mr Henry would also enlist us all — using as his platform the offices of the "public broadcaster", TV One — into his particular world view, political, cultural, social.

Beneath the jokey mien runs a vein of mean-spirited prejudice: whether it is facial hair on female studio guests, the "retarded" appearance of Susan Boyle, the unnaturalness of homosexuals, or expressing the view that to be a real New Zealander you have to be white-skinned, like himself and Mr Key, and talk just like it.

Behind it all seems to be the idea that "difference" is to be singled out and mocked.

And after the mockery ..? What then?

The calumnies of history tell us that is a dangerous path to traverse.

Initially, a TVNZ spokesman defended Mr Henry on the basis the audience consistently says they like the host precisely because "he's prepared to say things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud".

This is as indefensible as Mr Henry's original remarks.

First, that the public broadcaster apparently sees fit to ascribe to all New Zealanders complicity in Mr Henry's racist sentiments is insulting and offensive; second, it shows yet again that ultimately TV One aspires to no higher standards than those of a ratings-craving populism — a brand of broadcasting inexorably bound for the gutter.


http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/opinion/130031/what-does-it-take-be-real-kiwi (http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/opinion/130031/what-does-it-take-be-real-kiwi)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 07, 2010, 09:07:38 pm
The Herald editorial is interesting for the fact that the paper is deeply conservative and more likely to support a National Party groupie.

You have to feel sorry for Paul. If I were he the next time Henry crawls on to the set I would walk out, go straight to management with an   ëither he goes, or I go" message.

If I was management I would say 'oh well you know where the door is.'

Bad move. That would give Williams a cast iron case for constructive dismissal. You've just cost TVNZ a six-figure settlement. Time to resign, I think.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 09:07:43 pm

Editorial: Henry jibe off the mark

Waikato Times | 12 NOON - Wednesday, 06 October 2010

IN HIS OWN cheeky way, Paul Henry cut to the chase and asked an existential question for our times: who or what is a New Zealander?

It's just a shame he was racist about it.

Like Don Brash with his Orewa speech, Henry lifted the lid on something that remains central in the New Zealand psyche — or at least in the white part of our psyche. Not that he thought he was racist and that is probably the point. So chummy was he with the prime minister on his Monday Breakfast show, and so secure is he in his position as the people's choice of broadcaster, that he simply didn't pause to think, stopping himself only with a flippant comment that he might one day want to be considered for governor-general himself.

He had already twice queried Sir Anand Satyanand's fitness for the post after being told by John Key that Sir Anand was, in fact, a New Zealander born and bred.

With his final tilt at the subject, Henry asked: "Are we going to go for someone who's more like a New Zealander this time though?"

No-one needed to ask what he meant by that, and no-one in the studio did. Henry thinks someone with an Indian name and complexion isn't a New Zealander.

That's regardless of whether they were born here or not. In doing so, he is reflecting a racist streak in our makeup. Once it was even legislated for, as Chinese immigrants faced legalised discrimination.

Now it's merely embedded.

And that was good enough for his employers, with TVNZ defending him by saying in a statement: "The audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud."

There's no doubt Henry is an engaging and quick-witted broadcaster. That he goes where few others would dare is hardly a criticism in itself.

His success is its own validation.

But TVNZ's statement on this occasion begged the question of who "we" are.

It's hard to imagine many Indian New Zealanders cheering Henry on. It's hard to imagine many other immigrant groups cheering him on either.

TVNZ is now scrambling to cover itself by suspending Henry, but the damage has largely been done.

To get back to Henry's question. Who or what is a New Zealander?

Let's start by accepting we come from all corners.

And it's not just that anyone is entitled to come from anywhere, it's that in settling here they become New Zealanders. More than that, they influence the quality of New Zealandness.

Some people may not like that but it's true.

We're rapidly becoming a much browner society, as the population of Asian and Pacific Island descent increases. Henry should wake up.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/opinion/editorials/4202010/Henry-jibe-off-the-mark (http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/opinion/editorials/4202010/Henry-jibe-off-the-mark)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 09:20:04 pm

Editorial: Maverick Henry in need of muzzle

Bay of Plenty Times | Wednesday, 06 October 2010

WHAT IS to be done about maverick TVNZ host Paul Henry?

The television presenter has regularly found himself in trouble, after infamously describing homosexuality as "unnatural", ridiculing a female guest on Breakfast for having a "moustache" and labelling singer Susan Boyle as retarded.

In recent times, he mocked the pronunciation of Delhi chief minister Sheila Dikshit's surname.

But it's his comments live on television on Monday morning, while talking to Prime Minister John Key, that have finally seen the broadcaster cross the line.

Henry has been suspended for two weeks without pay after questioning whether Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand looked and sounded "like a real New Zealander".

The comments baffled Mr Key and have been met with outrage across New Zealand, with politicians quick to condemn Henry and a protest held outside TVNZ's Auckland headquarters yesterday afternoon.

The suspension is a good move by TVNZ, but given the nature of the comments made by its errant host, coupled with his past history, the company did not really have any other option. To have done nothing would have effectively acted as an endorsement of his views and for a state broadcaster, that is simply not good enough.

There will be some who claim suspension is not enough and who want Henry fired.

Those same people will claim TVNZ is only keeping Henry because his on-screen antics generate higher viewership.

It's likely there's a good amount of truth to this.

Henry is renowned for offending people — TVNZ spokesperson Andi Brotherston said the network had been told people loved Henry because he was "prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud".

Most people make off-colour comments from time to time.

However, they are not on national television every morning.

Henry's actions in abusing media yesterday, after being suspended from his job, reek of hypocrisy.

Henry seemingly believes he can say whatever he wants from his privileged role in the media, but when that same media asks questions of him, he responds with profanity and legal threats.

Nevertheless, there is still a lot to like about Paul Henry.

Putting his gaffes to one side, he is a free spirit and his honesty and willingness to say exactly what he is thinking can be refreshing in the often-staid world of New Zealand television.

TVNZ and Henry need to come to some sort of compromise — Henry needs to be able to keep expressing the personality that has made him so popular with many television viewers, but he also needs to be reined in so that he amuses, rather than offends.


http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/local/news/our-view-maverick-henry-in-need-of-muzzle/3925294 (http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/local/news/our-view-maverick-henry-in-need-of-muzzle/3925294)



Editorial: TVNZ loves its Breakfast supermouth

Hawke's Bay Today | Wednesday, 06 October 2010

HAS PAUL HENRY gone too far this time?

I doubt it. TVNZ loves its shoot-from-the-lip presenter.

The State broadcaster could hardly be accused of getting on the front foot of the debate over Henry's latest comments with its two-week suspension of him yesterday.

Interviewing Prime Minister John Key, Henry asked if Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was "even a New Zealander" and urged the PM to choose someone who "looks and sounds more like a New Zealander this time". More than 600 complaints flooded TVNZ.

Henry's comments were condemned by the Race Relations Commissioner, and rightly so.

Not everyone was offended but that's probably because many think Paul Henry is paid to be a controversial clown — barely a month goes by in which he doesn't utter some nonsense about shooting Moko, or that's a lady with a moustache. TVNZ thinks it's fabulous.

Henry's hard to take seriously. But you might not feel the same if you were a new New Zealander, particularly one of Indian extraction, watching the State broadcaster standing behind its Breakfast show host as he insults an ethnic New Zealander who has contributed more to the country than many Kiwis ever will.

At least Henry had the good sense to apologise.

His employer's first reaction was to defend its Breakfast rogue by saying Henry only says what people "quietly think but are scared to say out loud".

But the jungle drums were beating for Henry yesterday and by lunchtime it was announced that he would be stood down from his job for two weeks.

A street poll conducted by Hawke's Bay Today showed most people thought Henry should not lose his job so perhaps the outcome is the right one. Question is: Will he use his time at home to reflect on his errant mouth or to practise more mad lines in the mirror?


http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/local/news/editorial-tvnz-loves-its-breakfast-supermouth/3925400 (http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/local/news/editorial-tvnz-loves-its-breakfast-supermouth/3925400)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 09:20:34 pm

Editorial: TVNZ and its shock jock living in past

The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:29AM - Thursday, October 07, 2010

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It seems not to have occurred to Mr Henry
that this is a nation of immigrants.
 — Photo: Greg Bowker.


THE MOST TELLING aspect of Paul Henry's suggestion that the Governor-General who succeeded Sir Anand Satyanand should look and sound like a New Zealander lay in its immediate aftermath.

The TV presenter told a website he did not regret his comments, and if anybody took exception, it was because "some people are easily offended".

Television New Zealand, his employer, seemed equally bemused by the fuss. "The audience tell us over and over again that one of the things they love about Paul Henry is that he's prepared to say the things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud," a spokeswoman said.

It is debatable which of the responses was the more deplorable. But both revealed a staggering lack of awareness of what Mr Henry had proposed to the Prime Minister on TVNZ's Breakfast show.

They appeared to believe any complaints required only the standard response delivered for Mr Henry's many previous insults. They could not distinguish between his comments about a Scottish singer and the implications of what he had asked John Key.

Further, both badly misread the reaction of the vast majority of New Zealanders, who recognised a boundary had been breached.

It was to be more than 24 hours before both the presenter and TVNZ came to acknowledge the extent of the blunder, culminating in the decision to suspend Mr Henry without pay until October 18. There was little option.

Apologies, especially those as inept as Mr Henry's, were never going to suffice. They failed to address the offence to Sir Anand, who was born here to parents who migrated from Fiji, and who has a distinguished record as a lawyer, judge, ombudsman and Governor-General.

That, according to Mr Henry, does not make him a New Zealander.

Nor did the apologies deal with the offence that could have been taken by the sons and daughters of every immigrant. It seems not to have occurred to Mr Henry that this is a nation of immigrants, and that, today, about a quarter of New Zealanders are born overseas.


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TVNZ ticked many of the right boxes in announcing the suspension. Mr Henry's remarks were inappropriate for anyone in the company, said the chief executive, Rick Ellis.

While the presenter had been given a lot of freedom with the Breakfast programme, with that freedom came responsibility, he added. But it did not comment on the wider issue of the state broadcaster employing a shock jock, who deliberately courts controversy in a bid to gain ratings for a flagship programme.

TVNZ's initial response suggested that little else mattered other than appealing to the lowest common denominator. Ratings were the driving force, even in a slot devoid of current affairs competition since TV3's withdrawal.

Doubtless, they would have been very good yesterday as people awaited Mr Henry's next move. Given all this, it is perhaps little wonder Maori Television has usurped the role of public broadcaster in many ways.

The Government's financial demands on TVNZ are a significant factor in its approach. It was, therefore, somewhat ironic that John Key was among the collateral damage. The Prime Minister seemed taken aback by Mr Henry's comments, and failed to deliver the swift rebuke that would surely have come from his predecessor. It pointed to a lack of agility and decisiveness in pressure situations.

Sir Anand Satyanand's appointment as Governor-General was widely applauded. It said much about New Zealand today and what it is to be a New Zealander.

