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Title: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 26, 2019, 10:22:58 pm

from The New York Times…

Trump Agrees to Reopen Government for 3 Weeks
in Surprise Retreat From Wall

The plan will fund the government until February 15 while Republicans and Democrats negotiate over
border security. The plan includes none of the money for the border wall that he had demanded.


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President Donald J. Trump spoke in the Rose Garden at the White House and said he would end the partial government shutdown for three weeks while
negotiations over the border wall continue. He also indicated that he was open to declaring a national emergency or shutting down the government
again if Republicans and Democrats cannot reach an agreement on wall money by the February deadline.
 — Photograph: Sarah Silbiger/The New York Times.

WASHINGTON D.C. — President Trump agreed on Friday to reopen the federal government for three weeks while negotiations continued over how to secure the nation's southwestern border, backing down after a month-long standoff failed to force Democrats to give him billions of dollars for his long-promised wall.

The president's concession paved the way for the House and Senate to both pass a stop-gap spending bill by voice vote. Mr. Trump was expected to sign it on Friday evening to restore normal operations at a series of federal agencies until February 15 and begin paying again the 800,000 federal workers who have been furloughed or forced to work without pay for 35 days (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/08/us/politics/government-shutdown-calendar.html).

The plan includes none of the money for the wall that Mr. Trump had demanded and was essentially the same approach that he rejected at the end of December and that Democrats have advocated since, meaning he won nothing concrete during the impasse. Mr. Trump presented the agreement with congressional leaders as a victory anyway, and indicated in a speech in the Rose Garden that his cease-fire may only be temporary: If Republicans and Democrats cannot reach agreement on wall money by the February deadline, he said that he was ready to renew the confrontation or declare a national emergency to bypass Congress altogether.

“We really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier,” Mr. Trump said. “If we don't get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on February 15, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and Constitution of the United States to address this emergency.”

But Mr. Trump has already adopted some of the language that his Democratic adversaries have used during the longest shutdown in history. He conceded that “we do not need 2,000 miles of concrete wall from sea to shining sea — we never did” and invoked the utility of “smart walls” that substitute some physical barriers for drones and other sensors. The semantic evolution provides both the president and Democrats a face-saving way forward if they want it.

The surprise announcement was a remarkable surrender for a president who made the wall his non-negotiable condition for reopening the government and a centerpiece of his political platform. Some immigration hard-liners that make up a key part of his political base were incensed by the capitulation.

“Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States,” the commentator Ann Coulter, who has aggressively pushed Mr. Trump to keep his campaign promise on the wall, wrote on Twitter (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1088888030901882880).

But Mr. Trump said that he had not given up.

“I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall,” the president wrote on Twitter. “This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it's off to the races!”

On Capitol Hill, though, jittery lawmakers from both parties greeted the news with relief. Mr. Trump relented as the effects of the shutdown were rippling with ever greater force across the economy, with fallout far beyond paychecks. On Friday, air traffic controllers calling in sick slowed air traffic across the Northeast (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/nyregion/airports-shutdown-laguardia-faa.html); hundreds of workers at the Internal Revenue Service also called in sick; and the F.B.I. director said he was as angry as he had ever been over his agents not being paid.

“None of us are willing to go through this again,” said Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, referring to a half dozen Republicans who voted on Thursday for a Democratic measure to reopen the government for two weeks. “And it's not just a few of us. There are a great many in our conference that feel pretty strongly.”

Democrats, who declined to revel in their clear victory, said they would work in good faith to strike a deal on border security. They have raised their offer on border security funding considerably and toughened their rhetoric on stopping illegal immigration.

But Speaker Nancy Pelosi stated plainly that any compromise would not include money for a new border wall, which Democrats view as ineffective and overly costly even though many have supported border fencing in the past.

“Have I not been clear on a wall?” Ms. Pelosi said at a news conference with Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader. The two leaders have repeatedly said they would support allocating additional money for technology and increased patrols along the border, like the ones Mr. Trump referenced on Friday.

The temporary cease-fire should clear the way for Mr. Trump to deliver his State of the Union address to Congress after all, but Ms. Pelosi said it would not be held this Tuesday as originally scheduled. She had rescinded her invitation (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/government-shutdown-democrats-deal-trump.html) earlier this week to come to the House chamber until the government was reopened, and on Friday, the speaker said she would work with Mr. Trump to find a new date.

“The State of the Union is not planned now,” Ms. Pelosi said. “When government is open we will discuss a mutually agreeable date.”

As he announced the deal, Mr. Trump paid tribute to the federal workers who have endured five weeks without pay, expressing sympathy for them in a way he had not until now. “You are fantastic people,” he said.

He promised to ensure that workers will be compensated for the paychecks they have missed since the shutdown began in late December “very quickly or as soon as possible.” To that effect, the Office of Management and Budget circulated a letter to affected agencies and departments Friday afternoon instructing management to prepare for an “orderly reopening” and to prioritize pay and benefits for workers.

But other costs will be more permanent. Many federal contractors do not expect to be repaid for their work during the shutdown. Its compounding effects will ultimately cost the federal government more money than if it was open. And though the long-term economic damage caused by the shutdown remains to be seen, it appears that at the very least the short-term pain was more costly than a down payment on the border wall. According to an analysis from Standard & Poor's, the ratings agency, the United States economy lost at least $6 billion in the five weeks the government was partially shuttered — more than the $5.7 billion that Mr. Trump had requested to build a steel or concrete barrier at the border.

Mr. Trump offered no explanation for his surrender, nor did he acknowledge that it was one. Cabinet officials and White House aides lined the sides of the Rose Garden and applauded him. The president began his remarks as if he had actually emerged victorious, saying that he was “very proud to announce” what he called “a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government.”

Few lawmakers even in Mr. Trump's own party saw it that way.

“I hail from a state that is very supportive of the president and border security with barriers, so that is a consideration for me, but there are a lot of other strategies we could employ that would work better” than a shutdown, said Senator Shelley Moore Capito, Republican of West Virginia.

With polls showing the president enduring most of the blame by the public, Republicans led by Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, pressured Mr. Trump to agree to the temporary cease-fire. Over the next three weeks, a House-Senate conference committee representing both parties will negotiate a border security plan, but if it fails to reach a consensus, government agencies could close again.

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Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, on Friday on Capitol Hill. — Photograph: Erin Schaff/for The New York Times.

The president's concession came a day after two competing measures to reopen the government failed (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/us/politics/senate-vote-fails-shutdown.html) on the Senate floor. A Democratic bill, which would have reopened the government with no strings attached, received more votes than the bill backed by Mr. Trump, which included temporary protections for some undocumented immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion for his proposed border wall.

Mr. McConnell and Mr. Schumer huddled on Thursday night after the failed votes to discuss a path forward. Mr. Schumer rejected the idea of offering a down payment for the wall to reopen the government and pitched Mr. McConnell on what ultimately became the agreement with Mr. Trump, according to a senior Democratic aide. Mr. McConnell, who viewed the shutdown as unnecessary from the start, found Mr. Trump eager to end the impasse, and in a series of calls they ironed out the details. To the Republican leader, it was a way to ease much of the pressure being caused to federal workers and get the Senate back to work.

As late as early Friday morning, Mr. Trump appeared intent on declaring a national emergency at the border alongside the agreement to reopen the government, but Mr. McConnell and White House officials encouraged him to drop the idea, according to people familiar with the discussions who were not authorized to discuss them.

