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Title: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: ballasted moth on May 27, 2010, 10:38:29 am
 Whinging beneficiary Natasha Fuller who gets $37000 net from the state has received $10000 to start a business that didnt work and now demands $15000 for breach of privacy

This is why western economies are in free fall


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Magoo on May 27, 2010, 12:05:20 pm
Do you reckon she will get it?


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: ballasted moth on May 27, 2010, 12:05:58 pm
 No


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Magoo on May 27, 2010, 12:07:21 pm
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Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: AnFaolchudubh on May 27, 2010, 02:45:45 pm
Do you reckon she will get it?
No

I beg to differ, there'll be a hell of a lot of noise in sypmathy from the bleeding heart PC brigade in her favour!


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: ballasted moth on May 27, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
 There is an avalanche of opposition to her


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 27, 2010, 06:38:38 pm
As there should be.

And she went public first with her whinging and grizzling - Ms Bennett just put the rest of us in the picture to the actual facts about this professional bludger.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Crusader on May 27, 2010, 07:59:21 pm
Paula Bennett should turn around and tell her that if she came up to Wellington and acted as Paula's bitch for 6 months then she would get her 15 grand.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on May 28, 2010, 10:19:42 am
Whinging beneficiary Natasha Fuller who gets $37000 net from the state has received $10000 to start a business that didnt work and now demands $15000 for breach of privacy

This is why western economies are in free fall

Western economies are in free fall because Natasha Fuller has asked for compensation from a foot-in-the-mouth Cabinter Minister who flagrantly abused the law?

How interesting.......


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Crusader on May 28, 2010, 10:23:57 am

Western economies are in free fall because Natasha Fuller has asked for compensation from a foot-in-the-mouth Cabinter Minister who flagrantly abused the law?

How interesting.......

Didn't Natasha involve the media first? If so all Paula did was doing was continue battle on the ground dictated by Natasha. I personally think Natasha is nothing more than an Oxygen thief and maybe I should demand compensation off her for stealing precious oxygen away from me and my family.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Bruno Bastardo on May 28, 2010, 11:37:43 am
You and your beloved National Party are welcome to each other.

Natasha Fuller did not reveal any of Paul Bennett's private affairs to the media. She didn't abuse her position, Bennett did.

Crusader, your capacity to see everything out of only one eye is breathtaking.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: nitpicker1 on May 28, 2010, 12:36:03 pm



update and background  - trial by media?

$15,000 demand outrages Bennett
By Derek Cheng
4:00 AM Thursday May 27, 2010
 
Social Development Minister Paula Bennett has attacked the integrity of a solo mother who is asking for $15,000 to settle a privacy complaint against the minister, after previously denying she wanted any money.

Natasha Fuller laid the complaint last year after her welfare details were made public by the minister, following Ms Fuller's criticism of Government cuts to the Training Incentive Allowance.

Ms Bennett yesterday said she received a letter from Privacy Commissioner Marie Shroff's office last week, which had a request from Ms Fuller for $15,000 "to acknowledge her hurt and humiliation" and an apology for a breach of privacy.

She said she had no intention of paying and was surprised at the request, given that Ms Fuller had earlier said she would not seek money as a settlement.

"I ruled it out right at the beginning, there wouldn't be any cash settlement and I was incredibly surprised, particularly after her advocate [Labour MP] Charles Chauvel saying that she wasn't looking for a cash settlement, to then get a letter from the Privacy Commissioner a matter of days later saying categorically that she was."



Ms Fuller last night said she was "surprised" by Ms Bennett's remarks but declined to comment further, as the process was ongoing. Ms Shroff also declined to comment.

Ms Fuller and Ms Bennett met last month to discuss the issue, but Ms Bennett has always said money was never on the table.

After the meeting, Ms Fuller wrote about a cash settlement to a friend via online networking site Facebook, but later said she was joking and lying and the comments were not serious.

She then wrote to Ms Shroff, saying she wanted an apology from Ms Bennett - but no money - and an assurance the alleged breach of privacy would not happen again, to anyone.

Ms Bennett yesterday attacked Ms Fuller's integrity and accused her of being motivated by politics.

"Her integrity is obviously in question. She says one thing in one breath and then the next day seeks media attention, and then goes online and lies so it becomes very hard to believe anything she says.

"This used to be about privacy, I think it's now about politics ... driven by a Labour MP as her spokesman."

Mr Chauvel said he helped Ms Fuller draft the complaint and the letter sent a few weeks ago, but had since recommended another lawyer.

When asked how the issue could be resolved, Ms Bennett said: "I think it has been resolved. She has been trying to hold me responsible for what I think are political motivations and I'm not buying into it."

SOLO SAGA

July 2009

Solo mothers Natasha Fuller and Jennifer Johnston criticise Government cuts to training allowance for beneficiaries. Social Development Minister Paula Bennett makes public the benefit details of the women. Fuller lays a privacy complaint with the Privacy Commissioner.

April 2010

Bennett and Fuller meet and discuss the complaint. Fuller writes to a friend about a cash settlement, but later says she was just joking. Bennett vehemently denies money was ever on the table.

May 2010

Bennett says a letter from the Privacy Commissioner's office shows Fuller asking for $15,000 and an apology. The office declines to comment and says the process is ongoing.