Mr Henry seems to be wallowing in a long distant past. So is TVNZ, judging by its initial response. If there is a next time, the appropriate reaction will have to come quicker — and be more decisive.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10678426 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10678426)



Editorial: Paul Henry had too much free rein

The Marlborough Express | 12:02PM - Thursday, 07 October 2010

LET'S GIVE YOU the benefit of the doubt, Paul Henry.

You have a top-rating television show. Thousands of people demonstrate their love by voting in your favour on newspaper websites.

You probably got a considerable pay rise this year to keep you from going to TV3. You are funny in an industry that hasn't had a decent comic since Fred Dagg or Billy T.

Your employer backs you every time "the nannas" get upset when you are unkind to Susan Boyle or women with moustaches.

No-one of any importance has ever told you ‘no’.

Your mum is still very proud of you.

All this contributes to someone who can happily ask if Governor-General Anand Satyanand is a New Zealander — and then ask if we can please have a real Kiwi next time round.

And these questions were asked of Prime Minister John Key.

The footage from the Breakfast programme on Monday when Paul Henry asked the question shows Mr Key presumably being either too polite or too taken aback to protest.

We can't really hold Paul Henry responsible for the views he has. He has every right to hold them. The predicament is that he can do so on national television through the medium of the state broadcaster.

Television New Zealand has helped create this problem by letting their man have his head because he is a ratings supremo. So it has to be TVNZ that takes much of the responsibility for employing someone whose opinions are racist.

And we should hold the broadcaster responsible for not reining in their star earlier, and certainly for spending 24 hours arguing Paul Henry's views are the kind many people hold in private but are too scared to say in public.

By now enough New Zealanders have told TVNZ head Rick Ellis that we don't think like this, and certainly don't want a kind of unspoken collective racism used as an excuse for their presenter's offensiveness.

If TVNZ genuinely thought questioning the governor-general's Kiwi-ness was acceptable then the state broadcaster really hasn't got a clue.

Part of the problem is New Zealand has been heading down this path for several years.

It has become OK to be cruel and unthinking. This is what gave TVNZ the chutzpah to defend the indefensible.

But Paul Henry is not a comedian or talk show host. He is the face of Television New Zealand and the presenter of one of their principal shows.

Perhaps we will learn in the next couple of weeks with Paul Henry gone that others can host the Breakfast show and be funny, entertaining and popular without being loathsome.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/opinion/4207089/Editorial-Paul-Henry-had-too-much-free-rein (http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/opinion/4207089/Editorial-Paul-Henry-had-too-much-free-rein)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 07, 2010, 09:22:42 pm

Well....there's a sample of what NZ's newspaper editorials are writing about Paul Henry.

There are a few more, but they virtually say the same as what is in the editorials I have posted.

No doubt, there will be a few more editorials on this topic published into tomorrow's newspapers.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 07, 2010, 09:37:35 pm
The Waikato Times can't even get its quotes right.

Henry didn't ask "who or what is a New Zealander?" He asked whether the Prime Minister was going to appoint "someone more like a New Zealander"

Since then he has deliberately mispronounced the name of an Indian official and suggested people got salmonella from tomatoes because they were picked by Hispanics.

How much longer can this racist, offensive piece of shit survive?

I see he has been dropped from an NZ version of This is Your Life. To be replaced by another racist, offensive piece of shit named Paul Holmes. Great call.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 08, 2010, 06:22:35 am

Well....there's a sample of what NZ's newspaper editorials are writing about Paul Henry.

There are a few more, but they virtually say the same as what is in the editorials I have posted.

No doubt, there will be a few more editorials on this topic published into tomorrow's newspapers.

Good God!  He wasnt kidding! (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/12emdgust.gif)

I have never had that much time on my hands myself.........
I never read long cut & pastes and have no intention of starting now. 

You just cant abide the fact that as has been demonstrated, the bulk of the NZ citizenry support Paul Henry, and think that the anal retentives bagging him should grow at least a notochord.  [a spine would probably be a big ask]


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 08, 2010, 06:37:35 am
Bluddy Nora.(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/2funny.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ballasted moth on October 08, 2010, 07:01:25 am
What a bizarre country NZ is getting in a froth about the host of a programme few watch yet we tolerate a racist party the Maori party and accept being regularly insulted by one of its MPs


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 08, 2010, 07:14:18 am
What a bizarre country NZ is getting in a froth about the host of a programme few watch yet we tolerate a racist party the Maori party and accept being regularly insulted by one of its MPs

You're back to front. 80% of the population support Henry however I'm sure 80% of the population detest Hawera


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 08, 2010, 07:19:50 am
 Hone Harawira gets a free pass when he calls us white motherfuckers, and that seemed a little less tongue in cheek that anything Paul Henry has ever said.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 08, 2010, 07:27:03 am

Aww sheesh, now we have copulating llamas instead!!!!!!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: donquixotenz on October 08, 2010, 08:09:55 am
Just shows what happens when a tall poppy tells the monopoly and syndicated news murderers to F/O
Viscious bstrds.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 08, 2010, 08:14:44 am
Hone Harawira gets a free pass when he calls us white motherfuckers, and that seemed a little less tongue in cheek that anything Paul Henry has ever said.

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 08, 2010, 09:53:38 am
Who says 80% of NZ'ers support Paul Henry  ?
There is plenty of frothing at the mouth by Paul Henry supporters from what I can see.
PH is a supposed to be TV host not a school boy who is having a giggle in the toilet block.




Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 08, 2010, 11:44:26 am
Hone Harawira gets a free pass when he calls us white motherfuckers, and that seemed a little less tongue in cheek that anything Paul Henry has ever said.


Ahh but that was totally different.... apparantly ::)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 08, 2010, 11:45:13 am
Hone Harawira gets a free pass when he calls us white motherfuckers, and that seemed a little less tongue in cheek that anything Paul Henry has ever said.

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he calls us white motherfuckers, and that seemed a little less tongue in cheek that anything Paul Henry has ever said.


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hone (AKA John Hatfield) gives us yet another definition of the acronym JAFA = Just Another Ferkin Activist


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Q:
Who laughs most and hardest at Paul Henry's jokes?


So you don't know? Scroll down for answer:












































PAUL HENRY





Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 08, 2010, 01:11:38 pm

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ssweetpea on October 08, 2010, 05:27:02 pm
It seems that Paul Henry's pronouciation of the name of Delhi's Cheif Minister, Shela Dikshit is causing international offence.

The problem is he pronounced as it is spelt.

Then burst out laughing and made fun of it.

A bit like our reaction to Australian Rove McManner's realisation of just what the correct pronouciation of whaka as in Whakapapa sounded like and wondering aloud on live TV just whether such a rude sounding word was permissable on NZ primetime TV.

Of course we highminded Kiwis know the difference between whaka and fucka even though they sound virtually the same.

Storm in a teacup? Probably. One just has to have a look in the phone book to find equally ridiculas looking names that are completely English in origin.

The issue of racism however is not so easily laid to rest.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on October 08, 2010, 06:11:19 pm




Paul Henry's Diky Ideas Have Got Him In A Heap Of Shit(https://cdn.smfboards.com/Smileys/smf/2funny.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 08, 2010, 06:48:23 pm
It seems that Paul Henry's pronouciation of the name of Delhi's Cheif Minister, Shela Dikshit is causing international offence.


One wonders just how much offence would be taken if enterprising jounalists didnt contact officials in another country and select a query from the "journalsits list of stupid questions."  IE,  how does it make you feel?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 08, 2010, 07:13:57 pm
Hone Harawira gets a free pass when he calls us white motherfuckers, and that seemed a little less tongue in cheek that anything Paul Henry has ever said.


Hone got suspended by his party (the Maori Party) for a longer period than Paul Henry has been suspended from TVNZ.

The only difference is that Hone continued to get paid, but the Maori Party don't have any control over that. The Speaker (who is a Nat) is the only person who can dock an MP's wages.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 09, 2010, 09:12:13 am
He knew how to pronnounce Sheila Dikshits name but he deliberately mispronounced it.  What was worse imo was what he said about her after that.
I love comedy but PH would never make it.   
 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 09, 2010, 09:43:24 am
One Paul Henry is worth a thousand of his mean-spirited, lemon-mouthed, sanctimonious, abusive, arm-chair critics.

Yes, he made a mistake. Now can the useless, jealous and pitifully inadequate rabble that has had to wait so long for a chance to get their knickers in a self-righteous twist please crawl back into the woodwork?



The above is a comment on the tvnz site....says it all really!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 09, 2010, 10:08:39 am
I thought you believed in freedom of speech Brownie  ;)

Twas no mistake, he knows what he is going to say

mean spirited, lemon-mouthed, jealous and pitiful etc;  describes PH quite well.    ;D

 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 09, 2010, 10:09:33 am
One Paul Henry is worth a thousand of his mean-spirited, lemon-mouthed, sanctimonious, abusive, arm-chair critics.

Yes, he made a mistake. Now can the useless, jealous and pitifully inadequate rabble that has had to wait so long for a chance to get their knickers in a self-righteous twist please crawl back into the woodwork?



The above is a comment on the tvnz site....says it all really!

He made a mistake? No. he didn't. He was told, for example, how a woman's name was pronounced and deliberately continued to mispronounce it. C'mon Brownie, that is not a mistake.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 09, 2010, 10:49:24 am
How many "mistakes"is he allowed? So far, working from memory, he has insulted Susan Boyle, a woman from Greenpeace, all women, Indians several times, Hispanics, the list just goes on and on.......

He has to go.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 09, 2010, 12:14:49 pm
This snowball is out of control.   Anyone else want to add how PH's statement has impacted on their life?   

Anyone want to have a guess why these two have made the front page?
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/4215154/Paul-Henry-opponents-complain-of-abuse

Paul Henry opponents complain of abuse

Wellington students Narita Chandra and Niki Singh say Paul Henry's racial comments have stripped them of their national identity and led to a barrage of abuse on a website they set up to promote a protest they're holding on Monday.

The pair, who are law students at Victoria University, are organising a rally which will start outside Wellington railway station at noon and head to Parliament. They want Henry to be sacked.

"We are both first-generation Fijian Indians that were born in New Zealand and we both considered ourselves New Zealanders but, [after] his comments 'will the next governor-general look and sound like a New Zealander?', we feel that's basically stripped us of our national identity," Ms Chandra said.

"We are pretty offended and outraged by his comments and the response by John Key and Television New Zealand."

To drum up support for their rally, they set up a Facebook page publicising the event – which has since been bombarded with abusive messages.

"There have been times when me and my colleague have sat down and burst into tears. People have said: 'You should just go back to your country, Paul Henry is good'," Ms Chandra said.

"It's just been like, 'wow, I didn't think this was New Zealanders and this was their view'."

On Monday, the Breakfast host asked if Auckland-born Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was "even a New Zealander", and whether his successor would "look and sound like a New Zealander".

TVNZ has suspended Henry for two weeks without pay.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 09, 2010, 12:16:53 pm
 thought you believed in freedom of speech Brownie  


yep    and PH has the same rights as you I guess.   Untangle ya knickers and don't watch him if you don't like him...easy!