Republican leaders tried to rally their members during a closed policy luncheon before Thursday's votes. But even as Republicans prepared to support Mr. Trump's plan, the signs of mounting frustration after weeks of inaction were evident.

Republican senators rose one by one to voice concerns about the impact on federal workers and Mr. McConnell's decision to limit votes to reopen the government. They swore they would never stand by another government shutdown.

At one point, Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of Wisconsin, vented at Mr. McConnell for putting Republicans in the position of having to vote on two competing approaches to reopen the government — one Republican and one Democratic — without consulting them first.

“You put us in this position,” Mr. Johnson said, according to one of his aides. Another senior Republican aide familiar with the exchange said Mr. Johnson told Mr. McConnell that it was “your fault.”

Mr. McConnell, who had largely been absent from negotiations to reopen the government until late last week, responded, “Are you suggesting I'm enjoying this?”

Mr. McConnell also signaled to Vice President Mike Pence, who attended the lunch, that Senate Republicans were generally not supportive of shutdowns.

“There is no education in the second kick of a mule,” he said, repeating a line he has used frequently, according to two people familiar with the exchange.

Details of the exchange were first reported by The Hill (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/this-is-your-fault-gop-senators-clash-over-shutdown-inside-private-luncheon/2019/01/24/cde0ca22-2045-11e9-8b59-0a28f2191131_story.html).


Emily Cochrane, Catie Edmondson, Maggie Haberman, Thomas Kaplan and Alan Rappeport contributed reporting to this article.

Sheryl Gay Stolberg (https://www.nytimes.com/by/sheryl-gay-stolberg) is a congressional correspondent. In 21 years at The New York Times, she has been a science correspondent, national correspondent, political features reporter and White House correspondent. Previously, at the Los Angeles Times, she shared in two Pulitzer Prizes won by that newspaper's Metro staff. Ms. Stolberg joined The N.Y. Times in 1997 to cover science and health policy, and spent five years writing extensively on bioethics issues, including cloning, the death of a gene therapy patient (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/28/magazine/the-biotech-death-of-jesse-gelsinger.html?pagewanted=all), stem cell research and an experimental artificial heart (http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/08/science/on-medicine-s-frontier-the-last-journey-of-james-quinn.html?pagewanted=all). She switched to government in 2002, first covering Congress and then the White House during the presidencies of George W. Bush and Barack Obama. She has has profiled dozens of prominent figures in Washington, politics and culture — including Supreme Court justices (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/us/politics/27websotomayor.html), a Broadway producer (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/arts/11rocco.html), a C.I.A. agent (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/fashion/26Plame.html) and presidential candidates. She was a lead author of The Times's 2012 Long Run series of biographical profiles of that year's Republican presidential contenders, including Newt Gingrich (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/us/politics/the-long-run-conservatives-remain-suspicious-of-gingrich.html), Jon Huntsman (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/08/us/politics/08huntsman.html), Michele Bachmann (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/politics/17bachmann.html) and Mitt Romney (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/us/politics/for-romney-a-role-of-faith-and-authority.html). In her most recent role as mid-Atlantic bureau chief, she focused on America's cities (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/18/us/sparkling-and-blighted-convention-cities-spotlight-ignored-urban-issues.html), notably Baltimore (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/21/us/a-fragile-baltimore-struggles-to-heal-itself.html), covering issues of race and policing surrounding the death of Freddie Gray (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/22/us/another-mans-death-another-round-of-questions-for-the-police-in-baltimore.html). She returned to Capitol Hill to cover Congress in August 2017. At the Los Angeles Times, Ms. Stolberg shared in two Pulitzer Prizes won by that newspaper's Metro staff, for coverage of the 1992 riots that followed the acquittal of four police officers in the beating of Rodney King, and the devastating 1994 Northridge earthquake. At The New York Times, she shared in a 2009 Gerald Loeb Award for financial journalism, for coverage of President George W. Bush's role (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21admin.html) in the mortgage meltdown, as part of a 2008 series, The Reckoning (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/series/the_reckoning/index.html). She has longstanding interests in women's issues and gay rights, topics on which she has written frequently. She is the proud mother of two daughters, and loves stories that involve politics, art, culture and history.

Nicholas Fandos (https://www.nytimes.com/by/nicholas-fandos) is a reporter at The New York Times' Washington bureau covering Congress.

Peter Baker (https://www.nytimes.com/by/peter-baker) is the chief White House correspondent for The New York Times covering President Donald J. Trump. He previously covered the presidencies of Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Mr. Baker joined The Times in 2008 after 20 years at The Washington Post. He began writing about Mr. Obama at the inception of his administration, through health care and economic debates, the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, the re-election campaign and decisions over war and peace in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. During his first tour at the White House, Mr. Baker was a co-author of the original story breaking the Monica Lewinsky scandal and served as The Post's lead writer on the impeachment battle. During his next White House assignment, he covered the travails of Mr. Bush's second term, from the Iraq war and Hurricane Katrina to Supreme Court nomination fights and the economy. In between stints at the White House, Mr. Baker and his wife, Susan Glasser, spent four years as Moscow bureau chiefs, chronicling the rise of Vladimir V. Putin, the rollback of Russian democracy, the second Chechen war and the terrorist attacks on a theater in Moscow and a school in Beslan. Mr. Baker also covered the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He was the first American newspaper journalist to report from rebel-held northern Afghanistan after September 11, 2001, and he spent the next eight months covering the overthrow of the Taliban and the emergence of a new government. He later spent six months in the Middle East, reporting from inside Saddam Hussein's Iraq and around the region before embedding with the United States Marines as they drove toward Baghdad. He is the author of four books, most recently Obama: The Call of History (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0935112901), an illustrated history of the 44th president. A native of the Washington area, Mr. Baker attended Oberlin College.

• A version of this article appears in The New York Times on Saturday, January 26, 2019, on Page A1 of the New York print edition with the headline: “Shutdown Ends With No Funding for Wall”.


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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 26, 2019, 10:23:18 pm

from The Washington Post…


The insane shutdown comes to an end, with no border wall in sight.

By JENNIFER RUBIN | 3:04PM EST — Friday, January 25, 2019

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President Donald J. Trump leaves the lectern on Friday after announcing that a deal has been reached to reopen the government through to February 15.
 — Photograph: Olivier Douliery/Pool/European Pressphoto Agency/Agencia-EFE/REX.

THINGS CONTINUE until they don't. The senseless, cruel government shutdown ended on Friday. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) had vowed she would not give anything until the government reopened. President Trump had promised he wouldn't reopen the government without funding for his border wall. Now, Pelosi is getting what she wants. Trump has lost. The deal would reopen the government for three weeks to allow a conference committee to discuss border security measures — but not a wall.

Trump said in the Rose Garden that he was “proud” to announce that a deal had been reached, though it was nothing more than a capitulation. The president agreed to reopen the government for three weeks, making a vague (and now, more than ever, empty) threat to declare an emergency if money for the wall was not included in negotiations. He then launched into a harangue of the type that has not in many of his speeches shifted public opinion. "We really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier,” Trump insisted. He rambled on, reciting yet again some story about women smuggled in cars with their mouths taped shuts. (His own advisers and border agents have no idea what he is referring to.) His mini-tirade about the wall reminded anyone who cared that he is not getting it.

You cannot get thumped any worse than Trump did on this encounter with Pelosi. Each step along the way, the president stumbled. He told Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-questions-trumps-manhood-after-confrontational-white-house-meeting/2018/12/11/2b2111be-fd79-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html) (Democrat-New York) “I will be the one to shut it down.” He'd be proud to do it! He wouldn't blame them! He was then ready to sign a clean continuing resolution (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/20/trump-budget-reversal-1071388) — until he listed to Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and provoked a shutdown anyway.