By Derek Cheng

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10647715

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Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 28, 2010, 02:07:58 pm
Paula Bennett was once a dole bludger on the dpb herself

and she is the one who got political mileage out of it by naming names and making it all public.

if she broke the law  she should pay the money

Next time she might learn to keep her big fat mouth shut  ;D


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: guest49 on May 28, 2010, 08:17:10 pm
Paula Bennett was once a dole bludger on the dpb herself

and she is the one who got political mileage out of it by naming names and making it all public.

if she broke the law  she should pay the money

Next time she might learn to keep her big fat mouth shut  ;D

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Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Brownie55 on May 28, 2010, 11:27:04 pm
Paula Bennett was once a dole bludger on the dpb herself

and she is the one who got political mileage out of it by naming names and making it all public.

if she broke the law  she should pay the money

Next time she might learn to keep her big fat mouth shut  ;D

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SO?


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 28, 2010, 11:43:32 pm
Paula Bennett was once a dole bludger on the dpb herself

and she is the one who got political mileage out of it by naming names and making it all public.

if she broke the law  she should pay the money

Next time she might learn to keep her big fat mouth shut  ;D

(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/MSN%20emoticons/39emthup.gif)

Same could be said for that Natasha Fuller.

Oh.....except she's still IS a dole bludger.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 29, 2010, 12:18:15 am
Starting with yours should all everyones personal information be made public


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 29, 2010, 12:29:48 am
I have nothing to hide.  I work - I earn about $35k to do what I do.  And I make damned sure I'm in the right before I sling mud.

What about you Sexy? 


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 29, 2010, 03:45:01 am
I am not a show off and i have no wish to expose my secret life to the public






Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: guest49 on May 29, 2010, 07:26:51 am
I would be livid if some great fat slug of a politician made public, details of my life that should be confidential between me and whatever agency was holding them.
I hold no brief for anyone on welfare as a lifestyle, but to single out an individual and bring the full weight of the state down on them - in breach of all expectations of privacy - is the start of a slippery slope reminiscent of dictatorships.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: nitpicker1 on May 29, 2010, 07:59:43 am


I would be livid if some great fat slug of a politician made public, details of my life that should be confidential between me and whatever agency was holding them.
I hold no brief for anyone on welfare as a lifestyle, but to single out an individual and bring the full weight of the state down on them - in breach of all expectations of privacy - is the start of a slippery slope reminiscent of dictatorships.


Trial by media or political assassination?


...Ms Fuller and Ms Bennett met last month to discuss the issue, but Ms Bennett has always said money was never on the table.

After the meeting, Ms Fuller wrote about a cash settlement to a friend via online networking site Facebook, but later said she was joking and lying and the comments were not serious.

She then wrote to Ms Shroff, saying she wanted an apology from Ms Bennett - but no money - and an assurance the alleged breach of privacy would not happen again, to anyone.


Ms Bennett yesterday attacked Ms Fuller's integrity and accused her of being motivated by politics.

"Her integrity is obviously in question. She says one thing in one breath and then the next day seeks media attention, and then goes online and lies so it becomes very hard to believe anything she says.

"This used to be about privacy, I think it's now about politics ... driven by a Labour MP as her spokesman." ...

read the rest http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10647715


Apparently Facebook and Winz share the same privacy software


 


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: guest49 on May 29, 2010, 08:19:02 am
We are losing sight of the original point, that of the bordering on illegal actions of a bullying minister of the crown who I would have expected to show more discretion, but - unsurprisingly for her -  is totally unrepentant


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: nitpicker1 on May 29, 2010, 09:26:18 am

Yak
Don't get me wrong, Bennett was indiscrete - you put it mildly - but it seems to me both parties need their bottoms smacked


Dunno about the original point, seems to me it was

Whinging beneficiary Natasha Fuller who gets $37000 net from the state has received $10000 to start a business that didnt work and now demands $15000 for breach of privacy

This is why western economies are in free fall

 As usual, BM slides into everything sideways, so perhaps the original point was This is why western economies are in free fall

Maybe she should ask Gerald Celente about the rise of a third party. 


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 29, 2010, 09:41:11 am
1.  Sexy - what a load of crap lol. 

2.  Fuller is a wastrel and a professional one at that.  It's probably a bloody sight easier to let a business fail when it isn't YOUR capital used to set it up and there is a handout as a reward for letting it fail.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 29, 2010, 04:49:11 pm
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Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 29, 2010, 06:03:07 pm
Oh Sexy, I don't imagine you are green with a monobrow at all.  More Bert than Oscar would be my guess.


Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 29, 2010, 06:06:37 pm
This is you

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Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 29, 2010, 06:16:42 pm
lol - Mr DT is a LOT bigger than that.

My eyebrows are shaped.

I NEVER wear green cargo pants .....ewwwwww sooooo jungle safari.

My hair is longer.

And I'm pretty sure I'm taller.


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Is closer, but keep trying pmsl - you are entertaining if nothing else.



Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 29, 2010, 06:24:51 pm
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Title: Re: Natasha Fuller Poster Girl For Welfare Economies Failure
Post by: dragontamer on May 29, 2010, 10:11:12 pm
OK.

I'm always up for cookies.

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