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 09, 2010, 12:18:28 pm
Paul Henry opponents complain of abuse

Wellington students Narita Chandra and Niki Singh say Paul Henry's racial comments have stripped them of their national identity and led to a barrage of abuse on a website they set up to promote a protest they're holding on Monday.



For gods sake   talk about attention seeking ...


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 09, 2010, 12:20:00 pm

Oh well....I guess the “80% lowest common demoninator” who worship Henry are going to end up suffering withdrawal symptoms when Paul Henry is sacked by TVNZ CEO Rick Ellis, eh? And I see even the Nats' Mr Fixit, Steven Joyce, is saying Paul Henry is a liability!  8)



Paul Henry's job future looking shaky

By CLAIRE TREVETT (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/claire-trevett/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=74) and YVONNE TAHANA (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/yvonne-tahana/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=345) - The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:30AM - Saturday, October 09, 2010

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Paul Henry's comments have upset India's Government.
 — Photo: Greg Bowker.


TVNZ's chief executive will consider Paul Henry's future over the weekend as pressure mounts for the presenter to be axed.

The state broadcaster's head, Rick Ellis, last night suggested Henry's future was far from certain, despite his earlier stand that Henry's job was not on the line.

"I think that as the week has progressed and the complaints have continued to roll into the company, you've really got to reassess things each day and I'll be reflecting over the weekend and again on Monday as to where we go from here."

The bleak signal for Henry came after Maori Affairs Minister Pita Sharples said in an interview with current affairs show Marae Investigates that Henry should go.

The interview screens tomorrow at 10am on TV One.

Mr Sharples is the second senior minister to cast doubt over Henry's position as Breakfast co-host.

Earlier Communications Minister Steven Joyce suggested he was becoming a liability.

The criticism comes against a backdrop of intensifying diplomatic fallout in India where Henry's outburst has drawn strong reaction from the country's Government.

Asked if he thought Henry was racist, Mr Ellis said: "I'm not sure I'm going to answer that question because I don't want to be drawn into this whole debate about whether Paul Henry is racist or not.

"Certainly the comments that he's made have clearly been of a racist nature and they could only be interpreted that way ... as a person deep down I think he's a very decent human being."

The fallout from Henry's questioning of whether the Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was "even a New Zealander" and whether the next governor-general would "look and sound like a New Zealander" has included hundreds of complaints to the broadcaster.

The issue has been compounded by Henry's earlier mockery of an Indian minister's name.

Senior TVNZ management have faced criticism about whether lax management of Henry led to the situation.

Mr Ellis said he had taken steps to tighten editorial guidelines.

"From time to time you do need to revisit the discipline around the implementation of editorial policies and that's what we're going to do."

Prime Minister John Key yesterday continued to dismiss Henry's mockery of an Indian minister's name as a joke which got out of hand.

New Zealand's High Commissioner in New Delhi, Rupert Holborow, has apologised for Paul Henry's "racist, insensitive, inappropriate and vulgar" mocking of Delhi chief minister Sheila Dikshit's name after India summoned him to make a formal protest.

India's High Commissioner in New Zealand has also written to broadcasting minister Jonathan Coleman to protest about it.

Foreign Minister Murray McCully yesterday described Henry's comments as "gratuitous and insulting" when responding to the diplomatic action taken by India. Mr Coleman also said he was not surprised people found the comments "offensive and inappropriate".

Mr Key said he did not intend to make contact with the Indian Government, saying the High Commissioner's apology was in effect an apology from himself.

Labour leader Phil Goff said Mr Key could not afford to try to deflect the situation by downplaying it.

"He has to say this is totally unacceptable and offensive. We are right in the middle of trade negotiations with India."

Media in India have widely covered the issue, including reporting that Indian ministers boycotted a dinner with Sir Anand, who is in India.

YouTube clips of Henry's comments have been replayed by Indian television stations.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10679225 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10679225)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 09, 2010, 12:40:49 pm
I thought you believed in freedom of speech Brownie  ;)

Twas no mistake, he knows what he is going to say

mean spirited, lemon-mouthed, jealous and pitiful etc;  describes PH quite well.    ;D


The following editorial comment published by the Otago Daily Times the other day summed things up perfectly.

I've already posted it in this thread, but I'll re-post it.

Note how they play a game of what it takes to be a REAL Kiwi and how the current GG beats Henry hands down!

Perhaps Paul Henry is jealous because the GG is more of a REAL Kiwi than he'll ever be (he, Henry, spent part of his life being a stuck-up pommy git instead of being a REAL Kiwi), so maybe that is why he made snide racist comments directed at the GG?

Read the editorial — it's a good 'un.



Editorial comment: What does it take to be a real Kiwi?

By Assitant Editor SIMON CUNLIFFE - Otago Daily Times | Wednesday, 06 October 2010

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SUBJECT A WAS BORN in Auckland in 1944.

He attended Richmond Road School in Ponsonby, and Sacred Heart College in Glen Innes.

He graduated from Auckland University with a bachelor of laws degree in 1970 and worked at the Crown Solicitor's Office in Auckland, before being appointed a District Court judge in 1982.

He sat in Palmerston North, then various Auckland courts, before being appointed a Parliamentary Ombudsman in 1994, serving two five-year terms, before being elevated to one of the country's highest offices in 2006.

He was made a distinguished companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit in 2006 and subsequently redesignated a Knight Grand Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit — "Sir" to you and me.


SUBJECT B WAS ALSO BORN in Auckland, in 1960.

In 1971, at the age of 11, he moved with his mother to Bristol, in the United Kingdom, where he completed his education and won a drama school scholarship.

He began a career in broadcasting working for the BBC before eventually returning to New Zealand.

He was employed by a number of radio stations before setting up his own in 1991.

He moved on to numerous other roles on Radio Pacific and Radio Live and ran unsuccessfully as a National Party candidate in the Wairarapa electorate, won by transsexual Labour MP Georgina Beyer.

He now hosts a high-profile national breakfast television show and has won notoriety for several incidents in which he has belittled public figures.


ON THE ABOVE evidence — admittedly not complete — which of our subjects is more entitled to consider himself a real "New Zealander"? Neither, is the correct answer, for they are both equally entitled to call themselves Kiwis.

But if one had to choose, if one had to weigh up competing claims, it might be thought Subject A could have the edge.

On what basis?

Longevity, for starters: he's lived here longer.

Uninterrupted residence? Public service? Contribution to society?

It's an academic exercise, but not according to Subject B, who this week clearly insinuated in the presence of the Prime Minister, John Key, that Subject A's credentials as a New Zealander were questionable.


ON MONDAY MORNING, on state broadcaster TV One's Breakfast programme, host Paul Henry Hopes, more commonly known as Paul Henry, asked Mr Key of Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand, "Is he even a New Zealander?"

Mr Henry, revealing the underlying thrust of his question, continued: "Are you going to choose a New Zealander [as Governor-General] who looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time ... Are we going to go for someone who is more like a New Zealander this time?"

For Paul Henry, the colour of Sir Anand Satyanand's skin, his ethnicity and voice inflections, single him out as not a real New Zealander.

It is hard to describe this as anything other than racism.

And into this matey, blokes-like-us conspiracy of insinuation, Mr Henry invited Mr Key.

Not normally short of a word, nor presence of mind, on the occasion Mr Key's deserted him and it was not until later in the day that he saw fit to contradict or condemn his erstwhile host.

Mr Henry subsequently issued the standard meaningless and unfelt apology for any "offence caused", then again, as the fallout began to settle in, more sincerely — apparently.

Belatedly, yesterday, a day after the event and having at first tried to defend its broadcaster's actions, TVNZ suspended Mr Henry without pay until October 18 — a period of a little less than two weeks.

Mr Henry has many skills as a broadcaster.

He is intelligent, sharp, with a distinctive and playful wit.

He is, for instance, especially good at shafting the shibboleths of humourless political correctness: that which should not be spoken, he takes a certain pride in speaking.

That is fine, as far as it goes, welcome even, and refreshing.

But Mr Henry would also enlist us all — using as his platform the offices of the "public broadcaster", TV One — into his particular world view, political, cultural, social.

Beneath the jokey mien runs a vein of mean-spirited prejudice: whether it is facial hair on female studio guests, the "retarded" appearance of Susan Boyle, the unnaturalness of homosexuals, or expressing the view that to be a real New Zealander you have to be white-skinned, like himself and Mr Key, and talk just like it.

Behind it all seems to be the idea that "difference" is to be singled out and mocked.

And after the mockery ..? What then?

The calumnies of history tell us that is a dangerous path to traverse.

Initially, a TVNZ spokesman defended Mr Henry on the basis the audience consistently says they like the host precisely because "he's prepared to say things we quietly think but are scared to say out loud".

This is as indefensible as Mr Henry's original remarks.

First, that the public broadcaster apparently sees fit to ascribe to all New Zealanders complicity in Mr Henry's racist sentiments is insulting and offensive; second, it shows yet again that ultimately TV One aspires to no higher standards than those of a ratings-craving populism — a brand of broadcasting inexorably bound for the gutter.


http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/opinion/130031/what-does-it-take-be-real-kiwi (http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/opinion/130031/what-does-it-take-be-real-kiwi)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 09, 2010, 01:47:41 pm

......telling me to untwist my knickers, just make me laugh more.   


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 09, 2010, 08:01:51 pm

......telling me to untwist my knickers, just make me laugh more.   

Well that is good ferney.   (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/39emthup.gif)
good for you.....   Glad you can still laugh as you were beginning to sound like an old prude.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 09, 2010, 08:43:59 pm

Big client reviews its TVNZ advertising after Henry slur

By MARTIN KAY - The Dominion Post | 5:00AM - Friday, 08 October 2010

A MAJOR SUPERMARKET CHAIN has revealed it reviewed its advertising with TVNZ after Breakfast host Paul Henry's ethnic slur against Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand.

Progressive Enterprises, which owns Countdown, Woolworths and Foodtown, said it took exception to Henry's comments that Sir Anand, who was born and raised in Auckland, did not look or sound like a New Zealander.

"Along with many other New Zealanders, we felt offended by Paul Henry's comments about what it is to be a New Zealander," a Progressive spokeswoman said.

"We note that TVNZ has disciplined Paul Henry by taking him off air, and in the meantime advertising will continue. We will be closely monitoring this issue and the placement of our advertising on behalf of our customers, our staff and our suppliers."

The statement suggests Progressive could pull any advertising scheduled for future Breakfast slots if Henry makes similar racially charged comments again.

It is the first indication TVNZ could be hit financially if Henry causes the same level of offence and complaints generated by the Sir Anand slur.

In 2003, TVNZ lost a $1 million contract after Mitsubishi Motors pulled its sponsorship of the Holmes programme after host Paul Holmes' "cheeky darkie" jibe about Kofi Annan, United Nations secretary-general at the time. Holmes had made the comments on his Newstalk ZB radio show.

The Progressive statement came as TVNZ brushed off calls for a boycott of Breakfast advertisers unless Henry was sacked.

A TVNZ spokeswoman said no advertisers had raised concerns with the company. "We've had no adverse reaction from either advertisers or sponsors. No-one has expressed unease."