In the iconic video (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-questions-trumps-manhood-after-confrontational-white-house-meeting/2018/12/11/2b2111be-fd79-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html) from December, Schumer can barely contain his laughter. Inside, surely he was jumping up and down, delighting in Trump's political malpractice.

Since then, Team Trump has shown a total lack of compassion for the 800,000 government workers going unpaid. (Perhaps contributing to the president's collapse, 14,000 IRS workers did not show up for work (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/25/least-unpaid-irs-workers-did-not-show-up-work-broad-shutdown-disruption-hits-tax-agency-according-house-aides), and New York's LaGuardia Airport was forced to temporarily suspend flights (https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/01/25/faa-delays-flights-new-yorks-laguardia-airport-citing-staffing-shortages-amid-government-shutdown) because of staffing issues.) Why would they need to go to a food bank? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/24/wilbur-ross-saving-coal-jobs-is-essential-government-workers-are-blip) Can't they suffer a little for all of us? The remarkable Marie Antoinette moments (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/24/wilbur-ross-trump-administration-dont-know-thing-about-financial-lives-americans) won't easily be forgotten.

Trump never was able to sell the public on the existence of an emergency at the border, perhaps because there isn't one. Nor could he convince a majority that the wall was needed, perhaps because it isn't. In trying to come up with a face-saving compromise, Trump (or perhaps Stephen Miller, who seems to be in charge when immigration comes up) slipped in one too many poison pills (e.g., denying a slew of asylum claims). Trump's own staff, in essence, blocked his retreat.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) at the Capitol on Friday. — Photograph: Win McNamee/Getty Images.

As for the disastrous Senate vote on Thursday, it is far from clear whether Trump knew it would fail or whether he was deluded, convinced that Republicans — who had been grumbling and warning him all along that this was a disastrous mistake — would simply go along.

Ultimately, what may have convinced Trump to give up were all those polls he insisted that he was discounting. As Trump throws in the towel, a new Washington Post/ABC poll (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-majority-of-americans-hold-trump-and-republicans-responsible-for-shutdown/2019/01/25/e7a2e7b8-20b0-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html) underscores just how unpopular Trump has become during the Trump shutdown. “Public disapproval of President Trump has swelled five points to 58 percent over three months as a majority of Americans continue to hold him and congressional Republicans most responsible for the partial federal government shutdown.” Pelosi has fared much better. (“53 percent blame Trump and congressional Republicans while 34 percent blame Pelosi”). Meanwhile, independents critical to both mid-term and presidential elections have fled in droves. Among independents, disapproval has soared from 53 percent in November to 63 percent now, while 54 percent say “Trump and Republicans are more responsible for [the shutdown] while 29 percent blame Pelosi and Democrats.”

We will see whether Trump's collapse costs him with his base. If so, the bottom will fall out of his ratings. We are left with two final questions: Will there be serious primary challengers to Trump, who's managed to prove his total incompetence? We'll see. And will Pelosi get tired of winning? I think not.


Jennifer Rubin (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jennifer-rubin) writes reported opinion from a center-right perspective for The Washington Post. She covers a range of domestic and foreign policy issues and provides insight into the conservative movement, the Republican Party and threats to Western democracies. Rubin, who is also an MSNBC contributor, came to The Post after three years with Commentary magazine. Prior to her career in journalism, Rubin practiced labor law for two decades, an experience that informs and enriches her work. She is a mother of two sons and lives in Northern Virginia.


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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 26, 2019, 10:23:52 pm

from The Washington Post…

This is the greatest blunder of Trump's presidency

By KAREN TUMULTY | 5:39PM EST — Friday, January 25, 2019

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Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) answers questions following an announced end to the partial government shutdown on Friday.
 — Photograph: Win Mcnamee/Getty Images.


He lost his gamble on shutting down the government. And though he will pretend otherwise, he has also lost his grandiose plan to build a border wall that most of the country does not want.

Trump walked away with nothing more than an assurance from congressional Democrats that they will sit down with Republicans for three weeks and try to come up with a border security plan that both parties can agree upon. There's a reasonable chance they will come up with a solid proposal. But there's just as much likelihood that Trump’s dream for a wall will die a quiet death there.

Nonetheless, this is the consequence of Trump's obsession with satisfying the red-hatted, nativist throngs who chanted “build the wall” at so many of his rallies.

Not only do 6 in 10 Americans now disapprove of the job that the president is doing, but his party has also lost the 10-point edge it once held over the Democrats on the question of which party to trust on border security, according to a fresh Washington Post-ABC News poll (http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/washington-post-abc-news-poll-jan-21-24/2355/).

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) has shown that she better than Trump understands the art of the deal in Washington. She is the one who succeeded in building a wall — and Trump ran right into it.

Now, as Trump surveys the shambles that his greatest blunder has made of his presidency, the question is whether he and the Republicans learned anything from the five-week calamity that they caused. Will his party be as willing to follow him the next time he leads them toward the edge of a cliff?

If there is even a thin silver lining to the travesty of the longest-ever government shutdown, it is this: The Republicans' slander of public servants has been exposed for what it is.

When the shutdown began, conservative pundits assured themselves that few Americans would notice or care, because only a quarter of the government was not being funded. By its final day, there was turmoil at airports, slow-downs at the Internal Revenue Service and countless individual stories of federal workers who were forced to find sustenance at food pantries and face agonizing choices between whether to pay for heat or medicine this month. In the Washington Post-ABC poll, 1 in 5 people said they had personally been affected by the shutdown.

The stereotype of government employees (https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/08/dont-buy-the-myth-that-government-workers-are-overpaid/61444/) as pampered, overpaid, Washington-bound bureaucrats has been around for many years. Republicans have long portrayed them as the enemies of reform and efficiency.

But Trump targeted them as no one did before. From his earliest months in office, he and his allies have portrayed those who dedicate their lives to serving their country as the corrupt, subversive “deep state” — the bottom-feeders of a swamp in need of draining.

As the shutdown began, Trump first made the absurd suggestion that 800,000 government workers were happy to give up grocery and rent money for a construction project on the U.S.-Mexico border that would stand as a monument to the president's vanity. Then he contradicted himself in a tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078260814157701121) that declared it was largely his political enemies who were feeling the pain: “Do the Dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are Democrats?”

Where a little empathy might have been in order as the shutdown continued, Trump's team revealed a callousness that would have made Marie Antoinette blush.

Trump economic adviser Kevin Hassett said furloughed workers should be celebrating the fact they were getting time off without having to use vacation days. “In some sense, they're better off,” he told PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/evaluating-trumps-economic-policies-2-years-in). Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/business/wilbur-ross-shutdown.html), a billionaire who pads around in custom-made velvet slippers (https://www.themarysue.com/wilbur-ross-awful-man/), expressed bewilderment that federal workers would go to food banks instead of taking out a loan from a bank or credit union. And Lara Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/23/lara-trump-tells-federal-workers-their-missed-paychecks-are-sacrifices-future-our-country), the president's daughter-in-law, dismissed their ordeal as “a little bit of pain, but it's going to be for the future of our country.”

So it was noticeable that when Trump made his Rose Garden announcement on Friday that the government was opening again, he began it by thanking federal workers (https://fcw.com/articles/2019/01/25/shutdown-ends-short-cr.aspx) who had displayed “extraordinary devotion in the face of this recent hardship. You are fantastic people. You are incredible patriots.”

