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Title: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 07, 2020, 01:57:50 pm

from The Washington Post…

International Criminal Court approves investigation of
possible war crimes in Afghanistan involving U.S. troops


The ruling comes despite strong opposition from the United States,
which does not recognize the court's jurisdiction.


By SUSANNAH GEORGE | 9:57AM EST — Thursday, March 05, 2020

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/42I7SUS66AI6VECVL6QSTAN3X4.jpg&w=888) (https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/42I7SUS66AI6VECVL6QSTAN3X4.jpg&w=1440)
The International Criminal Court in The Hague. — Photograph: Peter Dejong/Associated Press.

KABUL — The International Criminal Court ruled that its chief prosecutor can open a wide-ranging investigation of possible war crimes in Afghanistan by the Taliban, Afghan government forces and U.S. troops.

The ruling comes despite strong opposition from the United States, which does not recognize the court's jurisdiction. Afghanistan has also opposed the investigation but is an ICC member state.

This will be the first investigation opened by the court involving U.S. troops. The ruling comes less than a week after the United States and the Taliban signed a peace deal that calls for the full withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan within 14 months and for the Taliban to disavow terrorist groups.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday called the ICC's move “a truly breathtaking action by an unaccountable political institution masquerading as a legal body. It's all the more reckless for this ruling to come just days after the United States signed a historic peace deal on Afghanistan, which is the best chance for peace in a generation.”

The United States will take all necessary measures “to protect our citizens from this renegade, unlawful so-called court,” he said in a news briefing.

Chief prosecutor Fatou Bensouda requested authorization to investigate possible war crimes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/icc-seeks-investigation-into-war-crimes-in-afghanistan-since-2003/2017/11/03/90c388da-c09e-11e7-9294-705f80164f6e_story.html) in Afghanistan in 2017.

Bensouda said there was reason to believe that members of the U.S. military and intelligence agencies had “committed acts of torture, cruel treatment, outrages upon personal dignity, rape and sexual violence against conflict-related detainees in Afghanistan and other locations, principally in the 2003-2004 period.”

The Trump administration has taken a strong stand against the court's authority (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/04/05/why-does-trump-administration-hate-international-criminal-court-so-much), describing attempted investigations involving U.S. forces as attacks on U.S. sovereignty that would subject Americans to unjust inquiries.

In April, the United States revoked the entry visa of the court's chief prosecutor (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/04/05/why-does-trump-administration-hate-international-criminal-court-so-much), and last year, Pompeo threatened “economic sanctions, if the ICC does not change its course,” referring to the investigation of U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

When the court later decided to abandon the inquiry, President Trump called the decision (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-applauds-international-courts-decision-to-abandon-afghan-war-crimes-probe/2019/04/12/610fd2b6-5d4a-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html) “a major international victory, not only for these patriots, but for the rule of law.” The ICC said it had decided that the lack of cooperation among the concerned parties made the chances of a successful prosecution remote.

But in Thursday's ruling, the court said in a statement (https://www.icc-cpi.int/Pages/item.aspx?name=pr1516) that it “erred” in that decision and that the court should have considered only “whether there was a reasonable factual basis for the Prosecutor to proceed.”

Rights activists applauded the announcement.

“This is an historic moment where the International Criminal Court has reversed a terrible mistake and decided to stand by the victims of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by all sides to the conflict in Afghanistan,” Solomon Sacco, Amnesty International's head of international justice, said in a statement.

Param-Preet Singh, associate international justice director at Human Rights Watch, said the decision “reaffirms the court's essential role for victims when all other doors to justice are closed.”


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Carol Morello in Washington D.C. contributed to this report.

• Susannah George is The Washington Post's Afghanistan and Pakistan bureau chief. She is a prize-winning journalist with deep experience in reporting from the Middle East, including assignments in Egypt, Libya, Bahrain and Tunisia during the Arab Spring and in Iraq on multiple tours. She headed the Associated Press's Baghdad bureau from 2015 to 2018, leading coverage of the prolonged battle to retake Mosul from the Islamic State. George is an Arabic speaker. She began her career as a producer and editor for National Public Radio and immediately before joining The Washington Post covered national security and intelligence from the Associated Press's Washington D.C. bureau. She holds a B.A. in International Affairs from George Washington University.

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Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 08, 2020, 07:37:16 pm
meanwhile here are crimes by china

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gfN2_uOvTM


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 08, 2020, 07:53:48 pm

Typical dumb Trump supporter.

When you find your hero nation being investigated for something evil they have done, divert attention elsewhere.

That's why fuckheads like you have no morals whatsoever.

Not only are you stupid, but you are too dumb to ever see the truth.


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 10, 2020, 05:43:23 pm
so it's ok that the Chinese elite consider their people's lives are worth less than animals

China, the mere risk of insubordination in nominally autonomous areas has been enough to trigger the full force of the state, with minorities conveniently deemed a threat to “national security.”

In the Chinese province of Xinjiang, up to a million Uyghurs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic minorities have been forcibly detained in “de-radicalization” camps.

The International Criminal Court doesn't seem to care about any of this so no problemo


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 11, 2020, 06:06:47 am

Well, Americans have a history of nuking tens of thousands of civilian human beings in the blink of an eye.

And they did it more than once too. Most definitely mass-murder and therefore war crimes.


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 11, 2020, 07:58:49 am
that was war
but nowhere near the 60 million of their own people that were murdered under Chinese leader Mao Zedong

I think 60 million peoples deaths are mass murder right?


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 11, 2020, 12:46:06 pm

The Geneva Convention specifically classifies targeting of civilians as being murder and war crimes, including during wars.

The Americans deliberately targeted civilian cities full of civilians and nuked them, therefore they committed mass murder and war crimes.

America is a signatory to the Geneva Convention, dumbarse!!


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 12, 2020, 04:37:07 pm
the Brits and Americans killed more civilians in Japan and Germany in ww2 with firebombs than with nukes not really a big deal people die in wars
if china killed 60 million of their own people is that not war?


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 12, 2020, 04:57:22 pm

It's still illegal under the Geneva Convention and always has been.

Britain, Germany and America are all guilty of mass-murder of civilians and therefore carrying out war crimes during WWII.

The Americans were the worst at it.

And since WWII, the Americans have sunk to even lower levels, using air power to attack funerals and weddings.

What sort of sicko country uses airpower to target people attending a funeral or a wedding? Americans, that's who.

Good job they are finally being called out for it. I hope the International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Americans who have indulged in war crimes. Then, if they ever leave America, they can be arrested and charged, then jailed.


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on March 13, 2020, 04:10:01 pm
Yes Obama killed a wedding party with a drone strike
and because most of it is top secret probably a lot more

England was the first to firebomb German civilians

 http://www.westernspring.co.uk/who-started-the-bombing-of-civilians-in-world-war-ii/


Title: Re: American war crimes investigation…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on March 21, 2020, 01:51:08 pm

Americans are indulging in biological warmongering against Australia.


from 9News…

Most Australian coronavirus cases coming from USA (https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-most-cases-in-australia-from-usa-scott-morrison/5b04121e-a597-4aaf-a1a7-04be02f9d376)