Auckland Regional Migrant Services acting executive director Lawton Hakaraia urged viewers who were upset by the comments to write to Breakfast advertisers and threaten to withdraw their custom unless Henry was sacked.

"TVNZ must take full responsibility for what has happened and investigate and address the comments made by Henry, to ensure that such bigoted, ethnocentric remarks have no place on state-funded television."

Sir Anand is the patron of Arms, a non-profit organisation which assists about 6000 migrants a year across Auckland.

Henry was suspended without pay for two weeks on Tuesday after TVNZ chief executive Rick Ellis ruled the comments about Sir Anand were unacceptable. Mr Ellis has indicated there will be no further disciplinary action.

Senior TVNZ staffer Andi Brotherston offered her resignation for initially defending Henry's remarks, saying they were part of his well-liked style of saying what other people were thinking. The resignation offer was declined, but she apologised for the "horrendous error of judgment" in an email to staff.

Breakfast is looking for a main sponsor after Heritage Hotels withdrew about two months ago. Heritage chief operating officer Jeff Shearer said it withdrew for commercial reasons, not because of concerns about Henry.

TVNZ has received more than 600 complaints about the Sir Anand comments, more than 200 of which have so far been accepted as formal allegations of broadcasting standards breaches.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/4209516/Big-client-reviews-its-TVNZ-advertising-after-Henry-slur (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/4209516/Big-client-reviews-its-TVNZ-advertising-after-Henry-slur)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: beaker on October 10, 2010, 09:16:21 am
Paul Henry opponents complain of abuse

Wellington students Narita Chandra and Niki Singh say Paul Henry's racial comments have stripped them of their national identity and led to a barrage of abuse on a website they set up to promote a protest they're holding on Monday.



For gods sake   talk about attention seeking ...

Couldn't agree with you more.  A protest is to complain against something that you don't like.... of course you're going to be harrassed by those that don't agree with you... hence why it's called a protest.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Calliope on October 10, 2010, 10:59:06 am
I have only watched Paul Henry once - not on Breakfast, but on the episode of Intrepid Journeys which screened some time ago. I assumed the purpose of the Intrepid Journey series was to inform us about the people being visited but henry chose instead to mock their culture and the people themselves. I found it offensive and have never watched him since.
While admitting that many people may find his style of broadcasting amusing - and I don't doubt he can be amusing - his constant need to belittle others who are of a different colour, culture or gender leaves me completely cold.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 10, 2010, 11:05:15 am

I await with baited breath for all those “80% lowest common demoninator” folks who think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse to cut off their noses to spite their faces (all in the interests of showing they have principles) and refuse to purchase their groceries from any supermarket owned by Progressive (Countdown, Woolworths and Progressive) seeing as that company is reviewing it's advertising with TVNZ because of Paul Henry being a dickhead!  ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 10, 2010, 11:13:42 am

I await with baited breath for all those “80% lowest common demoninator” folks who think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse to cut off their noses to spite their faces (all in the interests of showing they have principles) and refuse to purchase their groceries from any supermarket owned by Progressive (Countdown, Woolworths and Progressive) seeing as that company is reviewing it's advertising with TVNZ because of Paul Henry being a dickhead!  ;D
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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 10, 2010, 01:36:52 pm
I have only watched Paul Henry once - not on Breakfast, but on the episode of Intrepid Journeys which screened some time ago. I assumed the purpose of the Intrepid Journey series was to inform us about the people being visited but henry chose instead to mock their culture and the people themselves. I found it offensive and have never watched him since.
While admitting that many people may find his style of broadcasting amusing - and I don't doubt he can be amusing - his constant need to belittle others who are of a different colour, culture or gender leaves me completely cold.

I never watched that program - doesnt interest me, but I do know that when he was in one of the african countries, Uganda I think, one of the local guides was killed while assisting him.  I dont know that I ever heard the fine details, but Henry has financially supported the bereaved family and ensured the kids got schooling, even though there was not the slightest obligation to do so, and he has never made a big thing out of it. 
Now, all the Henry-Haters can please themselves, but as previously mentioned, I have time for the man, and such acts dont lower his standing in my mind anyway. 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 10, 2010, 01:42:08 pm

I await with baited breath for all those “80% lowest common demoninator” folks who think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse to cut off their noses to spite their faces (all in the interests of showing they have principles) and refuse to purchase their groceries from any supermarket owned by Progressive (Countdown, Woolworths and Progressive) seeing as that company is reviewing it's advertising with TVNZ because of Paul Henry being a dickhead!  ;D

Dont hold your breath too long - I shop where its convenient and I need reminding who owns which supermarket anyway.
I used to shop at countdown, have never shopped at woolworths and havnt seen a supermarket called Progressive.

Last few times have been Pac&save [or some such name] because its on the way home - no other reason.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 10, 2010, 02:03:05 pm
I have only watched Paul Henry once - not on Breakfast, but on the episode of Intrepid Journeys which screened some time ago. I assumed the purpose of the Intrepid Journey series was to inform us about the people being visited but henry chose instead to mock their culture and the people themselves. I found it offensive and have never watched him since.
While admitting that many people may find his style of broadcasting amusing - and I don't doubt he can be amusing - his constant need to belittle others who are of a different colour, culture or gender leaves me completely cold.

I never watched that program - doesnt interest me, but I do know that when he was in one of the african countries, Uganda I think, one of the local guides was killed while assisting him.  I dont know that I ever heard the fine details, but Henry has financially supported the bereaved family and ensured the kids got schooling, even though there was not the slightest obligation to do so, and he has never made a big thing out of it. 
Now, all the Henry-Haters can please themselves, but as previously mentioned, I have time for the man, and such acts dont lower his standing in my mind anyway. 


Didn't know that about Paul. thanks for the info.   Just puts him another up the ladder in my estimation.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 10, 2010, 02:15:00 pm
Paul Henry made some stupid remarks about one persons name and it turns into an International furore and countless people are demeaned, diminished and traumatised by his comments.   Harawira insulted every mother in New Zealand and came out smelling like a rose.  Summat wrong with this picture.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 10, 2010, 02:16:43 pm
Henry's actions in Uganda, while very creditable, have nothing to do with his role on TV.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 10, 2010, 02:23:02 pm
I don't know why all those that don't like Paul Henry just don't watch him and let those that like him watch him. TV just doesn't have one channel people. You can actually change channels!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 02:40:58 pm



Key will stay on Breakfast
Newstalk ZB October 10, 2010, 2:17 pm

John Key says he will continue to front TVNZ's Breakfast show every week.

This follows calls from a number of MPs including Pita Sharples for Paul Henry to be sacked after separate comments caused offence to our governor general and the country of India.

But at the opening of the new look Eden Park today the Prime Minister said he would still sit in the hot seat.

A frequent guest on the Breakfast show says he won't appear again, while some advertisers have threatened to pull their money.
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8105402/key-will-stay-on-breakfast/

whoever wrote this story mustabin on the turps

Seems there could be a couple of wee words missing in this sentence of that story:

Quote
John Key says he will continue to front TVNZ's Breakfast show every week.

funny, I thought the show's front man is/was  Paul Wattsisname

maybe the sentence should read "John Key says he will continue to front up on TVNZ's Breakfast show every week.???

OK, I'll buy that, but then we get the ambiguous statement
Quote
A frequent guest on the Breakfast show says he won't appear again
  He being John Key, or Paul Wattsisname or the frequent guest  won't appear again?



sheesh, of course, it's from newstalk ZB, they must just directly autotranscribe NEWS from recorded comments. Squeaky Clean, no human touches it

Back to base folk, carry on carrying on    :P
 



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 10, 2010, 04:35:23 pm
I don't know why all those that don't like Paul Henry just don't watch him and let those that like him watch him. TV just doesn't have one channel people. You can actually change channels!

because people have to have something in their lives to whinge, whine, moan, bitch and complain about, more so here in NZ... we're diabolical for it! Some people just aren't happy unless they have something to moan about and the media love anything that can be whipped up into a sensation instead of letting it just die a natural death so we can all just get on with life and pay no heed to it! This has got PH more publicity (wanted or not) than ever!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 10, 2010, 04:39:11 pm
I guess living at the arse end of the world with nothing but aussies and penguins for neighbours for some it's about as exciting as it gets!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 04:52:23 pm
NEway

The heat is moved to the Victorian cops now, an email scandal has sparked diplomatic tensions between India and Australia, they've managed to upset the Indian Foreign Office, Paul can creep home unnoticed  


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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 10, 2010, 04:59:14 pm
Paul Henry made some stupid remarks about one persons name and it turns into an International furore and countless people are demeaned, diminished and traumatised by his comments.   Harawira insulted every mother in New Zealand and came out smelling like a rose.  Summat wrong with this picture.

Someone said to me that it was being used to take the heat of the commonwealth games etc... :-\


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 05:03:39 pm
NEway

The heat is moved to the Victorian cops now, an email scandal has sparked diplomatic tensions between India and Australia, they've managed to upset the Indian Foreign Office, Paul can creep home unnoticed  


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ooops, too late, he's bitten the bullet, fallen on his sword, committed harikari  (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/24emrosesad.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 10, 2010, 05:08:07 pm
Ah well, the sad sacks of s**t that need a humour transplant will now be happy.  Well, as happy as its possible for them to get, that is.
I am genuinely sorry to see him go.  The broadcasting scene has just become a bit more drear and lacklustre.
I predict "Breakfast" will slowly wither away now.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 10, 2010, 05:31:09 pm
A bigot bites the dust.....suck it up[ fellas.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 10, 2010, 05:34:12 pm
A bigot bites the dust.....suck it up[ fellas.

It seems the likes of you and others that called for his head, have just taken a big giant shit all over democracy and freedom of speech


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 10, 2010, 05:35:47 pm
I'm so struggling to see how we can have people in this country so fucken retarded that they just don't know how to change the channel of the TV if they see something or someone they don't like .


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 05:37:27 pm
A bigot bites the dust.....suck it up[ fellas.

It seems the likes of you and others that called for his head, have just taken a big giant shit all over democracy and freedom of speed

just taken a big giant shit all over democracy and freedom of speed


Luvvit crusader, can I use it?


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 05:42:46 pm
I'm so struggling to see how we can have people in this country so fucken retarded that they just don't know how to change the channel of the TV if they see something or someone they don't like .

Maybe tv and radio should have a automated audience monitor that records the force applied to the button that changes channel and interprets the highest applied strength as a protest about whatever comment causes the change?


 :P  just wondering


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Ferney on October 10, 2010, 05:45:06 pm
I'm so struggling to see how we can have people in this country so fucken retarded that they just don't know how to change the channel of the TV if they see something or someone they don't like .

Just like those with anti Auckland comments at times  They don't live here so why comment.  They do because they are taxpayers and feel they have a right to.
Its much the same with presenters on our state television who some consider to have gone too far.

...or maybe we have people in this country so fucken retarded that they just don't know when something has been  taken too far.