On that point, Trump was absolutely right. Government employees have shown they are all that and more. Which is why they deserve much better than a chief executive who would wager so recklessly with their lives and their livelihoods.


Karen Tumulty (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/karen-tumulty) is a columnist covering national politics for The Washington Post. She joined The Post in 2010 from TIME magazine and has also worked at the Los Angeles Times.

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 27, 2019, 01:26:12 am

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 27, 2019, 01:53:37 pm

I really like the way Nancy Pelosi handled Donald J. Trump.

She treated him like a toddler chucking a huge tantrum and spanked him good & proper.

And in the process she has run circles around Trump and left him floundering.

Donald J. Trump is waaaaaay out of his depth when it comes to dealing with Nancy Pelosi.

She is showing him up as the stupid, dumbarse braggard (all piss & wind) emperor with no clothes he is.

Trump is the silly juvenile in a world of adults in the political world and he has got rid of all of the “adults in the room” in his administration, now he has to deal with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and he is completely and totally fucked. No doubt he will resort to tweeting a load of bullshit to compensate for the fact he LOST BIG-TIME.

And the spanking was delivered by an older woman too … that will really be pissing off Trump who has always had a sexist attitude towards the opposite sex. Good fucking job!!

But even better news … on the same day Nancy delivered a HUGE spanking to Trump, the Feds kicked down the door of Roger Stone before dawn and arrested him for lying to Congress and the F.B.I. about his collusion with Russian agents on behalf of Donald J. Trump. What a hugely entertaining day Friday was in America, eh?

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 27, 2019, 03:01:21 pm

from The Washington Post…

‘Pelosi does not mess around’: Democratic speaker
emerges triumphant from shutdown

“With Nancy, it's hand-to-hand combat with a velvet glove, and he's not used to it,”
former Democratic senator Barbara Boxer said of Trump.

By MIKE DeBONIS | 3:31PM EST — Saturday, January 26, 2019

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, listens to a reporters question after signing a deal to reopen the government on Capitol Hill
in Washington D.C., on Friday. — Photograph: Andrew Harnik/Associated Press.

NANCY PELOSI's first showdown with President Trump began with him publicly questioning her political viability. It ended with the House speaker winning an unmitigated victory and reviving her reputation as a legislative savant.

Trump's capitulation — agreeing to reopen the federal government after a 35-day standoff without funding for a U.S.-Mexico border wall — generated rave reviews for Pelosi from fellow Democrats and grudging respect from Republicans who watched as she kept an unruly party caucus united in the face of GOP divide-and-conquer tactics.

Pelosi (Democrat-California) emerges from the shutdown as a stronger leader of her party — and more popular with the public, by early measures — as Democrats eye aggressive efforts to counter Trump's agenda through ambitious legislation and tough oversight. That suggests the shutdown might have been a strategic mis-step for Trump, in addition to a tactical error.

“He's used to hand-to hand combat,” said former senator Barbara Boxer (Democrat-California), a long-time Pelosi friend and partner in politics. “With Nancy, it's hand-to-hand combat with a velvet glove, and he's not used to it.”

Even before the shutdown began, it became a clash between Trump, 72 — the political outsider, a New Yorker born to privilege and accustomed to getting his way — and Pelosi, 78 — the oft-caricatured San Francisco liberal who was actually steeped in the street politics of her Baltimore youth and years of hardball on Capitol Hill.

When the two met in the Oval Office on December 11, Trump suggested she was constrained by the fact she had not yet been formally elected speaker: “Nancy's in a situation where it's not easy for her to talk right now.”

Pelosi shot back: “Mr. President, please don't characterize the strength that I bring to this meeting.”

In retrospect, the remark was more a warning than a retort. Throughout the past seven weeks, according to interviews with dozens of lawmakers and congressional aides from both parties, Trump and White House officials appeared to fundamentally misjudge Pelosi's support among Democrats and her resolve to hold firm against border wall funding.

As recently as Thursday, Republicans indicated that they thought they might be able to break Democrats apart by painting Pelosi as intransigent and unwilling to negotiate on the wall. “I think it's time for the Democratic Party to have an intervention with the speaker,” Representative Liz Cheney (Republican-Wyoming), the Republican Conference chairwoman, told reporters.

Indeed, not all Democrats share Pelosi's view that the wall is an “immorality,” but she kept fractious Democrats focused on a simple message: There would be no negotiations on the wall as long as the government remained closed.

“We can't set a precedent for holding the federal workers hostage, holding anyone hostage, and using them as a bargaining tool for a policy discussion,” said Representative Jason Crow (Democrat-Colorado), one of many freshmen who beat a suburban Republican by running on a moderate platform. “People have different views on the right way to get [border security] done, and there’s legitimate policy differences there, but let's have that discussion after we get our federal workers back to work.”

Tweeting late on Friday, Trump vowed to keep fighting for his wall, saying the reopening of government “was in no way a concession.”

“It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it's off to the races!” he said.

But there appears to be little appetite on Capitol Hill for a reprise of the draining shutdown. Trump's Plan B — declaring a national emergency and tapping military construction accounts to fund the wall — has unnerved many Republicans and spurred Democrats to prepare for litigation that might not be settled before Trump's term is up.

“I think he's finally met his match,” said Assistant Speaker Ben Ray Luján (Democrat-New Mexico). “The speaker always presents herself in public and in private with the utmost respect. But she's firm, and she's strong, and she understands how to wield that power.”

Throughout the standoff, Pelosi followed her own advice: Don't get in the gutter with Trump — or, as she put it colorfully last month, don't engage in a “tinkle contest with a skunk”. The episode was also influenced by her respect for the presidency, if not for the president himself, aides said.

In a central episode in the shutdown ordeal, Pelosi effectively blocked Trump from delivering the State of the Union address that they had mutually scheduled for January 29. But Pelosi's initial message to Trump did not cancel the invitation outright — instead, she suggested “that we work together to determine another suitable date after government has reopened for this address or for you to consider delivering your State of the Union address in writing.”

Her decision puzzled observers on Capitol Hill and in the White House — including the No.2 Democrat in the House, Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (Maryland), who declared in a television interview moments after the announcement that the speech had been canceled outright, a step Pelosi had carefully avoided.

Several Pelosi allies said the nuance in her letter to Trump was a sign of respect, not weakness.

“There was no way on earth that he was ever going to get in that chamber if the government was shut down,” Boxer said. “But she did it in the right way…. Another guy might have said in a macho battle with Trump, ‘Forget it. It's not happening. We're canceling it.’ I think it took him off his track for a little while. It threw him back.”

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) speaks to reporters on Thursday about the State of the Union speech.
 — Photograph: Leah Millis/Reuters.

Trump did not get the hint. A day later, Trump retaliated by canceling a military flight that was set to ferry Pelosi and other Democratic lawmakers on a trip that would include a visit to U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Then this week, after Trump indicated that he had no interest in rescheduling the speech, Pelosi informed Trump that she had no intention of calling the traditional joint session as long as the government remained closed.

Finally Trump, in late night tweets, acknowledged that the speech would have to wait.

Speaking to a group of opinion journalists on Friday, Pelosi explained the strategy: “You only start with a feather until you get to the sledgehammer.”

Though Trump's legislative director, Shahira Knight, kept Pelosi's chief of staff, Danny Weiss, abreast of developments, Pelosi and Trump had no direct interactions after Trump walked out of a January 9 meeting in the White House Situation Room.

There, Pelosi had insisted that any short-term funding extension would not compel Democrats to agree to wall funding. Pelosi stuck to that position throughout the fight.

“Have I not been clear on the wall?” she said on Friday when asked if her position had changed after the agreement to reopen the government was reached. “No, I have been very clear on the wall. I have been very clear.”

As the confrontation played out, the House moved bill after bill to reopen government agencies. Meanwhile, in the Republican-controlled Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Republican-Kentucky) refused to move on them without Trump's assent — creating an imbalance of action that helped cement a perception that it was Trump and Republicans, not Pelosi and Democrats, who were keeping the government closed.

On Friday, after Trump agreed to sign the bill reopening the government, Democrats showered Pelosi with praise.

In one tweet, Representative Karen Bass (Democrat-California) said Pelosi “should give the State of the Union since she's obviously the one running the country.” Representative Jackie Speier (Democrat-California) referred to the reported physical problem that disqualified Trump from the Vietnam-era draft: “@POTUS has bone spurs. @SpeakerPelosi has a backbone.” And the rapper Cardi B suggested that Pelosi had treated Trump like a pet dog.

One tweet also underscored Pelosi's ability to unify her diverse caucus, from moderates in Trump districts to the party's far left.

“I will tell you something most of the country probably already knows: @SpeakerPelosi does not mess around,” wrote freshman Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democrat-New York), a dominant voice in the party's liberal wing.

Said Pelosi on Friday: “Our unity is our power, and that is what, maybe, the president underestimated.”

A CBS News poll released this week pegged Pelosi's approval number at 39 percent, a figure higher than Trump's and McConnell's — and appreciably higher than seen during last year's mid-term campaign, when Republicans spent tens of millions of dollars on ads attacking Pelosi as a symbol of dysfunctional governance. Fourteen percent of Republicans surveyed said Pelosi had outnegotiated Trump during the shutdown, versus six percent of Democrats who saw Trump outmaneuvering Pelosi.

Among Pelosi's recent fans are some of the Democrats who wanted to oust her as speaker, arguing that the party needed a fresher face at the helm.

Representative Filemon Vela (Democrat-Texas) said he was “more than pleased” that Pelosi had held the line against the wall. He represents a border district centered on Brownsville, where a coast-to-coast wall is widely viewed as folly.

“Those of us who represent these border districts who just think that the wall is just a total waste of money are grateful to Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer for the battle that they waged,” he said.

Representative Tim Ryan (Democrat-Ohio), who ran against Pelosi for House Democratic leader in 2016 and tried to recruit an alternative speaker after the 2018 mid-terms, said, “I don't think anyone's ever denied her ability to negotiate, to be very tough and smart in these scenarios. The irony of the whole thing is, Trump was able to run over all of the Republicans and get them to cower with every demand he had … and he ran into a buzz saw.”

“People are seeing her as responsible in the face of gross irresponsibility and chaos,” Ryan added. “You don't know who else would have been better. But she's definitely up to the task.”


Mike DeBonis (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/mike-debonis) covers Congress, with a focus on the House of Representatives, for The Washington Post. He previously covered D.C. politics and government from 2007 to 2015. DeBonis joined The Post in 2010 after spending six years at Washington City Paper as a reporter and editor, including three years writing a column on District politics. He was educated at Georgetown University, gaining an A.B. degree, majoring in Russian in 2004.


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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on January 31, 2019, 09:09:50 pm


Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on January 31, 2019, 10:13:19 pm

Trump will still be screeching “FAKE NEWS” when the handcuffs get slapped on his wrists the instant the 46th President of the U.S.A. is sworn into office and he will be too dumb & thick & stupid to work out why the world will be laughing at him as he is led away to be LOCKED UP.

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 01, 2019, 08:17:34 pm

wake up ktj you unhinged rabid lunatic commie dreamboat ;D

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 01, 2019, 11:18:13 pm

Nancy SPANKED Donald Trump.

And she will SPANK him again and again and again and again until the next presidential elections.

And if he is still president of the USA following the next presidential election, she'll have another four years to continue spanking Donald J. Trump.

The idiot emperor with no clothes is no match whatsoever for Nancy Pelosi.

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 04, 2019, 06:01:06 pm
Democrat Party Destroys $11 Billion To Keep Trump From Spending $5 Billion To Protect US Border
Not too bright are they?


Nancy and most of the left wing Dems are mentally retarded are turning against each other and bound to destroy their party.

He will build the wall it will be his victory
Trump will win and go down in history as America's greatest hero

Standing in the breach to defend his nation’s Christian peoples and, indeed, the entire Western civilization is President Trump—a once in a lifetime political genius-mastermind who began his journey to take back control of the United States by his exactly following the Commentariolum Petitionis—which is the 64 B.C. political pamphlet written by the great Roman orator Marcus Cicero’s younger brother Quintus Tullius Cicero—that in English is roughly translated into “How To Win An Election”—and whose precepts, written nearly 2,000-years-ago, were used by Trump to deadly effect against all of his opponents like Hillary Clinton include:

Almost every destructive rumour that makes its way to the public begins among family and friends.

Remind the public of what scoundrels your opponents are to smear these men at every opportunity with the crimes, sexual scandals, and corruption they have brought on themselves. 

Actually filing corruption charges isn’t necessary, just let them know you are willing to do so and let fear do its mischief.

Be sure to put on a good show, one filled with colour and spectacle.

You must always think about publicity, it is vital that you use all of your assets to spread the word about your campaign to the widest possible audience using your skills as a public speaker.

Preach a gospel of hope to the voters.

Make your zealous supporters believe that you will always be there to help them and smother them in flattery.

But stick to vague generalities that will assure the common people that you have always been on their side.

If you break a promise, the outcome is uncertain and the number of people affected is small.

But if you refuse to make a promise, the result is certain and produces immediate anger in a larger number of voters.

Fill the house with supporters and pour promises into their heads so they’ll be enthusiastic enough about your message to proselytize on your behalf.

People are moved more by appearances than reality, they would prefer you give them a gracious lie than an outright refusal.

Quintus Tullius Cicero

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 05, 2019, 02:40:01 pm

Nancy SPANKED Donald Trump.

And she will SPANK him again and again and again and again until the next presidential elections.

And if he is still president of the USA following the next presidential election, she'll have another four years to continue spanking Donald J. Trump.

The idiot emperor with no clothes is no match whatsoever for Nancy Pelosi.

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 05, 2019, 06:41:48 pm
ever heard her talk half the time she don't know what day it is
shes retarded

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on February 05, 2019, 07:22:07 pm

Poor liddle-widdle Trumpy-wumpy can chuck all the childish tantrums he wants.

Nancy is stil NOT going to give him any money for his wall.

And if Trump declares a state of emergency and attempts to misappropriate money for the military to build his wall, the Democrats will immediately tie Trump up in legal action and restraining orders for so long that, even if he wins a second term as president, that legal action will still be ongoing and the restraining orders will still be in effect when the 46th president is sworn into office and the handcuffs get slapped onto Trump's wrists as he is led away and charged with multiple criminal activities, including theft, fraud, corruption, lying to federal agents, attempting to pervert the course of justice, interferring in federal investigations, and many other charges.

Nancy is going to keep on spanking Donald J. Trump for as long as he resides at 1600 Pennsylania Avenue and there is nothing Trump can do about it.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA … shove that up your clacker!!