So, stop your whinging, its only TV, there are other channels to watch.    ;)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 10, 2010, 05:47:37 pm
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there are other channels to watch

Yes, but they are not worth watching! (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/10emsad.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 10, 2010, 05:48:04 pm
A bigot bites the dust.....suck it up[ fellas.

It seems the likes of you and others that called for his head, have just taken a big giant shit all over democracy and freedom of speed

What the f- has this to do with democracy? And freedom of speech? It isn't limitless, Crusader. It doesn't give you the right to be racist and bigoted, at least not in the civilised world. And there is certainly no freedom of speech around here. Anything that is said that upsets the majority is jumped on very quickly.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 05:52:15 pm
A bigot bites the dust.....suck it up[ fellas.

It seems the likes of you and others that called for his head, have just taken a big giant shit all over democracy and freedom of speed

What the f- has this to do with democracy? And freedom of speech? It isn't limitless, Crusader. It doesn't give you the right to be racist and bigoted, at least not in the civilised world. And there is certainly no freedom of speech around here. Anything that is said that upsets the majority is jumped on very quickly.

Aww sheesh I thought crusader's comment was on the freedom of speed, was it not?



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: ssweetpea on October 10, 2010, 05:57:07 pm
Paul Henry made some stupid remarks about one persons name and it turns into an International furore and countless people are demeaned, diminished and traumatised by his comments.   Harawira insulted every mother in New Zealand and came out smelling like a rose.  Summat wrong with this picture.

Paul Henry put his foot in it at a time when India was looking for a reason to divert attention from the shocking job they have made of the Commonwealth Games.

They succeeded thanks to Henry.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 10, 2010, 06:03:35 pm
Perhaps people should now vote with their TV remotes. 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 10, 2010, 06:05:41 pm
I'm so struggling to see how we can have people in this country so fucken retarded that they just don't know how to change the channel of the TV if they see something or someone they don't like .

Just like those with anti Auckland comments at times  They don't live here so why comment.  They do because they are taxpayers and feel they have a right to.
Its much the same with presenters on our state television who some consider to have gone too far.

...or maybe we have people in this country so fucken retarded that they just don't know when something has been  taken too far.


So, stop your whinging, its only TV, there are other channels to watch.    ;)


Umm didn't I say there were other channels to watch? You may want to just read what I actually wrote before commenting next time. Might make you look less like an idiot.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 10, 2010, 06:07:20 pm
A bigot bites the dust.....suck it up[ fellas.

It seems the likes of you and others that called for his head, have just taken a big giant shit all over democracy and freedom of speed

What the f- has this to do with democracy? And freedom of speech? It isn't limitless, Crusader. It doesn't give you the right to be racist and bigoted, at least not in the civilised world. And there is certainly no freedom of speech around here. Anything that is said that upsets the majority is jumped on very quickly.

It's pretty hard to argue with someone who doesn't even know how to change a TV channel


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: donquixotenz on October 10, 2010, 06:54:45 pm
breakfast is dead R.I.P.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 10, 2010, 06:59:26 pm
And what would you tell Germains in the 1930s? If you don't like Hitler turn the radio off?

Even Henry finally admits he went too far. A bit late, but better than nothing.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 10, 2010, 07:04:45 pm
Paul Henry made some stupid remarks about one persons name and it turns into an International furore and countless people are demeaned, diminished and traumatised by his comments.   Harawira insulted every mother in New Zealand and came out smelling like a rose.  Summat wrong with this picture.

Paul Henry put his foot in it at a time when India was looking for a reason to divert attention from the shocking job they have made of the Commonwealth Games.

They succeeded thanks to Henry.

I wouldnt expect so - most of the world doesnt even know NZ exists.  What a show host says in an obscure part of the world that no-one has heard of, rates about .00005 on the scale of things.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 10, 2010, 07:07:42 pm
Paul Henry made some stupid remarks about one persons name and it turns into an International furore and countless people are demeaned, diminished and traumatised by his comments.   Harawira insulted every mother in New Zealand and came out smelling like a rose.  Summat wrong with this picture.

Paul Henry put his foot in it at a time when India was looking for a reason to divert attention from the shocking job they have made of the Commonwealth Games.

They succeeded thanks to Henry.

I wouldnt expect so - most of the world doesnt even know NZ exists.  What a show host says in an obscure part of the world that no-one has heard of, rates about .00005 on the scale of things.

Well, so far the story has made the BBC and CNN. No doubt the resignation will get an airing as well.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 10, 2010, 07:19:05 pm
Yet another poll.

Did Paul Henry make the right decision resigning from TVNZ?
Yes
1956 votes, 38.5%
   
 
No
3120 votes, 61.5%
   
 

Total 5076

61.5% and climbing.
[jumped from 59 to 61.5 in last 10 minutes]


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 10, 2010, 09:15:59 pm
DIKSHIT
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on October 10, 2010, 09:44:59 pm
Hooper no longer least liked Kiwi in DelhiNZPA
October 9, 2010, 6:55 am

NZPA
 

A week ago Commonwealth Games Federation chief executive Michael Hooper was the New Zealander least liked in Delhi, now he's being asked his opinion on his replacement -- TVNZ broadcaster Paul Henry.

Mr Hooper had effigies of himself burnt in the streets of New Delhi and was branded a racist, after reports in India quoted him as having said Delhi's "population hazard" hampered the organisation of the Games.

Protesters yelled "Leave Michael Hooper, go back, go back!", as they burned his image.

Heat was added to the effigy burning when it was said Mr Hooper was living a lavish lifestyle in Delhi, with a stipend and servants paid for by the Indian taxpayer through the organising committee.

Now, Henry is the New Zealander hitting the Delhi headlines, with every major newspaper today mentioning on the front page his comments about the city's Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit.

Mr Hooper and federation president Mike Fennell were today questioned about Henry at the Commonwealth Games press conference they hold daily.

Usually blunt, Mr Hooper chose his words carefully, but it was apparent he felt remarks Henry made about Ms Dikshit and Delhi were offensive.

"I think unfortunate comments that are made, such as the one from the reporter are being addressed appropriately by his employer," he said.

"I don't think New Zealand's reputation has been damaged in any way, this is an individual who has made certain comments and that will be looked into by his employer.

"New Zealand is a great country and I am proud of it, and I would welcome all Indians to come and see it one day."

Henry's remarks escalated into a diplomatic tiff that yesterday saw New Zealand High Commissioner Rupert Holborow in Delhi summoned by the Indian Government, then issue an apology.

Mr Fennell told the press conference he was unaware of the furore spilling over into the Games, or affecting New Zealand athletes.

"There is no indication of that, whatsoever."

India told Mr Holborow it was annoyed at comments made by Henry about Ms Dikshit, whose name he mocked.

Mr Holborow was handed a demarche, a formal protest.

The Hindustan Times reported that senior external affairs ministry official Vijaya Latha Reddy last week "consciously" stayed away from a lunch in honour of Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand in reaction to Henry's comments.

Sir Anand has himself been the victim of Henry's barbs, who asked if he was "even a New Zealander" and whether the next governor-general would "look and sound like a New Zealander".

Sir Anand is in Delhi for the Games, and addressed the New Zealand team on the eve of the opening ceremony.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8101287/hooper-no-longer-least-liked-kiwi-in-delhi

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/polls/popup/-/poll_id/57305


Yes   57%  6824 votes 
No   36%  4323 votes 
Not sure   7%  807 votes 

 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: beaker on October 10, 2010, 10:14:56 pm
The only upside in all of this for me is that I'll start getting to work on time... now there's nothing to watch in the mornings.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 10, 2010, 11:43:31 pm
Key will stay on Breakfast
Newstalk ZB October 10, 2010, 2:17 pm

John Key says he will continue to front TVNZ's Breakfast show every week.


Of course he will, because John Key is too lightweight to risk fronting on REAL news programs such as Radio NZ National's Morning Report where he would be ripped to shreds and exposed for the hollow political shell he really is. I notice John Key is also really averse to fronting up to Mary Wilson, also at Radio NZ. She would likewise rip him to shreds and expose how lightweight he really is.

He has occasionally been interviewed on Newstalk ZB, but I'm picking that will now change because Sean Plunket who used to co-host Radio NZ National's Morning Report will shortly be starting on Newstalk ZB and John Key knows Sean Plunket would expose him and rip his lightweight principles to shreds, which is no doubt the reason why John Key has seldom appeared on Morning Report, and then the few times he has appeared (about half-a-dozen times since he became PM) it has been while Sean Plunket has been on leave. 

John Key appears on TVNZ's Breakfast because it is a lightweight show where he doesn't have to come up with REAL substance and can get away with his lightweight principles where the ONLY thing that counts is how he looks in the mirror and the polls. Plus, up until now he has had his mate, Paul Henry to contend with, someone who won't ask him awkward questions.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 11, 2010, 07:15:57 am
Who watched Breakfast this morning?     No TV going here this morning.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 11, 2010, 07:42:44 am
Yeah I did, only because I like to watch the news whilst I iron my uniform. There isn't any other channel that offers that.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 11, 2010, 08:02:55 am
Fair nuff.    ;D  This too will pass.    Hope you haven't got torrential rain up there like we have here right now.  That would undo your creases.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 11, 2010, 08:14:25 am
It is interesting that if this woman's name was Síle O’ Dikshit (Síle= proper spelling of Shelia) and she was Irish with red hair, freckles and pale white skin, we'd all be in here wetting ourselves laughing and saying fiddle e dee potatoes, even bruno and the GG wouldn't have even turned a hair over it... but she wasn't.

Hone makes a racist slur and the GG says that he has a right to as it is freedom of speech etc, theres a small amount of uproar and he's still got his job... PH asks if the GG is a NZer and the GG and others start yelling racist etc!

PH did a silly thing, in hind site, but what it did do was show us as who we really are... humans, we are not as perfect here in NZ as we like to make out to the rest of the world, whether we like it or not even if PH didn't behave the way he did many joe citizens would have. I realise that is not the point PH is a public figure. But my point is that it's fact, we only scream racism on mass when the person who is being ridiculed etc is of the none white skin colour.... double standards and hypocracy NZ!



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 11, 2010, 08:26:41 am
It is interesting that if this woman's name was Síle O’ Dikshit (Síle= proper spelling of Shelia) and she was Irish with red hair, freckles and pale white skin, we'd all be in here wetting ourselves laughing and saying fiddle e dee potatoes, even bruno and the GG wouldn't have even turned a hair over it... but she wasn't.

Hone makes a racist slur and the GG says that he has a right to as it is freedom of speech etc, theres a small amount of uproar and he's still got his job... PH asks if the GG is a NZer and the GG and others start yelling racist etc!

PH did a silly thing, in hind site, but what it did do was show us as who we really are... humans, we are not as perfect here in NZ as we like to make out to the rest of the world, whether we like it or not even if PH didn't behave the way he did many joe citizens would have. I realise that is not the point PH is a public figure. But my point is that it's fact, we only scream racism on mass when the person who is being ridiculed etc is of the none white skin colour.... double standards and hypocracy NZ!



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Fair nuff.    ;D  This too will pass.    Hope you haven't got torrential rain up there like we have here right now.  That would undo your creases.