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 11, 2019, 05:54:17 pm
the walls are closing in on the dopey dem dogs

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on February 11, 2019, 06:32:38 pm

hahahaha (http://www.smfboards.com/Smileys//smf/2funny.gif)


Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 01, 2019, 02:18:49 am

ROFLMAO … Nancy Pelosi is about to deliver another huge spanking to President Donald J. Trump while Chuck Schumer smirks.

from the print edition of the Los Angeles Times…

Buckle your seat belts for ‘Chuck and Nancy’ sequel

Little is expected from Trump's talk with the two Democrats, other than entertainment.

By ELI STOKOLS | Tuesday, April 30, 2019

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Democrats Charles Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are to discuss infrastructure with President Donald J. Trump. — Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images.

WASHINGTON D.C. — On paper, President Trump’s schedule on Tuesday looks like something drawn up by the producers of a White House reality show with a plot line that combines the president's long-running “Chuck and Nancy” melodrama with his struggle to make any progress on rebuilding America's infrastructure.

Trump will put no infrastructure package on the table when Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer of New York and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California return to the Oval Office. But neither will they, despite Democratic promises to work with Trump when possible.

In a capital now accustomed to governance by tweet and a president who spends much of his day watching Fox News, impromptu theater often is the point.

Four months ago, when “Chuck and Nancy,” as Trump calls them, were invited to the White House, political fireworks went off as the president and his guests clashed on live TV, a confrontation that soon saw the president close parts of the federal government for 35 days in an unsuccessful effort to get money for his border wall.

“When you put people with competing agendas and massive egos in a room and roll the cameras, it's bound to be nothing if not entertaining,” said Matt Gorman, a Republican strategist in Washington D.C. “We've already seen it with these three.”

Since the shutdown, Democrats have taken over House committees and started a raft of investigations into Trump's personal finances, his business practices, security clearances at the White House and much more, fueled in part by the release of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's report into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Whether Trump will hide his fury about the investigations, about Democrats' impeachment chatter and about his frustration at his failure to get money for the border wall and other priorities, is an open question. So is how to pay for an infrastructure package without raising gas taxes or other taxes.

“I don't believe there's a snowball's chance in hell they'll be able to work anything out on an infrastructure bill,” said Jim Manley, a long-time aide to former Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

“The differences are too stark and the political environment is too toxic,” he added. “The problem here is normally these things are highly scripted affairs where everyone has at least an idea of where people are coming from. But now no one knows how Trump is going to behave.”

Thus in a week when a new Avengers movie is shattering box-office records, the latest episode of the Trump-meets-Chuck-and-Nancy show could be a Washington D.C. blockbuster.

On December 11, Trump and the two Democrats turned what was supposed to be a ho-hum Oval Office photo op into a combative negotiation that was captured in full by the television crews in the room. At one point, Trump said he would be “proud” to force a government shutdown if Democrats didn't meet his demands for border wall funding.

Trump, aware his adversaries had gotten the better of the exchange, threw a binder of briefing materials as he walked out of the Oval Office. In the White House driveway, Pelosi strutted confidently toward a group of reporters and cameras with an insouciant air that made her an instant meme and her orange funnel-necked overcoat a sudden top-seller.

“In all my years in Washington, I've never seen a meeting go off the rails like that,” Manley said.

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At the December meeting, President Trump said he would be “proud” to force a government shutdown if Democrats didn't meet his border funding demands.
 — Photograph: Mark Wilson/Getty Images.

On January 9, Trump attempted to turn the tables by walking out of another White House meeting — this time, no press was allowed in — with the two Democrats. The government shutdown, by then underway, ultimately ended without Trump securing any additional border wall funding.

This time, Trump is in a high-stakes political dogfight over Democratic attempts to subpoena his tax returns and to compel Cabinet officials and former administration aides to testify under oath before Congress.

Adding to the tension, Pelosi, who had emphasized her belief that Democrats shouldn't pursue impeachment, stated last week that the party may “have no choice” if the facts push them in that direction.

Trump's own vitriol toward Democrats has ratcheted up in recent days. At a rally on Saturday night in Green Bay, Wisconsin, he accused doctors who support abortion rights and mothers of “executing” babies, and he called the Mueller inquiry an attempted “coup” by frustrated Democrats determined to push him out of office.

Not known for turning the other cheek, Trump could explode at Democrats — but he could also deliver a plot twist of sorts by appearing open to true bipartisan collaboration.

Trump vowed during his 2016 campaign to focus on rebuilding America's crumbling roads, bridges and other infrastructure, and the White House has repeatedly promised an “infrastructure week” in the past to highlight the issue. Each produced a news release or two but little of substance.

A comprehensive infrastructure package could offer a chance to burnish his self-image as a skilled dealmaker. He could also use the meeting to put pressure on Pelosi to deliver him the votes to ratify his revamped free-trade agreement for North America, the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, which appears to have stalled.

Similarly, for Pelosi and Schumer, finding a policy area where both parties' interests might align could demonstrate a seriousness about governing beyond investigating the president, who has continued to portray Democrats as a mob of obstructionist resisters.

In a letter on Monday, Democrats rolled out a set of three broad principles they said would be crucial in finding common ground on infrastructure, signaling that they want the bulk of the funding for new road and bridge projects to come from the federal government and to include “clean-energy priorities” and “buy American” provisions.

“There would have to be some significant, not very small compromises on both sides, but infrastructure is not this intractable issue like immigration,” said one former White House advisor, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Trump “agrees with Democrats that you’ve got to spend to do the larger projects. There’s liable to be more of an impasse on some of the union and environmental requirements.”

At the White House, even an aide involved in preparing the president for Tuesday's meeting said on Monday that it was not possible to predict what he would say or do in the moment.

As in December, Trump could try again to push Pelosi and Schumer with leverage he doesn't have.

After stating bluntly last week that his administration is “fighting all the subpoenas,” he could inform Pelosi on Tuesday that he won't be willing to collaborate on legislative priorities until House Democrats stop investigating him.

Unlike the December showdown in the Oval Office, Trump will host Tuesday's meeting in the Cabinet Room with more than Pelosi and Schumer. A dozen Democratic lawmakers, six from the House and six from the Senate, are planning to attend, and Trump is likely to have Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, economic advisor Larry Kudlow and Trump's daughter Ivanka in the room.

The White House has not yet indicated whether TV cameras will be allowed in.

“I think they learned their lesson from last time,” said one Pelosi aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity about the game plan. “It's time to see if Trump is serious about this. This is really his last chance to get a big infrastructure package done.”


• Eli Stokols is a White House reporter based in the Los Angeles Times Washington, D.C., bureau. He is a veteran of Politico and The Wall Street Journal, where he covered the 2016 presidential campaign and then the Trump White House. A native of Irvine, Stokols grew up in a L.A. Times household and is thrilled to report for what is still his family's hometown paper. He is also a graduate of UC Berkeley and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 02, 2019, 04:46:09 am

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 05, 2019, 03:29:43 pm

trump gets an elephant to fuck nancy right up her arsehole
and she's loving it ;D

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 05, 2019, 04:52:00 pm

The FACTS are simple.

Because Democrats control Congress, Trump cannot get any legislation passed without sucking up to the Democrats.

Ain't that a hoot, eh?  (http://www.smfboards.com/Smileys//smf/grin.gif)  (http://www.smfboards.com/Smileys//smf/2funny.gif)

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 06, 2019, 07:29:59 am

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 07, 2019, 10:45:15 pm

Nancy is going to whip Trump's arse...

What Nancy Pelosi gets right (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/06/pelosis-right-about-couple-things)

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 09, 2019, 12:22:12 am

Nancy is an alt-left white trash supremacist

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 09, 2019, 02:48:09 pm

Oooooooh, I like it when you talk dirty.

It is soooooooooo entertaining.

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 10, 2019, 08:43:35 pm

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 23, 2019, 01:22:00 pm

from The Washington Post…

Pelosi goads Trump into another temper tantrum

Five reasons Pelosi scored.

By JENNIFER RUBIN | 3:33PM EDT — Wednesday, May 22, 2019

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President Donald J. Trump on May 22 held a news conference about the Mueller investigation in the White House Rose Garden.
 — Photograph: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post.

HOUSE SPEAKER Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) has done it before. Earlier this year, she called President Trump's bluff, held tough and forced him to reopen the government after he shut it down over the wall. She has a knack for making Trump look especially peevish. So it was on Wednesday (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-takes-aim-at-house-democrats-as-they-prepare-to-discuss-impeachment-calls/2019/05/22/a36ea0d0-7c79-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html):

President Trump abruptly ended a meeting with Democratic leaders on Wednesday, saying he was unable to work with them on legislation following comments by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) that he was “engaged in a coverup.”

Trump made an unscheduled appearance in the Rose Garden shortly afterward and in a meandering 10-minute address said he had left the meeting with Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (Democrat-New York) at which they were supposed to talk about working together on a $2 trillion infrastructure plan.

Trump was apparently aggrieved that Pelosi accused him of conducting a coverup. The man who paid off Stormy Daniels to keep his extramarital affair quiet during the campaign insisted that “I don't do coverups” (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/22/i-dont-do-cover-ups-president-trump-says.html).

Trump's fit amounts to saying “I will NOT do my job so long as Congress is doing its job!” That's what this amounts to, a confession of sorts that his legal stonewall strategy (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/21/trump-appeals-decision-upholding-subpoena-for-financial-records.html) may not be sufficient and that his personal vulnerability is so great that he is unable to do his job. That would seem, well, grounds for impeachment. But while impeachment is unpopular, a president refusing to do things he promised to help voters because he is under investigation is even more unpopular.

In her comments to the media after Trump stalked out, Pelosi observed that (https://www.apnews.com/34f3711675e14bb6aed2e7349c4acacf) maybe it was “lack of confidence on his part” that caused him to short-circuit infrastructure talks. “He just took a pass and it just makes me wonder why he did that,” she said (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-pelosi-democrats-impeachment/h_c2f769157d6ca11cffc11391ae5e48cf). “In any event, I pray for the president of the United States. And I pray for the United States of America.” She certainly knows how to rub it in.

However, she was not done. Appearing shortly afterward at the Center for American Progress Ideas Conference, she recounted (https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/nancy-pelosi-ridicules-trumps-orchestrated-and-poor-baby-meeting-very-very-very-strange), “In an orchestrated, almost to an ‘oh, poor baby’ point of view…. [Trump] came into the room and said that I said that he was engaged in a coverup.” She continued, “It's really sad.” As she put it, it was all “very, very, very strange.” For good measure, she added (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/445074-pelosi-trump-cover-up-could-be-impeachable-offense), "This president is obstructing justice and he's engaged in a coverup. And that could be an impeachable offense.”

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-California) said on May 22 that House Democrats believe “no one is above the law,
including the president of the United States.” — Photograph: Rhonda Colvin/The Washington Post.

Whether Pelosi intended this result or not, her ability to treat Trump as a spoiled child and provoke even more self-destructive behavior has several positive benefits for Democrats in this context. First, it puts the blame for not accomplishing anything on infrastructure — or anything else — squarely on Trump's shoulders. Second, he makes it nearly impossible for incumbent Republicans to run in 2020 on any record of accomplishment. The GOP will rightfully be called the do-nothing party. (Well, in fairness they do plenty — excusing Trump, enabling Trump, ignoring Trump's wrong-doing, etc.) Third, it's a preposterous position — what else will he refuse to do? — for someone who will be running for re-election in 2020. Fourth, more than anything, he has shown how panicked he is about investigations, thereby giving Pelosi the ability to talk to frustrated members of her caucus who want to start on impeachment the perfect comeback: We've got him on the run. Fifth, if they ever do get around to impeachment, Democrats can add another count against him: Refuses to do his job while lawful investigations are going on.

All in all, Pelosi once again demonstrated that the best person to deal with a weak narcissist prone to temper tantrums is a mother and grandmother.


Jennifer Rubin (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jennifer-rubin) writes reported opinion from a center-right perspective for The Washington Post. She covers a range of domestic and foreign policy issues and provides insight into the conservative movement, the Republican Party and threats to Western democracies. Rubin, who is also an MSNBC contributor, came to The Post after three years with Commentary magazine. Prior to her career in journalism, Rubin practiced labor law for two decades, an experience that informs and enriches her work. She is a mother of two sons and lives in Northern Virginia.


Related to this topic:

 • REUTERS VIDEO: Pelosi: Trump is engaged in a ‘cover up’ (https://mobile.reuters.com/video/2019/05/22/pelosi-trump-is-engaged-in-a-cover-up?videoId=553296803)

 • VIDEO: ‘I don't do cover ups’: Trump responds to Pelosi accusation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/i-dont-do-cover-ups-trump-responds-to-pelosi-accusation/2019/05/22/12ab72c6-f398-49a7-8c24-bbe9e455a438_video.html)

 • Trump abruptly ends meeting with Democratic leaders (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-takes-aim-at-house-democrats-as-they-prepare-to-discuss-impeachment-calls/2019/05/22/a36ea0d0-7c79-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html)

 • Trump's gripe-filled news conference, annotated (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/22/trumps-gripe-filled-press-conference-annotated)

 • Judge rejects Trump's request to halt congressional subpoenas for his banking records (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/judge-rejects-trumps-request-to-halt-congressional-subpoenas-for-his-banking-records/2019/05/22/28f9b93a-7ccd-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html)

 • N.Y. passes bill giving Congress access to Trump's state tax data (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/22/new-york-legislature-approves-bill-giving-congress-access-trumps-state-tax-records)

 • Jennifer Rubin: Nancy Pelosi is in charge (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/16/pelosi-is-charge)

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 24, 2019, 01:46:09 am

from the print edition of the Los Angeles Times…

Pelosi, Schumer rejected at White House

Trump, angry at House investigations, bolts meeting with Democratic leaders on infrastructure.

By ELI STOKOLS and JENNIFER HABERKORN | Thursday, May 23, 2019

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President Donald J. Trump appears with a pre-made sign at a hastily called news conference after he stormed out of the White House meeting,
saying bipartisan cooperation was impossible “under these circumstances.” — Photograph: Andrew Harnik/Associated Press.

WASHINGTON D.C. — President Trump abruptly blew up an infrastructure meeting with Democratic leaders at the White House on Wednesday and declared that bipartisan cooperation was impossible while House committees are investigating him, underscoring the increasing combustibility between two warring branches of government.

Trump refused to even sit down when he walked into the scheduled Cabinet Room meeting with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Democrat-San Francisco) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (Democrat-New York). He then headed to a hastily called news conference in the Rose Garden.

Trump told reporters there that he gave the surprised Democratic leaders an ultimatum, warning that they needed to choose between pursuing infrastructure or their investigations of his finances, businesses and administration.

“You probably can't go down two tracks,” he said. “You can go down the investigation track, or you can go down the investment track.

“I walked into the room and I told Senator Schumer and Speaker Pelosi, ‘I want to do infrastructure. I want to do it more than you want to do it’,” Trump said.

“But you know what? You can’t do it under these circumstances. So get these phony investigations over with.”