Nah it is a fine day here in the sunshine capital of NZ. Bit of a frost this morning though. There goes next season's grapes.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: dragontamer on October 11, 2010, 08:38:14 am
There is blue sky coming in from the South Auntie Goo.  Should reach you in the next few minutes.  Of course, it's pissing down with the sunshine, but meh....

Looking forward to a wind shift to the northeast.  I'm done with cold.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 11, 2010, 09:17:00 am
It is interesting that if this woman's name was Síle O’ Dikshit (Síle= proper spelling of Shelia) and she was Irish with red hair, freckles and pale white skin, we'd all be in here wetting ourselves laughing and saying fiddle e dee potatoes, even bruno and the GG wouldn't have even turned a hair over it... but she wasn't.

Hone makes a racist slur and the GG says that he has a right to as it is freedom of speech etc, theres a small amount of uproar and he's still got his job... PH asks if the GG is a NZer and the GG and others start yelling racist etc!

PH did a silly thing, in hind site, but what it did do was show us as who we really are... humans, we are not as perfect here in NZ as we like to make out to the rest of the world, whether we like it or not even if PH didn't behave the way he did many joe citizens would have. I realise that is not the point PH is a public figure. But my point is that it's fact, we only scream racism on mass when the person who is being ridiculed etc is of the none white skin colour.... double standards and hypocracy NZ!




Have an applaud. (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/39emthup.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 11, 2010, 09:20:07 am
There is blue sky coming in from the South Auntie Goo.  Should reach you in the next few minutes.  Of course, it's pissing down with the sunshine, but meh....

Looking forward to a wind shift to the northeast.  I'm done with cold.
Tis positively pisculating down here. Look up and blow harder please because I have to go out very soon.  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/verschiedene/g030.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: dragontamer on October 11, 2010, 09:27:41 am
It is interesting that if this woman's name was Síle O’ Dikshit (Síle= proper spelling of Shelia) and she was Irish with red hair, freckles and pale white skin, we'd all be in here wetting ourselves laughing and saying fiddle e dee potatoes, even bruno and the GG wouldn't have even turned a hair over it... but she wasn't.

Hone makes a racist slur and the GG says that he has a right to as it is freedom of speech etc, theres a small amount of uproar and he's still got his job... PH asks if the GG is a NZer and the GG and others start yelling racist etc!

PH did a silly thing, in hind site, but what it did do was show us as who we really are... humans, we are not as perfect here in NZ as we like to make out to the rest of the world, whether we like it or not even if PH didn't behave the way he did many joe citizens would have. I realise that is not the point PH is a public figure. But my point is that it's fact, we only scream racism on mass when the person who is being ridiculed etc is of the none white skin colour.... double standards and hypocracy NZ!




Have an applaud. (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/39emthup.gif)


If he had done the sensible thing and kept his head down for a wee while after the GG gaff, he wouldn't be in this boat.  Instead he seemed to have the mindset that "If you think that was outrageous, look what I can do with this".  He could have got away with a raised eyebrow and a side comment (after pronouncing the name the way he had been told to pronounce it) of "Golly - the spelling of that could cause some trouble for the unwary" or some such.  He would have got his point across (whatever it may have been) and given no fodder to the headhunters.  Then, further down the track he could have tripped on his merry way insulting all and sundry with just the occasional bleat.

Just for the record I think most of the complainers are just being precious.  But he should have thought first.  Just because it runs through your head, doesn't mean it should come out your mouth.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 11, 2010, 02:46:54 pm
It is interesting that if this woman's name was Síle O’ Dikshit (Síle= proper spelling of Shelia) and she was Irish with red hair, freckles and pale white skin, we'd all be in here wetting ourselves laughing and saying fiddle e dee potatoes, even bruno and the GG wouldn't have even turned a hair over it... but she wasn't.

Hone makes a racist slur and the GG says that he has a right to as it is freedom of speech etc, theres a small amount of uproar and he's still got his job... PH asks if the GG is a NZer and the GG and others start yelling racist etc!

PH did a silly thing, in hind site, but what it did do was show us as who we really are... humans, we are not as perfect here in NZ as we like to make out to the rest of the world, whether we like it or not even if PH didn't behave the way he did many joe citizens would have. I realise that is not the point PH is a public figure. But my point is that it's fact, we only scream racism on mass when the person who is being ridiculed etc is of the none white skin colour.... double standards and hypocracy NZ!




Have an applaud. (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/39emthup.gif)


If he had done the sensible thing and kept his head down for a wee while after the GG gaff, he wouldn't be in this boat.  Instead he seemed to have the mindset that "If you think that was outrageous, look what I can do with this".  He could have got away with a raised eyebrow and a side comment (after pronouncing the name the way he had been told to pronounce it) of "Golly - the spelling of that could cause some trouble for the unwary" or some such.  He would have got his point across (whatever it may have been) and given no fodder to the headhunters.  Then, further down the track he could have tripped on his merry way insulting all and sundry with just the occasional bleat.

Just for the record I think most of the complainers are just being precious.  But he should have thought first.  Just because it runs through your head, doesn't mean it should come out your mouth.

I agree, old irish saying, many a man has hand his nose broken by the flapping of his own tongue, PH got to cocky pushed the boundries and nothing really happened in the past, but this time it was once too often.

As a work mate said, "he's an arogant prick, but I like him"


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 11, 2010, 08:24:41 pm
Who watched Breakfast this morning?     No TV going here this morning.


Not me.

Breakfast is light-weight rubbish entertainment pretending to be news, as it has always been no matter who has been fronting it (which is probably why John Key prefers to appear on Breakfast instead of fronting up to REAL news programs).

I listened to Radio New Zealand National's Morning Report (as I usually do) for REAL news and in-depth discussion about the news.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 11, 2010, 08:25:56 pm

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 11, 2010, 08:26:11 pm

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 11, 2010, 08:26:40 pm

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Brownie55 on October 11, 2010, 10:12:21 pm
This is interesting ...watch it through to the part where Sheila Dikshit is asked how nher name is pronounced. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sspaeeurl0A&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: dragontamer on October 12, 2010, 08:25:31 am
On Tuesday, 7 September, Paul Henry apparently said something to the effect of "maori not yet having their hands out after the quake".  I say apparently because I didn't see it, but I was talking to one who did.  She also emailed TVNZ as did a lot of others she knew. 

While they are discussing the GG and Dikshit sagas, TVNZ are extremely quiet on the above comment, even though this woman is adamant that there were dozens of emails from her immediate contacts.  She estimated that the 'email tree' that resulted would account for a good portion of the 200 complaints TVNZ are referring to and yet were sent prior to both of the GGG and Dikshit sagas. 

Or does this mean that there are even more complaints than TVNZ are admit, and it is more a case of 'three strikes, your out'.

 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 12, 2010, 08:59:04 am
Now everyone is wanting their slice of the lime light and to be felt sorry for!

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8110912/protesters-slam-tvnz-as-racist/
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/search/?p=TVNZ+Protest


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 12, 2010, 01:10:52 pm

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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 13, 2010, 06:15:34 am
Jeanette Fitzsimons must be feeling like chopped liver since during 'the' interview where the offence of being silly occurred and the topic of GG and who would be next  was broached, PH said to the PM " please! please! do not choose Jeanette Fitzsimons" and the PM said ok and that it wouldn't be her.   
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/10/top_10_choices_for_governor-general.html


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 13, 2010, 06:22:02 pm
Did anyone see Stuart Farquhar (Silver medal winner in the Javelin throw) on TV tonight? When asked by the reporter what he thought was the prooblem when the officials initially measured his throw 3 metres too short, he shrugged his shoulders and stated 'India.'
I'm wondering how long it will take the PC brigade to get up and arms over this.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 13, 2010, 08:45:56 pm
Did anyone see Stuart Farquhar (Silver medal winner in the Javelin throw) on TV tonight? When asked by the reporter what he thought was the prooblem when the officials initially measured his throw 3 metres too short, he shrugged his shoulders and stated 'India.'
I'm wondering how long it will take the PC brigade to get up and arms over this.


That's merely the payback for idiots like Paul Henry and Michael Laws.

Or.....the what goes around comes back around again!  8)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 13, 2010, 08:46:10 pm

Henry isn't the only one who needs to go

Brian Rudman on National Issues

The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:30AM - Wednesday, October 13, 2010

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Rick Ellis seems keen to draw a line under
the Paul Henry fiasco now the Breakfast
host has handed in his resignation.
 — Photo: Brett Phibbs.


PAUL HENRY is not the only thing that's gone feral at Television New Zealand.

So's my TVNZ-TiVo recording device. Always a sucker for a new electronic toy, especially when it's heavily discounted, I took delivery of the machine a month ago.

Since then, the thrill of the purchase worn off, it's been sitting next to the television, blinking its green and red lights trying to get my attention.

On Sunday night, I finally got around to recording something and discovered it had a subversive anti-TVNZ mind of its own.

While checking afterwards for signs that I'd mastered the technology and saved my chosen programme, I discovered Mr TiVo had got sick of waiting for me to tell it what to do, and started recording screeds of programmes of its own choice, predominantly news and current affairs from the two Chinese language channels, TV8 and NZ33.

Its favourite was a daily show called I Love New Zealand, closely followed by Dialogue, Cultural Express, Mainland Q and A — the majority Chinese language versions of what, I presume, are the sort of public service current affairs shows that TiVo's local vendor, TVNZ, long ago expelled to its fringes.

The one TVNZ programme TiVo did select was Marae, where I unearthed a civilised discussion between rival MPs Pita Sharples and Shane Jones over the Paul Henry fiasco.

It was one of those rare sightings of a public service show on TVNZ — an intelligent discussion between adults on a matter of current affairs.

So rare, indeed, I hesitate to draw attention to it now for fear chief executive Rick Ellis or one of his underlings will rush in a shock jock to dumb it down.

Reading the manual, I discovered TiVo has a little man lurking in the device trying to second-guess what programmes I might like to watch and records them automatically.

I'm quite impressed that he worked out I was partial to current affairs and news.

But how telling it is that this TVNZ product obviously thinks there's precious little that fits that prescription on its master's playlist, and has to resort to recording Chinese language current affairs for me instead.

As I wrote last week, Henry's departure was inevitable. What is shameful is that his leave-taking seems to have had little to do with his racist slurs, but was all about the threats of major advertisers to withdraw their support from the state broadcaster.

Mr Ellis has already admitted that a supermarket chain was considering its position.

In his mind, no doubt, will have been Mitsubishi Motors' withdrawal of its $1 million sponsorship of the Holmes show in 2003 after the TV One host's outburst against Kofi "cheeky darkie" Annan, the United Nations Secretary-General.

It's evidence that advertisers have an antenna for what is acceptable, even if the television bosses do not.

How ironic, indeed, that Henry, who was brought in as a shock jock to attract better breakfast audiences and thus advertising to TVNZ, has now been brought down by those advertisers.

The recent grovelling by former Whanganui Mayor and radio-raver Michael Laws was no doubt been triggered by the same advertiser pressure.