The acrimony erupted as the president was dealt another setback in court. For the second time in two days, a federal judge rejected Trump's refusal to honor congressional subpoenas and ordered him to turn over financial records to Democratic-led committees.

On Wednesday, a federal judge in New York rejected Trump's efforts to block a subpoena aimed at forcing Deutsche Bank and Capital One to hand over his financial records to the House Financial Services and Intelligence committees. Trump's attorneys are expected to appeal the decision.

On Tuesday, a federal judge in Washington D.C. ruled that Trump cannot block a subpoena from the House Oversight Committee for financial information from his accounting firm, Mazars USA. Trump's lawyers already have appealed.

And lawmakers in New York passed legislation on Wednesday that will allow the state's Department of Taxation and Finance to release the state tax returns of public officeholders at the federal, state and local levels that are requested by the leaders of congressional tax-writing committees. Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, is expected to sign the bill into law.

It wasn't clear if Trump's threat not to cooperate with Democrats was mere bluster or signaled the death knell to any infrastructure plan or other compromises on key legislative issues before the 2020 election.

In January, Trump stormed out of a meeting with Pelosi and Schumer during a partial government shutdown over funding for his border wall. The 35-day shutdown ended when the president backed down.

Trump laid down a similar threat of non-cooperation during his State of the Union address in February, saying: “If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation. It just doesn't work that way.”

Trump made clear on Wednesday he was irked by Pelosi's charges, made at an earlier news conference, that the president's stonewalling of up to 20 House investigations amounts to a “cover-up,” comments that added fuel to some Democrats' demands for impeachment proceedings.

“I don't do cover-ups,” Trump said, blaming Democrats for what he called unfair harassment. “These people are out to get us.”

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, with Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer, said that President Trump “couldn't match the greatness of the challenge
that we have” on infrastructure. “He just took a pass.” — Photograph: Erik S. Lesser/European Pressphoto Agency/Agencia-EFE/Shutterstock.

After returning to the Capitol, Democrats called their own news conference to say they were stunned that Trump had stormed out of the meeting before anyone else could speak.

“To watch what happened in the White House would make your jaw drop,” Schumer said. “We are interested in doing infrastructure. It's clear the president isn't. He is looking for every excuse.”

Schumer said the pre-made sign affixed to the president's lectern in the Rose Garden — “No Collusion, No Obstruction,” it read — showed that Trump's walkout was long planned. He suggested the president had staged the incident because the White House had failed to find a way to fund an infrastructure bill.

Schumer said he'd brought a 35-page infrastructure proposal to the White House, attempting to contrast Democrats' good-faith approach to talks with the president's reluctance.

“Now that he was forced to come up with a way to pay for it, he ran away,” he said.

Pelosi, who said Democrats don't believe the House investigations jeopardized the infrastructure talks, opted not to speculate as to what motivated Trump's behavior.

The president, she said, “couldn't match the greatness of the challenge that we have. … He just took a pass, and it makes me wonder why he did that,” she said. “In any event, I pray for the president of the United States.”

On Tuesday night, Trump sent Pelosi and Schumer a letter informing them that he wants Congress to ratify the revamped free trade agreement with Canada and Mexico before they take up infrastructure. In that letter, he asked Democrats to clarify their priorities with specific funding requests.

More House Democrats called this week for impeachment proceedings as the White House continued to defy subpoenas, refusing to hand over documents or allow current or former administration officials to testify in the aftermath of the special counsel report from Robert S. Mueller III, who laid out 10 examples of Trump attempting to interfere with the investigation.

“We've all been struggling with this on a personal basis about what's the right thing to do given our obligation based on the oath we swore to the Constitution,” said Representative Katie Hill (Democrat-Agua Dulce), who said calls to her office about impeachment have risen dramatically, with 3 to 1 in support.

House Democrats have vowed to operate on two tracks: conducting appropriate oversight of the executive branch while they try to work with Trump on legislation. That focus is important for moderate Democrats who won in swing districts and want to cite legislative accomplishments in their 2020 campaigns.

But Trump sought to knock that compartmentalized approach off the table on Wednesday, insisting that Democrats must choose one path or the other. Democrats, buoyed by the latest court decisions, made clear they don't agree.

Shortly before Wednesday's White House meeting, Pelosi huddled with House Democrats, where she asked for patience from those who favor impeachment, given the president's refusal to cooperate with investigations.

“That was really the message: Be a little bit patient,” said Representative Gerald E. Connolly (Democrat-Virginia), a member of the House Oversight Committee. “Things are kind of breaking our way, and more is about to happen. Let's not rush to something that we can't take back.”

Pelosi sought to placate the pro-impeachment members by emphasizing that the White House is engaging in a “cover-up” when she spoke to reporters afterward.

“We do believe it’s important to follow the facts. We believe that no one is above the law, including the president of the United States, and we believe that the president of the United States is engaged in a cover-up — in a cover-up,” she said.

Repairing the country's crumbling bridges, airports, roads and other infrastructure was one of the few issues where Democrats and Republicans appeared to have common interests.

Last month, Trump welcomed Pelosi and Schumer to the White House and vowed to pursue a $2-trillion plan, although he didn't say how he would pay for it. The Democratic leaders emerged from that meeting pleasantly surprised by Trump’s eagerness to pass a massive infrastructure bill, and both sides agreed to meet again in three weeks.

The onus, Democrats said then, was on the administration to come up with a funding plan. But Trump quickly faced blowback from congressional Republicans, who opposed raising the gas tax, the traditional funding source for such improvements.

The White House, according to two sources involved in ongoing discussions, has no plan to generate revenue for infrastructure aside from deep budget cuts to existing non-military programs, something Democrats are sure to oppose.

“It was night and day between this time and last time,” Representative Peter A. DeFazio (Democrat-Oregon), chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

Pelosi said in a letter to Democratic colleagues that the House would still try to pass a “big, bold and bipartisan” package, but DeFazio made clear that was unlikely without Trump. “We need him, otherwise there's no prospects for a larger, comprehensive bill with robust funding,” he said.

DeFazio said that acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Republican-Kentucky) were both “100% dead set against doing infrastructure,” he said. “Trump has promised it and they don't care.”


• Eli Stokols is a White House reporter based in the Los Angeles Times Washington, D.C., bureau. He is a veteran of Politico and The Wall Street Journal, where he covered the 2016 presidential campaign and then the Trump White House. A native of Irvine, Stokols grew up in a L.A. Times household and is thrilled to report for what is still his family's hometown paper. He is also a graduate of UC Berkeley and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

• Jennifer Haberkorn covers Congress in Washington, D.C., for the Los Angeles Times. She has reported from Washington since 2005, spending much of that time roaming the halls of the U.S. Capitol. Before arriving at the L.A. Times, Haberkorn spent eight years at POLITICO writing about the 2010 healthcare law, a story that took her to Congress, the states, healthcare clinics and courtrooms around the country. She also covered Congress and local business news for The Washington Times. Haberkorn is a native of the Chicago area and graduated from Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Im2Sexy4MyPants on May 29, 2019, 03:25:42 pm
Pelosi, Schumer spent the last 30 years bludging off the American taxpayers and making themselves rich

Title: Re: Nancy Pelosi delivers a huge spanking to Donald Trump…
Post by: Kiwithrottlejockey on May 29, 2019, 06:58:35 pm

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Or are you somebody who doesn't support America's clown emperor with no clothes and are therefore NOT STUPID?  (http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/XtraNewsCommunity2/Animated%20emoticons/03_Huh.gif)