Without a mayoral income to rely on since Saturday, Laws has now jumped off the mock-the-GG bandwagon he so excitedly leaped aboard a few days before, and is now apologising for any offence he's caused. Yea.

The only thing he's sorry for is that he could be out of two jobs in a week.


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What worries me is that Mr Ellis seems to be hoping that with Henry's so-called "resignation" — softened with a large golden handshake — the public broadcaster can resume transmission as though nothing has happened.

Hopefully, growing public and political pressure will force a more satisfactory outcome than that.

What is needed is an inquest into how everyone from the board down has allowed such a climate of arrogance to develop among the on-screen prima donnas of public television.

Media law specialist Steven Price, in a recent blog, agrees that Henry's suggestion that Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was not suitable for the job because of his Indian descent was racist.

He's of two minds, though, on whether it breaches the Broadcasting Standards Association's free-to-air television code.

But even if Henry can squirm his way out of that charge, he's surely breached the TVNZ charter's requirement that, for example, programmes "provide shared experiences that contribute to a sense of citizenship and national identity", and "promote understanding of the diversity of cultures making up the New Zealand population".

The charter is about to get the chop, to be replaced by the weak provisions of the Television New Zealand Amendment Bill, now working its way through Parliament.

That TVNZ, from the boardroom down, has ignored the requirements of the charter is hardly a reason to ditch the document — just the opposite.

It should be the trigger to replace the board and the executive team who have disregarded it.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10680089 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10680089)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 13, 2010, 08:46:50 pm

Ratings stay up without Henry

By BECK VASS (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/beck-vass/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=337) and AUDREY YOUNG (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/audrey-young/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=164) - The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz) | 5:30AM - Wednesday, October 13, 2010

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RATINGS for TVNZ's Breakfast show have remained high after the departure of host Paul Henry.

But India's High Commissioner to New Zealand, Retired Admiral Sureesh Mehta, believes the country's reputation has been damaged in the eyes of ordinary Indians by the Henry affair.

He said the Government had handled it "quite well" and he hoped it would not have lasting damage.

"These are the hiccups that come around in relationships but I'm sure they don't have lasting effects, especially when things are mended," he said.

He believed that a visit to India by Prime Minister John Key would be a good thing but the affair was too small a matter to be brought up between Mr Key and Dr Manmohan Singh.

Henry has apologised and resigned since casting racial slurs on the Breakfast show against Governor-General Anand Satyanand, a New Zealand-born and raised ethnic Indian, and New Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit.

Ratings for the show have been high in Henry's absence, but experts say it will be months before the effect of his departure is known.

Henry's resignation has divided New Zealanders.

Some are refusing to watch the show without him. Others are delighted that he is gone.

TVNZ admits it may have attracted some viewers who refused to watch the show while he was hosting it.

Viewer numbers over the period in which Henry was first suspended may also be skewed because of Commonwealth Games coverage, which could be attracting more viewers than usual.

Paul Norris, a tutor at Christchurch Polytechnic Institute of Technology's Broadcasting School, said it was too soon to know the effect of Henry's resignation.

"I think you need to look at least over a month — preferably three months. Ratings are important because of the trend that they might reveal, so you need to see what the trend is and obviously that has to be taken over time."

"You'll get the best indication if you look at the period three months before and three months afterwards."

Meanwhile, TVNZ's board chairman Sir John Anderson has said through a spokeswoman that he was satisfied the Henry incident was handled appropriately by chief executive Rick Ellis.

Auckland Indian Association president Harshad Patel said he had received dozens of messages from members of the Indian community who were happy that Henry had resigned.

"It was insulting for Indians ... we are living in a multicultural society. You cannot target one community."

But Mr Patel believed that in time, Henry could be forgiven.

India registered a formal complaint with New Zealand's High Commissioner in New Delhi, Rupert Holborow, and apologies were directed to the external affairs ministry and to Mrs Dikshit.

Mr Mehta said he hoped New Zealand would not be seen in the same light as Australia where attacks on Indian students had led to an exodus of students. New Zealand had benefited from that shift of students but he was not sure that would happen again.

Mr Mehta was at a trade conference in Wellington this week where Trade Negotiations Minister Tim Groser said the brouhaha of the past week would be a "forgotten footnote in the margins of history".

What mattered was the enormous strength of India and he repeated his call for Apec to admit India to its membership when the moratorium on new members is lifted this year.

New Zealand and India have started talks on a free trade deal.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10680182 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10680182)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Magoo on October 17, 2010, 06:20:02 am
Why am I not surprised that the children and elderly mother of PH were dragged into this.  Wouldn't it be an interesting exercise to look into the lives of the sticky beaks.






http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/4241678/Paul-Henrys-daughters-targeted-by-hate-mail

Paul Henry's daughters targeted by hate mail
Sunday News
Last updated 05:00 17/10/2010


Disgraced TV star Paul Henry's family received threats in the furore following his questioning of whether Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was a real New Zealander.

A source said the former TVNZ breakfast host was horrified when his daughters – Lucy, Sophie and Bella – and elderly mum, Olive, were targeted by his haters.

"He has always attracted his fair share of, shall we say, 'nutty' emails and letters but Paul was very concerned by the tone of some of what he was receiving, especially because it specifically identified his daughters and mother," the source told Sunday News.

Henry quit TVNZ last Sunday after being suspended without pay by his employer earlier that week following a flood of criticism and complaints.

He had asked Prime Minister John Key if he was going to pick someone "who looks and sounds more like a New Zealander" as the next Governor-General.

It followed Henry's mocking and mispronouncing Delhi chief minister Sheila Dikshit's name several times, despite being told it should be pronounced "Dixit".

TVNZ received more than 600 complaints and the comments sparked outrage all the way to India.

New Zealand's High Commissioner Rupert Holborrow was called in by the Indian foreign ministry and handed a demarche, a formal protest.

He was told India "strongly and unequivocally denounces the racist remarks of the journalist in question".

"These remarks are totally unacceptable to India". Dikshit had been hailed as the saviour of the Delhi Games, having stepped in when teams threatened to pull out of the games when the poor state of the athletes accommodation was exposed.

When he announced hisresignation Henry, well known for his controversial remarks – once labelling singer Susan Boyle a "retard" and saying a female guest on his show had a moustache – acknowledged he'd "crossed the line" by questioning whether Satyanand was a genuine Kiwi. "I am astonished and dismayed that my comments created a diplomatic incident. My style is conversational and, of course, unscripted," he said in a statement.

"I walk the finest of lines and accept that I have inadvertently crossed it from time to time.

"I am grateful to the thousands of people who have offered to support me. I hope they understand and accept an extraordinary convergence of circumstances has made this action necessary.



Does this man look like a New Zealander?
Does this man look like a Fijian Indian?
Is this man fat?



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 17, 2010, 12:00:22 pm

Over the past week, I have been trying to locate the news stories from when Paul Henry stood for National in the Wairarapa electorate.

They used to be on the Wairarapa Times-Age onliine archives website (which is spearate from their main website), but the archives site appears to be down at the moment (I hope it isn't permanent as there are a shitload of interesting historic news stories on that site).

One thing I did pick up on though was a news story in the Wairarapa Times-Age last week about Paul Henry and it was interesting to note that the former Chairman of the Wairarapa Branch of the National Party, Rick Long, was trying to gloss over things. I can still clearly remember Rick Long going very quiet, then trying to put spin on things when Paul Henry slagged off at Maori and anyone who didn't fit his narrow idea of sexuality, which cost him (and National) the election in Wairarapa. I can also clearly remember Paul Henry lashing out in the ultimate example of sore-loser calling Wairarapa voters “PIG-IGNORANT” for not voting for him. What an arrogant arsehole....his attitude was, “if you didn't vote for me then you are pig-ignorant”, which I guess showed the arsehole in his TRUE COLOURS!

The news story published last week is available online if you wish to read it....

http://www.times-age.co.nz/local/news/media-blamed-for-henry-saga/3926125 (http://www.times-age.co.nz/local/news/media-blamed-for-henry-saga/3926125)

I'm hoping the Wairarapa Times-Age online archives website will go back online, then I'll drag out those historic news stories showing what a total pillock Paul Henry really is and post them to this group. Whether the usual “80% lowest common demoninator” crowd then choose to take the blinkers off or whether they instead pull the blinkers tighter over their eyes will be another matter.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 17, 2010, 12:14:43 pm
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Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 17, 2010, 02:12:47 pm

Over the past week, I have been trying to locate the news stories from when Paul Henry stood for National in the Wairarapa electorate.

Why?

Do you really think that 90% of the people on this board really actually give a toss about PH standing for the Nats? or is it more the fact you have stuff all else in your life to keep you amused.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 17, 2010, 02:20:40 pm

Well all you people seem to think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse.

Yet you are prepared to totally close your minds to past history that shows Paul Henry in his TRUE arsehole colours.

What would you think of say a Labour, or Greens, or NZ First candidate who failed to win the seat in your electorate, then called all the locals “pig ignorant” for not voting for him or her? But because Paul Henry was standing for the Nats and did just that after he lost (as well as his earlier totally nasty stuff chucked at other canidates), you'd prefer to pretend it didn't happen. It's those Nats blinkers that go on whenever anything comes up that shows a Nat in his or her TRUE unsavoury colours.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on October 17, 2010, 02:45:35 pm
Well all you people seem to think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse.

No, It's more with the fact that people agree with some of what he says and or tho don't condone his actions see the double standards in this country etc!

Yet you are prepared to totally close your minds to past history that shows Paul Henry in his TRUE arsehole colours.

I've no doubt he's an arsehole.... but on many occasions that arsehole has called a spade a spade and many NZers sympathise with that; I seriously doubt that his past preformance as a Nat canidate would really worry to many people, it's in the past for a start!

What would you think of say a Labour, or Greens, or NZ First candidate who failed to win the seat in your electorate, then called all the locals “pig ignorant” for not voting for him or her?

I'd think the same as I would if they won the seat!

But because Paul Henry was standing for the Nats and did just that after he lost (as well as his earlier totally nasty stuff chucked at other canidates), you'd prefer to pretend it didn't happen.

I don't care if it happened or not! It's not going to change my choice to agree or disagree with stuff he says and I doubt dredging up his past behaviour will change anyone elses views one iota either, it just seems more of you desperate to be nocticed, many don't set their like for a persons comments on what their political beliefs are! Some of us aren't entily ruled by politics in every fascet of our lives!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on October 17, 2010, 03:08:04 pm

Well all you people seem to think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse.

Yet you are prepared to totally close your minds to past history that shows Paul Henry in his TRUE arsehole colours.

What would you think of say a Labour, or Greens, or NZ First candidate who failed to win the seat in your electorate, then called all the locals “pig ignorant” for not voting for him or her? But because Paul Henry was standing for the Nats and did just that after he lost (as well as his earlier totally nasty stuff chucked at other canidates), you'd prefer to pretend it didn't happen. It's those Nats blinkers that go on whenever anything comes up that shows a Nat in his or her TRUE unsavoury colours.

Really - who on earth cares?

I like the guy even though he once wanted to become a politician - something far more to his detriment in my opinion, than wondering if an overweight Indian gentleman was a NZ citizen.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on October 17, 2010, 06:36:19 pm

Well all you people seem to think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse.

Yet you are prepared to totally close your minds to past history that shows Paul Henry in his TRUE arsehole colours.

What would you think of say a Labour, or Greens, or NZ First candidate who failed to win the seat in your electorate, then called all the locals “pig ignorant” for not voting for him or her? But because Paul Henry was standing for the Nats and did just that after he lost (as well as his earlier totally nasty stuff chucked at other canidates), you'd prefer to pretend it didn't happen. It's those Nats blinkers that go on whenever anything comes up that shows a Nat in his or her TRUE unsavoury colours.

You are such a slave to what politicians do. Newflash! They only do what they are told to do and not by voters either.

Paul Henry was entertaining. It is enjoyable watching someone make a complete cock of themselves on TV. It was a great way to start the day off with having a laugh. But unfortunately all those PC do gooders that spend all day dribbling all over themselves because they are so fucken retarded, complained so much because they have no idea how to change a TV channel, means we don't get to laugh at the cock in the morning.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 20, 2010, 09:32:19 pm

(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/RasputinDude/Cartoons%202010/1598PaulHenrySahib20Oct10.jpg)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on October 20, 2010, 09:32:37 pm

(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/RasputinDude/Cartoons%202010/3398PaulHenry20Oct10.jpg)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on October 21, 2010, 02:37:53 pm

Well all you people seem to think the sun shines out of Paul Henry's arse.

Yet you are prepared to totally close your minds to past history that shows Paul Henry in his TRUE arsehole colours.

What would you think of say a Labour, or Greens, or NZ First candidate who failed to win the seat in your electorate, then called all the locals “pig ignorant” for not voting for him or her? But because Paul Henry was standing for the Nats and did just that after he lost (as well as his earlier totally nasty stuff chucked at other canidates), you'd prefer to pretend it didn't happen. It's those Nats blinkers that go on whenever anything comes up that shows a Nat in his or her TRUE unsavoury colours.

You are such a slave to what politicians do. Newflash! They only do what they are told to do and not by voters either.

Paul Henry was entertaining. It is enjoyable watching someone make a complete cock of themselves on TV. It was a great way to start the day off with having a laugh. But unfortunately all those PC do gooders that spend all day dribbling all over themselves because they are so fucken retarded, complained so much because they have no idea how to change a TV channel, means we don't get to laugh at the cock in the morning.

Sport if you want to laugh at a cock in the morning, just open your pyjama pants.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on November 14, 2010, 04:55:22 am
God save us all!

The producers apparantly want that useless stammering stuttering twat Holmes to front Breakfast!
Fortunately for the viewing public, it appears he cant do it.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4343007/TVNZs-Breakfast-wants-Holmes-sweet-Holmes


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on November 14, 2010, 05:13:06 am
God save us all!

The producers apparantly want that useless stammering stuttering twat Holmes to front Breakfast!
Fortunately for the viewing public, it appears he cant do it.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4343007/TVNZs-Breakfast-wants-Holmes-sweet-Holmes

 seems to me the interesting part of that story is what Paul Henry is planningto reveal


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: guest49 on November 14, 2010, 06:05:05 am
God save us all!

The producers apparantly want that useless stammering stuttering twat Holmes to front Breakfast!
Fortunately for the viewing public, it appears he cant do it.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4343007/TVNZs-Breakfast-wants-Holmes-sweet-Holmes

 seems to me the interesting part of that story is what Paul Henry is planningto reveal

Yeah - I just referred to the horror section! (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/09emcrook.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on November 15, 2010, 08:50:31 am


you may want to take a look at this  http://www.petitiononline.co.nz/user/gordon-marshall/3369



Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on November 15, 2010, 03:56:41 pm

 seems to me the interesting part of that story is what Paul Henry is planningto reveal

and here we are, pt 1:

Paul Henry: TVNZ turned on me
Stuff
Last updated 09:11 15/11/2010
                                                                            199 comments

Controversial former Breakfast host Paul Henry believes he was hung out to dry in the wake of the race storm which forced his resignation from TVNZ.

In an exclusive interview with New Idea magazine, Henry said that his former employers fuelled his outspoken nature, then turned on him when his provocative comments backfired.

"They did capitalise on me," he told New Idea.

"I was the performing snake with the sting in its tail. The better the performance, the greater the encouragement. And then when I turned around and bit someone's head off, they were happy to see the demise of the snake."

He doesn't feel the way TVNZ behaved was reasonable.

"I was surprised with the speed with which the mood changed. My overwhelming feeling was I'd turned from an asset into a liability."

However, he refused to point the finger at TVNZ CEO Rick Ellis, who he considers a friend, saying he only has respect for his former boss.

Henry told New Idea he still feels nothing to be sorry about, despite the public backlash when he ridiculed the name of Indian minister Sheila Dikshit, and queried whether Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand was "even a New Zealander".

He was "appalled" that New Zealand officially apologised to India and feels it was "unreasonable" for India to seek an apology.

"We are apologising for one person in the country exercising their right to freedom of speech. I think that's an outrage."

Giving an example of the support he's received since the incident, Henry describes being mobbed in petrol stations, supermarkets and shopping centres by fans - including Indians.

"I was at the service station and there were Indians everywhere," he said.

"There'd been sheepish looks from behind the counter and the Indian bloke who's serving me says 'I miss you so much on television in the morning, are you coming back?' Then that was the license for them all to join in."

As for who will replace him on Breakfast, Henry did not want to speculate, saying it's time for him to move on.

Henry today told Stuff he didn't want to do any further interviews about leaving television.

"It was important to me to do one interview and that's the only interview I want to do," he said.

He would not comment on whether he was paid for the article, but insiders speculated it may have been worth more than $20,000.

Former New Idea editor turned PR consultant Fleur Revell-Devlin said although men did not often sell well on the cover of magazines, Henry was an exception and the editor would have been prepared to pay for that.

The editor seems to have a good relationship with Paul. You could expect she'd know he sells well for her."

Revell-Devlin declined to put a figure on the article, but said weddings and first baby pictures sold from $20,000 upwards.

One of the magazine's highest-selling stories, featuring Lana Coc-Kroft's near-death experience in the Pacific, had reportedly sold for as much as $40,000 in 2004.

The magazine will reveal Henry's future plans in next week's edition.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/4344886/Paul-Henry-TVNZ-turned-on-me




Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on November 15, 2010, 04:48:01 pm
As for who will replace him on Breakfast, Henry did not want to speculate, saying it's time for him to move on.

I think we could all do that to be honest... tho I'm sure when the media has a slow news day they dredge it up and get the extreme pcers, who can't let sleeping dogs lie, frothing at the mouth!


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Crusader on November 16, 2010, 10:55:31 am
I thought Corrin did an outstanding job this morning asking the PM some tough questions on MP's travel perks. He really took it to JK.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on November 16, 2010, 01:04:43 pm
As for who will replace him on Breakfast, Henry did not want to speculate, saying it's time for him to move on.

I think we could all do that to be honest... tho I'm sure when the media has a slow news day they dredge it up and get the extreme pcers, who can't let sleeping dogs lie, frothing at the mouth!

I think we could all do that to be honest...     especially himself.  (http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p285/nitpnz/sticksballplay.gif)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on November 20, 2010, 10:55:40 am
I thought Corrin did an outstanding job this morning asking the PM some tough questions on MP's travel perks. He really took it to JK.


Paul Henry would never have asked hard questions of John Key.

His weekly sessions with Jonkey were always sucky-sucky back-slapping sessions.


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on November 20, 2010, 10:56:07 am

Paul Henry: TVNZ turned on me
Stuff
Last updated 09:11 15/11/2010
                                                                            199 comments

Controversial former Breakfast host Paul Henry believes he was hung out to dry in the wake of the race storm which forced his resignation from TVNZ.

In an exclusive interview with New Idea magazine, Henry said that his former employers fuelled his outspoken nature, then turned on him when his provocative comments backfired.

"They did capitalise on me," he told New Idea.

"I was the performing snake with the sting in its tail. The better the performance, the greater the encouragement. And then when I turned around and bit someone's head off, they were happy to see the demise of the snake."

He doesn't feel the way TVNZ behaved was reasonable.

"I was surprised with the speed with which the mood changed. My overwhelming feeling was I'd turned from an asset into a liability."


(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/RasputinDude/Cartoons%202010/4362248srPaulHenry19Nov10.jpg)


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on November 20, 2010, 11:13:11 am
Well maybe Paul was not pc enough for some folks but at least he was funny
and entertaining.

The program has gone backwards, its boring and i wont be bothered watching it anymore.

I wonder if the PC police are going to ban the morning FM station the EDGE its much too un PC

Some people just can't wait for the end of free speech.

"Be careful what you say or you might just hurt someones feelings"


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: nitpicker1 on November 20, 2010, 12:37:28 pm
Well maybe Paul was not pc enough for some folks but at least he was funny
and entertaining.

The program has gone backwards, its boring and i wont be bothered watching it anymore.

I wonder if the PC police are going to ban the morning FM station the EDGE its much too un PC

Some people just can't wait for the end of free speech.

"Be careful what you say or you might just hurt someones feelings"


So some people need their news presented as lowgrade entertainment?

If that is the case perhaps TVNZ should bung canned laughter on ad lib "comedian's" comments that are supposed to be funny  'cos I never did hear anyone in the studio laughing at his sort of humour, except Paul Henry himself.

That's probably because he was the only one there who thought he was funny.


 


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: akadaka on November 20, 2010, 01:03:42 pm
'cos I never did hear anyone in the studio laughing at his sort of humour,

we must be watching a different show because tamati,pippa and peter williams we always pissing themselves laughing with and at him ! As for the news itself,most of it is off a lowgrade quality anyway and who needs another phillip sherry reading the news with a carrot up his arse ;D


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on November 20, 2010, 01:32:01 pm
Quote
Posted by: nitpicker1
So some people need their news presented as lowgrade entertainment?

If that is the case perhaps TVNZ should bung canned laughter on ad lib "comedian's" comments that are supposed to be funny  'cos I never did hear anyone in the studio laughing at his sort of humour, except Paul Henry himself.

That's probably because he was the only one there who thought he was funny.


I think your a bit funny in a stiff kind of way  ;D Hahahahaha some canned laughter ;)



All news should have some humor added to it, thats because nearly all news is bad news
can be depressing it often has a political spin with a potion of fear mongering added to it for the training and brainwashing for the dumbed down masses who are treated like manipulated stupid sheep happy in their safe little bubble living a blind and obedient petty existence with fuck all clues about whats going on all around them..

Quote
Posted by: akadaka
Who needs another phillip sherry reading the news with a carrot up his arse  ;D

Theres more than a few lost carrots in here  :D

Maybe they could insert banana's because banana's are soft then they would be a bit more flexible.....


Title: Re: Breakfast big mouth strikes again
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on November 20, 2010, 01:44:41 pm
Please TVNZ
Free Us From The PC Bullshit Thought Police
Fly Away Peter
Bring Back Paul